Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Ellie to CLS :(
Jenny, I will remember that always! I can just picture us there together right now, no more pain, only happiness, hugs and kisses. Thank you so much for that picture that I can see in my mind. My little girl will always be with me. God bless to you, too. Kathi > Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 19:22:24 -0500 > From: jb...@tds.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Ellie to CLS :( > > Kathi, > > I am so sorry. I was told something once that always comforts me when I > lose someone I care about. > > I believe there is life after this one and perhaps our soul is split such > that part of our soul is here in our bodies and the other is in heaven. > When we die, perhaps those two parts come together. So here's the thing, > when Ellie died and her soul went to heaven to be joined with her soul in > heaven, who do you think was the first soul waiting with wide arms to > welcome her home? > > YOU! > > God bless. > > Jenny > > On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Kathi Clark wrote: > > > > > Diane, > > > > > > > > You've all been so nice to me and I so appreciate it. You truly have made > > this most difficult day so much more bearable. Guilt needs to be replaced > > with happy memories of our fur babies who have become angels. > > > > > > > > Blessings and hugs back to you, > > > > > > > > Kathi > > > > > From: drosenfe...@wi.rr.com > > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 18:44:40 -0500 > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Ellie to CLS :( > > > > > > Kathi, I'm so sorry you lost Ellie. Gentle Bridge vibes to your beautiful > > > girl. Don't be hard on yourself. We have all second-guessed ourselves at > > > some point, and it's really a futile and sad exercise. Hugs. > > > > > > Diane R. > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathi Clark > > > Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 1:36 PM > > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Please add Ellie to CLS :( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had to put my Ellie down this morning. She was only 4 years old and > > > developed symptoms on Memorial Day and lasted only 4 days. A tumor in her > > > chest was leaking fluid and squeezing her lungs. I couldn't watch her > > > suffer any longer so I had her put down this morning. She was a little > > love > > > and purred and looked lovingly at me, even at the end. What we could > > learn > > > from these creatures could fill volumes. They are so forgiving and don't > > > ask questions. They just live for the moment and, therefore, don't miss > > the > > > moment like we time-crazed humans do. I will remember her always. She was > > > a beautifully marked little girl with gray and black swirls on her body > > and > > > white around her mouth and chin and a butterscotch nose. I am feeling > > such > > > guilt, though, that I didn't resort to any treatment whatsoever. My vet > > > never suggested it but I should have looked into it myself.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kathi > > > > > > > > > _ > > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with > > > Hotmail. > > > > > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID283 > > > 26::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 > > > ___ > > > Felvtalk mailing list > > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Felvtalk mailing list > > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > _ > > The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with > > Hotmail. > > > > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 24, Issue 5
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Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Ellie to CLS :(
Kathi, I am so sorry. I was told something once that always comforts me when I lose someone I care about. I believe there is life after this one and perhaps our soul is split such that part of our soul is here in our bodies and the other is in heaven. When we die, perhaps those two parts come together. So here's the thing, when Ellie died and her soul went to heaven to be joined with her soul in heaven, who do you think was the first soul waiting with wide arms to welcome her home? YOU! God bless. Jenny On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Kathi Clark wrote: > > Diane, > > > > You've all been so nice to me and I so appreciate it. You truly have made > this most difficult day so much more bearable. Guilt needs to be replaced > with happy memories of our fur babies who have become angels. > > > > Blessings and hugs back to you, > > > > Kathi > > > From: drosenfe...@wi.rr.com > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 18:44:40 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Ellie to CLS :( > > > > Kathi, I'm so sorry you lost Ellie. Gentle Bridge vibes to your beautiful > > girl. Don't be hard on yourself. We have all second-guessed ourselves at > > some point, and it's really a futile and sad exercise. Hugs. > > > > Diane R. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathi Clark > > Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 1:36 PM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Please add Ellie to CLS :( > > > > > > > > > > > > I had to put my Ellie down this morning. She was only 4 years old and > > developed symptoms on Memorial Day and lasted only 4 days. A tumor in her > > chest was leaking fluid and squeezing her lungs. I couldn't watch her > > suffer any longer so I had her put down this morning. She was a little > love > > and purred and looked lovingly at me, even at the end. What we could > learn > > from these creatures could fill volumes. They are so forgiving and don't > > ask questions. They just live for the moment and, therefore, don't miss > the > > moment like we time-crazed humans do. I will remember her always. She was > > a beautifully marked little girl with gray and black swirls on her body > and > > white around her mouth and chin and a butterscotch nose. I am feeling > such > > guilt, though, that I didn't resort to any treatment whatsoever. My vet > > never suggested it but I should have looked into it myself.. > > > > > > > > Kathi > > > > > > _ > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with > > Hotmail. > > > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID283 > > 26::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _ > The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with > Hotmail. > > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Ellie to CLS :(
Diane, You've all been so nice to me and I so appreciate it. You truly have made this most difficult day so much more bearable. Guilt needs to be replaced with happy memories of our fur babies who have become angels. Blessings and hugs back to you, Kathi > From: drosenfe...@wi.rr.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 18:44:40 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Ellie to CLS :( > > Kathi, I'm so sorry you lost Ellie. Gentle Bridge vibes to your beautiful > girl. Don't be hard on yourself. We have all second-guessed ourselves at > some point, and it's really a futile and sad exercise. Hugs. > > Diane R. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathi Clark > Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 1:36 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Please add Ellie to CLS :( > > > > > > I had to put my Ellie down this morning. She was only 4 years old and > developed symptoms on Memorial Day and lasted only 4 days. A tumor in her > chest was leaking fluid and squeezing her lungs. I couldn't watch her > suffer any longer so I had her put down this morning. She was a little love > and purred and looked lovingly at me, even at the end. What we could learn > from these creatures could fill volumes. They are so forgiving and don't > ask questions. They just live for the moment and, therefore, don't miss the > moment like we time-crazed humans do. I will remember her always. She was > a beautifully marked little girl with gray and black swirls on her body and > white around her mouth and chin and a butterscotch nose. I am feeling such > guilt, though, that I didn't resort to any treatment whatsoever. My vet > never suggested it but I should have looked into it myself.. > > > > Kathi > > > _ > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with > Hotmail. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID283 > 26::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Ellie to CLS :(
Kathi, I'm so sorry you lost Ellie. Gentle Bridge vibes to your beautiful girl. Don't be hard on yourself. We have all second-guessed ourselves at some point, and it's really a futile and sad exercise. Hugs. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathi Clark Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 1:36 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Please add Ellie to CLS :( I had to put my Ellie down this morning. She was only 4 years old and developed symptoms on Memorial Day and lasted only 4 days. A tumor in her chest was leaking fluid and squeezing her lungs. I couldn't watch her suffer any longer so I had her put down this morning. She was a little love and purred and looked lovingly at me, even at the end. What we could learn from these creatures could fill volumes. They are so forgiving and don't ask questions. They just live for the moment and, therefore, don't miss the moment like we time-crazed humans do. I will remember her always. She was a beautifully marked little girl with gray and black swirls on her body and white around her mouth and chin and a butterscotch nose. I am feeling such guilt, though, that I didn't resort to any treatment whatsoever. My vet never suggested it but I should have looked into it myself.. Kathi _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID283 26::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Ellie to CLS :(
Yes, she was truly beautiful, inside and out, never questioning her lot in life. I hope I see her again. Thanks again for caring. Kathi > Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 12:51:36 -0700 > From: create_me_...@yahoo.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Ellie to CLS :( > > She sounds like she was a stunning girl, Kathi. Bless you for giving her the > chance at life. > > Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org > > --- On Fri, 6/4/10, Kathi Clark wrote: > > From: Kathi Clark > Subject: [Felvtalk] Please add Ellie to CLS :( > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Friday, June 4, 2010, 2:35 PM > > > > > > I had to put my Ellie down this morning. She was only 4 years old and > developed symptoms on Memorial Day and lasted only 4 days. A tumor in her > chest was leaking fluid and squeezing her lungs. I couldn't watch her suffer > any longer so I had her put down this morning. She was a little love and > purred and looked lovingly at me, even at the end. What we could learn from > these creatures could fill volumes. They are so forgiving and don't ask > questions. They just live for the moment and, therefore, don't miss the > moment like we time-crazed humans do. I will remember her always. She was a > beautifully marked little girl with gray and black swirls on her body and > white around her mouth and chin and a butterscotch nose. I am feeling such > guilt, though, that I didn't resort to any treatment whatsoever. My vet > never suggested it but I should have looked into it myself.. > > > > Kathi > > > _ > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with > Hotmail. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Ellie to CLS :(
Sharyl, Thank you so much. I feel SO much better after reading your reply. I hope she knew she was loved. She certainly was a little treasure and gave me lots of reasons to laugh, too. I really hope I see her again some day. It's such a relief to not see her suffering any longer. Blessings, Kathi > Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 14:48:26 -0700 > From: cline...@yahoo.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Ellie to CLS :( > > Kathi, I understand how difficult it was for you to help sweet Ellie cross > over. I always have to ask myself am I trying treatments for the cat or for > myself. In the end you loved and cared for her to the best of your ability. > That's what counts. > She knew she was loved. Lighting candles tonight for our newest Angels. > Sharyl > > --- On Fri, 6/4/10, Kathi Clark wrote: > > > From: Kathi Clark > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Please add Ellie to CLS :( > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Date: Friday, June 4, 2010, 2:35 PM > > > > > > > > > > I had to put my Ellie down this morning. She was only > > 4 years old and developed symptoms on Memorial Day and > > lasted only 4 days. A tumor in her chest was leaking > > fluid and squeezing her lungs. I couldn't watch her > > suffer any longer so I had her put down this morning. > > She was a little love and purred and looked lovingly at me, > > even at the end. What we could learn from these > > creatures could fill volumes. They are so forgiving > > and don't ask questions. They just live for the moment > > and, therefore, don't miss the moment like we time-crazed > > humans do. I will remember her always. She was a > > beautifully marked little girl with gray and black swirls on > > her body and white around her mouth and chin and a > > butterscotch nose. I am feeling such guilt, though, > > that I didn't resort to any treatment whatsoever. My > > vet never suggested it but I should have looked into it > > myself.. > > > > > > > > Kathi > > > > > > > > > > > > _ > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail > > accounts with Hotmail. > > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Ellie to CLS :(
Sara, Thank you so much. I'm glad Athena and Ellie won't be alone at the Rainbow Bridge. Kathi > From: skastel...@cicresearch.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 12:43:07 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Ellie to CLS :( > > Kathi, so sorry to learn of the passing of Ellie. Now there will be two > candles burning tonight in SoCal...one for Athena and another for Ellie. > > Bless you for taking care of her. > > Sara > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathi Clark > Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 11:36 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Please add Ellie to CLS :( > > > I had to put my Ellie down this morning. She was only 4 years old and > developed symptoms on Memorial Day and lasted only 4 days. A tumor in her > chest was leaking fluid and squeezing her lungs. I couldn't watch her > suffer any longer so I had her put down this morning. She was a little love > and purred and looked lovingly at me, even at the end. What we could learn > from these creatures could fill volumes. They are so forgiving and don't > ask questions. They just live for the moment and, therefore, don't miss the > moment like we time-crazed humans do. I will remember her always. She was > a beautifully marked little girl with gray and black swirls on her body and > white around her mouth and chin and a butterscotch nose. I am feeling such > guilt, though, that I didn't resort to any treatment whatsoever. My vet > never suggested it but I should have looked into it myself.. > > > > Kathi > > > _ > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with > Hotmail. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID283 > 26::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > __ NOD32 5173 (20100604) Information __ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Ellie to CLS :(
Terry, Thank you so much.your words are very comforting on this difficult day. I'm sure the happy memories will be what I remember most. Kathi > Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 12:17:22 -0700 > From: trmckel...@charter.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > CC: kathi_cl...@hotmail.com > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Ellie to CLS :( > > Hi Kathi, > > I am so sorry. It's especially difficult when we wonder if we could have done > more, if we did the right thing, or even sometimes, after the fact might find > we made a mistake. I'm speaking of me not you, in that regard. > > Your main concern was what was best for Ellie, so please take comfort in > that. So many cats don't get the love and care you obviously gave Ellie. And > from your description, she clearly loved you too! As time goes on I hope you > can remember the happy, fun memories and make that your memorial for Ellie. > > Terry > Kathi Clark wrote: > > = > > > > > I had to put my Ellie down this morning. She was only 4 years old and > developed symptoms on Memorial Day and lasted only 4 days. A tumor in her > chest was leaking fluid and squeezing her lungs. I couldn't watch her suffer > any longer so I had her put down this morning. She was a little love and > purred and looked lovingly at me, even at the end. What we could learn from > these creatures could fill volumes. They are so forgiving and don't ask > questions. They just live for the moment and, therefore, don't miss the > moment like we time-crazed humans do. I will remember her always. She was a > beautifully marked little girl with gray and black swirls on her body and > white around her mouth and chin and a butterscotch nose. I am feeling such > guilt, though, that I didn't resort to any treatment whatsoever. My vet never > suggested it but I should have looked into it myself.. > > > > Kathi > > > _ > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with > Hotmail. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Ellie to CLS :(
Kathi, I understand how difficult it was for you to help sweet Ellie cross over. I always have to ask myself am I trying treatments for the cat or for myself. In the end you loved and cared for her to the best of your ability. That's what counts. She knew she was loved. Lighting candles tonight for our newest Angels. Sharyl --- On Fri, 6/4/10, Kathi Clark wrote: > From: Kathi Clark > Subject: [Felvtalk] Please add Ellie to CLS :( > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Friday, June 4, 2010, 2:35 PM > > > > > I had to put my Ellie down this morning. She was only > 4 years old and developed symptoms on Memorial Day and > lasted only 4 days. A tumor in her chest was leaking > fluid and squeezing her lungs. I couldn't watch her > suffer any longer so I had her put down this morning. > She was a little love and purred and looked lovingly at me, > even at the end. What we could learn from these > creatures could fill volumes. They are so forgiving > and don't ask questions. They just live for the moment > and, therefore, don't miss the moment like we time-crazed > humans do. I will remember her always. She was a > beautifully marked little girl with gray and black swirls on > her body and white around her mouth and chin and a > butterscotch nose. I am feeling such guilt, though, > that I didn't resort to any treatment whatsoever. My > vet never suggested it but I should have looked into it > myself.. > > > > Kathi > > > > > > _ > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail > accounts with Hotmail. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 24, Issue 3
yeah, the old wisdom that positive-mom meant all-positive litter, and negative mom meant all negative babies ain't worth the litter they poop in the latest stuff that i've read seems to imply that the role of nurturing, cleaning, etc may be the biggest source of exposure--so, as i put it, if great-aunt tabby is the nursemaid in the family/colony, and SHE is positive, then mom could be negative and babies could test positive because of tabby. i don't know of any proven cases where cats who have processed the virus out of their systems ever re-testing positive from a later exposure: even tho there are different strains of the virus, most sanctuaries have found out that they've had "positives" living with their negatives, often for years, because they didn't know to retest. i know in the sanctuary where i worked, kitties in all stages of infection, from asymptomatic on downhill were together, so the possibilities for re-exposure when the virus was active were certainly there. remember, tho, that they haven't done nearly enough basic research on this virus to have gotten to the point of looking at re-infection MC -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Ellie to CLS :(
She sounds like she was a stunning girl, Kathi. Bless you for giving her the chance at life. Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Fri, 6/4/10, Kathi Clark wrote: From: Kathi Clark Subject: [Felvtalk] Please add Ellie to CLS :( To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, June 4, 2010, 2:35 PM I had to put my Ellie down this morning. She was only 4 years old and developed symptoms on Memorial Day and lasted only 4 days. A tumor in her chest was leaking fluid and squeezing her lungs. I couldn't watch her suffer any longer so I had her put down this morning. She was a little love and purred and looked lovingly at me, even at the end. What we could learn from these creatures could fill volumes. They are so forgiving and don't ask questions. They just live for the moment and, therefore, don't miss the moment like we time-crazed humans do. I will remember her always. She was a beautifully marked little girl with gray and black swirls on her body and white around her mouth and chin and a butterscotch nose. I am feeling such guilt, though, that I didn't resort to any treatment whatsoever. My vet never suggested it but I should have looked into it myself.. Kathi _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Ellie to CLS :(
Kathi, so sorry to learn of the passing of Ellie. Now there will be two candles burning tonight in SoCal...one for Athena and another for Ellie. Bless you for taking care of her. Sara -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathi Clark Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 11:36 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Please add Ellie to CLS :( I had to put my Ellie down this morning. She was only 4 years old and developed symptoms on Memorial Day and lasted only 4 days. A tumor in her chest was leaking fluid and squeezing her lungs. I couldn't watch her suffer any longer so I had her put down this morning. She was a little love and purred and looked lovingly at me, even at the end. What we could learn from these creatures could fill volumes. They are so forgiving and don't ask questions. They just live for the moment and, therefore, don't miss the moment like we time-crazed humans do. I will remember her always. She was a beautifully marked little girl with gray and black swirls on her body and white around her mouth and chin and a butterscotch nose. I am feeling such guilt, though, that I didn't resort to any treatment whatsoever. My vet never suggested it but I should have looked into it myself.. Kathi _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID283 26::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ______ NOD32 5173 (20100604) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Ellie to CLS :(
Hi Kathi, I am so sorry. It's especially difficult when we wonder if we could have done more, if we did the right thing, or even sometimes, after the fact might find we made a mistake. I'm speaking of me not you, in that regard. Your main concern was what was best for Ellie, so please take comfort in that. So many cats don't get the love and care you obviously gave Ellie. And from your description, she clearly loved you too! As time goes on I hope you can remember the happy, fun memories and make that your memorial for Ellie. Terry Kathi Clark wrote: = I had to put my Ellie down this morning. She was only 4 years old and developed symptoms on Memorial Day and lasted only 4 days. A tumor in her chest was leaking fluid and squeezing her lungs. I couldn't watch her suffer any longer so I had her put down this morning. She was a little love and purred and looked lovingly at me, even at the end. What we could learn from these creatures could fill volumes. They are so forgiving and don't ask questions. They just live for the moment and, therefore, don't miss the moment like we time-crazed humans do. I will remember her always. She was a beautifully marked little girl with gray and black swirls on her body and white around her mouth and chin and a butterscotch nose. I am feeling such guilt, though, that I didn't resort to any treatment whatsoever. My vet never suggested it but I should have looked into it myself.. Kathi _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Please add Ellie to CLS :(
I had to put my Ellie down this morning. She was only 4 years old and developed symptoms on Memorial Day and lasted only 4 days. A tumor in her chest was leaking fluid and squeezing her lungs. I couldn't watch her suffer any longer so I had her put down this morning. She was a little love and purred and looked lovingly at me, even at the end. What we could learn from these creatures could fill volumes. They are so forgiving and don't ask questions. They just live for the moment and, therefore, don't miss the moment like we time-crazed humans do. I will remember her always. She was a beautifully marked little girl with gray and black swirls on her body and white around her mouth and chin and a butterscotch nose. I am feeling such guilt, though, that I didn't resort to any treatment whatsoever. My vet never suggested it but I should have looked into it myself.. Kathi _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 24, Issue 5
I am sorry to repeat myselfcould someone please send me the link for the transfactor plus site - or where you order it from? Thanks again Stacy and Spanky ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Rainbow Bridge: Athena
So sorry Beth, but glad to hear about your healthy 3 year old. There is life with Feline Leukemia. Beth Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Thu, 6/3/10, Beth Gouldin wrote: From: Beth Gouldin Subject: [Felvtalk] Rainbow Bridge: Athena To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, June 3, 2010, 8:50 PM Athena, our almost 3 year old buff manx, lost her battle with lymphosarcoma/FeLV today around 5:30pm. She went peacefully and isn't in pain anymore. She will be missed dearly. RIP sweet girl Thank you for all of your support - we're still holding out for Ajax, our almost 3 years old FeLV+ but happy/healthy siamese boy. -- Beth Gouldin beth.goul...@gmail.com 940.395.5393 God Bless!!! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Rainbow Bridge: Athena
Beth, I was saddened to read Athena has crossed the Rainbow Bridge. We love them, care for them and in the end let them go. She is now happily romping in the green meadows chasing butterflies with all our Angels. Sharyl --- On Thu, 6/3/10, Beth Gouldin wrote: > From: Beth Gouldin > Subject: [Felvtalk] Rainbow Bridge: Athena > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Thursday, June 3, 2010, 8:50 PM > Athena, our almost 3 year old buff > manx, lost her battle with > lymphosarcoma/FeLV today around 5:30pm. > She went peacefully and isn't in pain anymore. She will be > missed dearly. > RIP sweet girl > > Thank you for all of your support - we're still holding out > for Ajax, our > almost 3 years old FeLV+ but happy/healthy siamese boy. > > -- > Beth Gouldin > beth.goul...@gmail.com > 940.395.5393 > > God Bless!!! > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Rainbow Bridge: Athena
So sorry to read your post this morning. We will light a candle for Athena tonight in SoCal. Hugs to you and Ajax. Sara --Original Mail-- From: "Beth Gouldin" To: Sent: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 19:50:42 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] Rainbow Bridge: Athena Athena, our almost 3 year old buff manx, lost her battle with lymphosarcoma/FeLV today around 5:30pm. She went peacefully and isn't in pain anymore. She will be missed dearly. RIP sweet girl Thank you for all of your support - we're still holding out for Ajax, our almost 3 years old FeLV+ but happy/healthy siamese boy. -- Beth Gouldin beth.goul...@gmail.com 940.395.5393 God Bless!!! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Hello!
Marnie, Your story is similar to mine. I also had a wonderful cat put down due to my own and other people's ignorance, and the guilt will always been with me. It is such a shame that the professionals are so uneducated. But when I found Abbey, I was given options and she has given me so much joy. I have 5 now, only Abbey is positive. I mix, but do not let them share food and luckily she does not groom the others. She was kept separated from the others for nearly a year. I commend you on your dedication to these cats...you have a great story. The FELV vax does not make them positive like FIV nor does it make them carriers. Most people just vax their negatives. Some even vax the positives and claim it helps...don't know if it really does help them though. I am leary of giving Abbey any vax at all for fear it may stress her. She is a 2 1/2 year old very healthy girl with no symptoms and gets Transfer factor and L-lysine daily and also is on a strictly raw food diet. Good luck with your sanctuary... what a wonderful thing you are doing! Tracey On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Marnie Miszewski wrote: > Just wanted to introduce myself, I've been reading the board for awhile.. > My > history with FELV cats started out not so good. I found a beautiful gray > kitty that I spent months feeding outdoors trying to coax her in. At last > she rewarded me for my patience and allowed me to pick her up and bring her > inside. She was very sweet and I kept her in a spare bedroom before > introducing her to my other cats. I took her to the vet and she tested > negative for FELV. The vet recommended to keep her in the bedroom for a few > more months to make sure she was okay and I did until it was time to have > her spayed. After I dropped her off, I received a phone call telling me she > was FELV positive and recommending that I put her down. I was distraught > and > asked if I could have some time to think about it. I called everyone I knew > and tried to get a crash course on FELV which wasn't easy with all the > misinformation out there. And misinformation is what I got. The vet told me > she wouldn't last long; that she was a danger to my other cats; and also > she > was a danger to my mother who has MS. That last piece of news sealed the > deal. I agreed to let them put her down. > > > > I still carry the guilt of that decision, especially now that I have met > and > rescued Thomas O'Malley. I found him outside of work begging for food and > in > awful condition. I immediately took the rest of the day off and drove him > to > a different vet. He tested positive immediately for FELV. When the vet > asked > me what I wanted to do, I was surprised she gave me a choice. She expressed > that of course I had a choice and that under the right conditions, FELV > cats > can lead long, happy lives. I was stunned, elated, filled with guilt, > shocked, overwhelmed and so much more. I knew only one thing. I could not > possibly live with the guilt of putting another FELV cat down. So after > they > treated Tom for every parasite imaginable, they loaned me a cage to keep > him > separated, and wished me luck. At first I kept him on my screened back > porch > and he accepted this gratefully. I quickly learned he was part Siamese, > because he loved to talk. I tried to keep distance between us at first > because I knew I had to find him another home and I didn't want to get > attached. > > > > Time passed and no one wanted him. He went from the cage, to dominion over > the entire porch. It got hot so he moved into my bathroom. He was > claustrophobic so he got the spare bedroom. All the while my 7 other > kitties > (yes 7, I managed to find and fix through the years) watched him > tentatively > through the windows. He was lonely and desperately wanted some furry > companionship. I bought him the cat sitter video. He loved it but got > bored. > I knew he was going to need a friend. It was then that I knew I wanted to > start a shelter for FELV positive kitties. As fate would have it, 2 weeks > later I was laid off from work and I was able to get started officially on > the project. Helping Paws Animal Sanctuary was formed and I'm currently in > the process of trying to find a location to put these animals. I have an > awesome Realtor who really seems to know about the required zoning. I'm > confident we will have a place very soon. When I do, I will let you all > know! I know a resource like this is desperately needed. > > > > Tom still lives in my spare bedroom, but his constant whining has earned > him > a roommate. I had one of my other less social kids vaccinated and she moved > in with him. He still isn't completely happy and it's difficult for me to > refuse him anything, which is why I would like some advice from all of you. > I'm still pretty confused about the vaccine. If I give the others the > vaccine, will they test positive for FELV without really having it like > FIV? > Is it at all dangerous (I have some old
