Re: [Felvtalk] Ember

[cerwin]

Smaller pet stores, not chain stores, tend to have it too.

Chris C.


From: Lance 
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 3:44 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember

http://wholepetsholistic.com/store/

I order from those folks.

On May 12, 2013, at 3:30 PM, Margo  wrote:


  I've seen it listed at Chewy.com;

  http://www.chewy.com/cat/wet-food-389/tiki-cat

  and at Wags;

  http://www.wag.com/cat/p/tiki-cat-king-kamehameha-luau-variety-pack-146352

  Too much fish for my FLUTD guys.


^..^<



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From: dlg...@windstream.net

Sent: May 12, 2013 3:22 PM

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember



Where do you get Tiki Cat?  I have never seen it at Petsmart.

,

 Lance  wrote: 

  I may have discovered something that Ember likes even more than FF. Tiki 
Cat has two chicken formulas, and she adores both of those. I'm feeding her a 
2.8 oz can a day, along with as much of a can of a different brand of food as 
she'll eat. 



  On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:07 AM, Christiane Biagi  
wrote:



Sometimes, you can mix in a little of another food w. the FF… Just a 
little, though—they figure it out and then turn up their noses! LOL





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Re: [Felvtalk] Diarrhea

[Maryam Ulomi]

Hello,
Have you tried slippery elm?
I have used it for diarrhea and it works well.
Good luck!

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On May 12, 2013, at 14:58,  wrote:

> I have tried to switch my pride (6) to a raw diet, they just turn up their 
> noses and refuse to touch it. Of course, when I let them outside, they love 
> mice, moles and voles.  Funny tho, they never eat the organs, just head, legs 
> and skin.  How did you switch yours?  Do you warm it up?  They won't even eat 
> canned food unless it is body temperature.  In the meantime, I feed Blue 
> Buffalo and Wellness which is better than the commercial stuff.  I had a 
> couple getting sick every time they ate from the corn, wheat and soy.  As 
> soon as I switched, that went away.
> 
>  Tracey Shrout  wrote: 
>> Please, try a raw diet for these kitties. I had one felv+ with severe
>> diarrhea...went through all the meds and tests...it is the only reason she
>> is alive today at 5 years old. Another cat (negative) had bloody diarrhea,
>> and went through all the meds as well...it was her cure as well.  They
>> don't need meds, they need good quality species-appropriate food!  It works
>> almost instantly!  Please look at catinfo.org and catnutrition.org.  I
>> could go on and on about the health benefits of raw food, but please check
>> out these websites.  There are many commercial foods you can buy or make it
>> yourself...its cheaper than taking them to the vet, and it will make them
>> feel good.  As I'm sure you know, long term diarrhea is very detrimental to
>> their health since their bodies are not absorbing nutrients.  I wish your
>> kitties well...Tracey
>> 
>> On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 5:35 PM,  wrote:
>> 
>>> This really is not about FeLV+ cats.  I have 2 adult kitties with very
>>> bad, long term diarrhea.  Both have no fever, no worms and no parasites.
>>> They have both had antibiotics, endosorb, pumpkin, and one has had pro
>>> pectilin. These kitties are not related and didn't live in the same place.
>>> The vet seems stumped and now has them both on metronidazole in case of
>>> some type of viral eneritis, they both got a steroid shot to reduce any
>>> inflammation. There does not appear to be any improvement in either cat.
>>> Any suggestion would be very welcome.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Gary
>>> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember

[Lance]

http://wholepetsholistic.com/store/

I order from those folks.

On May 12, 2013, at 3:30 PM, Margo  wrote:

> I've seen it listed at Chewy.com;
> 
> http://www.chewy.com/cat/wet-food-389/tiki-cat
> 
> and at Wags;
> 
> http://www.wag.com/cat/p/tiki-cat-king-kamehameha-luau-variety-pack-146352
> 
> Too much fish for my FLUTD guys.
> 
>> ^..^<
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
>> From: dlg...@windstream.net
>> Sent: May 12, 2013 3:22 PM
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember
>> 
>> Where do you get Tiki Cat?  I have never seen it at Petsmart.
>> ,
>>  Lance  wrote: 
>>> I may have discovered something that Ember likes even more than FF. Tiki 
>>> Cat has two chicken formulas, and she adores both of those. I'm feeding her 
>>> a 2.8 oz can a day, along with as much of a can of a different brand of 
>>> food as she'll eat. 
>>> 
>>> On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:07 AM, Christiane Biagi  wrote:
>>> 
 Sometimes, you can mix in a little of another food w. the FF… Just a 
 little, though—they figure it out and then turn up their noses! LOL
>> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember

[Margo]

I've seen it listed at Chewy.com;

http://www.chewy.com/cat/wet-food-389/tiki-cat

and at Wags;

http://www.wag.com/cat/p/tiki-cat-king-kamehameha-luau-variety-pack-146352

Too much fish for my FLUTD guys.

>^..^<


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>From: dlg...@windstream.net
>Sent: May 12, 2013 3:22 PM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember
>
>Where do you get Tiki Cat?  I have never seen it at Petsmart.
>,
> Lance  wrote: 
>> I may have discovered something that Ember likes even more than FF. Tiki Cat 
>> has two chicken formulas, and she adores both of those. I'm feeding her a 
>> 2.8 oz can a day, along with as much of a can of a different brand of food 
>> as she'll eat. 
>> 
>> On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:07 AM, Christiane Biagi  wrote:
>> 
>> > Sometimes, you can mix in a little of another food w. the FF… Just a 
>> > little, though—they figure it out and then turn up their noses! LOL
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember

[dlgegg]

Where do you get Tiki Cat?  I have never seen it at Petsmart.

 Lance  wrote: 
> I may have discovered something that Ember likes even more than FF. Tiki Cat 
> has two chicken formulas, and she adores both of those. I'm feeding her a 2.8 
> oz can a day, along with as much of a can of a different brand of food as 
> she'll eat. 
> 
> On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:07 AM, Christiane Biagi  wrote:
> 
> > Sometimes, you can mix in a little of another food w. the FF… Just a 
> > little, though—they figure it out and then turn up their noses! LOL


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Re: [Felvtalk] Diarrhea

[dlgegg]

I have tried to switch my pride (6) to a raw diet, they just turn up their 
noses and refuse to touch it. Of course, when I let them outside, they love 
mice, moles and voles.  Funny tho, they never eat the organs, just head, legs 
and skin.  How did you switch yours?  Do you warm it up?  They won't even eat 
canned food unless it is body temperature.  In the meantime, I feed Blue 
Buffalo and Wellness which is better than the commercial stuff.  I had a couple 
getting sick every time they ate from the corn, wheat and soy.  As soon as I 
switched, that went away.

 Tracey Shrout  wrote: 
> Please, try a raw diet for these kitties. I had one felv+ with severe
> diarrhea...went through all the meds and tests...it is the only reason she
> is alive today at 5 years old. Another cat (negative) had bloody diarrhea,
> and went through all the meds as well...it was her cure as well.  They
> don't need meds, they need good quality species-appropriate food!  It works
> almost instantly!  Please look at catinfo.org and catnutrition.org.  I
> could go on and on about the health benefits of raw food, but please check
> out these websites.  There are many commercial foods you can buy or make it
> yourself...its cheaper than taking them to the vet, and it will make them
> feel good.  As I'm sure you know, long term diarrhea is very detrimental to
> their health since their bodies are not absorbing nutrients.  I wish your
> kitties well...Tracey
> 
> On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 5:35 PM,  wrote:
> 
> > This really is not about FeLV+ cats.  I have 2 adult kitties with very
> > bad, long term diarrhea.  Both have no fever, no worms and no parasites.
> > They have both had antibiotics, endosorb, pumpkin, and one has had pro
> > pectilin. These kitties are not related and didn't live in the same place.
> >  The vet seems stumped and now has them both on metronidazole in case of
> >  some type of viral eneritis, they both got a steroid shot to reduce any
> > inflammation. There does not appear to be any improvement in either cat.
> >  Any suggestion would be very welcome.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Gary
> >
> >
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Re: [Felvtalk] "Slightly positive"

[dlgegg]

Adult FELV cats are less of a heartbreak as a lot of times they can live to an 
old age, just scare you every time they get an infection, get off their feed, 
etc.  Annie is one of those, minor things come up, I run to the vet and he 
grins and says "It is just an ordinary runny nose".  Of course, I never know 
for sure until he looks at her.  With Nitnoy, she was just at 1 year, it was 
different.  A coon bit off all but 3-4" of her tail before she got to me, she 
was very small and frightened.  She never felt secure and I think that 
contributed to her early death from compacted anal glands which became 
infected.  I learned.  Now I check everyone's glands at least once a week.  
That is the way it goes, we learn from experience and maybe by the time we die, 
we will know everything there is to know.  In the meantime, we give them love 
and a safe place to live and they give us more love than we know what to do 
with.  
 Lorrie  wrote: 
> Gary,
> 
> Re: your comment on being slightly pregnant, thanks for a much needed 
> chuckle.  Yes, taking in FelV+ cats and kittens is not for everyone. 
> It is usually quite heartbreaking, but Zoloft helps!!
> 
> Lorrie
> 
> On 05-11, gcru...@centurytel.net wrote:
> > Lorrie,
> > 
> > Sorry for your loss.  I also sanctuary FeLV+ cats and find that if it is 
> > contracted as a kitten, at least 70% will pass before their first birthday. 
> > I have one I got when he was about 4 months and he is now almost 5 years 
> > old.  I have a mother and two of her kittens that all tested positive and I 
> > have had them for 4 years.  Just lost a couple I got as adults had them for 
> > 3 and 4 years.  Sometimes they go very quickly and sometimes not.  People 
> > ask me how I can do this, I just say how can I not.  It is definitely not 
> > something for everyone though.
> > 
> > There may still be a bit of controversy about "slight positives" but I 
> > think it is like a pregnancy test, you can't be slightly pregnant.
> > 
> > Gary
> > 
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Re: [Felvtalk] "Slightly positive"

[Lorrie]

Gary,

Re: your comment on being slightly pregnant, thanks for a much needed 
chuckle.  Yes, taking in FelV+ cats and kittens is not for everyone. 
It is usually quite heartbreaking, but Zoloft helps!!

Lorrie

On 05-11, gcru...@centurytel.net wrote:
> Lorrie,
> 
> Sorry for your loss.  I also sanctuary FeLV+ cats and find that if it is 
> contracted as a kitten, at least 70% will pass before their first birthday. 
> I have one I got when he was about 4 months and he is now almost 5 years 
> old.  I have a mother and two of her kittens that all tested positive and I 
> have had them for 4 years.  Just lost a couple I got as adults had them for 
> 3 and 4 years.  Sometimes they go very quickly and sometimes not.  People 
> ask me how I can do this, I just say how can I not.  It is definitely not 
> something for everyone though.
> 
> There may still be a bit of controversy about "slight positives" but I 
> think it is like a pregnancy test, you can't be slightly pregnant.
> 
> Gary
> 

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Re: [Felvtalk] New member from Nebraska

[Lorrie]

Hi Marta,

Unfortuntely euthanasia is the best option in some cases. For example
if the cat who tested positive is a shelter cat.

However there are several of us on this list who have FelV sanctuaries,
and I am one of them. I have lost many kittens who has FelV pos. mothers
but my older FelV cats often live symptom free for many years. For example
I have two FelV + cats who are 5 years old.

Lorrie in WV

On 05-10, Marta Gasper wrote:
>Hello, my name is Marta Gasper. I'm Homeless No More cat rescue
>director in Fairbury, Nebraska.
>One of my foster cats tested FeLV+ on the SNAP and a few months ago
>also positive on the IFA so he became our cat after he developed some
>disorders that'd make him hard to adopt.
>Previously we had a cat pulled from a hoarding situation who also was
>FeLV+ and some time before he succumbed  one of our foster kittens
>tested leuk +._ Our vet concluded he would have been infected when
>younger, he was tested after his uris kept returning; although we are
>no-kill and try to give them the best hospice care sometimes euthanasia
>is the best option.
> 
>Back to Arlo, our former foster, he's been doing fairly well so other
>than being isolated he had no treatment. Last week almost overnight
>stopped eating and bled from his nose, also gagged on and off, making
>gargling, squishy noises. His mouth smells very bad, vet examined and
>said it looked good, mild gingivitis only, he guessed the odor would be
>from further lesions/masses down his throath._ In a few days and
>coincidentally he's developed bald spots that bleed and dark spots on
>his fur. Vet said those were bacterial and fungal infections. Right now
>he's on Clavamox and metacam and is starting to eat again, I suggested
>interferon_we did have a FIV+ with stomatitis and other problems that
>made a remarkable comeback on it_and he agreed to administer it though
>because Arlo has all these symptoms and because he knows we're on a
>limited budget he talked about considering the euthanasia alternative
>as Arlo won't get better.
>I understand but if there's a way to make him better I'd try it, don't
>know how much Interferon is right now etc.
> 
>Question; I've read that some treatments don't work or are not used if
>the cat is past the second stage and/or has lymphoma. I don't know if
>and what cancer he has but he's defintely on 2nd stage..should I even
>try other treatments?
> 
>And another question; we have a nebulizer, can we use it with Arlo,
>what treatments if so? Thank-you and thank-you for this list
>Marta


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Re: [Felvtalk] Diarrhea

[Tracey Shrout]

Please, try a raw diet for these kitties. I had one felv+ with severe
diarrhea...went through all the meds and tests...it is the only reason she
is alive today at 5 years old. Another cat (negative) had bloody diarrhea,
and went through all the meds as well...it was her cure as well.  They
don't need meds, they need good quality species-appropriate food!  It works
almost instantly!  Please look at catinfo.org and catnutrition.org.  I
could go on and on about the health benefits of raw food, but please check
out these websites.  There are many commercial foods you can buy or make it
yourself...its cheaper than taking them to the vet, and it will make them
feel good.  As I'm sure you know, long term diarrhea is very detrimental to
their health since their bodies are not absorbing nutrients.  I wish your
kitties well...Tracey

On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 5:35 PM,  wrote:

> This really is not about FeLV+ cats.  I have 2 adult kitties with very
> bad, long term diarrhea.  Both have no fever, no worms and no parasites.
> They have both had antibiotics, endosorb, pumpkin, and one has had pro
> pectilin. These kitties are not related and didn't live in the same place.
>  The vet seems stumped and now has them both on metronidazole in case of
>  some type of viral eneritis, they both got a steroid shot to reduce any
> inflammation. There does not appear to be any improvement in either cat.
>  Any suggestion would be very welcome.
>
> Thanks,
> Gary
>
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Diarrhea

[Margo]

Hi Gary,

Have they been checked for Trichomonas foetus? That was the first 
thing that came to mind when I read your post. See if this might make sense;

http://www.cvm.ncsu.edu/docs/documents/ownersguide_tfoetus_revised_122009_final.pdf

You might be able to stop the actual diarrhea with loperomide, but 
that's short term and won't eliminate the cause.

Have they ever lived together? Have they been treated for parasites 
even if they don't show up in a fecal? Most worms/parasites only show 
intermittantly, so I always try a course of panacur for diarrhea that doesn't 
self-limit. 

I will think more about it :)

HTH,

Margo




-Original Message-
>From: gcru...@centurytel.net
>Sent: May 11, 2013 5:35 PM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: [Felvtalk] Diarrhea
>
>This really is not about FeLV+ cats.  I have 2 adult kitties with very bad, 
>long term diarrhea.  Both have no fever, no worms and no parasites. They 
>have both had antibiotics, endosorb, pumpkin, and one has had pro pectilin. 
>These kitties are not related and didn't live in the same place.  The vet 
>seems stumped and now has them both on metronidazole in case of  some type 
>of viral eneritis, they both got a steroid shot to reduce any inflammation. 
>There does not appear to be any improvement in either cat.  Any suggestion 
>would be very welcome.
>
>Thanks,
>Gary
>
>
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