Re: KMR labels
Jenn what is your direct email ? I have a friend that uses a lot of KMR and will probably give you the labels. Terri ~~~ I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life. Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula! PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address you can send them to, to help feed Bazil! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 7/14/2005 -- Terri Durham-Stone Safe a Life "Spay and Neuter" Live well, Love much, Laugh Often
Re: Spanky - CLS - PU
I thought that's what it was but didn't know the terminology. "Spankette"! Naughty, Naughty!! I have a cat that was neutered so young I swear he's gay. He's very submissive and kind of 'comes on' to the other males. t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perineal Urethrostomy. When the male kitty has a blockage and can't urinate its surgery to give them another opening.Spanky blocked several times (flutd) and almost died. After two surgeries he never had a problem a gain. I think they remove their penis. The first time scar tissue caused him to close up and he had to have a second surgery to make the opening bigger. We loved to call him Spankette our little girl. jpg6oymLWBPk0.jpg Description: JPEG image
Re: ot- flooring for pee club members- Tonya
I'm pretty handy around the house love do it yourself project. I've been reading up on laying tile and it doesn't seem all that hard. I think I'll give it a try. It might take my mind off Spanky.Staying busy all ways helps me. I'll let you know how it turns out. Sheila
Re: Spanky - CLS - PU
Perineal Urethrostomy. When the male kitty has a blockage and can't urinate its surgery to give them another opening.Spanky blocked several times (flutd) and almost died. After two surgeries he never had a problem a gain. I think they remove their penis. The first time scar tissue caused him to close up and he had to have a second surgery to make the opening bigger. We loved to call him Spankette our little girl.
Roxy - pretty but scared calico FeLV positive in SC needs home URGENT
Is there anyone reasonably near Columbia, SC (Georgia, TN, NC, maybe FL) who would be willing to take a medium-haired scared (semi-feral)calico FeLV positive kitty? The cat was taken in from a large colony by a small feral cat rescue group here and fostered out, but the foster parent, who works long hours and has several other cats plus some recently rescued small kittens, feels Roxy is "not happy here" with her. Roxy may be intimidated by the two other FeLV positives in the home (both tame), and the foster parent doesn't have any prior experience with ferals or semi-ferals. She feels Roxy has lost a little weight in the past 3 months, but doesn't know or have any way to tell whether this is a symptom of her leukemia (i.e. whether anything's going on healthwise) or just that she is too scared to eat well. Maybe she is even being run off from the food dish and litterbox. The foster parent swears they all get along, but Roxy has taken refuge in the chimney twice. She would come down when the foster parent wasn't around, but go back up there if anyone entered the room. When briefly caged initially, Roxy could be petted through the bars, so we feel she is probably not totally feral. Unfortunately, adding to the problem is the fact that she apparently isn't using her litterbox, again perhaps because she is scared/intimidated. The foster parent feels she cannot cope any longer with all this, and the day before yesterday, having left Roxy up the chimney since Sunday, said she felt it might be better to put Roxy to sleep. The colony the group in question deals with is a large one on farmland owned by an old-established but eccentric family. The daughter who runs the farm nowadays is actually a veterinarian, but about as batty as the rest of the family. She apparently did trap or catch and fix some of the cats in the past, and feeds some of them intermittently, but won't allow the group officially onto her property to fix more or treat ill cats. There has been a lot of leukemia among these cats, probably because more are dumped from time to time and the owner won't allow a mass roundup and spay/neuter to get a handle on things (she also doesn't take very good care of horses and goats on the property and was once cited by DHEC). The person who runs the rescue group is overwhelmed, and just lost another FeLV positive kitty from this site that she'd had about 3 years and was very fond of. She is reluctant to take back Roxy because she was relieved to not have any more positive cats after losing this other one recently. I think she should take Roxy, but she is being really reluctant - I think in part because her husband is pushing her not to. On the other hand, she keeps criticizing what the foster parent is doing. This girl basically took Roxy on permanently, but when things get bad she seems to go off the deep end. Right now, since Roxy came down out of the chimney, she's OK with everything again, but its probably only a matter of time before something goes wrong again and she feels Roxy is "very unhappy and it would be better to put her to sleep . . . " The group's founder called me about all this because we were friends for a long time and she's always calling me for advice, even though I don't think she does things quite as I would a lot of the time. Also, the foster parent is someone who adopted a cat from me/my organization ten years ago, so she feels I have some connection to her and that maybe she'd listen to me. I told everyone concerned I post info about Roxy to the list, and ask Gloria or Yvonne or whoever has time to cross-post to as many other relevant lists as possible. I don't think it would be practical to send a scared positive kitty too far transportation-wise, and it is too hot to send her via air (there's usually an embargo in summer months). Is there anyone out there that would be willing to give Roxy a chance in her own little room, possibly by herself? I am trying to get them to forward a picture to me which I will send to Belinda when I get it. -- ___ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com
Re: Toxoplasmosis
Toxoplasmosis is only shed for 2 weeks from the initial contamination, I recently read from the ASPCA newsletter. Not sure if it goes away after 2 weeks, or just becomes dormant though, but it was interesting to hear. I believe the symptoms are diarrhea, if anything. Most cats don't show any symptoms. Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address you can send them to, to help feed Bazil! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 7/14/2005
Re: Spanky - CLS
Sheila, I'm so sorry -- it never gets easier. Big hugs to you. Goodnight, sweet Spanky... =^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, and 5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^= Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 9:32 PM Subject: Spanky - CLS Belinda, Please add my boy Spanky to CLS he was felv + and had a pu surgery two years ago. He was fine this morning eating going to litter box. This was so unexpected I am in complete shock. He showed no sign of sickness. He was gray and white rag doll 12 years old. He gave me kisses and headbutts everyday even when he was not feeling well. He was so gentle and loving and I can't imagine waking up tomorrow and not seeing his beautiful face. You would think after losing so many precious ones that it would get easier, but this has really broken my heart.Sheila
Toxoplasmosis
Sebastian may have toxoplasmosis. We are still running tests, so we are not sure. Does anyone have a FELV+ cat with this? What are the symptoms and treatments?
Re: ot- flooring for pee club members
isn't it positively AMAZING what we'll put up? On 7/15/05, Del Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We bought a new portable tv for our bedroom guess what we are covering it > with when not watching it ... waterproof mattress covers, yes, they are > great. The previous tv is well baptised! > > Del > > - Original Message - > From: catatonya > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 12:54 PM > Subject: Re: ot- flooring for pee club members > > > Ha! > > I know the people at Walmart wonder why I buy so many waterproof mattress > covers. lol. > > I am making a room in my basement for the cats and I was thinking of just > painting the floors and walls both with the water proof basement sealer > stuff and then the waterproof floor paint. > > Shower panelling might be a thought. > > t > > Del Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jenn, > > I don't have a drain but this sounds do-able. It will be a MAJOR project. > The room has cheap wood paneling on the lower half now which has absorbed > the pee and I plan to replace that with the shower paneling which can be > wiped off. Last time at the grocery when I picked up three gallon jugs of > vinegar, other people may have thought I was preparing for pickles ... > between the cats and MIL's laundry, lots of pee here! > > Del > > - Original Message - > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 9:14 AM > Subject: Re: ot- flooring for pee club members > > > Rough concrete is hard to clean, even when sealed. Use a heavy-duty concrete > floor PAINT. Roll it on thick, and do a few coats, enough to smooth out the > surface. MUCH easier to clean that way. That's how most industrial plant > floors are in the production rooms. You just hose it down, and squeegee the > water down the drain. If you don't have a drain, it's still easy to clean > with some spray cleaner and paper towels. I NEVER use a mop, mops just > spread the gook around and press it into the corners. > > Jenn > http://ucat.us > http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html > > ~~~ > What experience does anyone have with cement? Good and bad. I > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 7/14/2005 > > > -- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: ot- flooring for pee club members
We bought a new portable tv for our bedroom guess what we are covering it with when not watching it ... waterproof mattress covers, yes, they are great. The previous tv is well baptised! Del - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 12:54 PM Subject: Re: ot- flooring for pee club members Ha! I know the people at Walmart wonder why I buy so many waterproof mattress covers. lol. I am making a room in my basement for the cats and I was thinking of just painting the floors and walls both with the water proof basement sealer stuff and then the waterproof floor paint. Shower panelling might be a thought. tDel Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jenn, I don't have a drain but this sounds do-able. It will be a MAJOR project. The room has cheap wood paneling on the lower half now which has absorbed the pee and I plan to replace that with the shower paneling which can be wiped off. Last time at the grocery when I picked up three gallon jugs of vinegar, other people may have thought I was preparing for pickles ... between the cats and MIL's laundry, lots of pee here! Del - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 9:14 AM Subject: Re: ot- flooring for pee club members Rough concrete is hard to clean, even when sealed. Use a heavy-duty concrete floor PAINT. Roll it on thick, and do a few coats, enough to smooth out the surface. MUCH easier to clean that way. That's how most industrial plant floors are in the production rooms. You just hose it down, and squeegee the water down the drain. If you don't have a drain, it's still easy to clean with some spray cleaner and paper towels. I NEVER use a mop, mops just spread the gook around and press it into the corners. Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~What experience does anyone have with cement? Good and bad. I No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 7/14/2005
Human interferon - Where can I purchase it?
Hi, I know that some of you use human interferon (orally administered) for your FELV+ cats. Although Deirdre, my FELV+ cat, is healthy, I do want to start her on interferon. I called Island Rx and they have it, but a 90 day supply costing some $23 also costs $28 more simply to ship it. That's because it must be shipped overnight in a cold pack. Do any of you get it from a local pharmacy. My vet gave me a prescription, but my local pharmacies don't seem to have it. Thanks, kathy and Deirdre
Re: ot- flooring for pee club members
we also used the shower paneling on all the interior walls of the two buildings--the dept of agriculture liked that a LOT On 7/15/05, catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ha! > > I know the people at Walmart wonder why I buy so many waterproof mattress > covers. lol. > > I am making a room in my basement for the cats and I was thinking of just > painting the floors and walls both with the water proof basement sealer > stuff and then the waterproof floor paint. > > Shower panelling might be a thought. > > t > > > Del Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Jenn, > > I don't have a drain but this sounds do-able. It will be a MAJOR project. > The room has cheap wood paneling on the lower half now which has absorbed > the pee and I plan to replace that with the shower paneling which can be > wiped off. Last time at the grocery when I picked up three gallon jugs of > vinegar, other people may have thought I was preparing for pickles ... > between the cats and MIL's laundry, lots of pee here! > > Del > > - Original Message - > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 9:14 AM > Subject: Re: ot- flooring for pee club members > > > Rough concrete is hard to clean, even when sealed. Use a heavy-duty concrete > floor PAINT. Roll it on thick, and do a few coats, enough to smooth out the > surface. MUCH easier to clean that way. That's how most industrial plant > floors are in the production rooms. You just hose it down, and squeegee the > water down the drain. If you don't have a drain, it's still easy to clean > with some spray cleaner and paper towels. I NEVER use a mop, mops just > spread the gook around and press it into the corners. > > Jenn > http://ucat.us > http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html > > ~~~ > What experience does anyone have with cement? Good and bad. I > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 7/14/2005 > > > -- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: ot- flooring for pee club members
Ha! I know the people at Walmart wonder why I buy so many waterproof mattress covers. lol. I am making a room in my basement for the cats and I was thinking of just painting the floors and walls both with the water proof basement sealer stuff and then the waterproof floor paint. Shower panelling might be a thought. tDel Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jenn, I don't have a drain but this sounds do-able. It will be a MAJOR project. The room has cheap wood paneling on the lower half now which has absorbed the pee and I plan to replace that with the shower paneling which can be wiped off. Last time at the grocery when I picked up three gallon jugs of vinegar, other people may have thought I was preparing for pickles ... between the cats and MIL's laundry, lots of pee here! Del - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 9:14 AM Subject: Re: ot- flooring for pee club members Rough concrete is hard to clean, even when sealed. Use a heavy-duty concrete floor PAINT. Roll it on thick, and do a few coats, enough to smooth out the surface. MUCH easier to clean that way. That's how most industrial plant floors are in the production rooms. You just hose it down, and squeegee the water down the drain. If you don't have a drain, it's still easy to clean with some spray cleaner and paper towels. I NEVER use a mop, mops just spread the gook around and press it into the corners. Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~What experience does anyone have with cement? Good and bad. I No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 7/14/2005
Re: housing/fostering of FeLV+ cats
Yay Karolyn! I wish you were closer to me. :( tonyaKarolyn Lount <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I live in the San Fancisco bay area. I have been taking FeLV+ catsinto my home for 13+ yrs. If you can get the cat to me I will take itsight unseenMy phone # is 510 522 4762
RE: Food for FeLV plus Urine Crystals, Brissle Update
Kyle, That's fantastic news about Brissle!!! Congratulations! I can see us all now keeping photo albums of our cats' noses! lol. As far as the food goes, I don't like science diet either, but I wouldn't make a change if I were you without going with something your vet recommends. And if your vet recommends it I would stay on it. Just my opinion. We were on cd-x for oxcilate crystals for a long time here. Now I've changed to IVD 'modified'. I've 'heard' the modified diet is for both types of crystals. You might want to ask your vet about it. I buy it from my vet and don't know if it's "prescription" or not, but assume it is. My vet sells several different brands of prescription foods for various problems though, so you might just ask about it. IVD may also have by products, etc I don't know. I just know we can't take a chance on more stones first and foremost, and I can't do a homemade diet. Good luck, and keep us posted on Brissle and Squeamie. ha! SqueRmie! tonyaHideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kathy, if you read the ingredient of Hills it includes preservative such as BHT or BHA if you know what they are, its something that you do not want to give your kitties to at all I would personally recommend stop giving Hills completely, but instead give her/him 250 mg to 500 mg of L- methionine (amino acid) in stead, my cats almost blocked with crystals in the past, but it completely got cured with this - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MelbeachSent: Friday, April 01, 2005 1:30 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Food for FeLV plus Urine Crystals, Brissle Update Kathy, Hill's is actually the same thing as Science Diet. That's what I'm trying to get away from because of the byproducts. It does work great though for the crystals. -Kyle - Original Message - From: Kathy Koutsis To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:38 PM Subject: Re: Food for FeLV plus Urine Crystals, Brissle Update After Killian had urine crystals our vet recommended HIll's Prescription Diet CD/S. You can only buy it at the vet's office - $25 for 10 pounds. But ever since Killian has been eating it, which is about 3 years now she has not had any reoccurences. Don't know if it has any byproducts though. Kathy Melbeach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well I'm at the end of my bag of Science Diet CD/S. So it's time to buy more food. Here's my dilemma. Brissle is my FeLV+ female. Her FeLV- brother Squermie has urine crystal issues. They are both 8 years old. Squermie was about 2 when he had his urine crystals episode. It was really bad. He had to stay at the vet twice with a catheter inserted, once for an entire week. They said if he had another incident, they would have to "make him a girl". Apparently, girls have wider tubes and dont have these problems. Up until Squermie's incident, we were feeding them Max Cat. I don't remember which type. But I was warned about byproducts and the Max Cat said it had no byproducts. So we used it and paid dearly. After the incident, they have both been eating only Science Diet CD/S. That was all 6 years ago and Squermie hasn't had another incident since. So I really don't want to tamper with success. But now I'm hearing more about how bad Science Diet is with byproducts. Is there a no-byproduct dry food that's also especially made for urine crystals? I say "especially made for urine crystals" instead of "low-magnesium" because I'm not sure if low-magnesium is the only thing that makes Science Diet CD/S so special. I remember asking my last vet if I could just buy one of the low-magnesium foods at the pet store. But he said absolutely no. Only Science Diet CD/S. I want to avoid feeding them both different foods. For one, it's s much easier to just keep a bowl of food down and forget about it. That's just always how it's been done with them. Also, if I give them different food, Squermie will surely get jealous and start picking on Brissle. I've considered giving Squermie back to the ex. But if I did that, Brissle would miss him. He can be an ogre at times. But he's gotten much better with age. I think weighing everything out, it would be better to keep him. I just have to be real fair about everything. Brissle has been doing great. We finished the VO injections about 2 weeks ago. She's almost back to her normal weight! She has plenty of energy. It's looking real good! I'll be taking Brissle to the vet next week for blood tests. One month ago, when this all started, her HCT was 9.7%. The pink in her nose makes a good visual indicator of HCT. It's still pretty light. Nowhere near as dark pink as Squermie's. But on the day I brought her to the vet, her nose was completely gray! I really don't remember how dark her nose was originally. I would highly recommend making a mental note or taking a picture of the pinkness of all your cat's noses, especiall
Re: New to List FELV + kittens
I agree with everything Belinda has said. I'm a little more 'out there' than most, but I just truly believe a vaccinated, adult cat is not going to 'catch' leukemia. Period. Kittens are very susceptible and need to be vaccinated asap. I would be very leery of mixing even a fully vaccinated kitten with a positive cat. Other than that, I feel that adults who 'catch' felv either were not vaccinated or had it all along and it just wasn't known until they got sick. tonyaBelinda Sauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Terri,I agree with almost everything Jenn said, except I'm not a fan of Cornell, in fact I think almost all of their info about FeLV is very out-dated. And I think the viruses life span outside of the host whether in a wet or dry enviornment is only seconds and not minutes. And I think the average lifespan is longer than suspected because I think alot healthy positive cats are never diagnosed.As far as healthy adult cats getting the virus, yes that is near zero chances, I have 6 furkids, my Bailey is my positive. He and Joey are always playing (sometimes alittle rough), grooming (and they have had tongue to tongue contact when they both want to groom each other at the same time), and I have had Joey PCR tested (tests the cats DNA), and Joey is negative. If anyone were going to get it from Bailey it would be him. I think keeping stress to nil is a very important factor in setting off the virus and yes giving immune boosting supplements is very good as long as it doesn't cause stress. Unfortuntely with Bailey it's impossible to give anything I can't put in his food and that he can't taste, he gets very stressed taking meds.He was positive at 5 months of age when I found him, and he turned 10 years old in May. He's had no health problems until last year when he came down with a pretty bad case of stomastisis and we tried everything from azithromyacin to chinese herbs to acupunture, it all helped but didn't completely resolve the problem (he did test positive for bartonella, and I have not had him retested which I really need to do, but at the time I was taking care of Buddie who had cancer, and taking blood is so stressful I figure as long as things are going OK why shake the boat). After about 6 or 7 months and Bailey was losing a little bit of weight we decided we had to pull his teeth, he still has his canines and the tiny ones in between those but the rest are gone. That seems to have done the trick. He has a bit of arthritis now but other than that he is in good health as far as we know!The vet thing is right on, so many vets EVEN today still say euthanize, and even more once a cat gets sick will say "Well it's the FeLV kicking in", and don't even bother trying to find out what is wrong with the cat. Get your self a good vet, one who is knowledgable about FeLV or at the very least will to be open minded about it.-- BelindaHappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kitties ...http://www.bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittenshttp://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candle Light Servicehttp://www.bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting & web design)http://HostDesign4U.com---BMK Designs (non-profit web sites)http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: ot- flooring for pee club members
Good point. I have no idea. But I found a wonderful forum for questions like that with a lot of builders on it that I've been posting on for ideas for cat proofing my house. It's www.gardenweb.com I know it says garden, but they have forums just for flooring, walls, etc... anything to do with your house and all kinds of things. t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another option, instead of ripping out walls, and using shower paneling, is to use horse stall wall mats. They are practically indestructible, made to withstand urine and poop, and completely non-porous. My biggest issue with any of it is the floor to wall seam. Caulk dries and peels away from the surfaces. Is there anything that can seal a wall to floor connection and make it a completely water-tight seal that wont degrade with time? A few examples of horse mats: http://www.humanemfg.com/animal.html http://www.groupsummit.com/Assets/Catalogs/mustang.pdf Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~ Jenn, I don't have a drain but this sounds do-able. It will be a MAJOR project. The room has cheap wood paneling on the lower half now which has absorbed the pee and I plan to replace that with the shower paneling which can be wiped off. Last time at the grocery when I picked up three gallon jugs of vinegar, other people may have thought I was preparing for pickles ... between the cats and MIL's laundry, lots of pee here! Del No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 7/14/2005
Re: ot- flooring for pee club members
wet-dry vacuums work really well to clean up the water when you're done washing, too -- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Spanky - CLS
Sheila, I am so sorry for yout loss. 12 years old for a positive is exceptional as I'm sure you know, but it doesn't help much right now. Take care of yourself and try to think of Spanky feeling well all the time now. Can you tell me what pu surgery is? tonya[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Belinda, Please add my boy Spanky to CLS he was felv + and had a pu surgery two years ago. He was fine this morning eating going to litter box. This was so unexpected I am in complete shock. He showed no sign of sickness. He was gray and white rag doll 12 years old. He gave me kisses and headbutts everyday even when he was not feeling well. He was so gentle and loving and I can't imagine waking up tomorrow and not seeing his beautiful face. You would think after losing so many precious ones that it would get easier, but this has really broken my heart.Sheila jpgflleLKWqmT.jpg Description: JPEG image
Re: ot- flooring for pee club members
Another option, instead of ripping out walls, and using shower paneling, is to use horse stall wall mats. They are practically indestructible, made to withstand urine and poop, and completely non-porous. My biggest issue with any of it is the floor to wall seam. Caulk dries and peels away from the surfaces. Is there anything that can seal a wall to floor connection and make it a completely water-tight seal that wont degrade with time? A few examples of horse mats: http://www.humanemfg.com/animal.html http://www.groupsummit.com/Assets/Catalogs/mustang.pdf Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~ Jenn, I don't have a drain but this sounds do-able. It will be a MAJOR project. The room has cheap wood paneling on the lower half now which has absorbed the pee and I plan to replace that with the shower paneling which can be wiped off. Last time at the grocery when I picked up three gallon jugs of vinegar, other people may have thought I was preparing for pickles ... between the cats and MIL's laundry, lots of pee here! Del No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 7/14/2005
Re: ot- flooring for pee club members
Hi all, I have a friend with lots of dogs with tile and she loves it too. I'm talking about glazed ceramic tile and using a dark colored grout. Definitely not white! lol. Also, if you keep the grout sealed properly it is supposed to be impenetrable. I never really thought about tiling. I wanted 'wood' floors, but I knew the cats would scratch them, and that if they did throw up on them or pee on them and I didn't find it right away it would ruin them. I was thinking vinyl because it would clean so easily and be less trouble. But I'm sure the cats would scratch it running and jumping all around. That's why I was looking at the most expensive 'scratch proof' vinyl. I've decided to go with the tile. The man putting my tile in said it would take about 4 days to do the job, but that it would be ready for me to move in immediately. He didn't say anything about waiting for it to 'set'. And I specifically asked, because I was trying to decide whether to go ahead and move in or wait till the job was finished and then move. I'll double check that. I know you have to let it set for like 10 days before you can go back and seal it, but he said you could walk on it, etc... My cats don't just 'pee' all over. Right now I still have carpet in one room and that's where everyone pees. No one has peed on my laminate (unless I put a rug down!), but it is ruined due to various leaks, spills, etc... and has been a total pain. My laminate was put down in the little squares too. The man doing my tile says he NEVER recommends laminate. period. If people want it he will do it, but he's seen too many problems with it and would never want it himself. One thing about tile, Sheila, is you can easily do just one room at a time as you said. Also, I have another friend with cats that basically learned to lay tile herself. If you have anyone handy like that tile is cheap! I'm thinking a yellowish/greenish/brownish tile with pee-yellow grout? lol. Nothing should show on that!!! ha! What will most likely happen though, is the cats will just pee more on the sofa and my bed! I'll have to buy a pretty new sofa and then keep it covered in plastic. CATS!!! tonya[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Sister put tile in her new house (22 cats) and she loves it. It will last forever and is easy to clean. My problem is I would have to move out with all my family while the work is being done. You can't walk on it for 2 or 3 days. If I could have one room at a time done and keep it closed till it sets, so kitties wouldn't have to be boarded out, that would be great. I think I'll check in to it. jpgcJnnRgQmvj.jpg Description: JPEG image
Re: housing/fostering of FeLV+ cats
Ahh, well, the way she stated it... it sounded like she was on her way to becoming a hoarder, and you guys know I've been really stressed out about my current hoarder case with these cats in Tennessee. Maybe I am a bit touchy right now. I apologize Kathryn, if I mis-construed your offer. I only have the best interests of the cats in mind. Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~ Ouch, Jenn. Kathryn doesn't take EVERY but she has been in this group a long time and from her posts, she has sounded like a very caring cat mom who has cared for many kitties, including positives for years. She has given good advise for us. And, if I remember correctly, she has decreased her group as she has become older - we have to do that, you know. I greatly admire her commitment to the kitties, again if my memory serves me correctly, she is somewhat disabled. Del No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 7/14/2005
Re: Spanky - CLS
I am very sorry about Spanky. I believe in the Rainbow Bridge and hope he is going to feel good over there. Stan
Re: ot- flooring for pee club members
Jenn, I don't have a drain but this sounds do-able. It will be a MAJOR project. The room has cheap wood paneling on the lower half now which has absorbed the pee and I plan to replace that with the shower paneling which can be wiped off. Last time at the grocery when I picked up three gallon jugs of vinegar, other people may have thought I was preparing for pickles ... between the cats and MIL's laundry, lots of pee here! Del - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 9:14 AM Subject: Re: ot- flooring for pee club members Rough concrete is hard to clean, even when sealed. Use a heavy-duty concrete floor PAINT. Roll it on thick, and do a few coats, enough to smooth out the surface. MUCH easier to clean that way. That's how most industrial plant floors are in the production rooms. You just hose it down, and squeegee the water down the drain. If you don't have a drain, it's still easy to clean with some spray cleaner and paper towels. I NEVER use a mop, mops just spread the gook around and press it into the corners. Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~What experience does anyone have with cement? Good and bad. I No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 7/14/2005
Re: housing/fostering of FeLV+ cats
Ouch, Jenn. Kathryn doesn't take EVERY but she has been in this group a long time and from her posts, she has sounded like a very caring cat mom who has cared for many kitties, including positives for years. She has given good advise for us. And, if I remember correctly, she has decreased her group as she has become older - we have to do that, you know. I greatly admire her commitment to the kitties, again if my memory serves me correctly, she is somewhat disabled. Del - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 8:53 AM Subject: Re: housing/fostering of FeLV+ cats Wait, you said you will take in EVERY FELV+ cat that is offered to you, sight unseen? How many do you have now? I know of about 200 or so in need of homes at any given time. I can call all of the shelters and tell them to stop euthanising FELV+ cats, and instead give them all to you. Sorry, I hate to be a sarcastic sounding bitch, but your offer rings of insincerity and/or an unrealistic offer. Can you provide two veterinary references, plus three personal references not related to you? Are you a member of, or have you worked with any rescue groups? If so, can we have their contact info? Do you have pictures of your property and current cats? How large is your cat house? Are all cats kept indoors only, or contained in some kind of cat proof fencing? Do you cage cats, or let them roam freely in the house? How far do you pursue treatment for these cats, do you use any of the treatments listed on our website? At what point do you consider it time to let a cat go, and humanely euthanise him/her? Do you have a staff, or do you take care of all the litterboxes, feeding, medical care, vet visits, grooming, and socializing yourself? Maybe you are a kind person who just does not realize the scope of the problem outside your own little area. With an offer like you just made, you would be overrun with hundreds of cats within days to weeks. All of us here try to take in what we can, when we can. There is only a limited number of cats any one person can manage at one time. Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address you can send them to, to help feed Bazil! No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 7/14/2005
Re: Spanky - CLS
Sheila, Twelve years! You and Spanky were blessed. That doesn't make losing him any easier. Big hugs, Del - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 8:32 PM Subject: Spanky - CLS Belinda, Please add my boy Spanky to CLS he was felv + and had a pu surgery two years ago. He was fine this morning eating going to litter box. This was so unexpected I am in complete shock. He showed no sign of sickness. He was gray and white rag doll 12 years old. He gave me kisses and headbutts everyday even when he was not feeling well. He was so gentle and loving and I can't imagine waking up tomorrow and not seeing his beautiful face. You would think after losing so many precious ones that it would get easier, but this has really broken my heart.Sheila
Re: Spanky - CLS
Shelia, Please accept my condolences, I am so sorry to hear about Spanky...headbutts and kisses mean the world. Cherie[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Belinda, Please add my boy Spanky to CLS he was felv + and had a pu surgery two years ago. He was fine this morning eating going to litter box. This was so unexpected I am in complete shock. He showed no sign of sickness. He was gray and white rag doll 12 years old. He gave me kisses and headbutts everyday even when he was not feeling well. He was so gentle and loving and I can't imagine waking up tomorrow and not seeing his beautiful face. You would think after losing so many precious ones that it would get easier, but this has really broken my heart.Sheila Have a purrfect day Cherie jpgSINIlZnFTV.jpg Description: JPEG image
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Sheila, I am so sorry about Spanky. Joan
Re: Spanky - CLS
Sheila, I'm so sorry to hear about Spanky. Spanky lived a good life with you. Bless you for caring for the kitty. Our furangels have met with Spanky at the bridge to show the way to a place that is free of illnesses and pain. Your in my thoughts and prayers! Terrie MohrTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverCheck sites for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescueClick Here to Join K9 and Puddy Xpress Yahoo http://groups.yahoo.com/group/K9andPuddyXpress/joinhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.orecatay.com/http://www.awca.net/index.htmhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/http://www.meezer.com/http://thesiamesestore.com/http://tx.siameserescue.org/adopt.htmlSouthern CA. Siamese Rescuehttp://cs.siameserescue.org/Northern CA. Siamese Rescuehttp://cn.siameserescue.org/http://co.siameserescue.org/http://va.siameserescue.org/https://www.paypal.com/
Re: Spanky - CLS
Shelia, I'm so sorry to hear that you lost Spanky. You have my condolences. Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address you can send them to, to help feed Bazil! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 7/14/2005
Re: ot- flooring for pee club members
Rough concrete is hard to clean, even when sealed. Use a heavy-duty concrete floor PAINT. Roll it on thick, and do a few coats, enough to smooth out the surface. MUCH easier to clean that way. That's how most industrial plant floors are in the production rooms. You just hose it down, and squeegee the water down the drain. If you don't have a drain, it's still easy to clean with some spray cleaner and paper towels. I NEVER use a mop, mops just spread the gook around and press it into the corners. Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~What experience does anyone have with cement? Good and bad. I No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 7/14/2005
Re: ot- flooring for pee club members
Tile has grout, grout is porous. I'd advise against it, unless this guy has some kind of industrial sealer he puts over all the grout that is cat pee proof. My mom remodeled her kitchen once. She had fancy tiled countertops installed. They were BEAUTIFUL! She spilled coffee on it... grout turned permanently tan in one spot. She spilled kool-ade on it, grout turned permanently pink in one spot. She scrubbed with bleach... it didn't help. She was devastated. She sold the house and moved to another city, after spending all that money on this place. It was spectacular (except for the discolored brand new tile countertops). Never underestimate the crushing power of defeat. Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address you can send them to, to help feed Bazil! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 7/14/2005
Re: housing/fostering of FeLV+ cats
Wait, you said you will take in EVERY FELV+ cat that is offered to you, sight unseen? How many do you have now? I know of about 200 or so in need of homes at any given time. I can call all of the shelters and tell them to stop euthanising FELV+ cats, and instead give them all to you. Sorry, I hate to be a sarcastic sounding bitch, but your offer rings of insincerity and/or an unrealistic offer. Can you provide two veterinary references, plus three personal references not related to you? Are you a member of, or have you worked with any rescue groups? If so, can we have their contact info? Do you have pictures of your property and current cats? How large is your cat house? Are all cats kept indoors only, or contained in some kind of cat proof fencing? Do you cage cats, or let them roam freely in the house? How far do you pursue treatment for these cats, do you use any of the treatments listed on our website? At what point do you consider it time to let a cat go, and humanely euthanise him/her? Do you have a staff, or do you take care of all the litterboxes, feeding, medical care, vet visits, grooming, and socializing yourself? Maybe you are a kind person who just does not realize the scope of the problem outside your own little area. With an offer like you just made, you would be overrun with hundreds of cats within days to weeks. All of us here try to take in what we can, when we can. There is only a limited number of cats any one person can manage at one time. Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address you can send them to, to help feed Bazil! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 7/14/2005
Re: housing/fostering of FeLV+ cats
Hi, I live in the San Fancisco bay area. I have been taking FeLV+ cats into my home for 13+ yrs. If you can get the cat to me I will take it sight unseen My phone # is 510 522 4762
