Re: ot - Ever ubiquitous pee

[Gina WN]

ROTF!!!
   
  Gina

Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  From watching crime dramas on tv, I've learned that coffee grounds are 
used to disguise the scent from drug sniffing dogs. Excuse me while I 
go throw a pound of coffee in my dryer :-) .

Taylor Scobie Humphrey wrote:
> Something just dawned on me. You know how Nordie's has those little 
> containers of coffee beans to sniff between testing perfumes? I used 
> to manage a coffee store and I always smelled like fresh coffee. 
> People in check-out lines would ask me what the wonderful coffee was 
> in my basket--and there was none! Maybe little sachets of ground 
> coffee in our pockets would work. !?
>
> Taylor Scobie Humphrey
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> On May 21, 2007, at 12:52 PM, Nina wrote:
>
>> I wonder if there have been any studies conducted on deterioration 
>> effects of the olfactory senses from living with too many cats. My 
>> sniffer isn't what it used to be either. Perhaps it's a blessing in 
>> disguise, but it does little for our social lives. I've had people 
>> in check out lines ask me about my pets. I'll quick sniff at my 
>> clothing but so far it's been more the tell tale dog and cat hair and 
>> not problem odors. I have little chance of getting away with a 
>> spontaneous murder. I carry way too much traceable dna with me 
>> wherever I go.
>> N
>>
>> Kelley Saveika wrote:
>>> At least you can smell it. I can't smell it anymore:(
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Re: OT- Cat bite, what do i do

[Taylor Scobie Humphrey]

Salt has natural antibiotic properties.  That's why gargling with  
salt water is so good for a sore throat.  I prefer to go to the ocean  
and soak my entire self, actually!


Taylor Scobie Humphrey
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On May 25, 2007, at 12:24 PM, elizabeth trent wrote:

Soak it in hot salt water.  Please be really careful with this.   
Don't want to frighten you but a friend of mine lost a finger due  
to a cat bite.


elizabeth

On 5/25/07, Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I was trying to put Nod in his carrier for his dental today and
apparently he didn't want to go.  It isn't a terrible bite, but it did
break the skin. He is current on his rabies.  Do I wait and hope it
doesn't become infected?

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Re: Update on Kisa

[Taylor Scobie Humphrey]

Belinda, I agree, I agree, I agree!

Taylor Scobie Humphrey
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On May 25, 2007, at 9:48 AM, Belinda wrote:

PSS.  Chemo generally doesn't cost "thousands", only confirms your  
vet doesn't know enough about treating cancer.  I've had 3 cats  
with cancer, the most expensive treatment protocol was about  
$1500.00, this included everything and my vet is on the expensive  
side.


I just hate it when vets give doom and gloom prognosis's, I've seen  
way too many cats live way beyond the vets prognosis on the  
lymphoma list.  Most general vets don't know enough about cancer or  
treating it to be saying things like that.


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Re: OT- Cat bite, what do i do

[Taylor Scobie Humphrey]

Oh, Susan tres bien!
Taylor Scobie Humphrey
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On May 25, 2007, at 9:40 AM, Susan Hoffman wrote:

Good long-term advice.  Also, FYI, Augmentin is the same as  
clavamox so if you have any clavamox around for the cats, you can  
take that yourself.  (I usually buy the clavamox tablets or unmixed  
powder from www.1drugstore-online.com so I usually do have some in  
the house.)


Now, the next time you're bitten -- immediately cwash the wound  
under running water and squeeze out some blood.  That squeezes out  
stuff that might have been on the teeth and is now under your skin  
too.  Then pour on or submerge your hand in alcohol or peroxide.   
(Got this advice from my mother.  It's worked for both of us for  
decades.)


I hope Nod shows signs of guilt.  When my own personal cats have  
bitten me, they usually get this really guilty look on their faces  
and want to make up later.  (You can enhance those feelings of  
guilt by pretending to lick your "paw" and whimpering a bit while  
shooting accusatory looks their way.)


Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
DeDe, this is great advice. I was put onAugmentin last fall for a cat
bite, a nip really, & my immune system was down from stress, &  
ended up

with Cdiff (clostridium difficile).The Augmentin erased all the good
flora in my GI tract. It was awful. I lost 30 pounds in 2 months & am
still trying to deal with it. So next cat bite I will do what you
suggest & not take antibiotics unless I really have to.

Pam

dede hicken wrote:
> OK, this is something I know about! Don't wait to see
> if it gets infected. You need to take care of it.
> Wash it really well. Go get some phisohex (sp) scrub
> at your pharmacy. It is usually behind the counter.
> Ask for it. Soak it in betadine a couple times a day
> after you have scrubbed it. Bites are funny. My most
> serious ones healed well, and the little one on my
> finger sent red lines and blotches up my arm! My vet
> sold me a bottle of GentaVed which is a topical
> antibiotic for dogs. Boy, does that stuff work!!! I
> usr it all the time now for serious wounds and any
> bite.
>
> BTW, if you see ANY signs of infection, go get
> antibiotics, and get your tetanus UTD. Oh, and make
> sure Nod doesn't get sick, either LOL.
>
> Dede
> --- Kelley Saveika wrote:
>
>
>> I was trying to put Nod in his carrier for his
>> dental today and
>> apparently he didn't want to go. It isn't a
>> terrible bite, but it did
>> break the skin. He is current on his rabies. Do I
>> wait and hope it
>> doesn't become infected?
>>
>> --
>> Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
>>
>> http://www.rescuties.org
>>
>> Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
>>
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>>
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>
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Re: Update on Kisa

[Taylor Scobie Humphrey]

MY cat is FeLV positive!  And he has lymphoma.  He had HUGE lymph  
nodes which literally blew up overnight.  And now he's on chemo.  The  
lymph nodes were literally GONE the day after his very first chemo.   
I was absolutely shocked!  And he's doing GREAT!  Fat and happy now,  
beautiful fur, eating and playing.  He is "in apparent remission."   
PLEASE see an oncologist!


I had the same reaction from one of the vets at my regular vet  
practice.  She said, oooh, FeLV+, not good BUT here is an oncologist  
if you want.  And I did.  And six weeks later here we are!



Taylor Scobie Humphrey
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On May 25, 2007, at 9:39 AM, Belinda wrote:

PS. And if it were the way my vet thought, they wouldn't be my vet  
anymore ...


The vet got back some blood test results, and says that it looks  
like cancer.  They can't know for sure without a biopsy, but they  
don't suggest doing that.


So really i'm left with not really knowing for sure what is going  
on.  They won't do chemo without a definite diagnosis for cancer.   
I'm not sure if I could afford that anyway...they didn't say  
exactly how much it would cost, but said it wouldn't be a good  
idea to spend thousands on FeLV+ cat with a poor prognosis.


--

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Re: Update on Kisa

[Taylor Scobie Humphrey]

It's not the vet's decision to make.  It is yours and Kisa's.  Go see  
an oncologist.


Please.

Taylor Scobie Humphrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On May 25, 2007, at 9:38 AM, Belinda wrote:


All I can say is thank god this isn't the way my vet thinks ...

The vet got back some blood test results, and says that it looks  
like cancer.  They can't know for sure without a biopsy, but they  
don't suggest doing that.


So really i'm left with not really knowing for sure what is going  
on.  They won't do chemo without a definite diagnosis for cancer.   
I'm not sure if I could afford that anyway...they didn't say  
exactly how much it would cost, but said it wouldn't be a good  
idea to spend thousands on FeLV+ cat with a poor prognosis.


--

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Re: OT- Cat bite, what do i do

[Taylor Scobie Humphrey]

Yes, you know, I should have said that I washed it really well for  
about fifteen minutes with antibac and then poured on the antibac  
solution.


Taylor Scobie Humphrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On May 25, 2007, at 9:08 AM, Pam Norman wrote:

DeDe, this is great advice. I was put onAugmentin last fall for a  
cat bite, a nip really, & my immune system was down from stress, &  
ended up with Cdiff (clostridium difficile).The Augmentin erased  
all the good flora in my GI tract. It was awful. I lost 30 pounds  
in 2  months & am still trying to deal with it. So next cat bite I  
will do what you suggest & not take antibiotics unless I really  
have to.


Pam

dede hicken wrote:

OK, this is something I know about!  Don't wait to see
if it gets infected.  You need to take care of it. Wash it really  
well.  Go get some phisohex (sp) scrub
at your pharmacy.  It is usually behind the counter. Ask for it.   
Soak it in betadine a couple times a day

after you have scrubbed it.  Bites are funny. My most
serious ones healed well, and the little one on my
finger sent red lines and blotches up my arm! My vet
sold me a bottle of GentaVed which is a topical
antibiotic for dogs.  Boy, does that stuff work!!!  I
usr it all the time now for serious wounds and any
bite.

BTW, if you see ANY signs of infection, go get
antibiotics, and get your tetanus UTD.  Oh, and make
sure Nod  doesn't get sick, either LOL.

Dede
--- Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I was trying to put Nod in his carrier for his
dental today and
apparently he didn't want to go.  It isn't a
terrible bite, but it did
break the skin. He is current on his rabies.  Do I
wait and hope it
doesn't become infected?

--
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http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

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Re: OT- Cat bite, what do i do

[Taylor Scobie Humphrey]

I was bitten by my dad's big black fluffy crabbycat Blackie several  
years ago and I just washed really well and everything was fine.   
Like yours it wasn't a really brutal bite and the only thing the vet  
said (and believe me--they are very concerned about bites!) was that  
IF I noticed red lines running from it head for the doctor.


And I was fine (so was Blackie, ha ha)!

What a great name, Nod!

Taylor Scobie Humphrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On May 25, 2007, at 7:17 AM, Kelley Saveika wrote:


I was trying to put Nod in his carrier for his dental today and
apparently he didn't want to go.  It isn't a terrible bite, but it did
break the skin. He is current on his rabies.  Do I wait and hope it
doesn't become infected?

--
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http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

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Re: Update on Kisa

[Pam Norman]

If you give her a can of A/D or of MaxCal per day,  depending on what 
she weighs, that would be ok.  But you don't have time anymore to build 
up to that, she needs it now if she is "yellowing." Your vet should know 
that!  Her liver is probably "having a hard time" because her body is 
not getting food!   Your vet should know that too!  The more time that 
passes with her not getting sufficient food into her, the more jaundiced 
& sicker she will become.  If she were my cat, I would treat the hepatic 
lipidosis - because that is what she has now! --- first & worry 
about the cancer later.


Pam

C & J wrote:
I believe the vet  said it was likely a lymphoma due to the 
lymphocytes being high in the blood.  And I am using prednisone right 
now.


I am syringe feeding her even though its terribly stressful on both 
her and me, but how do you tell the calorie amount in a food?  All I 
can see on the cans is a breakdown of the protein, fat etc.  Does fat 
= calories?


The vet said I shouldn't be giving her a food high in fat, that it 
would be too hard on her liver since its already having a hard time.


The vet gave me a cardiovascular food, that i'm supposed to add a bit 
of potassium and vegetable oil to, and blend up.


Cassandra
- Original Message - From: "Pam Norman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: Update on Kisa


Do they mean cancer or do they mean lymphoma?  Because if lymphoma, 
you can treat that with prednisone. It's not the drug of choice IF 
you are going to do chemo, but if you are not going to do chemo & it 
IS lymphoma, then pred would be an option.


But if she's not eating, she will weaken & die if she does not get 
hepatic lipidosis before that. In which case in her already weakened 
state there would be little hope. I'm sorry to be so blunt, but when 
a cat doesn't eat, things don't "work out."  And an FeLV cat is even 
more vulnerable.
If it's lymphoma as opposed to cancer somewhere, you might buy some 
time with pred. But if she doesn't get high caloric food into her 
(either AD or Eukanaba's MaxCal),  at least a can a day, she will not 
make it.


Pam

C & J wrote:

Thank you all for your suggestions.
 I went to the vet today and got some injectable chloropromazine.  
They said it should help with the vomiting, though it is also a 
sedative. Kisa still vomited this evening, about 3 hours after a 
syringe feeding, but hopefully they drug just needs more time to work.
 The vet got back some blood test results, and says that it looks 
like cancer.  They can't know for sure without a biopsy, but they 
don't suggest doing that.
 So really i'm left with not really knowing for sure what is going 
on. They won't do chemo without a definite diagnosis for cancer.  
I'm not sure if I could afford that anyway...they didn't say exactly 
how much it would cost, but said it wouldn't be a good idea to spend 
thousands on FeLV+ cat with a poor prognosis.
 Kisa is absolutely hating the syringe feedings.  She's all of 6-7 
pounds and it takes both my husband and I to hold her.  For a weak 
kitty she sure can put up a fight.  By the time we're done, she's 
got food all over herself, and us. I don't think she's going blind, 
because she takes off like a shot after the feeding.
 We allow her into our bedroom at night now...our bedroom is 
reserved for sick kitties only.  She really seemed to enjoy that, 
and even crawled under the covers and curled up to me purring.  I 
haven't seen her that happy in awhile.  But this mornign at 5:30 am, 
I woke up to a huge puddle of orange pee (filled with Bilirubin) 
right between us.  She didn't even try to use the litter box or even 
squat to pee.
 Well we were up after that trying to wash some of the bedding 
before going to work.
 It sure has been a long haul here, I can only hope somehow it will 
work out.

 Cassandra

- Original Message -
*From:* C & J 
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

*Sent:* Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:20 PM
*Subject:* Update on Kisa

Well, after going to the vet today, it's not looking good for Kisa.
 She has elevated bilirubin in her blood/urine, and elevated number
of lymphocytes.  Therefore they believe she has a liver disease,
possibly lymphosarcoma.
 The only way they can tell for sure what the problem is with her
liver is to do a biopsy which means surgery.They didn't
suggest doing this though because of the FeLV and her immune
system being compromised.
 They gave me prednisone and baytril for her, though i'm really not
sure how she'll handle keeping those down when she is vomiting so
easily.  They're hoping the steroid will make her feel a little
better and maybe regain some appetite.
 I've really got to try and get her to eat something, she hasn't
eaten since Saturday night now.
 I don't understand why this is all happening at once

Re: Update on Kisa

[Belinda]

Do any of them take Care Credit, $900.00 is way too much for a biopsy 
and feeding tube.  My vet is not cheap and a ultrasound and biopsy is 
about $350.00 a feeding tube is about $200.00.  Where do you live?


Care Credit is basically a credit card with little or no interest is 
it's paid off in a specified amount of time.


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Re: Update on Kisa

[Belinda]

  This is ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE:

She said that an FeLV+ cat will eventually die, within 3-5 years at 
most of contracting the virus.
*Bailey my FeLV+ was positive at 5 months of age* and retested for 3 
years in a row, always positive, he was *11 years old when he died* of 
pancreatic cancer, which my vet said was not related to his being 
positive, he just had the misforture of getting that kind of cancer.


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Re: Update on Kisa

[C & J]

One other question on the syringe feeding.  Should a cat get enough water from 
the watered down syringe food?

I don't know how to tell if a cat is dehydrated, but the membrane on her eye is 
showing a bit.  When she tries to drink, i'm not sure how much water she's 
actually getting.  She just won't lap up water normally anymore.  She digs and 
digs at the water until she's emptied the whole bowl onto the floor, then licks 
the sides of the bowl a bit.  Or she tries to lick the water out of the sink.

Even with the syringe feeding, I believe she is getting worse.  The jaundice is 
more noticeable now, I can see the yellow in her lip coloring.

Cassandra
  - Original Message - 
  From: C & J 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:20 PM
  Subject: Update on Kisa


  Well, after going to the vet today, it's not looking good for Kisa.

  She has elevated bilirubin in her blood/urine, and elevated number of 
lymphocytes.  Therefore they believe she has a liver disease, possibly 
lymphosarcoma.

  The only way they can tell for sure what the problem is with her liver is to 
do a biopsy which means surgery.They didn't suggest doing this though 
because of the FeLV and her immune system being compromised.

  They gave me prednisone and baytril for her, though i'm really not sure how 
she'll handle keeping those down when she is vomiting so easily.  They're 
hoping the steroid will make her feel a little better and maybe regain some 
appetite.

  I've really got to try and get her to eat something, she hasn't eaten since 
Saturday night now.

  I don't understand why this is all happening at once.  First I watched Tomi 
get sicker and sicker for nearly 2 months.  As soon as he started getting 
better, Koda got sick with kidney and liver failure, and died.  Now, barely a 
week later Kisa goes from being a super healthy and active cat to death's door. 
 I haven't even had enough time to get used to Koda being gone, now its another 
crisis situation.

  This is all after having nothing but healthy, happy, and active cats for 12 
years.

  I used to think how awful it would be if my house burned down while I was 
away and my 5 cats were inside.  What is happening now is almost worse than 
that since it is so prolonged and i'm beginning to wonder if something I am 
doing is causing all this (like feeding raw food).  I've always kept my cats 
indoors because I didn't want them to get run over by a car, etcbut they 
seem to be no safer indoors.

  Sorry for venting on you all, its just really starting to affect me, both 
emotionally and financially.

  Cassandra


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Re: Update on Kisa

[C & J]

Isn't Dex mainly the same thing as prednisone, only injectable?

- Original Message - 
From: "Nina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: Update on Kisa


Did you ask your vet about dex shots?  If he is ready to give up on Kisa 
and you are not, find yourself another vet.

Nina

C & J wrote:

Thank you all for your suggestions.
 I went to the vet today and got some injectable chloropromazine.  They 
said it should help with the vomiting, though it is also a sedative. Kisa 
still vomited this evening, about 3 hours after a syringe feeding, but 
hopefully they drug just needs more time to work.
 The vet got back some blood test results, and says that it looks like 
cancer.  They can't know for sure without a biopsy, but they don't 
suggest doing that.
 So really i'm left with not really knowing for sure what is going on. 
They won't do chemo without a definite diagnosis for cancer.  I'm not 
sure if I could afford that anyway...they didn't say exactly how much it 
would cost, but said it wouldn't be a good idea to spend thousands on 
FeLV+ cat with a poor prognosis.
 Kisa is absolutely hating the syringe feedings.  She's all of 6-7 pounds 
and it takes both my husband and I to hold her.  For a weak kitty she 
sure can put up a fight.  By the time we're done, she's got food all over 
herself, and us. I don't think she's going blind, because she takes off 
like a shot after the feeding.
 We allow her into our bedroom at night now...our bedroom is reserved for 
sick kitties only.  She really seemed to enjoy that, and even crawled 
under the covers and curled up to me purring.  I haven't seen her that 
happy in awhile.  But this mornign at 5:30 am, I woke up to a huge puddle 
of orange pee (filled with Bilirubin) right between us.  She didn't even 
try to use the litter box or even squat to pee.
 Well we were up after that trying to wash some of the bedding before 
going to work.
 It sure has been a long haul here, I can only hope somehow it will work 
out.

 Cassandra





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Re: Update on Kisa

[C & J]

I think my vet is just trying to be a realist.  She basically was saying, do 
you want to spend a ton of money and put her through the stress of general 
anesthesia, when she has a slim chance of surviving.  She said that an FeLV+ 
cat will eventually die, within 3-5 years at most of contracting the virus.

I don't know where else to go.  There are only 3 vet clinics where I live, and 
i've already tried two of them.  The vets all seem to have the same attitude, 
that we'll try what we can to save your sick FeLV+, but we don't advise 
spending a ton of money or putting them through alot of stress.  

By the sounds of it, i'm not even sure they offer chemo here...they were 
talking like I would have to go 4 hours away for that.

I don't know what to do.  I want to give my Kisa every chance I can, but I 
can't afford to spend so much.  The vet said it would be $900 just to put in a 
feeding tube and do a biopsy of the liver.  I've already spent close to $2000 
in the last 2 months on Tomi and Koda, and haven't even paid off all those 
bills yet.

It's just so frustrating and overwhelming.

Cassandra
  - Original Message - 
  From: Belinda 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 9:39 AM
  Subject: Re: Update on Kisa


  PS. And if it were the way my vet thought, they wouldn't be my vet anymore ...


The vet got back some blood test results, and says that it looks like 
cancer.  They can't know for sure without a biopsy, but they don't suggest 
doing that.

So really i'm left with not really knowing for sure what is going on.  They 
won't do chemo without a definite diagnosis for cancer.  I'm not sure if I 
could afford that anyway...they didn't say exactly how much it would cost, but 
said it wouldn't be a good idea to spend thousands on FeLV+ cat with a poor 
prognosis.


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Re: Update on Kisa

[C & J]

I believe the vet  said it was likely a lymphoma due to the lymphocytes 
being high in the blood.  And I am using prednisone right now.


I am syringe feeding her even though its terribly stressful on both her and 
me, but how do you tell the calorie amount in a food?  All I can see on the 
cans is a breakdown of the protein, fat etc.  Does fat = calories?


The vet said I shouldn't be giving her a food high in fat, that it would be 
too hard on her liver since its already having a hard time.


The vet gave me a cardiovascular food, that i'm supposed to add a bit of 
potassium and vegetable oil to, and blend up.


Cassandra
- Original Message - 
From: "Pam Norman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: Update on Kisa


Do they mean cancer or do they mean lymphoma?  Because if lymphoma, you 
can treat that with prednisone. It's not the drug of choice IF you are 
going to do chemo, but if you are not going to do chemo & it IS lymphoma, 
then pred would be an option.


But if she's not eating, she will weaken & die if she does not get hepatic 
lipidosis before that. In which case in her already weakened state there 
would be little hope. I'm sorry to be so blunt, but when a cat doesn't 
eat, things don't "work out."  And an FeLV cat is even more vulnerable.
If it's lymphoma as opposed to cancer somewhere, you might buy some time 
with pred. But if she doesn't get high caloric food into her (either AD or 
Eukanaba's MaxCal),  at least a can a day, she will not make it.


Pam

C & J wrote:

Thank you all for your suggestions.
 I went to the vet today and got some injectable chloropromazine.  They 
said it should help with the vomiting, though it is also a sedative. Kisa 
still vomited this evening, about 3 hours after a syringe feeding, but 
hopefully they drug just needs more time to work.
 The vet got back some blood test results, and says that it looks like 
cancer.  They can't know for sure without a biopsy, but they don't 
suggest doing that.
 So really i'm left with not really knowing for sure what is going on. 
They won't do chemo without a definite diagnosis for cancer.  I'm not 
sure if I could afford that anyway...they didn't say exactly how much it 
would cost, but said it wouldn't be a good idea to spend thousands on 
FeLV+ cat with a poor prognosis.
 Kisa is absolutely hating the syringe feedings.  She's all of 6-7 pounds 
and it takes both my husband and I to hold her.  For a weak kitty she 
sure can put up a fight.  By the time we're done, she's got food all over 
herself, and us. I don't think she's going blind, because she takes off 
like a shot after the feeding.
 We allow her into our bedroom at night now...our bedroom is reserved for 
sick kitties only.  She really seemed to enjoy that, and even crawled 
under the covers and curled up to me purring.  I haven't seen her that 
happy in awhile.  But this mornign at 5:30 am, I woke up to a huge puddle 
of orange pee (filled with Bilirubin) right between us.  She didn't even 
try to use the litter box or even squat to pee.
 Well we were up after that trying to wash some of the bedding before 
going to work.
 It sure has been a long haul here, I can only hope somehow it will work 
out.

 Cassandra

- Original Message -
*From:* C & J 
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

*Sent:* Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:20 PM
*Subject:* Update on Kisa

Well, after going to the vet today, it's not looking good for Kisa.
 She has elevated bilirubin in her blood/urine, and elevated number
of lymphocytes.  Therefore they believe she has a liver disease,
possibly lymphosarcoma.
 The only way they can tell for sure what the problem is with her
liver is to do a biopsy which means surgery.They didn't
suggest doing this though because of the FeLV and her immune
system being compromised.
 They gave me prednisone and baytril for her, though i'm really not
sure how she'll handle keeping those down when she is vomiting so
easily.  They're hoping the steroid will make her feel a little
better and maybe regain some appetite.
 I've really got to try and get her to eat something, she hasn't
eaten since Saturday night now.
 I don't understand why this is all happening at once.  First I
watched Tomi get sicker and sicker for nearly 2 months.  As soon
as he started getting better, Koda got sick with kidney and liver
failure, and died.  Now, barely a week later Kisa goes from being
a super healthy and active cat to death's door.  I haven't even
had enough time to get used to Koda being gone, now its another
crisis situation.
 This is all after having nothing but healthy, happy, and active
cats for 12 years.
 I used to think how awful it would be if my house burned down
while I was away and my 5 cats were inside.  What is happening now
is almost wor

Re: Update on Kisa

[Nina]

Did you ask your vet about dex shots?  If he is ready to give up on Kisa 
and you are not, find yourself another vet.

Nina

C & J wrote:

Thank you all for your suggestions.
 
I went to the vet today and got some injectable chloropromazine.  They 
said it should help with the vomiting, though it is also a sedative. 
 
Kisa still vomited this evening, about 3 hours after a syringe 
feeding, but hopefully they drug just needs more time to work.
 
The vet got back some blood test results, and says that it looks like 
cancer.  They can't know for sure without a biopsy, but they don't 
suggest doing that.
 
So really i'm left with not really knowing for sure what is going on.  
They won't do chemo without a definite diagnosis for cancer.  I'm not 
sure if I could afford that anyway...they didn't say exactly how much 
it would cost, but said it wouldn't be a good idea to spend thousands 
on FeLV+ cat with a poor prognosis.
 
Kisa is absolutely hating the syringe feedings.  She's all of 6-7 
pounds and it takes both my husband and I to hold her.  For a weak 
kitty she sure can put up a fight.  By the time we're done, she's got 
food all over herself, and us. 
 
I don't think she's going blind, because she takes off like a shot 
after the feeding.
 
We allow her into our bedroom at night now...our bedroom is reserved 
for sick kitties only.  She really seemed to enjoy that, and even 
crawled under the covers and curled up to me purring.  I haven't seen 
her that happy in awhile.  But this mornign at 5:30 am, I woke up to a 
huge puddle of orange pee (filled with Bilirubin) right between us.  
She didn't even try to use the litter box or even squat to pee.
 
Well we were up after that trying to wash some of the bedding before 
going to work.
 
It sure has been a long haul here, I can only hope somehow it will 
work out.
 
Cassandra

Re: OT- Cat bite, what do i do

[Nina]

It has been explained to me that the danger with cat bites comes when 
those sharp little canines deliver bacteria deep under the skin, the 
surface wound closes up and the infection has a nice warm safe place to 
fester.  From what you describe, it sounds like the wound isn't very 
deep, you probably don't have anything to worry about if you hit it with 
peroxide right afterwards.  The idea behind the warm salt water soak is 
to keep the wound from closing.  Someone with way more experience than 
her fare share with cat bites has told me, if it's red, don't worry too 
much, if it's swollen, don't worry to much, if it's hot, red and 
swollen, get yourself to the hospital.  It's good advice to keep 
yourself utd on your tetanus shot too.  Let us know if your finger falls 
off.

Nina

Kelley Saveika wrote:

I was trying to put Nod in his carrier for his dental today and
apparently he didn't want to go.  It isn't a terrible bite, but it did
break the skin. He is current on his rabies.  Do I wait and hope it
doesn't become infected?

Re: OT- Cat bite, what do i do

[elizabeth trent]

Soak it in hot salt water.  Please be really careful with this.  Don't want
to frighten you but a friend of mine lost a finger due to a cat bite.

elizabeth

On 5/25/07, Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I was trying to put Nod in his carrier for his dental today and
apparently he didn't want to go.  It isn't a terrible bite, but it did
break the skin. He is current on his rabies.  Do I wait and hope it
doesn't become infected?

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Re: Update on Kisa

[Belinda]

PSS.  Chemo generally doesn't cost "thousands", only confirms your vet 
doesn't know enough about treating cancer.  I've had 3 cats with cancer, 
the most expensive treatment protocol was about $1500.00, this included 
everything and my vet is on the expensive side.


I just hate it when vets give doom and gloom prognosis's, I've seen way 
too many cats live way beyond the vets prognosis on the lymphoma list.  
Most general vets don't know enough about cancer or treating it to be 
saying things like that.


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Re: Update on Kisa

[Belinda]

  I personally know 3 FeLV+ cats right now with cancer that are doing 
great, one in remission for about 3 years ...


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Re: OT- Cat bite, what do i do

[Susan Hoffman]

Good long-term advice.  Also, FYI, Augmentin is the same as clavamox so if you 
have any clavamox around for the cats, you can take that yourself.  (I usually 
buy the clavamox tablets or unmixed powder from www.1drugstore-online.com so I 
usually do have some in the house.)
   
  Now, the next time you're bitten -- immediately cwash the wound under running 
water and squeeze out some blood.  That squeezes out stuff that might have been 
on the teeth and is now under your skin too.  Then pour on or submerge your 
hand in alcohol or peroxide.  (Got this advice from my mother.  It's worked for 
both of us for decades.)
   
  I hope Nod shows signs of guilt.  When my own personal cats have bitten me, 
they usually get this really guilty look on their faces and want to make up 
later.  (You can enhance those feelings of guilt by pretending to lick your 
"paw" and whimpering a bit while shooting accusatory looks their way.)

Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  DeDe, this is great advice. I was put onAugmentin last fall for a cat 
bite, a nip really, & my immune system was down from stress, & ended up 
with Cdiff (clostridium difficile).The Augmentin erased all the good 
flora in my GI tract. It was awful. I lost 30 pounds in 2 months & am 
still trying to deal with it. So next cat bite I will do what you 
suggest & not take antibiotics unless I really have to.

Pam

dede hicken wrote:
> OK, this is something I know about! Don't wait to see
> if it gets infected. You need to take care of it. 
> Wash it really well. Go get some phisohex (sp) scrub
> at your pharmacy. It is usually behind the counter. 
> Ask for it. Soak it in betadine a couple times a day
> after you have scrubbed it. Bites are funny. My most
> serious ones healed well, and the little one on my
> finger sent red lines and blotches up my arm! My vet
> sold me a bottle of GentaVed which is a topical
> antibiotic for dogs. Boy, does that stuff work!!! I
> usr it all the time now for serious wounds and any
> bite.
>
> BTW, if you see ANY signs of infection, go get
> antibiotics, and get your tetanus UTD. Oh, and make
> sure Nod doesn't get sick, either LOL.
>
> Dede
> --- Kelley Saveika wrote:
>
> 
>> I was trying to put Nod in his carrier for his
>> dental today and
>> apparently he didn't want to go. It isn't a
>> terrible bite, but it did
>> break the skin. He is current on his rabies. Do I
>> wait and hope it
>> doesn't become infected?
>>
>> -- 
>> Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
>>
>> http://www.rescuties.org
>>
>> Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
>>
>> http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
>>
>> Please help Gandalf!
>>
>> http://www.firstgiving.com/gandalfkitty
>>
>> I GoodSearch for Rescuties.
>>
>> Raise money for your favorite charity or school just
>> by searching the
>> Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com -
>> powered by Yahoo!
>>
>>
>> 
>
>
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> service of your God"
> Mosiah 2:17
>
>
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Re: Update on Kisa

[Belinda]

PS. And if it were the way my vet thought, they wouldn't be my vet 
anymore ...


The vet got back some blood test results, and says that it looks like 
cancer.  They can't know for sure without a biopsy, but they don't 
suggest doing that.
 
So really i'm left with not really knowing for sure what is going on.  
They won't do chemo without a definite diagnosis for cancer.  I'm not 
sure if I could afford that anyway...they didn't say exactly how much 
it would cost, but said it wouldn't be a good idea to spend thousands 
on FeLV+ cat with a poor prognosis.


--

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Re: Update on Kisa

[Belinda]

All I can say is thank god this isn't the way my vet thinks ...

The vet got back some blood test results, and says that it looks like 
cancer.  They can't know for sure without a biopsy, but they don't 
suggest doing that.
 
So really i'm left with not really knowing for sure what is going on.  
They won't do chemo without a definite diagnosis for cancer.  I'm not 
sure if I could afford that anyway...they didn't say exactly how much 
it would cost, but said it wouldn't be a good idea to spend thousands 
on FeLV+ cat with a poor prognosis.


--

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Re: OT- Cat bite, what do i do

[Marylyn]

I wouldn't wait to deep clean it and pack it with Neosporin or some 
antibiotic cream.  You are the one who knows how deep it is and where he bit 
you.  I had a cat literally break the bone in my little finger and there 
were lots of problemsI was at the ER within 1/2 hour and it still 
got infected.  The hand surgeons had me on Doxycycline (sp??).  If you do 
wait please watch it carefully for any swelling or redness.  I have been 
nipped with broken skin numerous times and had no problem but the finger 
thing was a royal mess for almost 2 months and 2 surgeries.







If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: "Kelley Saveika" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "felvtalk" 
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 7:17 AM
Subject: OT- Cat bite, what do i do



I was trying to put Nod in his carrier for his dental today and
apparently he didn't want to go.  It isn't a terrible bite, but it did
break the skin. He is current on his rabies.  Do I wait and hope it
doesn't become infected?

--
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20

Please help Gandalf!

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I GoodSearch for Rescuties.

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Re: OT- Cat bite, what do i do

[Pam Norman]

DeDe, this is great advice. I was put onAugmentin last fall for a cat 
bite, a nip really, & my immune system was down from stress, & ended up 
with Cdiff (clostridium difficile).The Augmentin erased all the good 
flora in my GI tract. It was awful. I lost 30 pounds in 2  months & am 
still trying to deal with it. So next cat bite I will do what you 
suggest & not take antibiotics unless I really have to.


Pam

dede hicken wrote:

OK, this is something I know about!  Don't wait to see
if it gets infected.  You need to take care of it. 
Wash it really well.  Go get some phisohex (sp) scrub
at your pharmacy.  It is usually behind the counter. 
Ask for it.  Soak it in betadine a couple times a day

after you have scrubbed it.  Bites are funny. My most
serious ones healed well, and the little one on my
finger sent red lines and blotches up my arm! My vet
sold me a bottle of GentaVed which is a topical
antibiotic for dogs.  Boy, does that stuff work!!!  I
usr it all the time now for serious wounds and any
bite.

BTW, if you see ANY signs of infection, go get
antibiotics, and get your tetanus UTD.  Oh, and make
sure Nod  doesn't get sick, either LOL.

Dede
--- Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

I was trying to put Nod in his carrier for his
dental today and
apparently he didn't want to go.  It isn't a
terrible bite, but it did
break the skin. He is current on his rabies.  Do I
wait and hope it
doesn't become infected?

--
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20

Please help Gandalf!

http://www.firstgiving.com/gandalfkitty

I GoodSearch for Rescuties.

Raise money for your favorite charity or school just
by searching the
Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com -
powered by Yahoo!






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your God"
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Re: OT- Cat bite, what do i do

[Pam Norman]

The usual advice so to get to a doctor & get on antibiotics.  But be 
sure your immune system stays up & take probiotics while you are on the ab.


Pam

Kelley Saveika wrote:

I was trying to put Nod in his carrier for his dental today and
apparently he didn't want to go.  It isn't a terrible bite, but it did
break the skin. He is current on his rabies.  Do I wait and hope it
doesn't become infected?

Re: Update on Kisa

[Pam Norman]

Do they mean cancer or do they mean lymphoma?  Because if lymphoma, you 
can treat that with prednisone. It's not the drug of choice IF you are 
going to do chemo, but if you are not going to do chemo & it IS 
lymphoma, then pred would be an option.


But if she's not eating, she will weaken & die if she does not get 
hepatic lipidosis before that. In which case in her already weakened 
state there would be little hope. I'm sorry to be so blunt, but when a 
cat doesn't eat, things don't "work out."  And an FeLV cat is even more 
vulnerable. 

If it's lymphoma as opposed to cancer somewhere, you might buy some time 
with pred. But if she doesn't get high caloric food into her (either AD 
or Eukanaba's MaxCal),  at least a can a day, she will not make it.


Pam

C & J wrote:

Thank you all for your suggestions.
 
I went to the vet today and got some injectable chloropromazine.  They 
said it should help with the vomiting, though it is also a sedative. 
 
Kisa still vomited this evening, about 3 hours after a syringe 
feeding, but hopefully they drug just needs more time to work.
 
The vet got back some blood test results, and says that it looks like 
cancer.  They can't know for sure without a biopsy, but they don't 
suggest doing that.
 
So really i'm left with not really knowing for sure what is going on.  
They won't do chemo without a definite diagnosis for cancer.  I'm not 
sure if I could afford that anyway...they didn't say exactly how much 
it would cost, but said it wouldn't be a good idea to spend thousands 
on FeLV+ cat with a poor prognosis.
 
Kisa is absolutely hating the syringe feedings.  She's all of 6-7 
pounds and it takes both my husband and I to hold her.  For a weak 
kitty she sure can put up a fight.  By the time we're done, she's got 
food all over herself, and us. 
 
I don't think she's going blind, because she takes off like a shot 
after the feeding.
 
We allow her into our bedroom at night now...our bedroom is reserved 
for sick kitties only.  She really seemed to enjoy that, and even 
crawled under the covers and curled up to me purring.  I haven't seen 
her that happy in awhile.  But this mornign at 5:30 am, I woke up to a 
huge puddle of orange pee (filled with Bilirubin) right between us.  
She didn't even try to use the litter box or even squat to pee.
 
Well we were up after that trying to wash some of the bedding before 
going to work.
 
It sure has been a long haul here, I can only hope somehow it will 
work out.
 
Cassandra


- Original Message -
*From:* C & J 
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

*Sent:* Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:20 PM
*Subject:* Update on Kisa

Well, after going to the vet today, it's not looking good for Kisa.
 
She has elevated bilirubin in her blood/urine, and elevated number

of lymphocytes.  Therefore they believe she has a liver disease,
possibly lymphosarcoma.
 
The only way they can tell for sure what the problem is with her

liver is to do a biopsy which means surgery.They didn't
suggest doing this though because of the FeLV and her immune
system being compromised.
 
They gave me prednisone and baytril for her, though i'm really not

sure how she'll handle keeping those down when she is vomiting so
easily.  They're hoping the steroid will make her feel a little
better and maybe regain some appetite.
 
I've really got to try and get her to eat something, she hasn't

eaten since Saturday night now.
 
I don't understand why this is all happening at once.  First I

watched Tomi get sicker and sicker for nearly 2 months.  As soon
as he started getting better, Koda got sick with kidney and liver
failure, and died.  Now, barely a week later Kisa goes from being
a super healthy and active cat to death's door.  I haven't even
had enough time to get used to Koda being gone, now its another
crisis situation.
 
This is all after having nothing but healthy, happy, and active

cats for 12 years.
 
I used to think how awful it would be if my house burned down

while I was away and my 5 cats were inside.  What is happening now
is almost worse than that since it is so prolonged and i'm
beginning to wonder if something I am doing is causing all this
(like feeding raw food).  I've always kept my cats indoors because
I didn't want them to get run over by a car, etcbut they seem
to be no safer indoors.
 
Sorry for venting on you all, its just really starting to affect

me, both emotionally and financially.
 
Cassandra



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Re: OT- Cat bite, what do i do

[dede hicken]

OK, this is something I know about!  Don't wait to see
if it gets infected.  You need to take care of it. 
Wash it really well.  Go get some phisohex (sp) scrub
at your pharmacy.  It is usually behind the counter. 
Ask for it.  Soak it in betadine a couple times a day
after you have scrubbed it.  Bites are funny. My most
serious ones healed well, and the little one on my
finger sent red lines and blotches up my arm! My vet
sold me a bottle of GentaVed which is a topical
antibiotic for dogs.  Boy, does that stuff work!!!  I
usr it all the time now for serious wounds and any
bite.

BTW, if you see ANY signs of infection, go get
antibiotics, and get your tetanus UTD.  Oh, and make
sure Nod  doesn't get sick, either LOL.

Dede
--- Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I was trying to put Nod in his carrier for his
> dental today and
> apparently he didn't want to go.  It isn't a
> terrible bite, but it did
> break the skin. He is current on his rabies.  Do I
> wait and hope it
> doesn't become infected?
> 
> -- 
> Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
> 
> http://www.rescuties.org
> 
> Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
> 
> http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
> 
> Please help Gandalf!
> 
> http://www.firstgiving.com/gandalfkitty
> 
> I GoodSearch for Rescuties.
> 
> Raise money for your favorite charity or school just
> by searching the
> Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com -
> powered by Yahoo!
> 
> 


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OT- Cat bite, what do i do

[Kelley Saveika]

I was trying to put Nod in his carrier for his dental today and
apparently he didn't want to go.  It isn't a terrible bite, but it did
break the skin. He is current on his rabies.  Do I wait and hope it
doesn't become infected?

--
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