Re: [Felvtalk] PETA

2011-02-28 Thread Beth
I don't like PETA either, but the point is made - Check out sanctuaries before 
sending ANY animal there. Something too few people do.

Beth
Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   

--- On Sat, 2/26/11, Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PETA
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Saturday, February 26, 2011, 4:51 PM

I don't think they like flies more than cats, I think they consider all life
equal - a rat is a pig is a dog is a boy so a rat's life, a pig's life,
and a boy's life are all equal in their minds.

Anyway, the point I was trying to make is that PETA made this video.  PETA
is (from how I follow, or attempt to follow, their thinking) against
sanctuaries.  I no longer trust video tape.  I have worked some as an extra
in the television industry and you can put ABSOLUTELY anything in front of a
green screen and make it look real.  I had a friend who had a friend who
worked on animal cops and the friend swears it is all staged - or maybe
mostly staged  - that there may be some issues but nothing like what is
shown.  I don't trust anything  I haven't seen with my OWN eyes and I
certainly am NOT going to trust a PETA video about ANYTHING.

On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote:

 Kelley,  Thanks for reminding us about PETA. I used to give them
 donations, but when I found out what they did to cats I never gave
 them another cent, and I've tried to spread the word about all the
 cats they kill.  I suppose they do some good in other areas, but cats
 certainly get the worst treatment imaginable, and I also agree they
 are nutty as fruit cakes when it comes to flies.. I read about
 the humane fly trap they sent Pres. Obama... How can they
 consider the lives of flies more valuable than the lives of cats!!

 Lorrie

  On 02-25, Kelley Saveika wrote:  As far as the original article
  goes, it was an article by PETA, which I  trust about as far as I
  can kick a plastic grocery bag (not far, have you  ever tried it)?
  PETA operates a shelter with a 97% kill rate and had employees caught
  disposing of animal carcasses in dumpsters after having gone to
  other shelters and gotten the animals out and promised to find them
 homes.
  They  were not charged with cruelty but were fined for illegal dumping or
  something of that nature.
 
  Ingrid Newkirk has advocated killing animals as a means to not having to
  worry about them.
 
  PETA believes we should not have house pets and should just enjoy
  looking at animals from a distance.
 
  They gave President Obama a humane fly trap since they saw him kill
  a fly on TV.
 
  I think they are nutty as fruit cakes.
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] PETA

2011-02-26 Thread Lorrie
Kelley,  Thanks for reminding us about PETA. I used to give them
donations, but when I found out what they did to cats I never gave
them another cent, and I've tried to spread the word about all the
cats they kill.  I suppose they do some good in other areas, but cats
certainly get the worst treatment imaginable, and I also agree they
are nutty as fruit cakes when it comes to flies.. I read about
the humane fly trap they sent Pres. Obama... How can they
consider the lives of flies more valuable than the lives of cats!!

Lorrie

 On 02-25, Kelley Saveika wrote:  As far as the original article
 goes, it was an article by PETA, which I  trust about as far as I
 can kick a plastic grocery bag (not far, have you  ever tried it)?
 PETA operates a shelter with a 97% kill rate and had employees caught 
 disposing of animal carcasses in dumpsters after having gone to
 other shelters and gotten the animals out and promised to find them homes.
 They  were not charged with cruelty but were fined for illegal dumping or
 something of that nature.
 
 Ingrid Newkirk has advocated killing animals as a means to not having to
 worry about them.
 
 PETA believes we should not have house pets and should just enjoy
 looking at animals from a distance.
 
 They gave President Obama a humane fly trap since they saw him kill
 a fly on TV.
 
 I think they are nutty as fruit cakes.
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] PETA

2011-02-26 Thread Gloria Lane
I agree. I do think they serve a useful purpose on other areas. Guess they like 
flies.  But with cats, they're crazy folks.

Gloria


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On Feb 26, 2011, at 7:33 AM, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote:

 Kelley,  Thanks for reminding us about PETA. I used to give them
 donations, but when I found out what they did to cats I never gave
 them another cent, and I've tried to spread the word about all the
 cats they kill.  I suppose they do some good in other areas, but cats
 certainly get the worst treatment imaginable, and I also agree they
 are nutty as fruit cakes when it comes to flies.. I read about
 the humane fly trap they sent Pres. Obama... How can they
 consider the lives of flies more valuable than the lives of cats!!
 
 Lorrie
 
 On 02-25, Kelley Saveika wrote:  As far as the original article
 goes, it was an article by PETA, which I  trust about as far as I
 can kick a plastic grocery bag (not far, have you  ever tried it)?
 PETA operates a shelter with a 97% kill rate and had employees caught 
 disposing of animal carcasses in dumpsters after having gone to
 other shelters and gotten the animals out and promised to find them homes.
 They  were not charged with cruelty but were fined for illegal dumping or
 something of that nature.
 
 Ingrid Newkirk has advocated killing animals as a means to not having to
 worry about them.
 
 PETA believes we should not have house pets and should just enjoy
 looking at animals from a distance.
 
 They gave President Obama a humane fly trap since they saw him kill
 a fly on TV.
 
 I think they are nutty as fruit cakes.
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] PETA

2011-02-26 Thread Kelley Saveika
I don't think they like flies more than cats, I think they consider all life
equal - a rat is a pig is a dog is a boy so a rat's life, a pig's life,
and a boy's life are all equal in their minds.

Anyway, the point I was trying to make is that PETA made this video.  PETA
is (from how I follow, or attempt to follow, their thinking) against
sanctuaries.  I no longer trust video tape.  I have worked some as an extra
in the television industry and you can put ABSOLUTELY anything in front of a
green screen and make it look real.  I had a friend who had a friend who
worked on animal cops and the friend swears it is all staged - or maybe
mostly staged  - that there may be some issues but nothing like what is
shown.  I don't trust anything  I haven't seen with my OWN eyes and I
certainly am NOT going to trust a PETA video about ANYTHING.

On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote:

 Kelley,  Thanks for reminding us about PETA. I used to give them
 donations, but when I found out what they did to cats I never gave
 them another cent, and I've tried to spread the word about all the
 cats they kill.  I suppose they do some good in other areas, but cats
 certainly get the worst treatment imaginable, and I also agree they
 are nutty as fruit cakes when it comes to flies.. I read about
 the humane fly trap they sent Pres. Obama... How can they
 consider the lives of flies more valuable than the lives of cats!!

 Lorrie

  On 02-25, Kelley Saveika wrote:  As far as the original article
  goes, it was an article by PETA, which I  trust about as far as I
  can kick a plastic grocery bag (not far, have you  ever tried it)?
  PETA operates a shelter with a 97% kill rate and had employees caught
  disposing of animal carcasses in dumpsters after having gone to
  other shelters and gotten the animals out and promised to find them
 homes.
  They  were not charged with cruelty but were fined for illegal dumping or
  something of that nature.
 
  Ingrid Newkirk has advocated killing animals as a means to not having to
  worry about them.
 
  PETA believes we should not have house pets and should just enjoy
  looking at animals from a distance.
 
  They gave President Obama a humane fly trap since they saw him kill
  a fly on TV.
 
  I think they are nutty as fruit cakes.
 

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can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they
should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue.

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Re: [Felvtalk] PETA

2011-02-26 Thread dlgegg
I will speak against PETA till the day I die and in the meantime I will pray 
for their change of heart.
 Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com wrote: 
 I don't think they like flies more than cats, I think they consider all life
 equal - a rat is a pig is a dog is a boy so a rat's life, a pig's life,
 and a boy's life are all equal in their minds.
 
 Anyway, the point I was trying to make is that PETA made this video.  PETA
 is (from how I follow, or attempt to follow, their thinking) against
 sanctuaries.  I no longer trust video tape.  I have worked some as an extra
 in the television industry and you can put ABSOLUTELY anything in front of a
 green screen and make it look real.  I had a friend who had a friend who
 worked on animal cops and the friend swears it is all staged - or maybe
 mostly staged  - that there may be some issues but nothing like what is
 shown.  I don't trust anything  I haven't seen with my OWN eyes and I
 certainly am NOT going to trust a PETA video about ANYTHING.
 
 On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote:
 
  Kelley,  Thanks for reminding us about PETA. I used to give them
  donations, but when I found out what they did to cats I never gave
  them another cent, and I've tried to spread the word about all the
  cats they kill.  I suppose they do some good in other areas, but cats
  certainly get the worst treatment imaginable, and I also agree they
  are nutty as fruit cakes when it comes to flies.. I read about
  the humane fly trap they sent Pres. Obama... How can they
  consider the lives of flies more valuable than the lives of cats!!
 
  Lorrie
 
   On 02-25, Kelley Saveika wrote:  As far as the original article
   goes, it was an article by PETA, which I  trust about as far as I
   can kick a plastic grocery bag (not far, have you  ever tried it)?
   PETA operates a shelter with a 97% kill rate and had employees caught
   disposing of animal carcasses in dumpsters after having gone to
   other shelters and gotten the animals out and promised to find them
  homes.
   They  were not charged with cruelty but were fined for illegal dumping or
   something of that nature.
  
   Ingrid Newkirk has advocated killing animals as a means to not having to
   worry about them.
  
   PETA believes we should not have house pets and should just enjoy
   looking at animals from a distance.
  
   They gave President Obama a humane fly trap since they saw him kill
   a fly on TV.
  
   I think they are nutty as fruit cakes.
  
 
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 Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life!
 
 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20
 
 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties*
 
 Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties!
 http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties
 
 Please help Trooper!
 
 http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper
 
 
 And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they
 can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they
 should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Peta Kills Animals

2010-01-07 Thread Debbie Bates

Unfortunately, this does not come as any surprise to me

Debbie 
“Sometimes you have to look reality in the eye and deny it” (Garrison Keillor)



 
 From: ssjew...@bellsouth.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 14:24:09 -0500
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Peta Kills Animals
 
 
 --
 
 PETA Killed 95 Percent of Adoptable Pets in its Care During
 2008
 
 
 --
 
 
 
 This is a rather disturbing story forwarded to me by a vet.
 
 
 
 Hypocritical Animal Rights Group's 2008 Disclosures Bring
 Pet Death Toll To 21,339
 
 
 
 WASHINGTON DC - Today the nonprofit Center for Consumer
 Freedom (CCF) published documents online showing that People
 for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) killed 95
 percent of the adoptable pets in its care during 2008.
 Despite years of public outrage over its euthanasia program,
 the animal rights group kills an average of 5.8 pets every
 day at its Norfolk, VA headquarters.
 
 
 
 According to public records from the Virginia Department of
 Agriculture and Consumer Services, PETA killed 2,124 pets
 last year and placed only seven in adoptive homes. Since
 1998, a total of 21,339 dogs and cats have died at the hands
 of PETA workers.
 
 
 
 Despite having a $32 million budget, PETA does not operate
 an adoption shelter. PETA employees make no discernible
 effort to find homes for the thousands of pets they kill
 every year. Last year, the Center for Consumer Freedom
 petitioned Virginia's State Veterinarian to reclassify PETA
 as a slaughterhouse.
 
 
 
 CCF Research Director David Martosko said: PETA hasn't
 slowed down its hypocritical killing machine one bit, but it
 keeps browbeating the rest of society with a phony 'animal
 rights' 
 
 message. What about the rights of the thousands of dogs,
 cats, puppies, and kittens that die in PETA's headquarters
 building?
 
 
 
 Martosko added: Since killing pets is A-OK with PETA, why
 should anyone listen to their demands about eating meat,
 using lab rats for medical research, or taking children to
 the circus?
 
 
 
 CCF obtained PETA's Animal Record filings since 1998 from
 the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer
 Services. Members of the public can see these documents at
 PetaKillsAnimals.com.
 
 
 
 P.S. Completely disturbing, especially as this appears to be
 a factual story.
 
 
 
 PETA does a TON of marketing and spends untold sums on
 glossy campaigns...perhaps they could spend SOME on Well run
 and well funded animal shelters.
 
 
 
 My advice: Support your local SPCA, Humane Society or Animal
 Shelter ..Do not support PETA
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Peta Kills Animals

2010-01-07 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
Me neither. I believe their goal is that animals should not be subjected to
the tyranny of human ownership, even though Fluffy and Fido are no more
capable of surviving running free than a goldfish (and when they do,
usually have about the same lifespan as one). PETA needs to go back about a
few million years in the evolutionary process and talk to the cavemen and
wolves who buddied up in the first place. 

I'm not saying that all their causes are bogus -- circuses are cruel, the
way we get our meat is unnecessarily brutal, and people should be concerned
about those animals too. But yes, they are deeply hypocritical in their
treatment of animals that have not run free since Man first picked up a
stick and threw it. They have lost sight of what animal welfare and animal
rights really mean.

Diane R. 

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Debbie Bates
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:31 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Peta Kills Animals


Unfortunately, this does not come as any surprise to me

Debbie
Sometimes you have to look reality in the eye and deny it (Garrison
Keillor)



 
 From: ssjew...@bellsouth.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 14:24:09 -0500
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Peta Kills Animals
 
 
 --
 
 PETA Killed 95 Percent of Adoptable Pets in its Care During
 2008
 
 
 --
 
 
 
 This is a rather disturbing story forwarded to me by a vet.
 
 
 
 Hypocritical Animal Rights Group's 2008 Disclosures Bring
 Pet Death Toll To 21,339
 
 
 
 WASHINGTON DC - Today the nonprofit Center for Consumer
 Freedom (CCF) published documents online showing that People
 for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) killed 95
 percent of the adoptable pets in its care during 2008.
 Despite years of public outrage over its euthanasia program,
 the animal rights group kills an average of 5.8 pets every
 day at its Norfolk, VA headquarters.
 
 
 
 According to public records from the Virginia Department of
 Agriculture and Consumer Services, PETA killed 2,124 pets
 last year and placed only seven in adoptive homes. Since
 1998, a total of 21,339 dogs and cats have died at the hands
 of PETA workers.
 
 
 
 Despite having a $32 million budget, PETA does not operate
 an adoption shelter. PETA employees make no discernible
 effort to find homes for the thousands of pets they kill
 every year. Last year, the Center for Consumer Freedom
 petitioned Virginia's State Veterinarian to reclassify PETA
 as a slaughterhouse.
 
 
 
 CCF Research Director David Martosko said: PETA hasn't
 slowed down its hypocritical killing machine one bit, but it
 keeps browbeating the rest of society with a phony 'animal
 rights' 
 
 message. What about the rights of the thousands of dogs,
 cats, puppies, and kittens that die in PETA's headquarters
 building?
 
 
 
 Martosko added: Since killing pets is A-OK with PETA, why
 should anyone listen to their demands about eating meat,
 using lab rats for medical research, or taking children to
 the circus?
 
 
 
 CCF obtained PETA's Animal Record filings since 1998 from
 the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer
 Services. Members of the public can see these documents at
 PetaKillsAnimals.com.
 
 
 
 P.S. Completely disturbing, especially as this appears to be
 a factual story.
 
 
 
 PETA does a TON of marketing and spends untold sums on
 glossy campaigns...perhaps they could spend SOME on Well run
 and well funded animal shelters.
 
 
 
 My advice: Support your local SPCA, Humane Society or Animal
 Shelter ..Do not support PETA
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Peta Kills Animals

2010-01-07 Thread Tower Laboratories Corporation
Well said, Diane.  

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Tower Laboratories Corporation
Manufacturers of Pauling Therapy Formulas for Coronary Heart
Disease Since 1996
http://www.HeartTech.com
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Voice:  502.368.2720; 502.368.2721
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 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-
 boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Diane Rosenfeldt
 Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 2:50 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Peta Kills Animals
 
 Me neither. I believe their goal is that animals should
not be
 subjected to
 the tyranny of human ownership, even though Fluffy and
Fido
 are no more
 capable of surviving running free than a goldfish (and
when
 they do,
 usually have about the same lifespan as one). PETA needs
to go
 back about a
 few million years in the evolutionary process and talk to
the
 cavemen and
 wolves who buddied up in the first place.
 
 I'm not saying that all their causes are bogus -- circuses
are
 cruel, the
 way we get our meat is unnecessarily brutal, and people
should
 be concerned
 about those animals too. But yes, they are deeply
hypocritical in
 their
 treatment of animals that have not run free since Man
first
 picked up a
 stick and threw it. They have lost sight of what animal
welfare
 and animal
 rights really mean.
 
 Diane R.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
 Debbie Bates
 Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:31 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Peta Kills Animals
 
 
 Unfortunately, this does not come as any surprise to
me
 
 Debbie
 Sometimes you have to look reality in the eye and deny
it
 (Garrison
 Keillor)
 
 
 
 
  From: ssjew...@bellsouth.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 14:24:09 -0500
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Peta Kills Animals
 
 

  --
 
  PETA Killed 95 Percent of Adoptable Pets in its Care
During
  2008
 
 

  --
 
 
 
  This is a rather disturbing story forwarded to me by a
vet.
 
 
 
  Hypocritical Animal Rights Group's 2008 Disclosures
Bring
  Pet Death Toll To 21,339
 
 
 
  WASHINGTON DC - Today the nonprofit Center for Consumer
  Freedom (CCF) published documents online showing that
 People
  for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) killed 95
  percent of the adoptable pets in its care during 2008.
  Despite years of public outrage over its euthanasia
program,
  the animal rights group kills an average of 5.8 pets
every
  day at its Norfolk, VA headquarters.
 
 
 
  According to public records from the Virginia Department
of
  Agriculture and Consumer Services, PETA killed 2,124
pets
  last year and placed only seven in adoptive homes. Since
  1998, a total of 21,339 dogs and cats have died at the
hands
  of PETA workers.
 
 
 
  Despite having a $32 million budget, PETA does not
operate
  an adoption shelter. PETA employees make no discernible
  effort to find homes for the thousands of pets they kill
  every year. Last year, the Center for Consumer Freedom
  petitioned Virginia's State Veterinarian to reclassify
PETA
  as a slaughterhouse.
 
 
 
  CCF Research Director David Martosko said: PETA hasn't
  slowed down its hypocritical killing machine one bit,
but it
  keeps browbeating the rest of society with a phony
'animal
  rights'
 
  message. What about the rights of the thousands of dogs,
  cats, puppies, and kittens that die in PETA's
headquarters
  building?
 
 
 
  Martosko added: Since killing pets is A-OK with PETA,
why
  should anyone listen to their demands about eating meat,
  using lab rats for medical research, or taking children
to
  the circus?
 
 
 
  CCF obtained PETA's Animal Record filings since 1998
from
  the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer
  Services. Members of the public can see these documents
at
  PetaKillsAnimals.com.
 
 
 
  P.S. Completely disturbing, especially as this appears
to be
  a factual

Re: [Felvtalk] Peta Kills Animals

2010-01-07 Thread Tower Laboratories Corporation
Well said, Diane.  

Sally Snyder Jewell, Marketing Director
Tower Laboratories Corporation
Manufacturers of Pauling Therapy Formulas for Coronary Heart
Disease Since 1996
http://www.HeartTech.com
E-mail:  sa...@towerlaboratories.com
Toll Free:  1-877-TOWER-LABS (1-877.869.3752) 
Voice:  502.368.2720; 502.368.2721
Fax:  502.368.0019
 
Pauling Therapy Information Web site:
http://www.HeartTech.com 
Pauling Therapy Order Link:
http://www.PaulingTherapyStore.com
 
The products manufactured by Tower Laboratories Corporation,
Inc. are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent
disease in the United States. Without prejudice to the
generality of the contents herein, this message is not meant
nor intended to diagnose, treat, or otherwise mitigate any
health related condition.  This message does not attach any
legal liability onto the originator thereof.  This
communication may also contain information which is
confidential, and therefore privileged.  It is for the
exclusive use of the intended recipient(s).  If you have
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destroy any copies of it.

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-
 boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Diane Rosenfeldt
 Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 2:50 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Peta Kills Animals
 
 Me neither. I believe their goal is that animals should
not be
 subjected to
 the tyranny of human ownership, even though Fluffy and
Fido
 are no more
 capable of surviving running free than a goldfish (and
when
 they do,
 usually have about the same lifespan as one). PETA needs
to go
 back about a
 few million years in the evolutionary process and talk to
the
 cavemen and
 wolves who buddied up in the first place.
 
 I'm not saying that all their causes are bogus -- circuses
are
 cruel, the
 way we get our meat is unnecessarily brutal, and people
should
 be concerned
 about those animals too. But yes, they are deeply
hypocritical in
 their
 treatment of animals that have not run free since Man
first
 picked up a
 stick and threw it. They have lost sight of what animal
welfare
 and animal
 rights really mean.
 
 Diane R.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
 Debbie Bates
 Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:31 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Peta Kills Animals
 
 
 Unfortunately, this does not come as any surprise to
me
 
 Debbie
 Sometimes you have to look reality in the eye and deny
it
 (Garrison
 Keillor)
 
 
 
 
  From: ssjew...@bellsouth.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 14:24:09 -0500
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Peta Kills Animals
 
 

  --
 
  PETA Killed 95 Percent of Adoptable Pets in its Care
During
  2008
 
 

  --
 
 
 
  This is a rather disturbing story forwarded to me by a
vet.
 
 
 
  Hypocritical Animal Rights Group's 2008 Disclosures
Bring
  Pet Death Toll To 21,339
 
 
 
  WASHINGTON DC - Today the nonprofit Center for Consumer
  Freedom (CCF) published documents online showing that
 People
  for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) killed 95
  percent of the adoptable pets in its care during 2008.
  Despite years of public outrage over its euthanasia
program,
  the animal rights group kills an average of 5.8 pets
every
  day at its Norfolk, VA headquarters.
 
 
 
  According to public records from the Virginia Department
of
  Agriculture and Consumer Services, PETA killed 2,124
pets
  last year and placed only seven in adoptive homes. Since
  1998, a total of 21,339 dogs and cats have died at the
hands
  of PETA workers.
 
 
 
  Despite having a $32 million budget, PETA does not
operate
  an adoption shelter. PETA employees make no discernible
  effort to find homes for the thousands of pets they kill
  every year. Last year, the Center for Consumer Freedom
  petitioned Virginia's State Veterinarian to reclassify
PETA
  as a slaughterhouse.
 
 
 
  CCF Research Director David Martosko said: PETA hasn't
  slowed down its hypocritical killing machine one bit,
but it
  keeps browbeating the rest of society with a phony
'animal
  rights'
 
  message. What about the rights of the thousands of dogs,
  cats, puppies, and kittens that die in PETA's
headquarters
  building?
 
 
 
  Martosko added: Since killing pets is A-OK with PETA,
why
  should anyone listen to their demands about eating meat,
  using lab rats for medical research, or taking children
to
  the circus?
 
 
 
  CCF obtained PETA's Animal Record filings since 1998
from
  the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer
  Services. Members of the public can see these documents
at
  PetaKillsAnimals.com.
 
 
 
  P.S. Completely disturbing, especially as this appears
to be
  a factual

Re: [Felvtalk] PETA

2009-12-07 Thread Lorrie
PETA does not object to people having pets (owned pet kept inside).
They object to people feeding strays or ferals.  They round up all
the strays and ferals they can and euthanize them. They also take
cats from animal shelters and euthanize them.

How absolutely infuriating that they ignored your e-mail and had
the audacity to request a donation!


On 12-06, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 i sent my angry email and got a request for money from them.  they
 totally ignored my question.  Diane Rosenfeldt
 drosenfe...@wi.rr.com wrote:

  Aren't they vehemently opposed to any pet ownership at all? But
  I simply don't get why they would consider this treatment
  ethical -- nor how they can justify killing animals by saying
  they're saving them from future suffering that might never
  happen -- and in Sharyl's case, would NOT have happened. These
  people need slapping down.
  
  Diane R.
  

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Re: [Felvtalk] PETA

2009-12-07 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
I understand that feeding ferals without doing anything else for them is
irresponsible. But people who speuter and stabilize feral colonies shouldn't
have to put up with PETA's arrogance. They are never going to make this a
world of all-inside animals, what they should be doing is realizing that
rather than killing animals under the excuse -- and it is just that -- that
they're saving them from some future agony. Yes, the life of an outside
feral can be short, and it hurts me that each and every one doesn't get the
love they should be getting, but they should not be deprived of life just to
fulfill this inflexible agenda. 

I helped trap two feral kittens in August, and tamed them down. At the
moment one is lying 3 feet from me, and the other is on top of the cat tree.
If I were sitting on the couch, one would certainly have come and flopped
into my lap, and the other would be pushing my hand for pets.  They couldn't
be more trusting. It saddens me that PETA is depriving ferals of a chance at
a future nice life with someone willing to put in a few months bonding time,
or even a nice life being regularly fed in a colony, just because THEY think
that all ferals do is suffer and die.

Diane R.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 7:01 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PETA

PETA does not object to people having pets (owned pet kept inside).
They object to people feeding strays or ferals.  They round up all the
strays and ferals they can and euthanize them. They also take cats from
animal shelters and euthanize them.

How absolutely infuriating that they ignored your e-mail and had the
audacity to request a donation!


On 12-06, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 i sent my angry email and got a request for money from them.  they 
 totally ignored my question.  Diane Rosenfeldt 
 drosenfe...@wi.rr.com wrote:

  Aren't they vehemently opposed to any pet ownership at all? But I 
  simply don't get why they would consider this treatment ethical -- 
  nor how they can justify killing animals by saying they're saving 
  them from future suffering that might never happen -- and in 
  Sharyl's case, would NOT have happened. These people need slapping 
  down.
  
  Diane R.
  

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