Re: Possible sick kitten
How's the baby? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 1:02 PM Subject: Possible sick kitten Hi all, Okay, here is the deal: I rescued a mama with 5 kittens (4 weeks old) at a kill shelter. One of the kittens doesn't look so good seems a little lethargic and seen some runny poop on it's butt. Others are doing well and eating. I've only had these kittens and mom for 2 days. What can I do for this kitten? Mama was tested (negative) and vaccinated/de-wormed when she came into the shelter 2 days prior to me getting them. Thanks guys! As I look up to you for info! TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE Terrie Mohr-Forker http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html http://www.felineleukemia.org/ http://www.petloss.com/ TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS https://www.paypal.com/ -- See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.
RE: FeLV Help for a 5 year old male cat
I am wondering what Whisper's RBC/packed cell volume is. I am also wondering if the drooling you are describing is thick, stringy saliva? If so, this is possibly an indication of dehydration. When we discovered our cat was felv+, she had the classic anemia leading to lethargy and unwillingness to eat. This was addressed with ONLY prednisone injection and pills, which pushed the virus into remission and she was perfectly healthy for about 2 1/2 yrs., had a mild bout with anemia, then another severe bout with anemia about 6 months after that. This time they tried Depo-Medrol (we had moved and had another vet), which did NOTHING. We also tried Interferon, which did nothing. I insisted on another prednisolone injection, and she immediately went into remission again. That was almost 4 years ago, and she hasn't come out of remission since. So she's lived for over 7 years after being diagnosed positive. And she was 8 when she was diagnosed. Also, I was told that a first test for leukemia may not be accurate and that a second should always be done. I don't remember if that depends on the kind of test, or what. If it was me, I would do my own research the best I could, ask questions, perhaps get a second opinion but definitely pursue finding the cause. Personally, to me, it does sound like it could be something other than leukemia. I wish you luck. I know the stress you are under worrying about your kitty and what is best to do, and who to trust. On Sat 10/6/2007 2:20 PM, catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : > > Probably true, but you could get copies of all the tests your vet has run and > avoid repeating at least a few of them. I don't know. With what I've been > going through with changing vets I'm appalled at how different they are in > how they approach things. > > For example my old vet said bloodwork was fine, but my new vet said > bloodwork pointed to the beginnings of crf and ran additional bloodwork that > turned out that she was correct. (Bloodwork within 1 week's > difference)... > > t > > Chris Behnke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Another thing to think about, is that if you switch vets now, the new vet > will want to run all the same tests over again. > > Chris > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Behnke > Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 8:10 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: RE: FeLV Help for a 5 year old male cat > > Sometimes it is hard to completely diagnose what is going on with a cat with > leukemia. There are so many factors to consider. Not to mention, sometimes > the symptoms may point to too many things instead of narrowing it down. I > recently lost one of my cats to a tumor in the eye and nasal cavity. She > started getting sick earlier this spring, but we didn't find out about the > tumor until it was too late. This was no ones fault. We, the vet and I, > ran a lot of test, had her in for exams at least 3 times a month. We tried > many medications but nothing helped her to get better. The vet really cared > and wasn't just trying to make money. But the symptoms weren't enough, nor > were the blood tests. It sounds like Whisper could have Herpes. This is > common with FeLV+ and is usually treatable. But, once again, the symptoms > for herpes are also the same for other diseases/viruses. Basically I am > just trying to say that it may seem as if all the vet cares about is money, > but this may not be the case. I would do some research on the web about > Whisper's symptoms and then talk with the vet again and see what he says > about what you found out. > > Chris > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vila Ash > Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 7:37 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: FeLV Help for a 5 year old male cat > > I sent this by my other email. I got a message back > saying its pending due to my email address not being a > member. SO PLEASE reply to this one. We dont know how > much longer he will go on like this. PLEASE HELP!! > > > I have had my cat, Whisper, for about 5 years now he > use to weigh 18lbs (a year ago), now he weighs about > 7-10lbs. He is the oldest of 3 other cats. A month ago > we found out he has Leukemia. We never knew what was > wrong with him, we never thought it to be Leukemia. > About a year ago we took him to the vet, for vomiting > and drooling, the vet laughed at us because he thought > whisper was in really good health.Well a year went by > with out any treatment or even knowing some this was > wrong with him.We took him to the vet about a month or > so ago for his eyes ( he had an infection in his eyes, > and was not eating), they ran a blood test and they > told us he has Leukemia. They kept him over night to > start the treatments right a way. They gave us > Clacamox Drops (very pricey), Neo/Poly/Dex Ophthalmic
Re: felv+ cat with adenocarcinoma
Thanks for the link - I will definitely check it out. I am also hooked up with another pet cancer support group, but they, too, have little experience with the cancer. There is all kinds of info about lymphoma, but nothing on adenocarcinoma. The vets even said there is so little data out there that they cannot even give me an idea what the chances of remission are. Anyway, sorry to hear about your kitties :( I do remember you talking about Bailey before when I was on the list last year. I do know that it is a slow-moving cancer, but have not been able to get what stage or phase it's in. I have a whole load of questions for the oncologist this coming Friday. My biggest problem right now is that I can't get her appetite up. We tried cyproheptadine, which did help, but not even close to what prednisone has done in the past. I'm going to talk to the doc tomorrow about pred. Any other suggestions? Thanks for the help!
Re: Possible sick kitten
Can you syringe pedialyte? I am NOT a kitten expert by any means...agree with ER suggestion but also suggesting fluids to keep the kitten hydrated since diarrhea is dehydratingI am sure you know to be careful s/he doesn't aspirate...good luck. Diarrhea can be scarey L - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 1:02 PM Subject: Possible sick kitten Hi all, Okay, here is the deal: I rescued a mama with 5 kittens (4 weeks old) at a kill shelter. One of the kittens doesn't look so good seems a little lethargic and seen some runny poop on it's butt. Others are doing well and eating. I've only had these kittens and mom for 2 days. What can I do for this kitten? Mama was tested (negative) and vaccinated/de-wormed when she came into the shelter 2 days prior to me getting them. Thanks guys! As I look up to you for info! TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE Terrie Mohr-Forker http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html http://www.felineleukemia.org/ http://www.petloss.com/ TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS https://www.paypal.com/ -- See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.
Re: Ember and weight loss
FreeT4 is the test you want to do if there is any possibility of the T4 being incorrect. Fred's T4 was normal but his FreeT4 showed he was in the early stages of hyperthyroid, so we caught it early and he only needed a very low dose of iodine when he had the treatment and I got to bring him home the next day. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting & web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Possible sick kitten
Do you live where there are emergency clinics? Many's the time I've had to use one of them--fortunately there are quite a few around here. If not, almost all vets have after-hours number so you can call your clinic and talk to whomever has weekend duty. Or you could try the nearest PetSmart if there are any near you. All the ones around here have a vet clinic attached (Banfield) and stay open later than regular vets. Most kittens have worms so that may be the problem. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 3:41 PM Subject: Re: Possible sick kitten Can't get into my Vets until Monday. That is why I'm asking for a little help. In a message dated 10/6/2007 12:31:27 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Whenever I take in another cat/kitten, I take him/her/them directly to my vet prior to them even coming home. Sounds like this little guy/gal needs to see your vet ASAP. TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE Terrie Mohr-Forker http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html http://www.felineleukemia.org/ http://www.petloss.com/ TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS https://www.paypal.com/ -- See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.
Re: Possible sick kitten
Can't get into my Vets until Monday. That is why I'm asking for a little help. In a message dated 10/6/2007 12:31:27 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Whenever I take in another cat/kitten, I take him/her/them directly to my vet prior to them even coming home. Sounds like this little guy/gal needs to see your vet ASAP. TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE Terrie Mohr-Forker _http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/_ (http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/) _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue) _http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html_ (http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html) _http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html_ (http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html) _http://www.felineleukemia.org/_ (http://www.felineleukemia.org/) _http://www.petloss.com/_ (http://www.petloss.com/) TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS _https://www.paypal.com/_ (https://www.paypal.com/) ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
Re: Possible sick kitten
Whenever I take in another cat/kitten, I take him/her/them directly to my vet prior to them even coming home. Sounds like this little guy/gal needs to see your vet ASAP. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 3:02 PM Subject: Possible sick kitten Hi all, Okay, here is the deal: I rescued a mama with 5 kittens (4 weeks old) at a kill shelter. One of the kittens doesn't look so good seems a little lethargic and seen some runny poop on it's butt. Others are doing well and eating. I've only had these kittens and mom for 2 days. What can I do for this kitten? Mama was tested (negative) and vaccinated/de-wormed when she came into the shelter 2 days prior to me getting them. Thanks guys! As I look up to you for info! TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE Terrie Mohr-Forker http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html http://www.felineleukemia.org/ http://www.petloss.com/ TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS https://www.paypal.com/ -- See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.
Possible sick kitten
Hi all, Okay, here is the deal: I rescued a mama with 5 kittens (4 weeks old) at a kill shelter. One of the kittens doesn't look so good seems a little lethargic and seen some runny poop on it's butt. Others are doing well and eating. I've only had these kittens and mom for 2 days. What can I do for this kitten? Mama was tested (negative) and vaccinated/de-and vaccinated/de-wormed when she came into the shelter 2 days pr Thanks guys! As I look up to you for info! TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE Terrie Mohr-Forker _http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/_ (http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/) _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue) _http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html_ (http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html) _http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html_ (http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html) _http://www.felineleukemia.org/_ (http://www.felineleukemia.org/) _http://www.petloss.com/_ (http://www.petloss.com/) TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS _https://www.paypal.com/_ (https://www.paypal.com/) ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
Re: seeking placement for three feluk positive kittens
I have heard not to test for fiv less than 6 months. You can test for felv any time, And at anytime they could have just been exposed and may test negative in 3-6 months after exposure. That's at any age, although positive kittens who had a known positive mother are less likely to throw the virus. Kittens less than a year in general are less likely to throw the virus. tonya Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm sorry, I should have given a cite for this. My vet says testing cats of less than 3 months is not recommended. I can't find anything on the Internet to cooberate. Anyone hear of this before? On 10/1/07, Kelley Saveika wrote: > If they are 8-9 weeks old, SNAP tests are very inaccurate. I would > not even bother testing a kitten that age. They need to be retested > in 6 months to see if they are actually positive or not. > > On 10/1/07, JENI RECA wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Just when I found placement for the adult feluk positive, now three kittens > > need placement. The woman was going to take them to the vet to pts them, > > but I told her I would take them and find a home for them. They are about > > 8-9 weeks old and tested positive yesterday. Need help yet again. They are > > tabbys and very cute. I am picking them up from the lady today, I don't > > know if they are boys are or girls yet. I know they are a little scared, > > she found them in her backyard. There are actually five, but I can't take > > all five. She might try to find a home for the other two. Anyone out there > > want one, two or three kittens to add to their home. Willing to travel, > > food included, will spay/neutered them. > > Thank you > > Jeni > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > > Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger > > http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us&source=wlmailtagline > > > > > -- > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. > > http://www.rescuties.org > > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! > > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 > > Please help George! > > http://rescuties.chipin.com/george > > I GoodSearch for Rescuties. > > Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the > Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo! > -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help George! http://rescuties.chipin.com/george I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
Re: Gemini is Home!! OT
I know you're so relieved t dede hicken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: David got here about 8 PM last night. Gemmi was fine. I let her go in my closet...thought she'd be a basket case. She wanted out right away. Had a few nose to nose altercations, but meowed and scampered around. She even made biscuits on the bed. She is a lot quieter today, but will come to you, and sings and purrs. David said she yelled like a banchee when the plane took off the first time. guess the noise and pressure change scared her. Everyone wanted to see her. She finally calmed down and did really well. So another loose end in our lives is closed. Dede "When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God" Mosiah 2:17 Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
RE: Kitten update Take 2
Hi Caroline,
Did you ever get Yoda's fecal to a vet? In the meantime I know our shelter
used to cook rice in chicken broth and give it to kittens with diarrhea. They
said it helped. I don't know if it really did or not, but I used to cook it
and take it to them. You might also try keeping yoda totally on wet food and
mixing it with some canned pumpkin.
Is he eating a variety of foods? (wet and dry?) I would switch him to just
one thing only for a while.
Is h e taking vitamin C? That can cause diarrhea
tonya
Caroline Kaufmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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The diarrhea contiunes but it's now mostly affecting Yoda. The other two will
have normal poos, and then sometimes soft, cow-pie poos, but they are not
having the runny, watery, sometimes mucousy diarrhea Yoda is now having. I'm
just baffeled. And upset for him. I went to scoop him up yesterday and he
tried to dodge me (he's wiley), so instead of getting scruff or the mid-section
of his body, I got only his hind quarters and I grabbed on. Well, the poor
thing simulanteously let out a baby-bird/girly squeal and also passed gas at
the same time (really loudly). I thought some diarrhea may have shot out
accidently (it hadn't) when I grabbed him because the passing gas noise was so
loud. I felt so bad- his tummy must have been bothering him. So I immediately
put him in his crate in his litter box and the poor thing immediately had
really gassy, totally liquidy diarrhea. I know, it's gross, I'm sorry! I felt
so bad for him. He also had to get a "bath" yesterday
morning because his feet were all pooy from a night in the crate- his litter
box was a mess, he'd had two boughts of diarrhea/cow pies thru the night- I
couldn't really tell if it was diarrhea because he'd spent a lot of time
burying them, hence the dirty feet. He was good for his bath tho! He's
getting Immodium AD and it seems to not be working at all! But he's still
status quo- eating like a piggy, drinking water, running around and playing
fine. I guess I will call the Vet and see what he has to say...
I myself had been sick since Tuesday the 18th!!! I only took one day off work
because I thought it was just allergies/change of season, etc., so I didn't go
to the Dr. because I didn't want to be put on an antibiotic that would just
destroy my stomach...I pushed myself too much last weekend and ended up with
laryngitis. I finally got my voice back last Wed. and thought all was well.
Well, Friday at work I felt intense muscle pain and my neck hurt, I felt like I
would throw up-- it was horrible. I finally just went home early and admitted
to myself that I had a fever! No other symptoms besides a fever and just
feeling like I might die. So I spent a miserable Fri. night freezing to death
on my couch. By Sat. my fever had broke, but I still felt horrible, so it was
couch-time again. I think I am all recovered now but my mom is so mad at me
(for not going to the Dr.) and she says that the kitties and I are "all making
each other sick!"-- but she's crazy!
-Caroline
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Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 07:45:49 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Kitten update Take 2
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Caroline,
You're post made me LOL! You're funny!
I am hoping you figure out soon what's going on with your guys, because I'm
betting it's what's wrong with Ensie.
Keep us posted!
:)
Wendy
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change
the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade
~~~
- Original Message
From: Caroline Kaufmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 4:34:45 PM
Subject: Kitten update Take 2
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Yoda's fecal back and it's totally negative- even the flotation. Now I don't
know what to do and I pretty much told the Doctor that ("what do I do!?"). He
doesn't seem to think it's from the antibiotic. Yoda was the first started on
it at Labor Day and he was on it 10 days, so he's been off it a long time. I
was also surprised that none of the kittens had diarrhea while actually on
Amoxy (Monkee always got soft stools when on Clavamox). Anyway, he said it
could be a virus of some kind, but it's definitely not bacterial or parasites.
He asked about their exposure- which is basically nill, so he was fine with
that. He said it could still be giardia because that doesn't show up in a
fecal-- that they need the sample immediately because giardia is "like bubbles"
and you can see them really clearly under a microsc
Re: Kitten Update
Well, all diarrhea smells pretty bad. lol. As I said, I haven't had experience with Giardia, but when I used to foster kittens I could tell the coccidia smell from something else. lol. t Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Oh yes, yes it does. Giardia smells horrible. Believe me, I know. On 9/30/07, catatonya wrote: > I don't think Giardia has a specific odor like coccidia, etc It's more > like a nuisance diarrhea that's not that bad, but just won't go away. > t > > laurieskatz wrote: > > I don't remember Giardia odor but think it's from drinking dirty water. > Treatable...I think with antibiotics. I don't recall vets finding it in a > stool sample...just that we've treated cats with diarrhea for it. > Laurie > - Original Message - > From: MaryChristine > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 9:57 AM > Subject: Re: Kitten Update > > kelley, remind me on giardia--is that one that isn't easy to find (ie, isn't > in every sample?) i know that's the case with coccidia.. so far (keeping > lots and lots of paws crossed), i've never had giardia, so i don't know it's > smell, but once you've had coccidia in your house, you never forget it. > you know on csi and similar programs, they can tell the illness/problem just > from the smell? coccidia is like that. tri-trich has a different aroma > all its own. > > i > > On 9/28/07, Caroline Kaufmann wrote: > > > > > > I think they are June babies, but don't know the dates for sure because I > don't have their records with me and I don't think they are from the same > litter. They all weigh over 2 lbs now. Yoda shot up from 2.4 at Labor Day > when I took him in to 3.6 last Saturday when I weighed him. The two grey > ones are smaller, but I need to reweigh them because adoption day was so > crazy last Sat., I didn't get a chance to write down their weights. I ended > up with one long haired grey one because it wouldn't gain weight and > couldn't get fixed yet because it didn't weigh 2 lbs. The volunteer who had > it before me was syringe feeding it? But when I got it, it immediately ate > crunchies first? So I started mixing wet and dry with that cat and it will > eat both now fine. The cat did not need to be syringe fed. I weighed it > last Saturday and I think it's 2.4 This is my smallest one, but it's > clearly gained weight since I have had it (we think it's a boy, but it's so > hard to tell when they are tiny and have long hair!). It's getting more > longer than fatter so the cat is really funny-looking now because it has > this long, lean skinny mid-section and this big head that looks like it > would tip it over! As opposed to Yoda who gets a fat snake belly everytime > he eats and who has a tiny head! > > They are not dripping diarrhea though. As of yesterday, the diarrhea was > a little worse tho in all of them- more watery, less cow pie-like. > > We are doing a stool sample today. My mom is off work so she is going to > pick up a Yoda stool sample and take that in. Hopefully, we will have some > answers soon. The smelly poo is driving me crazy! > > -Caroline > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 01:48:07 -0700 > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Kitten Update > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > In my experience though, coccidia gets really bad, really fast. i.e. the > kittens are basically dripping diarrheaThey get it on their rear ends > and back legs and have to be bathed frequently, etcThey don't make it to > the litterbox. That's what has been my experience with coccidia. Kittens > are often born with coccidia as well. When you've dealt with it you can > usually tell from the smell. ugh. > > > > With soft stools a lot of times it's giardia. I think a fecal is a good > idea, but if the stools are not as I described above, or if nothing shows > up, I don't think I'd add another med. at this time. > > > > Lots of kittens just have loose stools due to changes in diet, additives, > stress, etc Are they still hydrated? losing weight? I had one kitten > we put through the ringer trying to diagnose his loose stools, and we > finally just left him alone and they cleared up. I think it was all the > medicine we were giving him. How old are the kittens again? > > > > t > > > > Kelley Saveika wrote: > > On 9/27/07, Caroline Kaufmann wrote: > > > My three kittens are status-quo. I started them on a probiotic made by > > > Eagle Brand on Tues. evening, so they've had a day and a half of that > and > > > we're still having diarrhea/soft stools/cow pies (and stinky!). I don't > > > know how long it takes the probiotic to work though? I have talked to > the > > > volunteer of the Adoption group- who originally had these kittens and > whom I > > > needed to obtain approval from before taking in a stool sample. She said > > > she doubts it's coccidia or girardia because she thinks it would have > shown > > > up earlier because she had them at
Re: Ember and weight loss
Yes, if you go this route ask for a full thyroid panel. There is a 'basic' test. I don't remember which one.. which can come out negative when your cat really does have a thyroid problem. t wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey Lance, Checking the thyroid is a good idea because cats with thyroid issues often can't gain weight no matter how much they eat. Let us know how the test goes. The test is called a T4, and some vets also take a free T4. I don't know what else to tell you about the weight loss. Did your vet offer any other possible explanations? You could try to introduce the Evo back slowly as you said. If she has another reaction, maybe she has an allergy to something in the food, which would be good for you to know. :) Wendy "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Lance To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 5:39:01 PM Subject: Ember and weight loss Ember went to the vet today for a CBC. We go roughly every three months. For the last eight or nine months, Ember has been losing weight. This particular problem started around last Christmas, when Ember developed diarrhea, and I had no idea of how to get rid of it. Pumpkin helped a little, but I was reluctant to try anything else, especially since it really didn't seem to be an infection. I decided to take Ember off of Innova EVO dry, and the diarrhea almost promptly went away. Since then, Ember has been dropping weight. She's lost about 1.8 pounds since that time until today, when she weighed 9.5 pounds. Now, this might be my fault. I hope it is, as that would be the easiest thing to fix. I've only been giving her a can of EVO a day for most of the time, and that might not be enough. In the last few weeks, I've also given her two cans of Sheba a week as treats. Ember's CBC was normal, which, in her case, means good red blood cell count, and just below normal white blood cell count. The vet doesn't think that this is thyroid-related, but I might have her run that test on Ember in a few weeks. Ember eats well (especially the Sheba). She is playful and loving as always. Should I try a brand new bag of EVO dry to see what adding that back might do? I would add that *very slowly*. Would it be okay for me to bump up Sheba, and has anyone fed much Sheba? The vet wanted Ember to come back in to be weighed in a few weeks, but I'd rather do that at home. Is there a postal or baby scale with which anyone here has had good results? Thank you, Lance Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/index.html
RE: FeLV Help for a 5 year old male cat
Probably true, but you could get copies of all the tests your vet has run and avoid repeating at least a few of them. I don't know. With what I've been going through with changing vets I'm appalled at how different they are in how they approach things. For example my old vet said bloodwork was fine, but my new vet said bloodwork pointed to the beginnings of crf and ran additional bloodwork that turned out that she was correct. (Bloodwork within 1 week's difference)... t Chris Behnke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Another thing to think about, is that if you switch vets now, the new vet will want to run all the same tests over again. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Behnke Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 8:10 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: FeLV Help for a 5 year old male cat Sometimes it is hard to completely diagnose what is going on with a cat with leukemia. There are so many factors to consider. Not to mention, sometimes the symptoms may point to too many things instead of narrowing it down. I recently lost one of my cats to a tumor in the eye and nasal cavity. She started getting sick earlier this spring, but we didn't find out about the tumor until it was too late. This was no ones fault. We, the vet and I, ran a lot of test, had her in for exams at least 3 times a month. We tried many medications but nothing helped her to get better. The vet really cared and wasn't just trying to make money. But the symptoms weren't enough, nor were the blood tests. It sounds like Whisper could have Herpes. This is common with FeLV+ and is usually treatable. But, once again, the symptoms for herpes are also the same for other diseases/viruses. Basically I am just trying to say that it may seem as if all the vet cares about is money, but this may not be the case. I would do some research on the web about Whisper's symptoms and then talk with the vet again and see what he says about what you found out. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vila Ash Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 7:37 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: FeLV Help for a 5 year old male cat I sent this by my other email. I got a message back saying its pending due to my email address not being a member. SO PLEASE reply to this one. We dont know how much longer he will go on like this. PLEASE HELP!! I have had my cat, Whisper, for about 5 years now he use to weigh 18lbs (a year ago), now he weighs about 7-10lbs. He is the oldest of 3 other cats. A month ago we found out he has Leukemia. We never knew what was wrong with him, we never thought it to be Leukemia. About a year ago we took him to the vet, for vomiting and drooling, the vet laughed at us because he thought whisper was in really good health.Well a year went by with out any treatment or even knowing some this was wrong with him.We took him to the vet about a month or so ago for his eyes ( he had an infection in his eyes, and was not eating), they ran a blood test and they told us he has Leukemia. They kept him over night to start the treatments right a way. They gave us Clacamox Drops (very pricey), Neo/Poly/Dex Ophthalmic drops, and the Interferon. He seemed to be getting worse.We took him to the vet today to get them to do a check up on him ( he hasnt been eating, been having to force feed him, he wont get up much, excessive drooling.) and get more of his medication, they believe he has ulcers in his mouth which is causing him to not eat and make him drool. Well now they think he has some other disease kind of like Leukemia that is causing the ulcers, lack of appetite, and causing the medications to not work. So they want to run MORE test and give him MORE medication, etc. We are not sure what we want to do. He seems to be suffering so much, and he also seems to know he does not have much longer to live. We are all talking about either keeping him on his medication, let him live out his life without his medication, or taking him off his medication and see if he will do better, and if he does not do better then we will put him down. BUT, what I dont understand is that the vet cant fully explain to us about: what is going on, why cant they help us more, what is the other possible disease, how long might he live more, etc. It just seems like all they want is money, money and more money. One of his medication they sell for about $26 and we can get it from 1-800-PETMEDS for about $10, its the same bottle, same size, same doses. The test for leukemia is $55, and so is the other test. I dont understand what is going on. Whisper is my baby, I would give every thing to help him, but with the vet confusing us we really dont know what to do. Can you possibly explain every thing a bit better? Sincerely, Gina & Whisper Boa
Re: FeLV Help for a 5 year old male cat
I'm sorry you're going through this with Whisper. If it were me I would take Whisper to another vet for a second opinion before I made a decision. tonya Vila Ash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I sent this by my other email. I got a message back saying its pending due to my email address not being a member. SO PLEASE reply to this one. We dont know how much longer he will go on like this. PLEASE HELP!! I have had my cat, Whisper, for about 5 years now he use to weigh 18lbs (a year ago), now he weighs about 7-10lbs. He is the oldest of 3 other cats. A month ago we found out he has Leukemia. We never knew what was wrong with him, we never thought it to be Leukemia. About a year ago we took him to the vet, for vomiting and drooling, the vet laughed at us because he thought whisper was in really good health.Well a year went by with out any treatment or even knowing some this was wrong with him.We took him to the vet about a month or so ago for his eyes ( he had an infection in his eyes, and was not eating), they ran a blood test and they told us he has Leukemia. They kept him over night to start the treatments right a way. They gave us Clacamox Drops (very pricey), Neo/Poly/Dex Ophthalmic drops, and the Interferon. He seemed to be getting worse.We took him to the vet today to get them to do a check up on him ( he hasnt been eating, been having to force feed him, he wont get up much, excessive drooling.) and get more of his medication, they believe he has ulcers in his mouth which is causing him to not eat and make him drool. Well now they think he has some other disease kind of like Leukemia that is causing the ulcers, lack of appetite, and causing the medications to not work. So they want to run MORE test and give him MORE medication, etc. We are not sure what we want to do. He seems to be suffering so much, and he also seems to know he does not have much longer to live. We are all talking about either keeping him on his medication, let him live out his life without his medication, or taking him off his medication and see if he will do better, and if he does not do better then we will put him down. BUT, what I dont understand is that the vet cant fully explain to us about: what is going on, why cant they help us more, what is the other possible disease, how long might he live more, etc. It just seems like all they want is money, money and more money. One of his medication they sell for about $26 and we can get it from 1-800-PETMEDS for about $10, its the same bottle, same size, same doses. The test for leukemia is $55, and so is the other test. I dont understand what is going on. Whisper is my baby, I would give every thing to help him, but with the vet confusing us we really dont know what to do. Can you possibly explain every thing a bit better? Sincerely, Gina & Whisper Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow
Re: choosing a vet -OT
true. I'm extremely stressed at the doctor's office. lol. Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It certainly can't help. Dixie stayed in the dog area of the vet's for a few days when we found out she was FeLV+. She was obviously not happy but other cats could not be exposed to her either. She was very safe but I am sure unhappydogs, strange place, caged. There just wasn't much choice though. I wonder if the meowing, scents etc of other cats aren't upsetting too though Frankly, anytime I am in a doctor's office, even with someone, I am stressed. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 8:26 AM Subject: Re: choosing a vet -OT I feel like the barking of dogs traumatizes the cats when they're already upset about going to the vet anyway. Especially if they have to be left there for any length of time with dogs barking I just wondered if any of you felt the same about cat only clinics t Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 1. No importance. 2. No importance. 3. Very important, I have actually never had a vet that did this, I was always welcome to be in the room with the cat. My current vet does temp and weight in the back and that's about it. On 9/28/07, catatonya wrote: > How important is it to you when looking for a vet that it be > > 1- a cat only clinic > 2-doesn't declaw > 3 doesn't take your cat 'to the back' to do everything? > > That is what I had and lost. When Bob got sick last week I took off the > morning to call and get him in and there was no doctor coming in at all > until 2:00. So I tried this highly recommended new vet I'm seeing and she > seems very knowledgeable and thorough, but doesn't meet any of those > criteria. She is far away, but they are open until 9:00 every night and > Saturday and Sunday. That would keep me out of the emergency vets whom I > hate.. > > I'm just at a loss as to what to do. I don't know of any other vets in my > area that don't declaw. The new vet at my old vet's office was required not > to do it as part of the sale of the practice. But she just does not seem > good at all, she does everything in the back as wellthus wondering if I > should put up with these things and use this new vet I feel is very > knowledgeable or keep looking. And I have been looking and looking. :( > tonya > > -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help George! http://rescuties.chipin.com/george I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
