Re: OT - Phelix...and lessons learned.

[Marylyn]

Thoughts:  

Be careful of the windows that open from the top (double-hung).  They can come 
down (unexpectedly) further than you want and the furry crew will love that.  
(NOoo.I've never had any experience there).  Find a way to 
pin the window so it can come only so far.

Cedar chests and tables make wonderful window seats and so do items that extend 
the sills ( braces with boards attached) so the furry ones can sit 
peacefully  I insisted on sills in this house for the cats but 
cedar chests and tables work in the other house and supplement here.  I suspect 
I will find a hammock for Dixie sooner or later.  

Screens, such as came with the windows here, are useless.  I could sneeze from 
50 ft away and they would fall out (fire safety).  I plan on literally nailing 
them in.  I promise, there are more ways out of this house than any I have ever 
seen.  Plus a fire sprinkler system thanks to B & B Sprinkler in Louisville.  

Dixie has had a couple of terrifying (for me) walk abouts on the farm.  I am 
very cautious about any other ones she may have planned.  






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: Melissa Lind 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 8:40 AM
  Subject: RE: OT - Phelix...and lessons learned.


  Elizabeth,

   

  Funny-that's what we call it when the cats sit in the window-they're watching 
TV. I have a copy of Sibley's hanging out in the living room too! We have a 
bunch of feeders and the cats just love to watch the birdies all day.

   

  Our screens will be replaced this summer I think-but our cats really haven't 
scratched big holes in them-just little tiny marks. But, one of our rescues did 
get half way out a hole that he worked to enlarge. Our screens are incredibly 
flimsy. 

   

  Let us know what you decide with the windows!

   

  Melissa

   


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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of elizabeth trent
  Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 8:11 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: OT - Phelix...and lessons learned.

   

  It's very dangerous for the flies -- this I do know  Haha.

   

  They love their moths too, Melissa :0)  The treasured ancient llama sweater 
is a favorite 'get stuck' place here...along with curtains and the blankets 
hanging off the bed.

   

  I had a man here at the house yesterday looking over the outside of my house 
for repairs.  I'm replacing ALL the windows in my house.   Every one of my 
screens has holes put there by my dear fur family.  I asked him about getting 
windows that open from the top (or screens that aren't so flimsy I could push a 
hole in them with my fingernail).  He really didn't get it until I started 
pointing to the evidence ( i.e. -- big shredded holes).  I even asked if we 
could install the windows upside down!  (The windows have to be replaced for 
reasons other than my poor shredded screens...but I want this to be a 
consideration).  He's going to research the options for me and give me an 
itemized list of options in about a week.  I'm still thinking about what 
Phaewryn said about chicken wire over the windows...  

   

  I wish I had a big window seat in every window for the babies.  I think I 
have about 12-15 bird feeders of various types and a wonderful variety of 
birds.  I keep a copy of Sibley's handy  --- it's cat tv.  It gives them hours 
of entertainment. 

   

  elizabeth

   

  On 6/6/07, Melissa Lind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

  Ha Ha! I've never had a cat stuck to the carpet either-but frequently to the 
screen door. They panic a little when they see me come to rescue them off the 
screen since they know they're not supposed to be scratching at it anyway! 
Those flies are so tempting! Even though I have a few scratch marks on our 
screen door-we've got no flies in the house! (Is it dangerous for the cats to 
eat the flies?) 

   

  Melissa

   


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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 9:31 PM 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: OT - Phelix...and lessons learned.

   

  Your cats get STUCK to the carpet? Bizarre! I never trim claws here (I'm 
morally opposed to the idea) unless there's a medical necessity, and I can 
honestly say my cats have NEVER gotten stuck to the carpet. I have occasionally 
seen one get stuck on the side of the sofa while scratching it, but ev

Re: Thanks

[Marylyn]

There is a transfer factor Feline complete that my alternative vet uses on her 
cat and strongly recommends for her patients.  Dixie is on that. Just Born in 
another one you really need to consider.  Dixie takes it too.  It seems like 
such a natural way to boost her immune system.

I saw this on the [EMAIL PROTECTED]  (hope I spelled all of that right):

This product (Just Born + colostrum) has actually taken some of the redness and 
swelling of her 
gums down. She hasn't needed any prescription medicine for 2 months 
now. I am amazed. I don't think the LPGS will go away, but this is 
buying her precious time and making her more comfortable.

Please keep adding to the diet.  Dixie looks and acts so much healthier since 
she started eating lots of raw veggies with her (high) quality canned food and 
raw food.  I never thought I would see a cat love veggies.  Today it was 
(organic) carrots, spinach, broccoli, and green beans.  Tomorrow--who 
knows.  Something similar until I run out of one thing and add another.   






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sally Davis 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 8:27 PM
  Subject: Thanks


  Hi everyone, 

  I mostly read emails from the group. You folks are much better versed in 
treating this disease than I am. I am still learning what works for Junior . I 
would have never known about supplements that improve the quality of life for 
Junior. I still change things around a bit. Partially in response to what is 
going on at the time. I ran out of Junior's transfer factor and I wanted to try 
him on the Manopol. So I ordered from a different company. I ordered also 
Wellness Transfer factor and Salmon oil for his inflammation. Well apparent 
they were back ordered and Junior was not feeling quite so frisky. He was off 
the Transfer Factor plus for over a week. Now he did not relaspe but he was not 
feeling quite so well. I think is proof that the 4 life Transfer Factor Plus 
really was helping. 

  I started him back on the glaucoma drops to see if the eye swelling would go 
down. He is still on Matacam. I am hoping to get him off of it with the use of 
the Salmon oil. I am still interested in people's  experience with prednisone 
or prenisolone for treating inflammation in FeLV cats. 

  I want to take this time to thank everyone for being so supported. I still 
feel the pain of all you that have lost your babies. Last year was a horrible 
year for me, losing 4 cats. The rest of my cats remain healthy. I will only 
retest if one of them seems sick. They were all equally exposed to the virus in 
the beginning and fought it off. 

  Sally, Junior and the gang

Thanks

[Sally Davis]

Hi everyone,

I mostly read emails from the group. You folks are much better versed in
treating this disease than I am. I am still learning what works for Junior .
I would have never known about supplements that improve the quality of life
for Junior. I still change things around a bit. Partially in response to
what is going on at the time. I ran out of Junior's transfer factor and I
wanted to try him on the Manopol. So I ordered from a different company. I
ordered also Wellness Transfer factor and Salmon oil for his inflammation.
Well apparent they were back ordered and Junior was not feeling quite so
frisky. He was off the Transfer Factor plus for over a week. Now he did not
relaspe but he was not feeling quite so well. I think is proof that the 4
life Transfer Factor Plus really was helping.

I started him back on the glaucoma drops to see if the eye swelling would go
down. He is still on Matacam. I am hoping to get him off of it with the use
of the Salmon oil. I am still interested in people's  experience with
prednisone or prenisolone for treating inflammation in FeLV cats.

I want to take this time to thank everyone for being so supported. I still
feel the pain of all you that have lost your babies. Last year was a
horrible year for me, losing 4 cats. The rest of my cats remain healthy. I
will only retest if one of them seems sick. They were all equally exposed to
the virus in the beginning and fought it off.

Sally, Junior and the gang

RE: Regarding a freak accident to my hubby..it is long...sorry!

[catatonya]

Terrie,
   
  You and your husband will be in my prayers.
  tonya

Melissa Lind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Terrie,
   
  My thoughts and prayers will be with you and your family today and in the 
coming weeks. Sending good vibes your way…
   
  Melissa
   
  I also appreciated the information—I will tell my husband as well.
   
  
-
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 10:40 AM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: OT: Regarding a freak accident to my hubby..it is long...sorry!

   
(I want apologized if you have already seen this from other groups I'm on)

 

  Hello all, 

I wanted to make everyone aware or least be alert of what can happen when 
you get behind brush mowers whether it's up close or at a distance. 

It is very dangerous.

 

Yesterday, my husband was about 20 feet behind a tractor that had a brush 
mower on it which was operated by his friend. My husband was looking for items 
that may have been sticking out of the ground that the mower didn't get.

 

Anyway, a huge rock flew out from the mower and my husband said he seen it 
at the corner of his eye. By then it was too late. The rock hit him on his 
right arm below the elbow and broke his arm in two places. I had to call 911 
for help he was bleeding and going into shock. He was taken to the hospital and 
had x-rays done on him. The time was around noontime that this happened.

 

My Dr. was on call who is a orthopedic surgeon had to do emergency surgery 
on him. 

I have a lot of faith in him as he done my knee replacements and other bone 
surgeries.

One of the bones is shattered in my husband's arm and he said it look like 
a gunshot wound. He was taken into surgery about 5 pm was returned back to his 
room about 9:15 pm last night. 

The Dr. told me he was bad that he could lose his arm especially below the 
elbow. 

He has muscle and tissue damage. Many fragments of the bone was floating in 
his arm. 

Did what he could do for him at this point. 

Only time will tell.

 

Since, my husband is a Diabetic and has HEP C from tainted blood in the 
60's from a blood transfusion he is considered high risk. He has a tube in him 
that they call a Vacu this is to suck all the infection and excess blood from 
the area. He is also on two different IV lines for the loss of blood and for 
antibiotics. He is being monitored closely. 

I did noticed his blood pressure was high. 

So he will be in the hospital for at least some time.

He will be taken back into surgery tomorrow to check out more of the damage 
and try to repair more of his arm.

 

By the way my husband is right handed this is the arm that got injured.

 

Some of you already know he just had two recent right shoulder surgeries on 
the same arm. He was supposed to return back to work for light duty on the 19th 
of this month.

Believe it or not he was looking forward going back to work after being off 
for almost a year.

Now that this has happened I don't know what we are going to do.

 

Please pray and hope he doesn't lose part of his arm. 

That he makes full recovery.


 

Terrie Mohr-Forker

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Re: Please add Nookie to CLS

[Sherry DeHaan]

Jeni sorry for your loss of Nookie,thank you for taking care of her.
  Sherry

JENI RECA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Nookie passed on saturday night. She was a feral we took in a year ago, and 
though she hide quite a bit she was finally coming out and hanging out near 
us. She curled up into the little hiding place we made for her under the 
stairs and passed away peacefully.
Thank you for all the support
Jeni
Meer and Cree

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Re: CLS for Jet

[Sherry DeHaan]

Tad and Marie,my thoughts are with you in this sad time.Hugs to you both
  Sherry

Tad Burnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  My sweet black cat Jet just passed away just a few minutes ago 
June 12, 2007
She is the 5th of the 6 FeLV+ cats from Angel Wings... She has been here 
with me
for 2 years.. She is probably about 5 years old... She has been healthy 
all the time
she was here and enjoyed her life here with Marie and myself and all the 
other cats...
She has been especially close to my feral cat who was just starting to 
tame when jet
came here... Jet most often slept curled up next to me and that's where 
she was tonight
when I felt those now all to familiar little muscle contractions that 
signals when life has
left the body on this earth...
I knew her time was coming about a month ago when she started acting 
like an older
cat and slowed down sum but even tonight she was eating but she had been 
acting
quite weak today and only an hour before she passed was the 1st time 
that she wasn't
able to stand up and walk... I pulled her up close to me and she felt 
comfortable...

We all will miss our Jet Cat...
Tad and Marie.





   
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Re: OT: Regarding a freak accident to my hubby..it is long...sorry!

[Sherry DeHaan]

Wow!! Terrie that is horrible.Of course I will send good thoughts and prayers 
to him.
  Sherry

elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
This is terrible!  I'll be saying prayers for all of you and also that he 
makes a full recovery.  Please keep us posted.
   
  elizabeth

 
  On 6/13/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   (I want 
apologized if you have already seen this from other groups I'm on)
   
Hello all, 
  I wanted to make everyone aware or least be alert of what can happen when you 
get behind brush mowers whether it's up close or at a distance. 
  It is very dangerous.
   
  Yesterday, my husband was about 20 feet behind a tractor that had a brush 
mower on it which was operated by his friend. My husband was looking for items 
that may have been sticking out of the ground that the mower didn't get. 
   
  Anyway, a huge rock flew out from the mower and my husband said he seen it at 
the corner of his eye. By then it was too late. The rock hit him on his right 
arm below the elbow and broke his arm in two places. I had to call 911 for help 
he was bleeding and going into shock. He was taken to the hospital and had 
x-rays done on him. The time was around noontime that this happened. 
   
  My Dr. was on call who is a orthopedic surgeon had to do emergency surgery on 
him. 
  I have a lot of faith in him as he done my knee replacements and other bone 
surgeries.
  One of the bones is shattered in my husband's arm and he said it look like a 
gunshot wound. He was taken into surgery about 5 pm was returned back to his 
room about 9:15 pm last night. 
  The Dr. told me he was bad that he could lose his arm especially below the 
elbow. 
  He has muscle and tissue damage. Many fragments of the bone was floating in 
his arm. 
  Did what he could do for him at this point. 
  Only time will tell.
   
  Since, my husband is a Diabetic and has HEP C from tainted blood in the 60's 
from a blood transfusion he is considered high risk. He has a tube in him that 
they call a Vacu this is to suck all the infection and excess blood from the 
area. He is also on two different IV lines for the loss of blood and for 
antibiotics. He is being monitored closely. 
  I did noticed his blood pressure was high. 
  So he will be in the hospital for at least some time.
  He will be taken back into surgery tomorrow to check out more of the damage 
and try to repair more of his arm.
   
  By the way my husband is right handed this is the arm that got injured.
   
  Some of you already know he just had two recent right shoulder surgeries on 
the same arm. He was supposed to return back to work for light duty on the 19th 
of this month.
  Believe it or not he was looking forward going back to work after being off 
for almost a year.
  Now that this has happened I don't know what we are going to do.
   
  Please pray and hope he doesn't lose part of his arm. 
  That he makes full recovery.

   
  Terrie Mohr-Forker

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SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE
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Re: Please add Nookie to CLS

[catatonya]

Jeni,
   
  I'm so sorry.  I'm glad you took care of her.
   
  tonya

JENI RECA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Nookie passed on saturday night. She was a feral we took in a year ago, and 
though she hide quite a bit she was finally coming out and hanging out near 
us. She curled up into the little hiding place we made for her under the 
stairs and passed away peacefully.
Thank you for all the support
Jeni
Meer and Cree

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Re: CLS for Jet

[catatonya]

I'm so sorry.  She certainly had a wonderful loving home for the past 2 years.
   
  take care,
  t

Tad Burnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  My sweet black cat Jet just passed away just a few minutes ago 
June 12, 2007
She is the 5th of the 6 FeLV+ cats from Angel Wings... She has been here 
with me
for 2 years.. She is probably about 5 years old... She has been healthy 
all the time
she was here and enjoyed her life here with Marie and myself and all the 
other cats...
She has been especially close to my feral cat who was just starting to 
tame when jet
came here... Jet most often slept curled up next to me and that's where 
she was tonight
when I felt those now all to familiar little muscle contractions that 
signals when life has
left the body on this earth...
I knew her time was coming about a month ago when she started acting 
like an older
cat and slowed down sum but even tonight she was eating but she had been 
acting
quite weak today and only an hour before she passed was the 1st time 
that she wasn't
able to stand up and walk... I pulled her up close to me and she felt 
comfortable...

We all will miss our Jet Cat...
Tad and Marie.

Re: Kisa is gone :(

[catatonya]

Cassandra,
   
  I am so very sorry.  You did everything you could and Kisa died knowing how 
much you loved her.
   
  tonya

C & J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Kisa passed away this morning while I was at work, exactly one month 
after Koda.  My heart is broken, especially since I wasn't there with her at 
the end.
   
  I had prayed and hoped so much that she would continue to improve after she 
started eating again a week and a half ago.  I suppose it was just too much for 
her to overcome.  The anemia never really did improve much. Though her 
breathing was better, her skin was so pale.
   
  The last few days, her appetite faltered again, and she was getting weaker.  
I didn't think today would be the day she died, though i'm relieved she didn't 
have to go on suffering much longer.  I don't think she was in pain, and I 
sincerely hope she wasn't in pain at the end.  It was just so hard to see her 
so weak when she was as active and happy as a kitten 3 weeks ago.
   
  Kisa is going to be missed more than words can say.  She never quite saw her 
3rd birthday, but the time she spent with us will never be forgotten.  She was 
special in so many ways, I wouldn't even know where to start to list them all.  
Fearless, loving, gentle, playful, curious, and sweet are just a few of the 
words that describe her.  She's been sleeping on my pillow the last few nights, 
and i'm going to miss her warmth so much.
   
  If it ever stops raining, she will be buried next to Koda tonight.  I made a 
rock garden full of flowers on top of Koda's grave.  Now Kisa will join her 
there.
   
  Cassandra

Re: CLS for Jet

[elizabeth trent]

I'm so sorry, Tad.  My heart is with you.
elizabeth


On 6/12/07, Tad Burnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


My sweet black cat Jet just passed away just a few minutes ago
June 12, 2007
She is the 5th of the 6 FeLV+ cats from Angel Wings... She has been here
with me
for 2 years.. She is probably about 5 years old... She has been healthy
all the time
she was here and enjoyed her life here with Marie and myself and all the
other cats...
She has been especially close to my feral cat who was just starting to
tame when jet
came here... Jet most often slept curled up next to me and that's where
she was tonight
when I felt those now all to familiar little muscle contractions that
signals when life has
left the body on this earth...
I knew her time was coming about a month ago when she started acting
like an older
cat and slowed down sum but even tonight she was eating but she had been
acting
quite weak today and only an hour before she passed was the 1st time
that she wasn't
able to stand up and walk... I pulled her up close to me and she felt
comfortable...

We all will miss our Jet Cat...
Tad and Marie.

RE: Regarding a freak accident to my hubby..it is long...sorry!

[wendy]

Terrie,

What a crazy thing to happen!  Who would have known?! 
I am so sorry your hubby is in such bad shape.  I'm
praying he heals up quickly and effortlessly!

:)
Wendy

--- "Doljan, Joan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Terrie,
>  
> I am so sorry to read about your husband's accident.
> Here's hoping that
> he will make a full recovery soon.
>  
> Joan
> 
>   -Original Message-
>   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 11:40 AM
>   To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>   Subject: OT: Regarding a freak accident to my
> hubby..it is
> long...sorry!
>   
>   
>   
>   (I want apologized if you have already seen this
> from other
> groups I'm on)
>
>   
>   Hello all, 
>   I wanted to make everyone aware or least be alert
> of what can
> happen when you get behind brush mowers whether it's
> up close or at a
> distance. 
>   It is very dangerous.
>
>   Yesterday, my husband was about 20 feet behind a
> tractor that
> had a brush mower on it which was operated by his
> friend. My husband was
> looking for items that may have been sticking out of
> the ground that the
> mower didn't get.
>
>   Anyway, a huge rock flew out from the mower and my
> husband said
> he seen it at the corner of his eye. By then it was
> too late. The rock
> hit him on his right arm below the elbow and broke
> his arm in two
> places. I had to call 911 for help he was bleeding
> and going into shock.
> He was taken to the hospital and had x-rays done on
> him. The time was
> around noontime that this happened.
>
>   My Dr. was on call who is a orthopedic surgeon had
> to do
> emergency surgery on him. 
>   I have a lot of faith in him as he done my knee
> replacements and
> other bone surgeries.
>   One of the bones is shattered in my husband's arm
> and he said it
> look like a gunshot wound. He was taken into surgery
> about 5 pm was
> returned back to his room about 9:15 pm last night. 
>   The Dr. told me he was bad that he could lose his
> arm especially
> below the elbow. 
>   He has muscle and tissue damage. Many fragments of
> the bone was
> floating in his arm. 
>   Did what he could do for him at this point. 
>   Only time will tell.
>
>   Since, my husband is a Diabetic and has HEP C from
> tainted blood
> in the 60's from a blood transfusion he is
> considered high risk. He has
> a tube in him that they call a Vacu this is to suck
> all the infection
> and excess blood from the area. He is also on two
> different IV lines for
> the loss of blood and for antibiotics. He is being
> monitored closely. 
>   I did noticed his blood pressure was high. 
>   So he will be in the hospital for at least some
> time.
>   He will be taken back into surgery tomorrow to
> check out more of
> the damage and try to repair more of his arm.
>
>   By the way my husband is right handed this is the
> arm that got
> injured.
>
>   Some of you already know he just had two recent
> right shoulder
> surgeries on the same arm. He was supposed to return
> back to work for
> light duty on the 19th of this month.
>   Believe it or not he was looking forward going back
> to work
> after being off for almost a year.
>   Now that this has happened I don't know what we are
> going to do.
>
>   Please pray and hope he doesn't lose part of his
> arm. 
>   That he makes full recovery.
>
>   Terrie Mohr-Forker
>   
>   TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS
>   SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE
>   Donations accepted at:
>   https://www.paypal.com/
>   
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Re: hi, I am back to the list - need advise

[HIDEYO YAMAMOTO]

Hi, Melissa - I don't know for sure, but I don't think so.. she found him as a 
sort of stray boy and he already had a tumor when she first found him -- the 
tumor was called histiocytoma sacrcoma - she is my vet tech at my vet office-- 
I was going to give her my acemannan I used to use my doggy JoJo to see if it 
wil help him..
  - Original Message - 
  From: Melissa Lind 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 12:22 PM
  Subject: RE: hi, I am back to the list - need advise


  Hideyo,

   

  Unfortunately, I don't have any useful advice for your friend, but I was 
wondering: was the tumor on the leg caused from an injection? The risk of these 
is the reason I haven't vaccinated my youngest against FeLV. Just curious.

   

  Melissa

   


--

  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of HIDEYO YAMAMOTO
  Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 12:34 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: hi, I am back to the list - need advise

   

  Hi, everyone, I came back to the list..

  I have a friend whose kitty, Jack has been positive for Felk for a couple of 
years now.  He originally had a tumor (turned out to be a cancer) on his leg 
and and his leg was amputated at that time.  He has been doing really well -- 
recently, he seems to have developed a tumor behind his eyes and he seesms not 
feeling too well as he is hiding more.. we are thinking that the cancer has 
come back.

   

  I wanted to help Jack.. if you have any ideas on treatment that you tried 
with felk kitties with cancer, I would appreciate it very much.

   

  Hideyo

RE: hi, I am back to the list - need advise

[Melissa Lind]

Hideyo,

 

Unfortunately, I don't have any useful advice for your friend, but I was
wondering: was the tumor on the leg caused from an injection? The risk of
these is the reason I haven't vaccinated my youngest against FeLV. Just
curious.

 

Melissa

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of HIDEYO YAMAMOTO
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 12:34 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: hi, I am back to the list - need advise

 

Hi, everyone, I came back to the list..

I have a friend whose kitty, Jack has been positive for Felk for a couple of
years now.  He originally had a tumor (turned out to be a cancer) on his leg
and and his leg was amputated at that time.  He has been doing really well
-- recently, he seems to have developed a tumor behind his eyes and he
seesms not feeling too well as he is hiding more.. we are thinking that the
cancer has come back.

 

I wanted to help Jack.. if you have any ideas on treatment that you tried
with felk kitties with cancer, I would appreciate it very much.

 

Hideyo

Re: Please add Nookie to CLS

[elizabeth trent]

I am so sorry.

elizabeth


On 6/12/07, JENI RECA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Nookie passed on saturday night.  She was a feral we took in a year ago,
and
though she hide quite a bit she was finally coming out and hanging out
near
us.  She curled up into the little hiding place we made for her under the
stairs and passed away peacefully.
Thank you for all the support
Jeni
Meer and Cree

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hi, I am back to the list - need advise

[HIDEYO YAMAMOTO]

Hi, everyone, I came back to the list..
I have a friend whose kitty, Jack has been positive for Felk for a couple of 
years now.  He originally had a tumor (turned out to be a cancer) on his leg 
and and his leg was amputated at that time.  He has been doing really well -- 
recently, he seems to have developed a tumor behind his eyes and he seesms not 
feeling too well as he is hiding more.. we are thinking that the cancer has 
come back.

I wanted to help Jack.. if you have any ideas on treatment that you tried with 
felk kitties with cancer, I would appreciate it very much.

Hideyo

Re: OT: Regarding a freak accident to my hubby..it is long...sorry!

[elizabeth trent]

This is terrible!  I'll be saying prayers for all of you and also that he
makes a full recovery.  Please keep us posted.

elizabeth


On 6/13/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 *(I want apologized if you have already seen this from other groups I'm
on)*
**
* Hello all,
I wanted to make everyone aware or least be alert of what can happen when
you get behind brush mowers whether it's up close or at a distance.
It is very dangerous.

Yesterday, my husband was about 20 feet behind a tractor that had a brush
mower on it which was operated by his friend. My husband was looking for
items that may have been sticking out of the ground that the mower didn't
get.

Anyway, a huge rock flew out from the mower and my husband said he seen it
at the corner of his eye. By then it was too late. The rock hit him on his
right arm below the elbow and broke his arm in two places. I had to call 911
for help he was bleeding and going into shock. He was taken to the hospital
and had x-rays done on him. The time was around noontime that this happened.

My Dr. was on call who is a orthopedic surgeon had to do emergency surgery
on him.
I have a lot of faith in him as he done my knee replacements and other
bone surgeries.
One of the bones is shattered in my husband's arm and he said it look like
a gunshot wound. He was taken into surgery about 5 pm was returned back to
his room about 9:15 pm last night.
The Dr. told me he was bad that he could lose his arm especially below the
elbow.
He has muscle and tissue damage. Many fragments of the bone was floating
in his arm.
Did what he could do for him at this point.
Only time will tell.

Since, my husband is a Diabetic and has HEP C from tainted blood in the
60's from a blood transfusion he is considered high risk. He has a tube in
him that they call a Vacu this is to suck all the infection and excess blood
from the area. He is also on two different IV lines for the loss of blood
and for antibiotics. He is being monitored closely.
I did noticed his blood pressure was high.
So he will be in the hospital for at least some time.
He will be taken back into surgery tomorrow to check out more of the
damage and try to repair more of his arm.

By the way my husband is right handed this is the arm that got injured.

Some of you already know he just had two recent right shoulder surgeries
on the same arm. He was supposed to return back to work for light duty on
the 19th of this month.
Believe it or not he was looking forward going back to work after being
off for almost a year.
Now that this has happened I don't know what we are going to do.

Please pray and hope he doesn't lose part of his arm.
That he makes full recovery.
*

*Terrie Mohr-Forker

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Re: Kisa is gone :(

[wendy]

Cassandra,

I am so, so sorry that Kisa didn't pull through.  I
know you are disappointed and hurting right now.  It
is a good thing that she is not in anymore pain.  You
tried SO hard to save that little one.  Bless you for
taking the time to do all you could for her.  

I watched Animal Cops on Animal Planet last night and
this poor dog in NYC came in and his body temp. was 84
degrees; the vet said he didn't think an animal could
live with that low of a temp-he'd certainly never seen
it.  He had a horrible skin infection and a bacterial
infection and he was starving; he looked HORRIBLE. 
His owner never took him to the vet and wasn't feeding
him.  Luckily, someone called, and the animal control
police confiscated the dog.  The vet was able to save
him.  It was a miracle and the dog is beautiful now. 
He's a Cano Corso (sp?) from South America.  I thought
of you.  I thought of how much you were doing for Kisa
and it was the complete opposite of how this owner
neglected his dog.  People who love their animals like
you do should be given the medal of honor for all they
do for their pets.  Their furbabies who are unable to
help themselves.  They can't go to the store and buy
food for themselves.  They can't visit a doctor by
themselves.  But the loving people here on this site
and all over the world who care for their animals are
one of the things that makes the world bearable for
me.  I hope every single one of them is blessed in a
very special way.

I know your heart is broken.  I pray that it heals
quickly and that you are able to let the good memories
of Kisa comfort you while you heal.  She probably
slept on your pillow as her way of saying good-bye and
that she loves you and she's going to be ok on the
other side.  

If you need anything, or just to vent, please post or
you can email me off list.  
Thinking of you and Kisa...

:)
Wendy

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RE: Regarding a freak accident to my hubby..it is long...sorry!

[Melissa Lind]

Terrie,

 

My thoughts and prayers will be with you and your family today and in the
coming weeks. Sending good vibes your way.

 

Melissa

 

I also appreciated the information-I will tell my husband as well.

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 10:40 AM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: OT: Regarding a freak accident to my hubby..it is long...sorry!

 

(I want apologized if you have already seen this from other groups I'm on)

 

Hello all, 

I wanted to make everyone aware or least be alert of what can happen when
you get behind brush mowers whether it's up close or at a distance. 

It is very dangerous.

 

Yesterday, my husband was about 20 feet behind a tractor that had a brush
mower on it which was operated by his friend. My husband was looking for
items that may have been sticking out of the ground that the mower didn't
get.

 

Anyway, a huge rock flew out from the mower and my husband said he seen it
at the corner of his eye. By then it was too late. The rock hit him on his
right arm below the elbow and broke his arm in two places. I had to call 911
for help he was bleeding and going into shock. He was taken to the hospital
and had x-rays done on him. The time was around noontime that this happened.

 

My Dr. was on call who is a orthopedic surgeon had to do emergency surgery
on him. 

I have a lot of faith in him as he done my knee replacements and other bone
surgeries.

One of the bones is shattered in my husband's arm and he said it look like a
gunshot wound. He was taken into surgery about 5 pm was returned back to his
room about 9:15 pm last night. 

The Dr. told me he was bad that he could lose his arm especially below the
elbow. 

He has muscle and tissue damage. Many fragments of the bone was floating in
his arm. 

Did what he could do for him at this point. 

Only time will tell.

 

Since, my husband is a Diabetic and has HEP C from tainted blood in the 60's
from a blood transfusion he is considered high risk. He has a tube in him
that they call a Vacu this is to suck all the infection and excess blood
from the area. He is also on two different IV lines for the loss of blood
and for antibiotics. He is being monitored closely. 

I did noticed his blood pressure was high. 

So he will be in the hospital for at least some time.

He will be taken back into surgery tomorrow to check out more of the damage
and try to repair more of his arm.

 

By the way my husband is right handed this is the arm that got injured.

 

Some of you already know he just had two recent right shoulder surgeries on
the same arm. He was supposed to return back to work for light duty on the
19th of this month.

Believe it or not he was looking forward going back to work after being off
for almost a year.

Now that this has happened I don't know what we are going to do.

 

Please pray and hope he doesn't lose part of his arm. 

That he makes full recovery.

 

Terrie Mohr-Forker

TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS
SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE
Donations accepted at:
https://www.paypal.com/


http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue

http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html

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Re: Please add Nookie to CLS

[wendy]

Jeni,

I'm sorry that Nookie has passed on.  Ferals are
always so heartbreaking because you want to help them,
pet them, get them looked over by a vet, but they
won't allow anyone to touch them.  Prayers going out
for your comfort.

:)
Wendy

--- JENI RECA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Nookie passed on saturday night.  She was a feral we
> took in a year ago, and 
> though she hide quite a bit she was finally coming
> out and hanging out near 
> us.  She curled up into the little hiding place we
> made for her under the 
> stairs and passed away peacefully.
> Thank you for all the support
> Jeni
> Meer and Cree
> 
>
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> 
> 
> 


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RE: Regarding a freak accident to my hubby..it is long...sorry!

[Doljan, Joan]

Terrie,
 
I am so sorry to read about your husband's accident. Here's hoping that
he will make a full recovery soon.
 
Joan

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 11:40 AM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: OT: Regarding a freak accident to my hubby..it is
long...sorry!



(I want apologized if you have already seen this from other
groups I'm on)
 

Hello all, 
I wanted to make everyone aware or least be alert of what can
happen when you get behind brush mowers whether it's up close or at a
distance. 
It is very dangerous.
 
Yesterday, my husband was about 20 feet behind a tractor that
had a brush mower on it which was operated by his friend. My husband was
looking for items that may have been sticking out of the ground that the
mower didn't get.
 
Anyway, a huge rock flew out from the mower and my husband said
he seen it at the corner of his eye. By then it was too late. The rock
hit him on his right arm below the elbow and broke his arm in two
places. I had to call 911 for help he was bleeding and going into shock.
He was taken to the hospital and had x-rays done on him. The time was
around noontime that this happened.
 
My Dr. was on call who is a orthopedic surgeon had to do
emergency surgery on him. 
I have a lot of faith in him as he done my knee replacements and
other bone surgeries.
One of the bones is shattered in my husband's arm and he said it
look like a gunshot wound. He was taken into surgery about 5 pm was
returned back to his room about 9:15 pm last night. 
The Dr. told me he was bad that he could lose his arm especially
below the elbow. 
He has muscle and tissue damage. Many fragments of the bone was
floating in his arm. 
Did what he could do for him at this point. 
Only time will tell.
 
Since, my husband is a Diabetic and has HEP C from tainted blood
in the 60's from a blood transfusion he is considered high risk. He has
a tube in him that they call a Vacu this is to suck all the infection
and excess blood from the area. He is also on two different IV lines for
the loss of blood and for antibiotics. He is being monitored closely. 
I did noticed his blood pressure was high. 
So he will be in the hospital for at least some time.
He will be taken back into surgery tomorrow to check out more of
the damage and try to repair more of his arm.
 
By the way my husband is right handed this is the arm that got
injured.
 
Some of you already know he just had two recent right shoulder
surgeries on the same arm. He was supposed to return back to work for
light duty on the 19th of this month.
Believe it or not he was looking forward going back to work
after being off for almost a year.
Now that this has happened I don't know what we are going to do.
 
Please pray and hope he doesn't lose part of his arm. 
That he makes full recovery.
 
Terrie Mohr-Forker

TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS
SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE
Donations accepted at:
https://www.paypal.com/


http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue

http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html

http://www.felineleukemia.org/

http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html

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Re: CLS for Jet

[wendy]

Tad,

I'm so sorry that you've lost little Jet.  Prayers
going out for comfort for you and Marie.

:)
Wendy

--- Tad Burnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   My sweet black cat Jet just passed away just a few
> minutes ago 
> June 12, 2007
> She is the 5th of the 6 FeLV+ cats from Angel
> Wings... She has been here 
> with me
> for 2 years.. She is probably about 5 years old...
> She has been healthy 
> all the time
> she was here and enjoyed her life here with Marie
> and myself and all the 
> other cats...
> She has been especially close to my feral cat who
> was just starting to 
> tame when jet
> came here... Jet most often slept curled up next to
> me and that's where 
> she was tonight
> when I felt those now all to familiar little muscle
> contractions that 
> signals when life has
> left the body on this earth...
> I knew her time was coming about a month ago when
> she started acting 
> like an older
> cat and slowed down sum but even tonight she was
> eating but she had been 
> acting
> quite weak today and only an hour before she passed
> was the 1st time 
> that she wasn't
> able to stand up and walk... I pulled her up close
> to me and she felt 
> comfortable...
> 
> We all will miss our Jet Cat...
> Tad and Marie.
> 
> 
> 
> 


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RE: Regarding a freak accident to my hubby..it is long...sorry!

[Rosenfeldt, Diane]

Oh, Lord, Terrie!  What a mess!  Best wishes that your husband makes a
full recovery!
 
Diane R.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 10:40 AM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: OT: Regarding a freak accident to my hubby..it is long...sorry!


(I want apologized if you have already seen this from other groups I'm
on)
 
Hello all, 
I wanted to make everyone aware or least be alert of what can happen
when you get behind brush mowers whether it's up close or at a distance.

It is very dangerous.
 
Yesterday, my husband was about 20 feet behind a tractor that had a
brush mower on it which was operated by his friend. My husband was
looking for items that may have been sticking out of the ground that the
mower didn't get.
 
Anyway, a huge rock flew out from the mower and my husband said he seen
it at the corner of his eye. By then it was too late. The rock hit him
on his right arm below the elbow and broke his arm in two places. I had
to call 911 for help he was bleeding and going into shock. He was taken
to the hospital and had x-rays done on him. The time was around noontime
that this happened.
 
My Dr. was on call who is a orthopedic surgeon had to do emergency
surgery on him. 
I have a lot of faith in him as he done my knee replacements and other
bone surgeries.
One of the bones is shattered in my husband's arm and he said it look
like a gunshot wound. He was taken into surgery about 5 pm was returned
back to his room about 9:15 pm last night. 
The Dr. told me he was bad that he could lose his arm especially below
the elbow. 
He has muscle and tissue damage. Many fragments of the bone was floating
in his arm. 
Did what he could do for him at this point. 
Only time will tell.
 
Since, my husband is a Diabetic and has HEP C from tainted blood in the
60's from a blood transfusion he is considered high risk. He has a tube
in him that they call a Vacu this is to suck all the infection and
excess blood from the area. He is also on two different IV lines for the
loss of blood and for antibiotics. He is being monitored closely. 
I did noticed his blood pressure was high. 
So he will be in the hospital for at least some time.
He will be taken back into surgery tomorrow to check out more of the
damage and try to repair more of his arm.
 
By the way my husband is right handed this is the arm that got injured.
 
Some of you already know he just had two recent right shoulder surgeries
on the same arm. He was supposed to return back to work for light duty
on the 19th of this month.
Believe it or not he was looking forward going back to work after being
off for almost a year.
Now that this has happened I don't know what we are going to do.
 
Please pray and hope he doesn't lose part of his arm. 
That he makes full recovery.
 
Terrie Mohr-Forker

TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS
SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE
Donations accepted at:
https://www.paypal.com/


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OT: Regarding a freak accident to my hubby..it is long...sorry!

[TatorBunz]

(I want apologized if you have already seen this from other  groups I'm on)
 
 
Hello all, 
I wanted to make everyone aware or least be alert of what  can happen when 
you get behind brush mowers whether it's up close or at a  distance. 
It is very dangerous.
 
Yesterday, my husband was about 20 feet behind a tractor that  had a brush 
mower on it which was operated by his friend. My husband was looking  for items 
that may have been sticking out of the ground that the mower didn't  get.
 
Anyway, a huge rock flew out from the mower and my husband said  he seen it 
at the corner of his eye. By then it was too late. The rock hit him  on his 
right arm below the elbow and broke his arm in two places. I had to call  911 
for 
help he was bleeding and going into shock. He was taken to the hospital  and 
had x-rays done on him. The time was around noontime that this  happened.
 
My Dr. was on call who is a orthopedic surgeon had to do  emergency surgery 
on him. 
I have a lot of faith in him as he done my knee replacements  and other bone 
surgeries.
One of the bones is shattered in my husband's arm and he said  it look like a 
gunshot wound. He was taken into surgery about 5 pm was returned  back to his 
room about 9:15 pm last night. 
The Dr. told me he was bad that he could lose his arm  especially below the 
elbow. 
He has muscle and tissue damage. Many fragments of the bone was  floating in 
his arm. 
Did what he could do for him at this point. 
Only time will tell.
 
Since, my husband is a Diabetic and has HEP C from tainted  blood in the 60's 
from a blood transfusion he is considered high risk. He has a  tube in him 
that they call a Vacu this is to suck all the infection and excess  blood from 
the area. He is also on two different IV lines for the loss of blood  and for 
antibiotics. He is being monitored closely. 
I did noticed his blood pressure was high. 
So he will be in the hospital for at least some  time.
He will be taken back into surgery tomorrow to check out more  of the damage 
and try to repair more of his arm.
 
By the way my husband is right handed this is the arm that got  injured.
 
Some of you already know he just had two recent right shoulder  surgeries on 
the same arm. He was supposed to return back to work for light duty  on the 
19th of this month.
Believe it or not he was looking forward going back to work  after being off 
for almost a year.
Now that this has happened I don't know what we are going to  do.
 
Please pray and hope he doesn't lose part of his arm. 
That he makes full  recovery.

 
Terrie Mohr-Forker

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SIAMESE  & COLLIE RESCUE
Donations accepted at:
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RE: CLS for Jet

[Stray Cat Alliance]

I am so sorry for your loss of Jet. How lucky she was to have you both -- and I 
bet you feel pretty lucky to -- to have had her, even though it wasn't as long 
as you would have liked. What a true gift she was to have in your life.
 
Anita


Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 02:41:30 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: CLS for 
JetTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
I am sorry Tad.  I'm glad Jet was with you in her last moments on earth.  
 
GinaTad Burnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
My sweet black cat Jet just passed away just a few minutes ago June 12, 
2007She is the 5th of the 6 FeLV+ cats from Angel Wings... She has been here 
with mefor 2 years.. She is probably about 5 years old... She has been healthy 
all the timeshe was here and enjoyed her life here with Marie and myself and 
all the other cats...She has been especially close to my feral cat who was just 
starting to tame when jetcame here... Jet most often slept curled up next to me 
and that's where she was tonightwhen I felt those now all to familiar little 
muscle contractions that signals when life hasleft the body on this earth...I 
knew her time was coming about a month ago when she started acting like an 
oldercat and slowed down sum but even tonight she was eating but she had been 
actingquite weak today and only an hour before she passed was the 1st time that 
she wasn'table to stand up and walk... I pulled her up close to me and she felt 
comfortable...We all will miss our Jet Cat...Tad and Marie.
 
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RE: Please add Nookie to CLS

[Melissa Lind]

Jeni,

Poor Nookie. Bless you for your help. So many furbabies this week, but so
much love and understanding. Peace to you and your furfamily.

Melissa

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JENI RECA
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 11:10 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Please add Nookie to CLS

Nookie passed on saturday night.  She was a feral we took in a year ago, and

though she hide quite a bit she was finally coming out and hanging out near 
us.  She curled up into the little hiding place we made for her under the 
stairs and passed away peacefully.
Thank you for all the support
Jeni
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RE: Kisa is gone :(

[Stray Cat Alliance]

I am so sorry for your loss. Even though her life was short, Kisa was well 
loved and cared for, as was Kodaand am sure they both knew and appreciated 
you and your compassion.
 
Anita


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Kisa is gone :(Date: Tue, 12 Jun 
2007 16:50:38 -0500




Kisa passed away this morning while I was at work, exactly one month after 
Koda.  My heart is broken, especially since I wasn't there with her at the end.
 
I had prayed and hoped so much that she would continue to improve after she 
started eating again a week and a half ago.  I suppose it was just too much for 
her to overcome.  The anemia never really did improve much. Though her 
breathing was better, her skin was so pale.
 
The last few days, her appetite faltered again, and she was getting weaker.  I 
didn't think today would be the day she died, though i'm relieved she didn't 
have to go on suffering much longer.  I don't think she was in pain, and I 
sincerely hope she wasn't in pain at the end.  It was just so hard to see her 
so weak when she was as active and happy as a kitten 3 weeks ago.
 
Kisa is going to be missed more than words can say.  She never quite saw her 
3rd birthday, but the time she spent with us will never be forgotten.  She was 
special in so many ways, I wouldn't even know where to start to list them all.  
Fearless, loving, gentle, playful, curious, and sweet are just a few of the 
words that describe her.  She's been sleeping on my pillow the last few nights, 
and i'm going to miss her warmth so much.
 
If it ever stops raining, she will be buried next to Koda tonight.  I made a 
rock garden full of flowers on top of Koda's grave.  Now Kisa will join her 
there.
 
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RE: CLS for Jet

[Melissa Lind]

Tad and Marie,

Jet was so blessed to have her loved ones close as she passed. What
wonderful people you are.

Melissa

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tad Burnett
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 10:52 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: CLS for Jet

  My sweet black cat Jet just passed away just a few minutes ago 
June 12, 2007
She is the 5th of the 6 FeLV+ cats from Angel Wings... She has been here 
with me
for 2 years.. She is probably about 5 years old... She has been healthy 
all the time
she was here and enjoyed her life here with Marie and myself and all the 
other cats...
She has been especially close to my feral cat who was just starting to 
tame when jet
came here... Jet most often slept curled up next to me and that's where 
she was tonight
when I felt those now all to familiar little muscle contractions that 
signals when life has
left the body on this earth...
I knew her time was coming about a month ago when she started acting 
like an older
cat and slowed down sum but even tonight she was eating but she had been 
acting
quite weak today and only an hour before she passed was the 1st time 
that she wasn't
able to stand up and walk... I pulled her up close to me and she felt 
comfortable...

We all will miss our Jet Cat...
Tad and Marie.

RE: Please add Nookie to CLS

[Rosenfeldt, Diane]

Jeni --

I'm sorry that Nookie had to leave you just as she was starting to
become a real part of your household.  Gentle Bridge vibes to her.

Diane R.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JENI RECA
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 11:10 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Please add Nookie to CLS

Nookie passed on saturday night.  She was a feral we took in a year ago,
and 
though she hide quite a bit she was finally coming out and hanging out
near 
us.  She curled up into the little hiding place we made for her under
the 
stairs and passed away peacefully.
Thank you for all the support
Jeni
Meer and Cree

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RE: CLS for Jet

[Rosenfeldt, Diane]

Tad and Marie --

My deepest condolences on Jet's passing.  I know she couldn't have been
any more loved.

Diane R. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tad Burnett
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 10:52 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: CLS for Jet

  My sweet black cat Jet just passed away just a few minutes ago 
June 12, 2007
She is the 5th of the 6 FeLV+ cats from Angel Wings... She has been here

with me
for 2 years.. She is probably about 5 years old... She has been healthy 
all the time
she was here and enjoyed her life here with Marie and myself and all the

other cats...
She has been especially close to my feral cat who was just starting to 
tame when jet
came here... Jet most often slept curled up next to me and that's where 
she was tonight
when I felt those now all to familiar little muscle contractions that 
signals when life has
left the body on this earth...
I knew her time was coming about a month ago when she started acting 
like an older
cat and slowed down sum but even tonight she was eating but she had been

acting
quite weak today and only an hour before she passed was the 1st time 
that she wasn't
able to stand up and walk... I pulled her up close to me and she felt 
comfortable...

We all will miss our Jet Cat...
Tad and Marie.



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RE: Kisa is gone :(

[Melissa Lind]

Cassandra,

 

I haven't been posting, but I've been trying to read and look for updates on
your Kisa. I'm so sorry for your loss. She was such a little fighter
recently. I'm always surprised at how diverse our kitties are-how there are
numerous words to describe their personalities-like you said. I'm so happy
there are people like you and everyone on this group who understand that-who
have compassion in their hearts no matter how much their hearts hurt because
of their giving nature. I think the amount of our hurt is directly related
to how much we love. It's as though the more we love the more it hurts, but
it ultimately won't stop us from saving more poor furbabies because if we
don't, then no one will. 

 

Cassandra-I hope you find some peace in your grief-but sometimes it's just
best to be sad while you remember darling Kisa.

 

Melissa

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C & J
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 4:51 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Kisa is gone :(

 

Kisa passed away this morning while I was at work, exactly one month after
Koda.  My heart is broken, especially since I wasn't there with her at the
end.

 

I had prayed and hoped so much that she would continue to improve after she
started eating again a week and a half ago.  I suppose it was just too much
for her to overcome.  The anemia never really did improve much. Though her
breathing was better, her skin was so pale.

 

The last few days, her appetite faltered again, and she was getting weaker.
I didn't think today would be the day she died, though i'm relieved she
didn't have to go on suffering much longer.  I don't think she was in pain,
and I sincerely hope she wasn't in pain at the end.  It was just so hard to
see her so weak when she was as active and happy as a kitten 3 weeks ago.

 

Kisa is going to be missed more than words can say.  She never quite saw her
3rd birthday, but the time she spent with us will never be forgotten.  She
was special in so many ways, I wouldn't even know where to start to list
them all.  Fearless, loving, gentle, playful, curious, and sweet are just a
few of the words that describe her.  She's been sleeping on my pillow the
last few nights, and i'm going to miss her warmth so much.

 

If it ever stops raining, she will be buried next to Koda tonight.  I made a
rock garden full of flowers on top of Koda's grave.  Now Kisa will join her
there.

 

Cassandra

RE: Charity (Crossed The Bridge)- Heartfelt Thanks & Update

[Melissa Lind]

Patti,

 

I've been trying and trying to keep up with all the happenings on here, but
I've finally got a spare second to post. I admire you for all you are doing
and for your commitment and energy. I have no physical handicaps, and I
manage to achieve only a fraction of your efforts. I think I shall remember
you and your courage with the kitties next time I'm grumbly. I'm so sorry
about Charity, but I'm so inspired by her story and her return to you.

 

Best,

Melissa

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 12:36 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Charity (Crossed The Bridge)- Heartfelt Thanks & Update

 

In a message dated 6/11/07 4:02:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Take
care of yourself and treat yourself to that slice of
cheesecake or a hot bath or whatever brings a smile to
your face.  Charity would like that.

Dear Wendy & ALL the wonderful, compassionate, supportive, et al list
members,

It's Tuesday now and I have not been online [too much "other" stuff-
devastated mainly]

Just wanted to let you all know [again], this group is so, so
wonderful.. I know I'll never leave...

I want to give thanks for all the "suggestions" on what to do w/ Charity's
remains When all of a sudden you're faced w/ such a tragedy, your mind
goes blank..  And, since MVA my mind doesn't "function"

My room mate was absolutely a god-send  And, he didn't even "like" my
girl, thought I was crazy for taking her in...(Poor girl only liked me, she
was nasty w/ everyone else.)  Can't blame her though, not one bit. (Being
"taped" in a cardboard box w/ her babies ) After that, was it any wonder
she despised humans???  I know, with all I've seen, I definitely prefer
critters over humans.

I couldn't get a cooler, but thank heavens we live in a real old home.My
room mate wrapped her {gently] very well and he put her remains down in the
basement..And, being such an old house, the basement has stone walls,
also, a crawlspace - which is where he placed her.  And, it was HOT, but the
basement [always] remains cool

So, yesterday, Monday, I [we] took her to vet for cremation.  And, when I
get her remains back, she will be [back] w/ her [our] Bart again.

She was such a loving girl - when I "earned" her trust when she came to me
to help Bart When she realized I DID help her [our] Bart, the change in
her behavior was unbelievable  And, gaining "trust" is so wonderful
I can't even express just how I felt  (Bart & Charity both put their
trust in me  And, that meant more than I can ever express).

I absolutely loved my Charity,  and knowing that she loved me is..
WONDERFUL!!!  AMAZING

I'm just so heartbroken she passed at such a young age.  But, I can take
comfort knowing at the end, she finally knew she was much loved

I really believe it was FIP.  Being together w/ Bart, well. 

And, I have the comfort remembering cuddling her & holding her right before
she passed I'll NEVER forget that!

 

And Wendy, as far as "taking care of myself", well, being a vegan,
cheesecake is out. {I DO make tofu cheesecake, but I'm just not into baking,
or any cooking right now].  And yes, I did take a bath... but you know
what I did, that seemed to get almost all my "feelings" out   Washed ALL
my windows, curtains, put diff. curtains up in all my windows   But, you
know what???  It really, really helped me "deal"

Go ahead, call me crazy.

 

Much love & thanks to EVERYONE

Hugs,

Patti & her gang

   





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RE: Kisa is gone :(

[Rosenfeldt, Diane]

I'm so sorry, Cassandra.  Gentlest of Bridge vibes to Kisa, and hugs to
you.  It's so hard anytime, but when they're so young it's just that
much worse.  I like to think that little souls who don't have a chance
to live out their full span get another chance later on.  If so, I hope
Kisa finds you again.
 
Diane R.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C & J
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 4:51 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Kisa is gone :(


Kisa passed away this morning while I was at work, exactly one month
after Koda.  My heart is broken, especially since I wasn't there with
her at the end.
 
I had prayed and hoped so much that she would continue to improve after
she started eating again a week and a half ago.  I suppose it was just
too much for her to overcome.  The anemia never really did improve much.
Though her breathing was better, her skin was so pale.
 
The last few days, her appetite faltered again, and she was getting
weaker.  I didn't think today would be the day she died, though i'm
relieved she didn't have to go on suffering much longer.  I don't think
she was in pain, and I sincerely hope she wasn't in pain at the end.  It
was just so hard to see her so weak when she was as active and happy as
a kitten 3 weeks ago.
 
Kisa is going to be missed more than words can say.  She never quite saw
her 3rd birthday, but the time she spent with us will never be
forgotten.  She was special in so many ways, I wouldn't even know where
to start to list them all.  Fearless, loving, gentle, playful, curious,
and sweet are just a few of the words that describe her.  She's been
sleeping on my pillow the last few nights, and i'm going to miss her
warmth so much.
 
If it ever stops raining, she will be buried next to Koda tonight.  I
made a rock garden full of flowers on top of Koda's grave.  Now Kisa
will join her there.
 
Cassandra

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condolences

[Jane Lyons]

"We who choose to surround ourselves
With lives even more temporary than our own
Live within a fragile circle, easily and often breached"

For Charity, Kisa, Jet and Nookie and to those who loved them
'rest in peace'

Jane

Cassandra/Kisa

[Jane Lyons]

Cassandra
I am so very sorry for your loss. I hope you can find comfort knowing 
that

she is reunited with Koda and that they are both without pain.
I hope you can now get some rest.
Jane

Re: Please add Nookie to CLS

[Tad Burnett]

Jeni...I am so sorry to hear of your loss of Nookie...
She will be at the bridge and meet Jet and be Jets new feral friend...
Midnight, the black cat that came here from your area just a few
weeks ago is doing fine and my feral cat Daisy was paying special
attention to her this morning, I guess because she can't find her old
friend Jet...
Tad

JENI RECA wrote:

Nookie passed on saturday night.  She was a feral we took in a year 
ago, and though she hide quite a bit she was finally coming out and 
hanging out near us.  She curled up into the little hiding place we 
made for her under the stairs and passed away peacefully.

Thank you for all the support
Jeni
Meer and Cree

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Re: Please add Nookie to CLS

[Marylyn]

Nookie was a very lucky feral and she knew it.  You provided love, safety, 
and all that she needed.  She showed that by where she left this world.


Blessings to all of you.






If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: "JENI RECA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 11:10 PM
Subject: Please add Nookie to CLS


Nookie passed on saturday night.  She was a feral we took in a year ago, 
and though she hide quite a bit she was finally coming out and hanging out 
near us.  She curled up into the little hiding place we made for her under 
the stairs and passed away peacefully.

Thank you for all the support
Jeni
Meer and Cree

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Re: CLS for Jet

[Marylyn]

How wonderful it is that you were able to make Jet so comfortable and loved. 
Blessings to her and your family.







If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: "Tad Burnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 10:52 PM
Subject: CLS for Jet


 My sweet black cat Jet just passed away just a few minutes ago June 
12, 2007
She is the 5th of the 6 FeLV+ cats from Angel Wings... She has been here 
with me
for 2 years.. She is probably about 5 years old... She has been healthy 
all the time
she was here and enjoyed her life here with Marie and myself and all the 
other cats...
She has been especially close to my feral cat who was just starting to 
tame when jet
came here... Jet most often slept curled up next to me and that's where 
she was tonight
when I felt those now all to familiar little muscle contractions that 
signals when life has

left the body on this earth...
I knew her time was coming about a month ago when she started acting like 
an older
cat and slowed down sum but even tonight she was eating but she had been 
acting
quite weak today and only an hour before she passed was the 1st time that 
she wasn't
able to stand up and walk... I pulled her up close to me and she felt 
comfortable...


We all will miss our Jet Cat...
Tad and Marie.

Re: Kisa is gone :(

[Gina WN]

Cassandra,
   
  I know your heart is breaking and I am so sorry for your loss of Kisa.  We 
all were hoping she would rally as well.  Take care of yourself.  Godspeed Kisa.
   
  Gina
  

C & J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Kisa passed away this morning while I was at work, exactly one month 
after Koda.  My heart is broken, especially since I wasn't there with her at 
the end.
   
  I had prayed and hoped so much that she would continue to improve after she 
started eating again a week and a half ago.  I suppose it was just too much for 
her to overcome.  The anemia never really did improve much. Though her 
breathing was better, her skin was so pale.
   
  The last few days, her appetite faltered again, and she was getting weaker.  
I didn't think today would be the day she died, though i'm relieved she didn't 
have to go on suffering much longer.  I don't think she was in pain, and I 
sincerely hope she wasn't in pain at the end.  It was just so hard to see her 
so weak when she was as active and happy as a kitten 3 weeks ago.
   
  Kisa is going to be missed more than words can say.  She never quite saw her 
3rd birthday, but the time she spent with us will never be forgotten.  She was 
special in so many ways, I wouldn't even know where to start to list them all.  
Fearless, loving, gentle, playful, curious, and sweet are just a few of the 
words that describe her.  She's been sleeping on my pillow the last few nights, 
and i'm going to miss her warmth so much.
   
  If it ever stops raining, she will be buried next to Koda tonight.  I made a 
rock garden full of flowers on top of Koda's grave.  Now Kisa will join her 
there.
   
  Cassandra



 
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Re: CLS for Jet

[Gina WN]

I am sorry Tad.  I'm glad Jet was with you in her last moments on earth.  
   
  Gina

Tad Burnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  My sweet black cat Jet just passed away just a few minutes ago 
June 12, 2007
She is the 5th of the 6 FeLV+ cats from Angel Wings... She has been here 
with me
for 2 years.. She is probably about 5 years old... She has been healthy 
all the time
she was here and enjoyed her life here with Marie and myself and all the 
other cats...
She has been especially close to my feral cat who was just starting to 
tame when jet
came here... Jet most often slept curled up next to me and that's where 
she was tonight
when I felt those now all to familiar little muscle contractions that 
signals when life has
left the body on this earth...
I knew her time was coming about a month ago when she started acting 
like an older
cat and slowed down sum but even tonight she was eating but she had been 
acting
quite weak today and only an hour before she passed was the 1st time 
that she wasn't
able to stand up and walk... I pulled her up close to me and she felt 
comfortable...

We all will miss our Jet Cat...
Tad and Marie.






 
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Re: Charity (Crossed The Bridge)- Heartfelt Thanks & Update

[Gina WN]

I am so sorry that Charity crossed the Bridge.  She will be in your heart and 
soul forever.  One day you will be with each other again, as well as with Bart 
and the others who have crossed.
   
  Gina
  

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 6/11/07 4:02:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
  Take
care of yourself and treat yourself to that slice of
cheesecake or a hot bath or whatever brings a smile to
your face.  Charity would like that.

  
  Dear Wendy & ALL the wonderful, compassionate, supportive, et al list members,
  It's Tuesday now and I have not been online [too much "other" stuff- 
devastated mainly]
  Just wanted to let you all know [again], this group is so, so wonderful.. 
I know I'll never leave...
  I want to give thanks for all the "suggestions" on what to do w/ Charity's 
remains When all of a sudden you're faced w/ such a tragedy, your mind goes 
blank..  And, since MVA my mind doesn't "function"
  My room mate was absolutely a god-send  And, he didn't even "like" my 
girl, thought I was crazy for taking her in...(Poor girl only liked me, she was 
nasty w/ everyone else.)  Can't blame her though, not one bit. (Being "taped" 
in a cardboard box w/ her babies ) After that, was it any wonder she 
despised humans???  I know, with all I've seen, I definitely prefer critters 
over humans.
  I couldn't get a cooler, but thank heavens we live in a real old home.My 
room mate wrapped her {gently] very well and he put her remains down in the 
basement..And, being such an old house, the basement has stone walls, also, 
a crawlspace - which is where he placed her.  And, it was HOT, but the basement 
[always] remains cool
  So, yesterday, Monday, I [we] took her to vet for cremation.  And, when I get 
her remains back, she will be [back] w/ her [our] Bart again.
  She was such a loving girl - when I "earned" her trust when she came to me to 
help Bart When she realized I DID help her [our] Bart, the change in her 
behavior was unbelievable  And, gaining "trust" is so wonderful  I 
can't even express just how I felt  (Bart & Charity both put their trust in 
me  And, that meant more than I can ever express).
  I absolutely loved my Charity,  and knowing that she loved me is.. 
WONDERFUL!!!  AMAZING
  I'm just so heartbroken she passed at such a young age.  But, I can take 
comfort knowing at the end, she finally knew she was much loved
  I really believe it was FIP.  Being together w/ Bart, well. 
  And, I have the comfort remembering cuddling her & holding her right before 
she passed I'll NEVER forget that!
   
  And Wendy, as far as "taking care of myself", well, being a vegan, cheesecake 
is out. {I DO make tofu cheesecake, but I'm just not into baking, or any 
cooking right now].  And yes, I did take a bath... but you know what I did, 
that seemed to get almost all my "feelings" out   Washed ALL my windows, 
curtains, put diff. curtains up in all my windows   But, you know what???  
It really, really helped me "deal"
  Go ahead, call me crazy.
   
  Much love & thanks to EVERYONE
  Hugs,
  Patti & her gang
  




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