Re: OT: My Sign from Bailey
I think surely they could at least give you a copy of the photo. Offer to pay postage or whatever. tBelinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nina,I wrote to the weather station and asked if they could send me a copy, probably not but it's worth a try. I grabbed my camera because they showed it a second time which I didn't expect, but they never showed it a third time so I didn't get it.-- Belindahappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kittieshttp://bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittenshttp://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candlelight Servicehttp://bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design]http://HostDesign4U.comBMK Designs [non-profit animals websites]http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: URGENT-Bert needs HELP!!
/where are you Rachel?t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Awww Tad,BLESS YOU!!! I wish there were more people out there like you! I have 3 adult FeLV+ and a whole litter of 8 week old kittens in rescue that need homes. Sometimes it seems like an impossible feat to find them homes, but seeing messages like this make my day.Purrs and headbutts from the whole clan here!~ Rachel Operation Foster Felixwww.operationfosterfelix.orgSharing Our Hearts, Homes Litter Boxes "If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief Dan George- Original Message - From: Chris To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 1:16 PM Subject: RE: URGENT-Bert needs HELP!! Tad-youre amazing. Not only would Switters love itthe old guys would probably love for him to have somebody else to play withIm sure theyd be happy refereeing and watching! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tad BurnettSent: Friday, May 12, 2006 1:07 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: URGENT-Bert needs HELP!!I bet Switters would like a young boy.. Switters is almost a year old and super active...Don't let him be euthanized... If no one else will take him and he can get to Vermontwe can make space here...Tad[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Will find out location soon. This was a forward from another rescue group.Can anyone help this kitty?From: Becky McCaffery [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:48 PMTo: Susan Linker; Sarkosi,Diana A; Pet ProtectorsCc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: URGENT-Bert needs HELP!!Bert is a very sweet FeLV+ kitty who is almost a year old. He is scheduled to be euthanized soon-he needs help ASAP!! He has been looking for a home since he was two months old. Here is his story:PLEASE HELP BERT!!! HE IS IN DIRE STRAITS!! Bert is a very sweet, friendly little guy who has tested positive for feline leukemia. Cats with leukemia can still have a good life, and we hope that this will be the case for poor little Bert. He currently appears to be in very good health. He is very playful and affectionate, and is DESPERATELY seeking a home. Bert has been fully vaccinated and neutered. If you would like to give this sweet little boy a chance to live a good life, please send an e-mail and request an application, or call the shelter. Don't pass him by and think that someone ELSE will surely adopt him-LET IT BE YOU Bert was adopted last year along with his FeLV+ friend Jill by a woman who turned out to be bi-polar, and he was returned to the shelter. His best friend Jill was soon adopted out again, leaving Bert behind. Bert is scheduled to be euthanized soon-PLEASE help him!!Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverCheck sites for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttps://www.paypal.com/http://www.frappr.com/wasiameserescue
Re: URGENT-Bert needs HELP!! GOOD NEWS!!!!!
YAY!!![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I wanted to let you Bert has a home!! Read below! Made my day even thought the rest of the week was crappy!In a message dated 5/12/2006 12:23:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, Thank you so very much for your help and concern. Luckily, yesterday Bert was transported out to his forever home with a retired couple in MA looking for a friend for their other FeLV+ kitty. Lucky Bert!! Becky, Hidden Treasures- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 1:13 PM Subject: Re: URGENT-Bert needs HELP!! I have a taker if someone can contact Tad directly regarding Bert! Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverCheck sites for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttps://www.paypal.com/http://www.frappr.com/wasiameserescue
Re: Mixing FeLv non FeLv
This was how I got started. I had 12 cats total. The positive (I didn't know was positive) was about 8 weeks old and her 'best friend' was a negative about the same age. They were together at least a month, probably closer to 2. I found out she was positive, tested, retested, retested everyone. She stayed positive and lived to 6 or 7 years old. Everyone else who is still with me is still negative. The ones I've lost died from various reasons, kidney disease, stroke, etc... ALL were retested the rest of the time only when they got ill. NONE ever tested positive. I still have the 'littermate/friend' who was a kitten when exposed to my positive years ago. He is still negative.tPam Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that finally mixing FIV non FIV kitties is FINALLY being accepted but I am wondering as to what you all here think about mixing FeLv non FeLv kitties. My daughter adopted a kitten years ago that was not tested for FeLv until she was about 3 months old. When she was tested, it was positive. They already had another cat the two had been together since little Juniper arrived, so essentially 3 months. Jonas was tested he was negative. I believe he was given the vaccine then. Juniper has since gone to the bridge Jonasis still healthy non FeLv.I know that there are many folks who do mix but I would like to hear the feelings about it here. Pam Hurricane Katrina's terrible message: if it is too dangerous for YOU to stay behind as a disaster approaches, then why would you leave your PETS behind? Never ever ever leave them behind! Have enough crates for all take them with you! They are your family!
Re: Lysine question
Carmen, Did you mean to send me this message individually, because that is how it was sent. I do not even think I weighed in on the recent lysine discussion, so I think maybe it was a mis-send? I do know that a lot of people in this group have given their cats 500 mg per day, though, and that this is a standard. It is true that cats are smaller, but they handle certain things differently (for instance they can handle way way more steroids proportionally than we can), and also I am not sure that taking extra lysine is actually toxic. Michelle In a message dated 5/13/2006 1:39:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is a quick response to your cat taking lysine. 500 mg is what is to be given to humans at a humans average body weight. NOT a little animals! So if you are giving 500mg to a small animal ( cat averagesabout 8 to 15 lbs,) that is way out of proportion to itsbody weight to ratio . And you stated you are or where administering this supplement everyday. This is got to beway to much for the animal. This could lead to some toxicity reaction. Or just the animal not feeling to good. I would not give a cat or dog Over 250 mg a day. Think of the animals stomach. There stomachs are not built like a humans at all. Also did you ever think of crushing the pill and mixing in the food. good luck
Re: URGENT-Bert needs HELP!!
I'm in Dayton, OH. Two of the adults are asymptomatic and healthy as can be. One was a light positive so I'm praying that a retest will be negative. I originally pulled two adults, one who is still with me and recovering from a ton of infections and slowing improving. Sadly the other little guy had a ruptured bladder and it was too late for him. All of these cats came from the same home, where there were other cats that tested negative. There is another female on the property who recently had a litter (3 weeks) in a garage. She is a purely feral though and I can't locate the kittens. The garage is a maze and I don't want to trap her yet in case I can't find the babies. From what I've been told, she is has been around for at least 6 years and had litter upon litter, most who die or that look miserable. She herself looks terrible and I have a sick feeling she is positive as well. Sorry to ramble, but thank you for asking. ~ Rachel Operation Foster Felix www.operationfosterfelix.orgSharing Our Hearts, Homes Litter Boxes If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan George On 5/13/06, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /where are you Rachel? t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Awww Tad, BLESS YOU!!! I wish there were more people out there like you! I have 3 adult FeLV+ and a whole litter of 8 week old kittens in rescue that need homes. Sometimes it seems like an impossible feat to find them homes, but seeing messages like this make my day. Purrs and headbutts from the whole clan here! ~ Rachel Operation Foster Felix www.operationfosterfelix.orgSharing Our Hearts, Homes Litter Boxes If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan George - Original Message - From: Chris To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 1:16 PM Subject: RE: URGENT-Bert needs HELP!! Tad-you're amazing. Not only would Switters love it—the old guys would probably love for him to have somebody else to play with—I'm sure they'd be happy refereeing and watching! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tad BurnettSent: Friday, May 12, 2006 1:07 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: URGENT-Bert needs HELP!! I bet Switters would like a young boy.. Switters is almost a year old and super active...Don't let him be euthanized... If no one else will take him and he can get to Vermont we can make space here...Tad[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will find out location soon. This was a forward from another rescue group. Can anyone help this kitty? From: Becky McCaffery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:48 PMTo: Susan Linker; Sarkosi,Diana A; Pet ProtectorsCc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: URGENT-Bert needs HELP!! Bert is a very sweet FeLV+ kitty who is almost a year old. He is scheduled to be euthanized soon-he needs help ASAP!! He has been looking for a home since he was two months old. Here is his story: PLEASE HELP BERT!!! HE IS IN DIRE STRAITS!! Bert is a very sweet, friendly little guy who has tested positive for feline leukemia. Cats with leukemia can still have a good life, and we hope that this will be the case for poor little Bert. He currently appears to be in very good health. He is very playful and affectionate, and is DESPERATELY seeking a home. Bert has been fully vaccinated and neutered. If you would like to give this sweet little boy a chance to live a good life, please send an e-mail and request an application, or call the shelter. Don't pass him by and think that someone ELSE will surely adopt him-LET IT BE YOU Bert was adopted last year along with his FeLV+ friend Jill by a woman who turned out to be bi-polar, and he was returned to the shelter. His best friend Jill was soon adopted out again, leaving Bert behind. Bert is scheduled to be euthanized soon-PLEASE help him!! Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/Driver Check sites for available Siameses for adoption! http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/ Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet! http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.felineleukemia.org/ http://www.petloss.com/ TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS https://www.paypal.com/ http://www.frappr.com/wasiameserescue-- We give dogs time we can spare, space we can spare and love we can spare. And in return, dogs give us their all. It's the best deal man has ever made.~ M. Facklam
RE: OT: heartbroken
Hideyo,You definitely have way too much on your hands to do adoptions. Maybe you could do a petfinder site though?I know this sounds cruel. I don't know how old you are either... but there comes a time you have to take cats you find like this to a shelter. You can't take them all, and you're too overwhelmed yourself to take in more. :(tHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I am so sure that they are adoptable ---and I used to go to adoption clinic every single week a few years ago.. maybe I did adopted out a couple of them during that time.. (I was very very selective as to whom ) but considering the number that I have, considering the amount of time I need to care for the ones I have.. I decided to spend time taking care of them instead of finding a home for one or two in a year or two which will not make much difference in my life..From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan HoffmanSent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 5:35 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: OT: heartbrokenSenior and special needs cats are adoptable. It takes longer and you work harder at it but I firmly believe that, somewhere, there's a forever home for every foster cat in my care -- and that forever home is not necessarily me. You just have to really work on finding adoptive homes.Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am pretty well connected with the people in the rescue group I know them and they all know about me pretty much.. all the people I know of, they are in some what similar situations as I am they usually find a problem for ME to solve because they know that I will not say NO and they are right.. I never say NO to any cats who need a help and thats why I have what I have ---some are Felk, or FIV, or injured, sick.. I nurture them back to health whenever I can.. and no one wants the cats I have.. but instead they call me if I could take care of the ones they find..From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan HoffmanSent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 5:17 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: OT: heartbrokenWhere are you located? Perhaps there are other rescue people in your area. Your really must join the freral cat group I referenced in my earlier post. It's a nationwide group with close to 2000 members now.Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, everyone, please understand I do spay and neuter whenever the opportunity there is I dont even want to tell you how many cats I have with me because its going to freak everyone out but I am saying that I simply dont have a space right now to even temporarily keep them.. I am used up all the crates that I have because I have trapped some more I might have to catch ten or twenty before I can get the mama, but the meantime, I dont have a place to recover all of them thats my dilemma, otherwise I would have gotten all of them right away.From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan HoffmanSent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 5:04 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: OT: heartbrokenSeveral years ago when I trapped Cutie-Pie's babies one by one and brought them inside, she cried and ran around the house looking for them at first. But when she saw them in my foyer through the screen door she was fine. She knew I had them. (They screamed like crazy for her but she was fine with it.) Cutie-Pie was later trapped and spayed and then returned to my backyard. She is an untouchable feral girl. Now she is a plump plush little feral queen who presides over a colony of herself and 4 neutered feral boys. They live in my backyard and basement, are spoiled rotten (canned and dry food, catnip), and are very happy and safe there. In all these years Cutie has never allowed me the pet her, even once, but she will sit near me when I am outside and blink her eyes at me (throwing kisses).janine paton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've also trapped moms using kittens for bait. It'sheartbreaking until you see the mom weeks after thespay and she looks so much better and relaxed. Think of it this way - if you didn't try this - thekittens will get bigger, she will have a harder timecaring for them. They will start wandering andsomething could happen to them. She will get pregnantagain and not want that litter anymore. When I've brought a feral mom in with kittens and momsees I'm willing to take care of the kittens, she isrelieved and it's probably the first break she's hadin a long time. I've had mothers who are sick but youwouldn't even know it until they understand they nolonger have pretend to be fine just because they havekittens. I also will show the kittens to the mom when I can butI always tell her it's OK, her babies are fine.Take a deep breath and go for the spay - it will makea big difference in her quality of life.--- Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: I've done
Re: A new story of Gurfunkle
I'm crying with you Hideyo. But how comforting, and releasing, to know that you healed his emotional wounds and made him whole and trusting again, so he can continue on his journey and his mission. I know how painful the memories of your darling Garfunkle are for you. I hope your sister's revelations bring you some small comfort. much love and big hugs, Kerry - Original Message - From: Hideyo Yamamoto To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 3:24 PM Subject: A new story of Gurfunkle Some of you might remember about my beloved Garfunkle who crossed the bridge in November which seems so hard to believe.. it seems like just yesterday. I still miss and love him so very much. My sister who lives in Japan is a sort of psychic (I hate the term, but it speaks to the point she sees and feels things that no one might be able to) - since she is my sister, I know that its true.. she has done and said some amazing things that she wouldnt have known otherwise in the past.. Anyway, she is planning to go to one of the most spiritual shrine in Japan this weekend for spiritual purifications and empowerment, and she had asked me to send her pictures of all of my animals (the ones still live and ones crossed) so that their soul/life can be further purified. Anyway she got the pictures in the mailwhen she looked at all the pictures, she told me that she saw something very powerful on the Garfukles picture he said that he was human in his previous life and something bad happened, and he could no longer trust human in his previous life and passed away, thats why he was sent back as a cat so that he would meet someone whom he will be able to trust again.. that was his life that we had together we bonded so strong and I love him so much and he loves me so much.. he no longer did not have a doubt in trusting human again (according to my sister) when he accomplished his mission, he was supposed to cross the bridge rather with a short life so that now he can have another journey - now he will be able to trust human again in his next life.. and my sister told me that thats why he left this so soon as he had a very specific assignment given to him for this life (I and Garfunkle spent only three years together) and he is one of the friendliest feral kitties that I have met from the very beginning I met him.. he was and is and will be so special to me... and miss him so terribly still She told me that a soul even after crossing the bridge can travel so far and so quickly and she told me that he is always right there with me.. so not to be feeling too lonely.. I just wanted to share my Garfunkle story with everyone. And am crying again missing my special boy
Re: Lysine question
I'm just speaking from my personal recent experience and what I was told by my holistic MD (human doc who I see for thyroid). I don't have a holistic vet in my area that I go to, so I asked her. The first FeLV+ rescue I took in recently was doing really poorly on the topical and oral antibiotics for a herpeseye infection. I am not a huge fan of using antibiotics and have used Lysine myself for cold sores in the winter. I had been giving him 500 mg of Lysine in wet food once a day, but still he wasn't improving very fast. I can't remember who (I'm sorry, but THANK YOU) on this group gave me the advice to bump it up to 1000 mg a day and start giving him Felivite II also. 1000 mg seemed like an awful lot for a tiny kitty. He had severe anemia from flea infestation as well so he was a miserable 7 pounds. My doc said Lysine has little toxicity since it's an amino acid. It CAN increase the toxicity of certain medication and long term in high doses has shown a tendency to cause gallstones in humans (though she didn't know how likely this was in animals). It doesn't cause stomach upset. Peanut has been on 1000 mg of Lysine in two divided doses for nearly 2 weeks, along with the Felivite II. She also recommended I add Pau d' Arco once a day to his food and use a few drops of Goldenseal with his eyewash when cleaning the gunk from his eyes. It has worked wonders, better than I expected. In just a couple of days, his eyes were almost clear. He has started putting on weight fast. He's now up to almost 9 pounds and just looks so much healthier. Anyway, if you can find a holistic vet or even a human nutritionist to call, it might make you feel better about giving Lysine in that dose. I wasn't seeing improvement at 500 mg, which was just my experience. Good luck! ~ Rachel Operation Foster Felix www.operationfosterfelix.orgSharing Our Hearts, Homes Litter Boxes If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan George On 5/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carmen, Did you mean to send me this message individually, because that is how it was sent. I do not even think I weighed in on the recent lysine discussion, so I think maybe it was a mis-send? I do know that a lot of people in this group have given their cats 500 mg per day, though, and that this is a standard. It is true that cats are smaller, but they handle certain things differently (for instance they can handle way way more steroids proportionally than we can), and also I am not sure that taking extra lysine is actually toxic. Michelle In a message dated 5/13/2006 1:39:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is a quick response to your cat taking lysine. 500 mg is what is to be given to humans at a humans average body weight. NOT a little animals! So if you are giving 500mg to a small animal ( cat averagesabout 8 to 15 lbs,) that is way out of proportion to itsbody weight to ratio . And you stated you are or where administering this supplement everyday. This is got to beway to much for the animal. This could lead to some toxicity reaction. Or just the animal not feeling to good. I would not give a cat or dog Over 250 mg a day. Think of the animals stomach. There stomachs are not built like a humans at all. Also did you ever think of crushing the pill and mixing in the food. good luck -- We give dogs time we can spare, space we can spare and love we can spare. And in return, dogs give us their all. It's the best deal man has ever made. ~ M. Facklam
New to the list - hello.
I'm sorry this is so long - but it's my first post but I feel I need to give some background information in the hope that some of you with more experience may have recommendations. First and foremost - thank you for being here...and to you who are going through the pain of having a catfamily member suffer with this disease or who have lost someone close - my heart is with you. Monday I noticed that a member of my cat family had a distinctly visible nictating membrane on both eyes - nearly half way closed on one side. The next morning, I took her to my vet's office. On a gut feeling, I asked them to test her for FeVL. Although she had been vaccinated a little over a year ago, she tested positive. The vet and the vet tech gently prodded me to make a 'quality of life' decision that day. She had lost about 14% of her body weight and didn't have enough of an immune system to run a fever. (She was initiallya feral cat who adopted me two years ago and blessedme with 12 kittens. My vet saidthat was a record) Iam notready to say goodbye - she will let me know when it is time. Right now she's not feeling that great (anemia) but sheseems to have a decentquality of life. She ran up the steps to greet me the next day with tail straight up in the air. I don't want to selfishly keep her going just for me if she is truly suffering but myheart says it isn't time. I asked if there was anything that would make her more comfortable. They gaveher ammoxi dropsand 'Pet Tinic' to build her blood. I told them toexpect me to have a lot of questions and they were very understanding. Itook offwork the rest of the day...came home and did my research. That's when I found the Felineleukemia.org website. Thanks totheinformation provided, I found out about Acemannan - a drug my veterinarian had never heard about. I tracked down the manufacturer and distributors and sent my vet a lot of information about it and asked if this would be a reasonable course of treatment and if he would assist me. My vet was also able to find information about this drug and he got it here in 2 days. We began treatment yesterday. Since my vet is not familiar with this drug - he told me that he really didn't know what to expect in terms of how she would feel after the shot so I've been watching her closely. It may be a coincidence but since she got the shot - she's been eating more than I've seen her eat in a while. For days I've been trying to get her to eat a teaspoon of canned foodseveral times a day without muchsuccess and she wouldn't touch her dry food. Yesterday after her first treatment, she ate dry food and also about half a can of canned food. I'm trying not to have false hope but I couldn't help but be encouraged.All the kids hereeat 'Chicken Soup for the Cat Lover's Soul' cat food. I have a feeling that nutrition is going to play a huge role inhelping her to copewith thisand so I am currently looking for diet and supplementation information too. I'm trying to keep a level head - which isn't easy when it's your baby - and I know and accept that realistically, the oddsmay not bein our favor...but I believe I would be remiss if I didn't try. One concern is that this is an eight cat household. Entirely too many cats..but that is another story.While this number will not increase - giving up even one is not an option. They live inside. Everyone elsehas been vaccinated and is in good health. MK is in the habit of being outside in the day and inside at night...but she doesn't leave the yard (truly an extraordinary cat person). Since she's been sick though - I've been keeping her inside except for brief periods in the afternoon when she wants to sunbathe on the front porch. I am concerned about infecting the other indoor cats who range in age from 2-7. Any information or recommendation would be most welcome. Thank you, elizabeth
Adoptions (was OT: heartbroken)
NOT the shelter. You have to be committed to finding good forever homes. Adoptions are hard work. I understand the temptation to just close up shop and keep the ones you have but if you do that there comes a point when you have to stop taking in anyone new. And there are too many out there whose lives depend on getting into a foster/rescue situation.I don't do caged petstore adoptions. The cats do not show well unnder those conditions and it just isn't an efficient use of time. Here's what I do:1. Craigslist.org -- Everyone -- kittens, seniors, special needs -- gets listed on craigslist. There are craigslist boards across the country. Some are more active than others. I'm in the San Francisco area with a very active craigslist and I do most of my adoptions through craigslist. (Also recruit foster homes via craigslist.) Listing is free. Take great photos.2. Pennysaver and other newspapers -- I'm looking at the Pennysaver newspaper for cats in foster homes in the Sacramento area. That craigslist is less active. A friend in the Los Angeles area has great success with adoptions via the Pennysaver so I'm thinking about using it in Sacramento too.3. Network -- This is especially helpful with harder-to-place cats. (a) A friend who works at a medical university is posting my epileptic kitten there for adoption. I figure the right home for Connie will be someone who is epileptic or who has an epileptic family member or perhaps has had a dog that is of a breed prone to epilepsy. It will be someone who understands how easily controllable this is. (b) This same friend has an FIV+ foster cat and we are looking for a home together for that cat and an FIV+ Siamese mix who is coming my way. (c) Another friend helped me place a senior 12+ year old Himi last year with a retired couple that she knew.4. Get creative -- Senior cats are a good fit for seniors and retirees, a population less likely to be online. Find the pet-friendly retirement communities in your area and see if they have a bulletin board where you can list senior cats. Again, take great photos.5. Online resources -- My FeLV+ girl is now listed online at a couple of places that feature special needs cats. (http://tinyurl.com/o553l) And I'm networkingandgetting creative. She's going to be one of the harder to adopt simply because of the stigma still attached to FeLV.6. Foster homes -- I've cultivated a few foster homes because that way (a) I can take more cats and (b) I can separate out populations. Tiny kittens have no business in my house -- I've seen too much uri and ringwork over the past couple of years -- so they go elsewhere. The FeLV+ girl is in an only-cat foster home. I have another foster home that gets one or two adults who donn't do well in multi-cat situations. I take the ones who have health or socialization issues at my house. Foster homes allow me to take in more animals and to take certain risks that I could not take if all the cats had to come to my house. The cats are better cared for and get more individualized attention this way. I have to do adoptions. If I don't do adoptions I can't do rescue. I spend my weeks screening potential adopters, clean the house on Saturday, and have approved adopters come primarily on Sunday, though sometimes I can have someone come in the evening during the week if the house is clean enough. (And, yes, I do have a fulltime job and a social/romantic life. I also have a long-suffering roommate who is a bigger softie than me and he helps with these guys.)So, please, reconsider on keeping them all yourself. There are people who will adopt many of those cats. You just have to rethink your approach to adoptions so you can find those people. As you get cats adopted out you make room to take in others. And a good adoptive home with one or two or three cats in residence and with financial and other resources not stretched so thin is really a better lifetime environment for an animal. They get over me awfully fast when I find them the right forever home. And that is as it should be. catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hideyo,You definitely have way too much on your hands to do adoptions. Maybe you could do a petfinder site though?I know this sounds cruel. I don't know how old you are either... but there comes a time you have to take cats you find like this to a shelter. You can't take them all, and you're too overwhelmed yourself to take in more. :(tHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I am so sure that they are adoptable ---and I used to go to adoption clinic every single week a few years ago.. maybe I did adopted out a couple of them during that time.. (I was very very selective as to whom ) but considering the number that I have, considering the amount of time I need to care for the ones I have.. I decided to spend time taking care of them instead of finding a home for one or two in a year or two which will not make
Re: Immunoregulin for Chelsea
Hi Nina, I'm paying $10 a dose for IR from my vet Do you remember where you got yours and what it cost? I friend of mine wants to start some of her felv+ kitties on IR and is fairly certain that she can get it from one of the vets that her rescue group works with, but I'd like to know where else we might be able to get it. Thanks, Deanne From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Immunoregulin for Chelsea Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 22:34:01 -0700 Thanks Deanne, I'm archiving the info and sent a forward to Sally. She lost her sweet baby Chrissy this afternoon, but the other kitty in trouble seems to be improving. I sent her the IR I had in my fridge and I'll let you know what happens if she decides to try it. I'm hoping that the success that Cindy had with administering it subq is not a fluke and that it will work for other kitties that stress out at the vet's office. Maybe that would work for your less-than-cooperative guys when/if the need arises. Nina ACALA PET ISSUES wrote: Chelsea received 1/2 ml I-V injections of immunoregulin aprox every 4 days for about 3 1/2 weeks for a total of 6 doses. We're now cutting back to once a week injections for another 3 weeks, at which time we'll do blood work to determine how her anemia is doing. If she's in the normal range, we'll probably continue with once a month immunoregulin injections for a few more months. If Chelsea is still anemia, we'll stay on once a week immunoregulin for a while longer. Though she was diagnosed with severe, non to poorly regenerative anemia, she's clearly been making red blood cells which I don't believe would have happened without the IR treatments. Really as anemic as Chelsea was, I was doubtful that she would respond to the treatment at all but she seems to be doing very well and is certainly enjoying life. We were lucky, Chelsea is a good patient and is very sweet by nature. It isn't easy to give I-V injections to a cat due to their small veins and it certainly isn't particularly easy on the cat either. I have several other felv+ rescue kitties, a couple of which will not be good candidates for IR treatment when they become symptomatic due to their less-than-cooperative personalities. We'll continue to give Chelsea other immune supportive supplements in addition to Immunoregulin and will hope for her continual improvement. Thanks for all your help, Deanne
Re: New to the list - hello.
Hi Elizabeth, I'm sorry that you and your cat (MK?) are going through this, but it does sound like you're doing the right things. I think you should consider testing and vaccinating the other cats. I'd definitely test everyone, but the vax part is a bit more iffy. You won't deal with that decision until the other felines come back as negatives. If it's possible to isolate MK without too much stress to her and everyone else, that might also be something to consider as a temporary measure until you figure out the status of the other cats. Nutrition is important, and Chicken Soup... seems to be a pretty good brand of food. My FeLV+ girl has been on their dry food and on Innova EVO canned. We'll probably be going to an all Innova EVO diet this weekend or early next week (our Chicken Soup... is about to run out). My Ember is also on Transfer Factor (the feline version), and while I don't know if it's helping anything yet (she has not begun to show symptoms yet), it doesn't seem like it could hurt. I'll be interested to hear more about what you see happening with the Acemannan. It sounds like it's helping out your girl. My vet doesn't seem to think much of it, but I was also pretty interested in it. We're using low dose human interferon (1cc/day; 5 days on/5 days off). Ember tolerates it just fine, and it is non-invasive. Before she realizes that anything is going on, we've gotten the interferon down her throat, and she'll often just stay cradled in my arms for half a minute afterwards. Please keep coming back here with any questions you have, and keep us updated on how your feline family members are doing. Take care. Lance
Re: Please add Papoose to CLS
Hi, I just wanted to thank everyone all the wonderful caring emails. It is so nice to have a group of cat lovers that do understand what you are going through. Thank you so much Jeni and Papoose From:Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject:Re: Please add Papoose to CLSDate:Thu, 11 May 2006 19:47:49 -0700Aww Jeni, I'm sorry about little Papoose.I know your heart is breaking, but it's so wonderful that you made the short time he had on earth full of love and caring.You might not have been able to give him more time, but you gave him something even more important, you gave him a place to belong; you gave him a loving and secure home.I'm sure your whole household is missing his sweet presence.Blessings to you in your grief,NinaJENI RECA wrote:I put Papoose feluk + to sleep today after he was running a 106.4 temp for the past 4 days and it wasnt going down he also was anemic and had a heart mummer and wasnt getting better.He lived a wonderful life of 8 months in our house with our dogs and our other feluk + cat.I miss him dearly and am happy he did not suffer. He was found on the streets of queens as a tiny little 5 week old kitten and brought to the shelter I work at.He came up postive on both test and I decided to adopt him instead of them putting him down.I am just sad that we did not have more time with him.Thank you.
Re: Lysine question
I give Bandy at least 500mg of lysine sprinkled on all his meals...I divide it among several meals through out the day so he gets at least 500 daily and sometimes alittle more..His eye specialist said keep giving that to him as it is good for the eyes...I don't really know how much he eats of it, but I always put it on the food..In several books that I have, that is the recommended dosage daily. Hope this helps.. Kerry, Bandy, Inky and Angels Buster, Lil Rascal and Snoopy Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates.
Re: My Sign from Bailey
Belinda, That is wonderful that you received that sign from Bailey..He was a beautiful kitty..I hope you do get a copy of it from them... Kerry, Bandy, Inky and Angels Buster, Lil Rascal and Snoopy Yahoo! Mail goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone.
Bella's Visit with a New Vet
I took Bella to see a holistic veterinarian today to discuss FeLV treatments. I liked him immediately, and he was very knowledgable about the importance of a good diet. (Every other vet. I've ever been to hawks corn-based foods in their office as the best choice, but this guy has analyzed ingredients in other foods and recommends those to his customers, and he's not making a profit on them either.)He examined Bella thoroughly, and she's the picture of health except for the slightly positive FeLV test last weekend. Since she's so healthy right now, he thinks she has a good chance of fighting off the virus herself. (He said 1/3 of the cats do this, and most of them are fed things like Meow Mix. Bella is at an advantage since I've fed her California Naturals since kittenhood.) He thinks we should try to keep her as healthy as possible so that she can fight this virus. He was already familiar with Dr. Belfield's work and has tremendous respect for him. He told me that people thought Belfield was nuts a long time ago, but that Belfield's beliefs long ago are now being proven to be true. He advised me to get the Mega C powder, to add a good B complex vitamin (and he likes Belfield's), and to use an Omega fatty acid supplement. (I bought one in his office.) He also mentioned that antioxidants couldn't hurt either. He also said that vitamin D is crucial to having a good immune system (as are the other vitamins mentioned). Currently, we keep my daughter's blinds pulled up during the day, and Bella loves to lie in the sunlight. He says that that is very healthy.He wasn't very gung-ho on interferon and said he's not convinced that it helps. He says that it is human-made and that its use, in his opinion,is not totally risk-free. He said that it could possibly make things worse. (He did say that he would be happy to get it for me if I still wanted it, but he also told me that if Bella were his cat, he would not.) He felt like it was safest to let her well-nourished body work against the virus. That's what we're going to do for now, since she is extremely healthy--much more so than typical cats, according to him (mainly due to her good diet).I just ordered Dr. Belfield's Mega C and Vitamin B complex and am eagerly awaiting its arrival. I'll keep everyone posted on her progress.~AshleighP.S. Cat foods that he really likes are Nutro Natural Choice Lamb Rice(NOT Max), Dick Van Patten's Natural Balance, I.V.D., California Naturals, and Felidae. He said that he's seen animals who were totally unresponsive to traditional treatments do a complete 180 when they are put on a good diet. Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.
Re: Prayers for Allie
Hi, My Bandy has been spiking a temp now since last June...all the way up to 106..at first we were giving him dex injections weekly, but now I give him 1/2 of a .75mg dex pill and the temp will go down in a matter of 3 to 6 hrs..The dex injections were too strong and could cause diabetes so we decided to put him on a smaller dose of pills...He has gone as long as 2 wks without a temp...but usually it only stays down a week or 8 days...I can tell without even taking it anymore when it spikes...his head always gets really hot and his shoulders...I was advised against the metcam for long term, something to do with stomach irritation...anyway, we never have used it...I would suggest the dex pills and see how your kitty responds...My vets say it is due to inflammation because he is FIV and Felv+...I do know when Bandy gets the dex pills, he is like a new kitty again...and so far it hasn't failed us...I have been using the pills since last Sept...and I think he has only had 2 or 3 dex injections since then as usually we were at the vet when it was up and I got them to go ahead with the injection since they have been so far apart... Hope this helps, Kerry and Bandy Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1/min.
Bandy's eye appt.
Hi everyone, Just wanted to update you all on Bandy's eye appointment last Thursday..We finally have some good news..and the doctor was even shocked...His eyes have improved..So for the moment, he can see some..He isn't running into things or being as cautious as he was 2 wks ago...His eyes aren't cloudy right now either...So we are on a maintenance dose of the prednisolone acetate and atropine...He gets the pred drops twice daily and atropine once daily now...we do a re-check if all is well in July otherwise I am to call if there is any change between now and then...He will have to remain on the drops the rest of his life though and the dosage adjusted according to how he responds...He said the fibrin clots were gone, but he has some scarring on the retina due to all of this...It is just part of his disease or I guess that is the cause of it..They did a toxo test, but it was negative..I think he was checked for this last August, too. Anyway, I am happy that he can see some...He is now climbing on things again..but he can't judge distance too well...I watched him yesterday, and he was very cautious about getting down...I guess he will learn how to deal with all of this...I am thinking about getting some pads to put on the floor near where he climbs so he won't hurt himself again...He likes to climb so I don't want to take that away from him... Anyway, head butts to all and hope your kitties are doing good today.. Kerry, Bandy, Inky and Angels Buster, Lil Rascal and Snoopy Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice.
Re: Bandy's eye appt.
Try putting up a ramp for him to use on the way down. He may try to do as one dog of mine did--jump over the pads (making things worse). If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kerry Roach To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 3:25 PM Subject: Bandy's eye appt. Hi everyone, Just wanted to update you all on Bandy's eye appointment last Thursday..We finally have some good news..and the doctor was even shocked...His eyes have improved..So for the moment, he can see some..He isn't running into things or being as cautious as he was 2 wks ago...His eyes aren't cloudy right now either...So we are on a maintenance dose of the prednisolone acetate and atropine...He gets the pred drops twice daily and atropine once daily now...we do a re-check if all is well in July otherwise I am to call if there is any change between now and then...He will have to remain on the drops the rest of his life though and the dosage adjusted according to how he responds...He said the fibrin clots were gone, but he has some scarring on the retina due to all of this...It is just part of his disease or I guess that is the cause of it..They did a toxo test, but it was negative..I think he was checked for this last August, too. Anyway, I am happy that he can see some...He is now climbing on things again..but he can't judge distance too well...I watched him yesterday, and he was very cautious about getting down...I guess he will learn how to deal with all of this...I am thinking about getting some pads to put on the floor near where he climbs so he won't hurt himself again...He likes to climb so I don't want to take that away from him... Anyway, head butts to all and hope your kitties are doing good today.. Kerry, Bandy, Inky and Angels Buster, Lil Rascal and Snoopy Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice.
Re: New to the list - hello.
First, don't let yourself be talked into killing her just because someone else has quality of life issues. You and she will know if and when it is time for her to leave this world with help. She may do like Kitty Katt and leave on her own. And that may be years and years from now. When Kitty was diagnosed with cancer the experts expected her to live a very few monthsshe lived 15 months and the quality of life was wonderful until the last 2-3 weeks. Listen to your heart and trust her to help you. She will. Dixie Louise Doodle was diagnosed with FeLV + a year ago. She is also just fine. We are having minor tooth problems but nothing you would not expect from a cat who was thrown away and lived pretty much on her own for several months. Given Kitty and Dixie I strongly suggest you forget about odds. The odds of being killed crossing a street are very small--unless you are the person killed then the odds are 100%. Concentrate on loving and caring for all your cats. Enjoy every minute with them (ok, almost every minute--sometimes it is hard). I like EVO myself and so does my holistic vet-by the way, holistic vets are great with FeLV+. I don't know where you are but my holistic vet is E A Boswell in Louisville KY. She has treated two of my dogs and two cats. She has definitely improved their lives and mine. Good luck. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 9:50 AM Subject: New to the list - hello. I'm sorry this is so long - but it's my first post but I feel I need to give some background information in the hope that some of you with more experience may have recommendations. First and foremost - thank you for being here...and to you who are going through the pain of having a catfamily member suffer with this disease or who have lost someone close - my heart is with you. Monday I noticed that a member of my cat family had a distinctly visible nictating membrane on both eyes - nearly half way closed on one side. The next morning, I took her to my vet's office. On a gut feeling, I asked them to test her for FeVL. Although she had been vaccinated a little over a year ago, she tested positive. The vet and the vet tech gently prodded me to make a 'quality of life' decision that day. She had lost about 14% of her body weight and didn't have enough of an immune system to run a fever. (She was initiallya feral cat who adopted me two years ago and blessedme with 12 kittens. My vet saidthat was a record) Iam notready to say goodbye - she will let me know when it is time. Right now she's not feeling that great (anemia) but sheseems to have a decentquality of life. She ran up the steps to greet me the next day with tail straight up in the air. I don't want to selfishly keep her going just for me if she is truly suffering but myheart says it isn't time. I asked if there was anything that would make her more comfortable. They gaveher ammoxi dropsand 'Pet Tinic' to build her blood. I told them toexpect me to have a lot of questions and they were very understanding. Itook offwork the rest of the day...came home and did my research. That's when I found the Felineleukemia.org website. Thanks totheinformation provided, I found out about Acemannan - a drug my veterinarian had never heard about. I tracked down the manufacturer and distributors and sent my vet a lot of information about it and asked if this would be a reasonable course of treatment and if he would assist me. My vet was also able to find information about this drug and he got it here in 2 days. We began treatment yesterday. Since my vet is not familiar with this drug - he told me that he really didn't know what to expect in terms of how she would feel after the shot so I've been watching her closely. It may be a coincidence but since she got the shot - she's been eating more than I've seen her eat in a while. For days I've been trying to get her to eat a teaspoon of canned foodseveral times a day without muchsuccess and she wouldn't touch her dry food. Yesterday after her first treatment, she ate dry food and also about half a can of canned food. I'm trying not to have false hope but I couldn't help but be encouraged.All the kids hereeat 'Chicken Soup for the Cat Lover's Soul' cat food. I have a feeling that nutrition is going to play a huge role inhelping her to copewith thisand so I am currently looking for diet and supplementation information too. I'm trying to keep a level head - which isn't easy when it's your baby - and I know and accept that realistically, the oddsmay not bein
Re: o/t help--injured bird!
try to find a wildlife rehabber On 5/13/06, Kerry MacKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Help--does anyone have any advice on helping injured sparrow I just found on my porch? Should I take it to emergency services? I leave town tomorrow morning so have no way to look after him/her after that. -- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: o/t help--injured bird!
You may want to check for wildlife rehabilitators in your area! I found one in our area online after we found a sick young bird in our back yard... But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de Saint-Exupéry If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. -- Chief Dan George - Original Message - From: Kerry MacKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, May 13, 2006 6:56 pm Subject: o/t help--injured bird! To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Help--does anyone have any advice on helping injured sparrow I just found on my porch? Should I take it to emergency services? I leave town tomorrow morning so have no way to look after him/her after that.
Re: o/t help--injured bird!
Hey Kerry, Looking for rehabers in your area I came across "Chicago Bird Collision Monitors". These folks have organized to help migratory birds that become disoriented, crash into the glass buildings and become injured. If they can't help, I'm betting they'll have numbers for rehaber in your area. Their hotline number for folks that have found injured birds is: 773-988-1867. They also list Flint Creek Wildlife Rehab: 847-602-0628, and Willowbrook Wildlife Center: 630-942-6200. Nina Kerry MacKenzie wrote: Help--does anyone have any advice on helping injured sparrow I just found on my porch? Should I take it to emergency services? I leave town tomorrow morning so have no way to look afterhim/her after that.
Re: Bella's Visit with a New Vet
Thanks for keeping us informed, Ashleigh. The holistic vet that you're seeing sounds like a good one. Because my allopathic vet voted down the Mega C, I'm going to start taking Ember to a holistic vet, in addition to the allopathic vet, who I do like very much. Interesting that the holistic vet voted down interferon. I had a consult call with the holistic vet here, and she wasn't big on interferon either. However, when we were talking about reversing positives, she said that she had done that once... with interferon. My allopathic guy had at least one reversal on interferon also. Hard to say if the interferon did it, however. Your comment about allopathic vets displaying corn-based crap in their offices is so on the money. I don't understand how or why it happens, and it makes me wonder just how highly the average allopathic vet regards nutrition and how much they understand about it. Unlike you, I'd had Ember on pretty bad (but supposedly good) food (Hill's Prescription Diet t/d) for most of her life, and it was recommended by our allopathic vet in Madison. When she tested positive and I started researching, I was shocked to find out just how bad that stuff is. It seems like, with the premium they charge, Hill's could manage better ingredients. They won't be getting any more of my money, if I can help it. Glad to hear that Bella's doing well. Please continue to keep us posted. Lance
Re: Please add Papoose to CLS
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Re: New to the list - hello.
Hi Elizabeth and welcome. I'm sorry your baby isn't feeling well and has tested pos for felv. We've all been were you are right now and understand how upset you must be. Of course you're not ready to say goodbye! I'm so glad you are willing to fight for her! Take a deep breath, there are things you can do to help her. If you've had MK for two years, it doesn't make any sense to create added stress by separating her from the rest of your cats, (imo). Feeding a good supplemented quality diet and keeping the stress level low are the two best ways to help keep her asymptomatic. If your other cats were going to contract felv from her, they probably already have. You could have them all tested for your peace of mind, or test them if they become sick. Since MK doesn't venture from your backyard and doesn't have contact with neighborhood cats, (felv is a "social" type disease, they have to have direct contact with a carrier to become infected, she wouldn't get it from the environment. "When it dries, it dies".), chances are she's had it all along. Most healthy adult cats, esp if vaccinated, either don't contract it when exposed, or have strong enough immune responses to fight it off and clear the virus. I have no experience with Acemannan, so I can't help you with that. One thing I would strongly suggest is for you to find a board certified Internist to help you. Felv is so darn unpredictable. It's not the Felv itself that our kitties succumb to, it's the secondary illness and cancers that take hold because their immune systems have been compromised. Bolstering their immune response and treating any sign of illness immediately are your best weapons. An Internist will be knowledgeable in kitty diseases and you won't waste time with GP vets that would have to refer you to a specialist at some point anyway. If she's showing symptoms of anemia, pale gums, licking concrete, lethargy etc, you need to find out what the reason for the anemia is and treat for that. The abx that your vet prescribed isn't a broad spectrum, it may or may not help. Have you run blood tests? Has she been tested for blood parasites? My Grace had problems with anemia and even though the Hemobartinella, (blood parasites), test came back negative my Internist was intuitive enough to put her on Doxycycline anyway, it saved her life more than once. I'm sure you'll get lots of great advice from the group. Weekends are notoriously slow for us. Hang in there and post as many times as you like about anything at all that you feel like talking about. This is the nicest, best informed group of people you'll ever run across. I'm so glad you found us. Keep your chin up and give your babies a head bump from me. One other thing... You mentioned that MK had a litter of 12 kittens. Do you have contact with any of them? If she has been infected since you got her, she very well may have passed the felv on to her babies invitro. You might want to contact anyone that you can and tell them about her status. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry this is so long - but it's my first post but I feel I need to give some background information in the hope that some of you with more experience may have recommendations. First and foremost - thank you for being here...and to you who are going through the pain of having a catfamily member suffer with this disease or who have lost someone close - my heart is with you. Monday I noticed that a member of my cat family had a distinctly visible nictating membrane on both eyes - nearly half way closed on one side. The next morning, I took her to my vet's office. On a gut feeling, I asked them to test her for FeVL. Although she had been vaccinated a little over a year ago, she tested positive. The vet and the vet tech gently prodded me to make a 'quality of life' decision that day. She had lost about 14% of her body weight and didn't have enough of an immune system to run a fever. (She was initiallya feral cat who adopted me two years ago and blessedme with 12 kittens. My vet saidthat was a record) Iam notready to say goodbye - she will let me know when it is time. Right now she's not feeling that great (anemia) but sheseems to have a decentquality of life. She ran up the steps to greet me the next day with tail straight up in the air. I don't want to selfishly keep her going just for me if she is truly suffering but myheart says it isn't time. I asked if there was anything that would make her more comfortable. They gaveher ammoxi dropsand 'Pet Tinic' to build her blood. I told them toexpect me to have a lot of questions and they were very understanding. Itook offwork the rest of the day...came home and did my research. That's when I found the Felineleukemia.org website. Thanks totheinformation provided, I found out about Acemannan - a drug my veterinarian had never heard about. I tracked down the manufacturer and distributors and sent my vet a lot of information about it and asked if
Re: Bandy's eye appt.
Hi Kerry, That Bandy is really something! What a cat! I'm so pleased he's regained some of his vision. Thank you for posting about his latest vet visit. As always you, Bandy and the rest of your babies are in my prayers, Nina Kerry Roach wrote: Hi everyone, Just wanted to update you all on Bandy's eye appointment last Thursday..We finally have some good news..and the doctor was even shocked...His eyes have improved..So for the moment, he can see some..He isn't running into things or being as cautious as he was 2 wks ago...His eyes aren't cloudy right now either...So we are on a maintenance dose of the prednisolone acetate and atropine...He gets the pred drops twice daily and atropine once daily now...we do a re-check if all is well in July otherwise I am to call if there is any change between now and then...He will have to remain on the drops the rest of his life though and the dosage adjusted according to how he responds...He said the fibrin clots were gone, but he has some scarring on the retina due to all of this...It is just part of his disease or I guess that is the cause of it..They did a toxo test, but it was negative..I think he was checked for this last August, too. Anyway, I am happy that he can see some...He is now climbing on things again..but he can't judge distance too well...I watched him yesterday, and he was very cautious about getting down...I guess he will learn how to deal with all of this...I am thinking about getting some pads to put on the floor near where he climbs so he won't hurt himself again...He likes to climb so I don't want to take that away from him... Anyway, head butts to all and hope your kitties are doing good today.. Kerry, Bandy, Inky and Angels Buster, Lil Rascal and Snoopy Blab-away for as little as 1/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice.
Re: Bella's Visit with a New Vet
You know, it really makes me downright angry to think of how much the traditional vets are doing a disservice to their patients by hawking Hill's products. I cannot recall the source at all, but I remember reading something about them getting some sort of benefit from the company for selling their food. (Hmmm, sounds a bit like people docs promoting the drugs of whichever rep. just sent them on a fishing trip, doesn't it?) For years, I fed Fred (my cat who dies of vaccine-associated fibrosarcoma) Hill's Science Diet. My vet recommended it as the best, and I happily spent the bucks on my kitty. I truly believe that people are actually being swindled when an animal "expert" recommends an expensive, unhealthy cat food. (Can you tell I feel strongly about this?) It was only because of information given to me by Bella's breeder that I started to really look at cat food ingredients. Thank goodness she was more enlightened than the local vets. Also, I do not think traditional vets are all bad. They generally do a good job, IMO, except for the food thing. Alos, I think they're too vaccine-happy. The holistic vet I saw today said vaccinating every three years (rather than annually) is fine. He then asked about Mississippi's law on frequency of rabies vaccinations. I told him they're required annually, but I also told him that the cops could come arrest me in my home if they needed to. I doubt, with all the FEMA trailer park crimes and meth labs exploding in this area, that they're too concerned about me and my indoor kitty. He laughed and agreed with me :-)~AshleighLance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for keeping us informed, Ashleigh. The holistic vet that you're seeing sounds like a good one. Because my allopathic vet voted down the Mega C, I'm going to start taking Ember to a holistic vet, in addition to the allopathic vet, who I do like very much. Interesting that the holistic vet voted down interferon. I had a consult call with the holistic vet here, and she wasn't big on interferon either. However, when we were talking about reversing positives, she said that she had done that once... with interferon. My allopathic guy had at least one reversal on interferon also. Hard to say if the interferon did it, however.Your comment about allopathic vets displaying corn-based crap in their offices is so on the money. I don't understand how or why it happens, and it makes me wonder just how highly the average allopathic vet regards nutrition and how much they understand about it. Unlike you, I'd had Ember on pretty bad (but supposedly good) food (Hill's Prescription Diet t/d) for most of her life, and it was recommended by our allopathic vet in Madison. When she tested positive and I started researching, I was shocked to find out just how bad that stuff is. It seems like, with the premium they charge, Hill's could manage better ingredients. They won't be getting any more of my money, if I can help it.Glad to hear that Bella's doing well. Please continue to keep us posted.Lance New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big.
Re: Mixing FeLv non FeLv
This is good. I'm glad you posted it. Pam - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 4:56 AM Subject: Re: Mixing FeLv non FeLv This was how I got started. I had 12 cats total. The positive (I didn't know was positive) was about 8 weeks old and her 'best friend' was a negative about the same age. They were together at least a month, probably closer to 2. I found out she was positive, tested, retested, retested everyone. She stayed positive and lived to 6 or 7 years old. Everyone else who is still with me is still negative. The ones I've lost died from various reasons, kidney disease, stroke, etc... ALL were retested the rest of the time only when they got ill. NONE ever tested positive. I still have the 'littermate/friend' who was a kitten when exposed to my positive years ago. He is still negative. tPam Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that finally mixing FIV non FIV kitties is FINALLY being accepted but I am wondering as to what you all here think about mixing FeLv non FeLv kitties. My daughter adopted a kitten years ago that was not tested for FeLv until she was about 3 months old. When she was tested, it was positive. They already had another cat the two had been together since little Juniper arrived, so essentially 3 months. Jonas was tested he was negative. I believe he was given the vaccine then. Juniper has since gone to the bridge Jonasis still healthy non FeLv. I know that there are many folks who do mix but I would like to hear the feelings about it here. Pam Hurricane Katrina's terrible message: if it is too dangerous for YOU to stay behind as a disaster approaches, then why would you leave your PETS behind? Never ever ever leave them behind! Have enough crates for all take them with you! They are your family!
Re: o/t help--injured bird!
You're an angel NinaI called the hotline, and another angel answered. She's going to pick up little sparrow by 10 tomorrow---after she's finished her dawn downtown patrol for injured birds---and take him to the rehab where she works. I've filed the number for future ref! love and hugs, Kerry PS--Why does this always happenemergencies right before I fly to UK?! - Original Message - From: Nina To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 7:46 PM Subject: Re: o/t help--injured bird! Hey Kerry,Looking for rehabers in your area I came across "Chicago Bird Collision Monitors". These folks have organized to help migratory birds that become disoriented, crash into the glass buildings and become injured. If they can't help, I'm betting they'll have numbers for rehaber in your area. Their hotline number for folks that have found injured birds is: 773-988-1867. They also list Flint Creek Wildlife Rehab: 847-602-0628, and Willowbrook Wildlife Center: 630-942-6200. NinaKerry MacKenzie wrote: Help--does anyone have any advice on helping injured sparrow I just found on my porch? Should I take it to emergency services? I leave town tomorrow morning so have no way to look afterhim/her after that.
Re: Bella's Visit with a New Vet
Ashleigh,He sounds absolutely fabulous:) and it's great that she's so healthy. Keep up the good work!!!Ashleigh Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I took Bella to see a holistic veterinarian today to discuss FeLV treatments. I liked him immediately, and he was very knowledgable about the importance of a good diet. (Every other vet. I've ever been to hawks corn-based foods in their office as the best choice, but this guy has analyzed ingredients in other foods and recommends those to his customers, and he's not making a profit on them either.)He examined Bella thoroughly, and she's the picture of health except for the slightly positive FeLV test last weekend. Since she's so healthy right now, he thinks she has a good chance of fighting off the virus herself. (He said 1/3 of the cats do this, and most of them are fed things like Meow Mix. Bella is at an advantage since I've fed her California Naturals since kittenhood.) He thinks we should try to keep her as healthy as possible so that she can fight this virus. He was already familiar with Dr. Belfield's work and has tremendous respect for him. He told me that people thought Belfield was nuts a long time ago, but that Belfield's beliefs long ago are now being proven to be true. He advised me to get the Mega C powder, to add a good B complex vitamin (and he likes Belfield's), and to use an Omega fatty acid supplement. (I bought one in his office.) He also mentioned that antioxidants couldn't hurt either. He also said that vitamin D is crucial to having a good immune system (as are the other vitamins mentioned). Currently, we keep my daughter's blinds pulled up during the day, and Bella loves to lie in the sunlight. He says that that is very healthy.He wasn't very gung-ho on interferon and said he's not convinced that it helps. He says that it is human-made and that its use, in his opinion,is not totally risk-free. He said that it could possibly make things worse. (He did say that he would be happy to get it for me if I still wanted it, but he also told me that if Bella were his cat, he would not.) He felt like it was safest to let her well-nourished body work against the virus. That's what we're going to do for now, since she is extremely healthy--much more so than typical cats, according to him (mainly due to her good diet).I just ordered Dr. Belfield's Mega C and Vitamin B complex and am eagerly awaiting its arrival. I'll keep everyone posted on her progress.~AshleighP.S. Cat foods that he really likes are Nutro Natural Choice Lamb Rice(NOT Max), Dick Van Patten's Natural Balance, I.V.D., California Naturals, and Felidae. He said that he's seen animals who were totally unresponsive to traditional treatments do a complete 180 when they are put on a good diet. Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2�/min or less.Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates.
Re: o/t help--injured bird!
What amazing people! Pam - Original Message - From: Kerry MacKenzie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 6:40 PM Subject: Re: o/t help--injured bird! You're an angel NinaI called the hotline, and another angel answered. She's going to pick up little sparrow by 10 tomorrow---after she's finished her dawn downtown patrol for injured birds---and take him to the rehab where she works. I've filed the number for future ref! love and hugs, Kerry PS--Why does this always happenemergencies right before I fly to UK?! - Original Message - From: Nina To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 7:46 PM Subject: Re: o/t help--injured bird! Hey Kerry,Looking for rehabers in your area I came across "Chicago Bird Collision Monitors". These folks have organized to help migratory birds that become disoriented, crash into the glass buildings and become injured. If they can't help, I'm betting they'll have numbers for rehaber in your area. Their hotline number for folks that have found injured birds is: 773-988-1867. They also list Flint Creek Wildlife Rehab: 847-602-0628, and Willowbrook Wildlife Center: 630-942-6200. NinaKerry MacKenzie wrote: Help--does anyone have any advice on helping injured sparrow I just found on my porch? Should I take it to emergency services? I leave town tomorrow morning so have no way to look afterhim/her after that.
Rachel's ramble
Oh honey, go ahead and ramble away! It sounds like you've got you're hands full fighting the good fight. Who are you going to vent to except those of us that care just as deeply? I'm sorry about the little felv+ that didn't make it and pleased to hear about the one that seems to be bouncing back despite the odds. You must be one great cat caregiver! That poor feral Momma may not be positive. Life on the street, as I'm sure you know, can be so hard on these little angels. Unfortunately sickly kittens are not that unusual under the circumstances, and so many, even healthy seeming kittens born on the street, don't make it through their first year. That poor Momma must be so worn out! Keep good thoughts, I'll be sending prayers and good thoughts your way as well. Let us know if you find her kittens and when you finally catch her. Bless you for all you do, Nina Rachel Martineau wrote: I'm in Dayton, OH. Two of the adults are asymptomatic and healthy as can be. One was a light positive so I'm praying that a retest will be negative. I originally pulled two adults, one who is still with me and recovering from a ton of infections and slowing improving. Sadly the other little guy had a ruptured bladder and it was too late for him. All of these cats came from the same home, where there were other cats that tested negative. There is another female on the property who recently had a litter (3 weeks) in a garage. She is a purely feral though and I can't locate the kittens. The garage is a maze and I don't want to trap her yet in case I can't find the babies. From what I've been told, she is has been around for at least 6 years and had litter upon litter, most who die or that look miserable. She herself looks terrible and I have a sick feeling she is positive as well. Sorry to ramble, but thank you for asking. ~ Rachel Operation Foster Felix www.operationfosterfelix.org Sharing Our Hearts, Homes Litter Boxes "If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief Dan George On 5/13/06, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /where are you Rachel? t [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Awww Tad, BLESS YOU!!! I wish there were more people out there like you! I have 3 adult FeLV+ and a whole litter of 8 week old kittens in rescue that need homes. Sometimes it seems like an impossible feat to find them homes, but seeing messages like this make my day. Purrs and headbutts from the whole clan here! ~ Rachel Operation Foster Felix www.operationfosterfelix.org Sharing Our Hearts, Homes Litter Boxes "If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief Dan George - Original Message - From: Chris To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 1:16 PM Subject: RE: URGENT-Bert needs HELP!! Tad-you're amazing. Not only would Switters love it—the old guys would probably love for him to have somebody else to play with—I'm sure they'd be happy refereeing and watching! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tad Burnett Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 1:07 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: URGENT-Bert needs HELP!! I bet Switters would like a young boy.. Switters is almost a year old and super active... Don't let him be euthanized... If no one else will take him and he can get to Vermont we can make space here... Tad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will find out location soon. This was a forward from another rescue group. Can anyone help this kitty? From: Becky McCaffery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:48 PM To: Susan Linker; Sarkosi,Diana A; Pet Protectors Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: URGENT-Bert needs HELP!! Bert is a very sweet FeLV+ kitty who is almost a year old. He is scheduled to be euthanized soon-he needs help ASAP!! He has been looking for a home since he was two months old. Here is his story: PLEASE HELP BERT!!! HE IS
Re: Adoptions (was OT: heartbroken)
Thanks for the tips Susan! What you say about our little refugees lives being better in the right forever home makes perfect sense. I've had nightmare placements that haven't worked out, (even though I work very hard and drive people crazy with my persistence to make the right matches), and I've had dream placements that I'm forever grateful for. It used to be that I felt like no one was going to give them as good a home as I could. That's changed. My home isn't the safe haven it once was. Dogs come to me as well as cats and the numbers become overwhelming very fast when you're dealing with canines! Anyway, I just wanted to thank you for taking the time to share some practical ways to look for homes. Keep up the good work, the world needs you. Nina Susan Hoffman wrote: NOT the shelter. You have to be committed to finding good forever homes. Adoptions are hard work. I understand the temptation to just close up shop and keep the ones you have but if you do that there comes a point when you have to stop taking in anyone new. And there are too many out there whose lives depend on getting into a foster/rescue situation. I don't do caged petstore adoptions. The cats do not show well unnder those conditions and it just isn't an efficient use of time. Here's what I do: 1. Craigslist.org -- Everyone -- kittens, seniors, special needs -- gets listed on craigslist. There are craigslist boards across the country. Some are more active than others. I'm in the San Francisco area with a very active craigslist and I do most of my adoptions through craigslist. (Also recruit foster homes via craigslist.) Listing is free. Take great photos. 2. Pennysaver and other newspapers -- I'm looking at the Pennysaver newspaper for cats in foster homes in the Sacramento area. That craigslist is less active. A friend in the Los Angeles area has great success with adoptions via the Pennysaver so I'm thinking about using it in Sacramento too. 3. Network -- This is especially helpful with harder-to-place cats. (a) A friend who works at a medical university is posting my epileptic kitten there for adoption. I figure the right home for Connie will be someone who is epileptic or who has an epileptic family member or perhaps has had a dog that is of a breed prone to epilepsy. It will be someone who understands how easily controllable this is. (b) This same friend has an FIV+ foster cat and we are looking for a home together for that cat and an FIV+ Siamese mix who is coming my way. (c) Another friend helped me place a senior 12+ year old Himi last year with a retired couple that she knew. 4. Get creative -- Senior cats are a good fit for seniors and retirees, a population less likely to be online. Find the pet-friendly retirement communities in your area and see if they have a bulletin board where you can list senior cats. Again, take great photos. 5. Online resources -- My FeLV+ girl is now listed online at a couple of places that feature special needs cats. (http://tinyurl.com/o553l) And I'm networkingandgetting creative. She's going to be one of the harder to adopt simply because of the stigma still attached to FeLV. 6. Foster homes -- I've cultivated a few foster homes because that way (a) I can take more cats and (b) I can separate out populations. Tiny kittens have no business in my house -- I've seen too much uri and ringwork over the past couple of years -- so they go elsewhere. The FeLV+ girl is in an only-cat foster home. I have another foster home that gets one or two adults who donn't do well in multi-cat situations. I take the ones who have health or socialization issues at my house. Foster homes allow me to take in more animals and to take certain risks that I could not take if all the cats had to come to my house. The cats are better cared for and get more individualized attention this way. I have to do adoptions. If I don't do adoptions I can't do rescue. I spend my weeks screening potential adopters, clean the house on Saturday, and have approved adopters come primarily on Sunday, though sometimes I can have someone come in the evening during the week if the house is clean enough. (And, yes, I do have a fulltime job and a social/romantic life. I also have a long-suffering roommate who is a bigger softie than me and he helps with these guys.) So, please, reconsider on keeping them all yourself. There are people who will adopt many of those cats. You just have to rethink your approach to adoptions so you can find those people. As you get cats adopted out you make room to take in others. And a good adoptive home with one or two or three cats in residence and with financial and other resources not stretched so thin is really a better lifetime environment for an animal. They get over me awfully fast when I find them the right forever home. And that is as it should be.
Re: Adoptions (was OT: heartbroken)
Thanks. Adoptions are hard work. I call in-home adoptions cocktails parties without the cocktails. I feel like I'm constantlyreceiving visitors at a time when I would like to curl up with a good book and maybe take a nap. And I am picky, do a lot of screening. The process requires daily effort. There are a lot of times when I think it would just be easier to stop dealing with adoptions and just keep the ones who are here. But I know there are a lot of cats I could not take in if I did that. (Could not do it with dogs. One week with one puppy last year cured me of any thought of having a dog. And started me on the way to ripping up carpets and innstalling laminate flooring.)Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the tips Susan! What you say about our little refugees lives being better in the right forever home makes perfect sense. I've had nightmare placements that haven't worked out, (even though I work very hard and drive people crazy with my persistence to make the right matches), and I've had dream placements that I'm forever grateful for. It used to be that I felt like no one was going to give them as good a home as I could. That's changed. My home isn't the safe haven it once was. Dogs come to me as well as cats and the numbers become overwhelming very fast when you're dealing with canines! Anyway, I just wanted to thank you for taking the time to share some practical ways to look for homes. Keep up the good work, the world needs you. NinaSusan Hoffman wrote:NOT the shelter. You have to be committed to finding good forever homes. Adoptions are hard work. I understand the temptation to just close up shop and keep the ones you have but if you do that there comes a point when you have to stop taking in anyone new. And there are too many out there whose lives depend on getting into a foster/rescue situation.I don't do caged petstore adoptions. The cats do not show well unnder those conditions and it just isn't an efficient use of time. Here's what I do:1. Craigslist.org -- Everyone -- kittens, seniors, special needs -- gets listed on craigslist. There are craigslist boards across the country. Some are more active than others. I'm in the San Francisco area with a very active craigslist and I do most of my adoptions through craigslist. (Also recruit foster homes via craigslist.) Listing is free. Take great photos.2. Pennysaver and other newspapers -- I'm looking at the Pennysaver newspaper for cats in foster homes in the Sacramento area. That craigslist is less active. A friend in the Los Angeles area has great success with adoptions via the Pennysaver so I'm thinking about using it in Sacramento too.3. Network -- This is especially helpful with harder-to-place cats. (a) A friend who works at a medical university is posting my epileptic kitten there for adoption. I figure the right home for Connie will be someone who is epileptic or who has an epileptic family member or perhaps has had a dog that is of a breed prone to epilepsy. It will be someone who understands how easily controllable this is. (b) This same friend has an FIV+ foster cat and we are looking for a home together for that cat and an FIV+ Siamese mix who is coming my way. (c) Another friend helped me place a senior 12+ year old Himi last year with a retired couple that she knew. 4. Get creative -- Senior cats are a good fit for seniors and retirees, a population less likely to be online. Find the pet-friendly retirement communities in your area and see if they have a bulletin board where you can list senior cats. Again, take great photos.5. Online resources -- My FeLV+ girl is now listed online at a couple of places that feature special needs cats. (http://tinyurl.com/o553l) And I'm networkingandgetting creative. She's going to be one of the harder to adopt simply because of the stigma still attached to FeLV.6. Foster homes -- I've cultivated a few foster homes because that way (a) I can take more cats and (b) I can separate out populations. Tiny kittens have no business in my house -- I've seen too much uri and ringwork over the past couple of years -- so they go elsewhere. The FeLV+ girl is in an only-cat foster home. I have another foster home that gets one or two adults who donn't do well in multi-cat situations. I take the ones who have health or socialization issues at my house. Foster homes allow me to take in more animals and to take certain risks that I could not take if all the cats had to come to my house. The cats are better cared for and get more individualized attention this way. I have to do adoptions. If I don't do adoptions I can't do rescue. I spend my weeks screening potential adopters, clean the house on Saturday, and have approved adopters come primarily on Sunday, though sometimes I can have someone come in the evening during the week if the house is clean enough. (And, yes, I do have a fulltime job and a social/romantic life. I also have a long-suffering roommate who is a
Ordering Immuno-Regulin
Deanne, I'm pretty sure I ordered it from Revival. http://www.revivalanimal.com/product.asp?pn=31-020 It's been a while now, so I can't remember what I paid for it. Do a Google for it on the web and I'm sure you'll come up with other places as well. As Cindy mentioned, it's also called Equistim. Nina ACALA PET ISSUES wrote: Hi Nina, I'm paying $10 a dose for IR from my vet Do you remember where you got yours and what it cost? I friend of mine wants to start some of her felv+ kitties on IR and is fairly certain that she can get it from one of the vets that her rescue group works with, but I'd like to know where else we might be able to get it. Thanks, Deanne
Re: Adoptions (was OT: heartbroken)
Susan, I've never done the Petsmart/Petco adoption day things, (except as a volunteer for a rescue group). I'd never put my guys through it, and NONE of my angels-at-home-scared-to-death-demons-away would show well at something like that. I had to laugh about your housecleaning chores before people show up. My house is such a wreck most of the time. The litter boxes are clean, but the bathroom is another story! I've got all those barking dogs to contend with too. You're right, there's nothing easy about rescue, (adoption is the hardest part for me). I prayed to the universe to please send forever homes directly after rescues, but apparently no one is listening :) . It sounds like you could have used my help with that puppy last year! Don't give up on dogs just yet. You should think about taking in a geriatric that has found themselves homeless through no fault of his own. Sorry, I can't help myself. You should see me on the street. I've been known to force my phone number on people who seem like good home candidates and have unwittingly engaged in conversations about their pets with me! N Susan Hoffman wrote: Thanks. Adoptions are hard work. I call in-home adoptions cocktails parties without the cocktails. I feel like I'm constantly receiving visitors at a time when I would like to curl up with a good book and maybe take a nap. And I am picky, do a lot of screening. The process requires daily effort. There are a lot of times when I think it would just be easier to stop dealing with adoptions and just keep the ones who are here. But I know there are a lot of cats I could not take in if I did that. (Could not do it with dogs. One week with one puppy last year cured me of any thought of having a dog. And started me on the way to ripping up carpets and innstalling laminate flooring.)
Re: Bella's Visit with a New Vet
Vets get a % of the food cost and it is what they feed cats while they are in school to become Vets. It is total garbage my Vets thank god don't suggest it.They said when their in Veterinary School it is what all cats are fed. It's free There are other reasons of why when I remember I will let you all know. (very tired and my brainfarts are in the way) In a message dated 5/13/2006 6:23:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You know, it really makes me downright angry to think of how much the traditional vets are doing a disservice to their patients by hawking Hill's products. I cannot recall the source at all, but I remember reading something about them getting some sort of benefit from the company for selling their food. (Hmmm, sounds a bit like people docs promoting the drugs of whichever rep. just sent them on a fishing trip, doesn't it?) For years, I fed Fred (my cat who dies of vaccine-associated fibrosarcoma) Hill's Science Diet. My vet recommended it as the best, and I happily spent the bucks on my kitty. I truly believe that people are actually being swindled when an animal "expert" recommends an expensive, unhealthy cat food. (Can you tell I feel strongly about this?) It was only because of information given to me by Bella's breeder that I started to really look at cat food ingredients. Thank goodness she was more enlightened than the local vets. Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverCheck sites for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttps://www.paypal.com/http://www.frappr.com/wasiameserescue
Re: Mixing FeLv non FeLv
With my herd I have never had a negative turn positve. I'm not saying it wouldn't happen to others. Taz was positive and lived with my 3 remaining older cats for a few years beforehe died. To this day none test positve. They played, ate, and washed each other. In a message dated 5/13/2006 6:39:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is good. I'm glad you posted it. Pam - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 4:56 AM Subject: Re: Mixing FeLv non FeLv This was how I got started. I had 12 cats total. The positive (I didn't know was positive) was about 8 weeks old and her 'best friend' was a negative about the same age. They were together at least a month, probably closer to 2. I found out she was positive, tested, retested, retested everyone. She stayed positive and lived to 6 or 7 years old. Everyone else who is still with me is still negative. The ones I've lost died from various reasons, kidney disease, stroke, etc... ALL were retested the rest of the time only when they got ill. NONE ever tested positive. I still have the 'littermate/friend' who was a kitten when exposed to my positive years ago. He is still negative. t Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverCheck sites for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttps://www.paypal.com/http://www.frappr.com/wasiameserescue
Re: Please add Papoose to CLS - Jeni
Jeni, I can understand your pain at losing Papoose. I am sending you healing thoughts and prayers Karen in California and her "Angel Ms. Clyde"
