Re: o/t advice needed
Good news that your father is handling this well and the other problems are working out. Plumbing, etc... problems always come at the most inoportune times. Tell your day you spell it tires now with no y since you're in the u.s. lol. tKerry MacKenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks so much Tonya! (tried to email you directly as sooo o/t but non possibile--apologies to all) My dad is just extraordinary---he has been diagnosed as having stage 4 cancer (terminal; no treatment) but he's carrying on with a more or less normal life...a friend who called me while I was in Scotland to ask how he was was as amazed by my reply as I was after I popped my head out the door: "Well, right now, he's changing tractor tyres"! He's never once complained (and in fact his standard reply when anyone asks how he is, is what it's pretty well been all his life: "no complaints"!). But he's not in denial--he knows exactly the score: he floored me (and I'm sure all of us around the table) when he commented matter-of-factly last week "while I'm still able to eat, I'd really like to taste a lobster". Needless to say my sisters are now all scrabbling to organise a lobster feast. Thanks for the good Danny advice--I hadn't thought of crate--will pass to B. Plumbing pretty well resolved, tho found (in time) another potentially ghastly leak today--fortunately there was already a container in place. Teeth also fixed so I don't scare the horses any more. Well, maybe I do, but not for that reason. Thanks again for your good wishes Tonya! hugs, Kerry - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 9:49 PM Subject: Re: o/t advice neededGosh Kerry! How is your father on top of everything else? I think of you often. As far as the cat spraying, I would recommend she start over and crate the cat for a while so the 2 can get used to each other more gradually. Then let it have a small room like a bathroom, etc. If it sprays it goes back into the crate.. etc Is the cat neutered? Also I'd try the feliway dispensers. And if none of that shows promise I'd try the kitty prozac ( I don't remember what it's called.) Good luck with everything. Plumbing problems suck. I had that blue poly that was recalled at my old house and had several major floods until I replumbed the entire house. tonya
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Any type saw will work with a blade for plastic. The hole may not be pretty but it works/worked fine for my girls and guy. Re the bed -- try spraying the bed with Feliway. Originally it was advertised to stop such behavior. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 10:57 AM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed My vet uses a dremel to cut the openings. I've tried and I'm not too good with a dremel. lol. But since we moved I haven't had any problems with spraying. I guess because there's more room. Sneaker still pees on the bed and sofa though.. ugh. tMarylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Try the 18 quart Rubber maid box or a knock off. They are so high the cat can't overspray. you may need to cut out a small piece for a "doorway" but cut it high to help with the kicking out of litter. They work and, at $4 or so, are a lot cheaper than most litter boxes. The bottoms are not flat but I have no problem cleaning them with a metal scope.If you have men who will exclude any of God's creaturesfrom the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men whowill deal likewise with their fellow man.St. Francis- Original Message - From: "Kerry MacKenzie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 11:38 PMSubject: Re: o/t advice needed> You're right--great value. I bought one of these for Tiger but it was no> good for him--he just went to the end and continued to pee over the side!> Now, for him, I use the highest regular litter box I can get, with lid> (never been able to find *long* one with lid).> - Original Message -> From: "Nina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 7:49 PM> Subject: Re: o/t advice needed>>>> Kerry,>> It sounds like space is an issue for your friend, but I've bought those>> big tubs they sell at Home Depot for mixing small batches of cement to>> use as litterboxes when aversion is a problem. They're really cheap and>> most cats like the added space they afford.>> Nina>>>>>> Marylyn wrote:>>>> > Please tell her the Rubbermaid or generic is a lot less expensive than>> > regular litter boxes.>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition.> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.2/370 - Release Date: 6/20/2006>> No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.5/377 - Release Date: 6/27/2006
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Re: o/t advice needed
My vet uses a dremel to cut the openings. I've tried and I'm not too good with a dremel. lol. But since we moved I haven't had any problems with spraying. I guess because there's more room. Sneaker still pees on the bed and sofa though.. ugh. tMarylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Try the 18 quart Rubber maid box or a knock off. They are so high the cat can't overspray. you may need to cut out a small piece for a "doorway" but cut it high to help with the kicking out of litter. They work and, at $4 or so, are a lot cheaper than most litter boxes. The bottoms are not flat but I have no problem cleaning them with a metal scope.If you have men who will exclude any of God's creaturesfrom the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men whowill deal likewise with their fellow man.St. Francis- Original Message - From: "Kerry MacKenzie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 11:38 PMSubject: Re: o/t advice needed> You're right--great value. I bought one of these for Tiger but it was no> good for him--he just went to the end and continued to pee over the side!> Now, for him, I use the highest regular litter box I can get, with lid> (never been able to find *long* one with lid).> - Original Message -> From: "Nina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 7:49 PM> Subject: Re: o/t advice needed>>>> Kerry,>> It sounds like space is an issue for your friend, but I've bought those>> big tubs they sell at Home Depot for mixing small batches of cement to>> use as litterboxes when aversion is a problem. They're really cheap and>> most cats like the added space they afford.>> Nina>>>>>> Marylyn wrote:>>>> > Please tell her the Rubbermaid or generic is a lot less expensive than>> > regular litter boxes.>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition.> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.2/370 - Release Date: 6/20/2006>>
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What an incredible man your father is! I really admire his courage
and character.
elizabeth
In a message dated 6/25/2006 12:05:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Thanks so much Tonya!
(tried to email you directly as sooo o/t but non
possibile--apologies to all)
My dad is just extraordinary---he has been diagnosed as
having stage 4 cancer (terminal; no treatment) but he's carrying on with a
more or less normal life...a friend who called me while I was in Scotland to
ask how he was was as amazed by my reply as I was after I popped my head
out the door: "Well, right now, he's changing tractor tyres"! He's never once
complained (and in fact his standard reply when anyone asks how he is, is what
it's pretty well been all his life: "no complaints"!). But he's not in
denial--he knows exactly the score: he floored me (and I'm sure all of us
around the table) when he commented matter-of-factly last week "while I'm
still able to eat, I'd really like to taste a lobster".
Needless to say my sisters are now all scrabbling to
organise a lobster feast.
Thanks for the good Danny advice--I hadn't thought of
crate--will pass to B.
Plumbing pretty well resolved, tho found (in time) another
potentially ghastly leak today--fortunately there was already a container in
place. Teeth also fixed so I don't scare the horses any more. Well, maybe I
do, but not for that reason.
Thanks again for your good wishes Tonya!
hugs, Kerry
- Original Message -
From:
catatonya
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 9:49
PM
Subject: Re: o/t advice needed
Gosh Kerry! How is your father on top of everything else? I
think of you often.
As far as the cat spraying, I would recommend she start over and
crate the cat for a while so the 2 can get used to each other more
gradually. Then let it have a small room like a bathroom, etc. If
it sprays it goes back into the crate.. etc Is the cat neutered?
Also I'd try the feliway dispensers. And if none of that shows
promise I'd try the kitty prozac ( I don't remember what it's called.)
Good luck with everything. Plumbing problems suck. I had that
blue poly that was recalled at my old house and had several major floods
until I replumbed the entire house.
tonya
Re: o/t advice needed
Thanks so much Tonya! (tried to email you directly as sooo o/t but non possibile--apologies to all) My dad is just extraordinary---he has been diagnosed as having stage 4 cancer (terminal; no treatment) but he's carrying on with a more or less normal life...a friend who called me while I was in Scotland to ask how he was was as amazed by my reply as I was after I popped my head out the door: "Well, right now, he's changing tractor tyres"! He's never once complained (and in fact his standard reply when anyone asks how he is, is what it's pretty well been all his life: "no complaints"!). But he's not in denial--he knows exactly the score: he floored me (and I'm sure all of us around the table) when he commented matter-of-factly last week "while I'm still able to eat, I'd really like to taste a lobster". Needless to say my sisters are now all scrabbling to organise a lobster feast. Thanks for the good Danny advice--I hadn't thought of crate--will pass to B. Plumbing pretty well resolved, tho found (in time) another potentially ghastly leak today--fortunately there was already a container in place. Teeth also fixed so I don't scare the horses any more. Well, maybe I do, but not for that reason. Thanks again for your good wishes Tonya! hugs, Kerry - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 9:49 PM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed Gosh Kerry! How is your father on top of everything else? I think of you often. As far as the cat spraying, I would recommend she start over and crate the cat for a while so the 2 can get used to each other more gradually. Then let it have a small room like a bathroom, etc. If it sprays it goes back into the crate.. etc Is the cat neutered? Also I'd try the feliway dispensers. And if none of that shows promise I'd try the kitty prozac ( I don't remember what it's called.) Good luck with everything. Plumbing problems suck. I had that blue poly that was recalled at my old house and had several major floods until I replumbed the entire house. tonya
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Gosh Kerry! How is your father on top of everything else? I think of you often. As far as the cat spraying, I would recommend she start over and crate the cat for a while so the 2 can get used to each other more gradually. Then let it have a small room like a bathroom, etc. If it sprays it goes back into the crate.. etc Is the cat neutered? Also I'd try the feliway dispensers. And if none of that shows promise I'd try the kitty prozac ( I don't remember what it's called.) Good luck with everything. Plumbing problems suck. I had that blue poly that was recalled at my old house and had several major floods until I replumbed the entire house. tonyaKerry MacKenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi allI'm just back in the country again after 5 weeks FML, and once again mycondolences go to those of you who have lost beloved furkids, along with myheartfelt wishes to all the sick kitties for a speedy recovery.I've come back to discover a friend, B, throwing her hands up in despairover her new kitty Danny. (Danny had to find a new home as his guardian, aneighbor of B's, entered a nursing home.) B already has one cat that she'shad for 15 years and she was quite concerned about how the two would getalong. B does not have the space to allow them to be introduced slowly sothey were basically thrown together, and now Danny is peeing and sprayingeverywhere it seems.Any tips/advice, you wonderful people? I'm very concerned from what she'ssaid that Danny will soon become homeless again, so I'll be very gratefulfor any advice I can fwd to her. (I would get on the archives and do my ownresearch but I've come back to a plumbing disaster, a friend who I fear maybe on the brink of suicide and now my front tooth has fallen out.)Thanks for all/any help. Love you all. hugs, Kerry
Re: o/t advice needed (catnip, and other good all natural cat products)
I sell GOOD organic catnip... if anyone needs any. It's a good sized bag.. I usually sell them for $5.00 each ($5.50 if paying by paypal, to cover the fees) shipping included. All profits go to my rescue efforts. I also sell Beastie Bands cat collars,the safest, most comfortable cat collars on earth. http://ucat.us/beastiebands/shop.html I hope my posting that isn't against list rules... If anyone knows of any GOOD quality organic and/or all natural cat products, like homeopathies, supplements, etc, that might sale to a buyer wholesale (or at least give me a rescue price break), please let me know, as my friend Janet is re-opening her shop (a fire destroyed her entire business over a year ago) and she's allowing me a space to sell cat stuff to profit my rescue. She only wants good, natural stuff, that is really something she can stand behind. Phaewryn PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.2/373 - Release Date: 6/22/2006
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Even if that doesn't work, you might consider putting out some good quality (not the Wal-Mart type that has been around forever) catnip for both cats. It might mellow them out. Mime have always liked the plants (readily available in the herb sections of most garden centers). You can clip the leaves and dry them too. Places that have bulk herbs usually have catnip too. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: "Kiley Dozier-Bosanko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 6:55 PM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed Kerry, I'm not sure if this will work because Kitty probably isn't as playful as my younger kitties, but it's worth a try. When I was introducing my two kitties I made a toy out of two catnip scented mice tied together with a ribbon. I put the ribbon under a shut door with one cat in each room and one toy on each side. Every time one kitty would grab a mouse it would make the other mouse move. It really helped my cats get used to eachother, without the intimidation of being face to face. If your friend has a toy that she knows kitty really likes, it might be enough to entice her to play and it sounds like Danny is desperate for some feline comanionship. Kiley From: "Kerry MacKenzie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: Subject: Re: o/t advice needed Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 23:33:04 -0500 Thanks Nina!--that's what i wanted to hear before I give B my 2 cents worth (re the boxes). Yes, she has always been very dedicated to Kitty, so i really hope she perseveres with Danny. It was her mention of "giving it a month" that sent shivers down my spine when i got back. And lost me no time in directing the prob to the wonderful list. I hope now that she feels she's getting all this wonderful info and support she'll keep ploughing on. Kerry - Original Message - From: "Nina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 7:22 PM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed > Hey Kerry, > Thank you for keeping us posted on Danny's progress. It does sound > like his new momma is a kind woman and willing to work with him and > "Kitty" in making the transition. I think she's a bit crazy if she's > still being stubborn about not wanting to separate the litter boxes > though! I'd go out and buy three more, (poor Miss Kitty, she shouldn't > have to be nervous about using her litterbox). I've been known to > strewn them all over the house. I've found that if someone is having > accidents, (territorially motivated or not), if I put a litterbox near > the mishap, they end up using it instead of the floor or wall. Tell her > to watch her geriatric Kitty very closely, what a terrible turn of > events that would be if she dashed out the door and something happened > to her before she adjusted to her new brother. > Hugs, > Nina > > Kerry MacKenzie wrote: > > >A big thankyou from my friend re Danny (& Kitty)follows below. > > > > > > -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.2/372 - Release Date: 6/21/2006
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wow, great, novel idea--thanks Kiley! - Original Message - From: "Kiley Dozier-Bosanko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 6:55 PM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed > Kerry, > I'm not sure if this will work because Kitty probably isn't as playful as my > younger kitties, but it's worth a try. When I was introducing my two > kitties I made a toy out of two catnip scented mice tied together with a > ribbon. I put the ribbon under a shut door with one cat in each room and > one toy on each side. Every time one kitty would grab a mouse it would make > the other mouse move. It really helped my cats get used to eachother, > without the intimidation of being face to face. If your friend has a toy > that she knows kitty really likes, it might be enough to entice her to play > and it sounds like Danny is desperate for some feline comanionship. > Kiley
Re: o/t advice needed
Kiley! What a great idea! Thanks I'll be using that one for sure. Nina Kiley Dozier-Bosanko wrote: Kerry, I'm not sure if this will work because Kitty probably isn't as playful as my younger kitties, but it's worth a try. When I was introducing my two kitties I made a toy out of two catnip scented mice tied together with a ribbon. I put the ribbon under a shut door with one cat in each room and one toy on each side. Every time one kitty would grab a mouse it would make the other mouse move. It really helped my cats get used to eachother, without the intimidation of being face to face. If your friend has a toy that she knows kitty really likes, it might be enough to entice her to play and it sounds like Danny is desperate for some feline comanionship. Kiley
Re: o/t advice needed
Kerry, I'm not sure if this will work because Kitty probably isn't as playful as my younger kitties, but it's worth a try. When I was introducing my two kitties I made a toy out of two catnip scented mice tied together with a ribbon. I put the ribbon under a shut door with one cat in each room and one toy on each side. Every time one kitty would grab a mouse it would make the other mouse move. It really helped my cats get used to eachother, without the intimidation of being face to face. If your friend has a toy that she knows kitty really likes, it might be enough to entice her to play and it sounds like Danny is desperate for some feline comanionship. Kiley From: "Kerry MacKenzie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: Subject: Re: o/t advice needed Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 23:33:04 -0500 Thanks Nina!--that's what i wanted to hear before I give B my 2 cents worth (re the boxes). Yes, she has always been very dedicated to Kitty, so i really hope she perseveres with Danny. It was her mention of "giving it a month" that sent shivers down my spine when i got back. And lost me no time in directing the prob to the wonderful list. I hope now that she feels she's getting all this wonderful info and support she'll keep ploughing on. Kerry - Original Message - From: "Nina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 7:22 PM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed > Hey Kerry, > Thank you for keeping us posted on Danny's progress. It does sound > like his new momma is a kind woman and willing to work with him and > "Kitty" in making the transition. I think she's a bit crazy if she's > still being stubborn about not wanting to separate the litter boxes > though! I'd go out and buy three more, (poor Miss Kitty, she shouldn't > have to be nervous about using her litterbox). I've been known to > strewn them all over the house. I've found that if someone is having > accidents, (territorially motivated or not), if I put a litterbox near > the mishap, they end up using it instead of the floor or wall. Tell her > to watch her geriatric Kitty very closely, what a terrible turn of > events that would be if she dashed out the door and something happened > to her before she adjusted to her new brother. > Hugs, > Nina > > Kerry MacKenzie wrote: > > >A big thankyou from my friend re Danny (& Kitty)follows below. > > > > > >
Re: o/t advice needed
Yes, I have experienced this (not liking an enclosed box) some, too. Not all of my cats, but particularly Spaz. For me, having the high walls also encouraged them (the males) to go on ahead and spray even more. My cats have been FAR less likely to spray (except for the Spaz issue) if the box is not near any wall of any kind (hard to do sometimes, for sure!). Kris http://www.spazstory.zoomshare.com - Original Message - From: "Marylyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 2:58 AM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed You can put the lids on but no cat I have had liked having an enclosed litter box. Keeps the odors in and I think makes them feel trapped (many of my cats started life on the streets and that may influence their feelings). If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: "Kerry MacKenzie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 11:34 PM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed Are these lid-less, Marylyn? (She may feel safer with lids) - Original Message - From: "Marylyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 7:38 PM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed Please tell her the Rubbermaid or generic is a lot less expensive than regular litter boxes. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: "Nina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 7:22 PM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed > Hey Kerry, > Thank you for keeping us posted on Danny's progress. It does sound like > his new momma is a kind woman and willing to work with him and "Kitty" in > making the transition. I think she's a bit crazy if she's still being > stubborn about not wanting to separate the litter boxes though! I'd > go > out and buy three more, (poor Miss Kitty, she shouldn't have to be nervous > about using her litterbox). I've been known to strewn them all over > the > house. I've found that if someone is having accidents, (territorially > motivated or not), if I put a litterbox near the mishap, they end up using > it instead of the floor or wall. Tell her to watch her geriatric > Kitty > very closely, what a terrible turn of events that would be if she > dashed > out the door and something happened to her before she adjusted to her new > brother. > Hugs, > Nina > > Kerry MacKenzie wrote: > >>A big thankyou from my friend re Danny (& Kitty)follows below. >> > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.2/370 - Release Date: > 6/20/2006 > > -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.2/370 - Release Date: 6/20/2006
Re: o/t advice needed
Try the 18 quart Rubber maid box or a knock off. They are so high the cat can't overspray. you may need to cut out a small piece for a "doorway" but cut it high to help with the kicking out of litter. They work and, at $4 or so, are a lot cheaper than most litter boxes. The bottoms are not flat but I have no problem cleaning them with a metal scope. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: "Kerry MacKenzie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 11:38 PM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed You're right--great value. I bought one of these for Tiger but it was no good for him--he just went to the end and continued to pee over the side! Now, for him, I use the highest regular litter box I can get, with lid (never been able to find *long* one with lid). - Original Message - From: "Nina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 7:49 PM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed Kerry, It sounds like space is an issue for your friend, but I've bought those big tubs they sell at Home Depot for mixing small batches of cement to use as litterboxes when aversion is a problem. They're really cheap and most cats like the added space they afford. Nina Marylyn wrote: > Please tell her the Rubbermaid or generic is a lot less expensive than > regular litter boxes. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.2/370 - Release Date: 6/20/2006
Re: o/t advice needed
You can put the lids on but no cat I have had liked having an enclosed litter box. Keeps the odors in and I think makes them feel trapped (many of my cats started life on the streets and that may influence their feelings). If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: "Kerry MacKenzie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 11:34 PM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed Are these lid-less, Marylyn? (She may feel safer with lids) - Original Message - From: "Marylyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 7:38 PM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed Please tell her the Rubbermaid or generic is a lot less expensive than regular litter boxes. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: "Nina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 7:22 PM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed > Hey Kerry, > Thank you for keeping us posted on Danny's progress. It does sound like > his new momma is a kind woman and willing to work with him and "Kitty" in > making the transition. I think she's a bit crazy if she's still being > stubborn about not wanting to separate the litter boxes though! I'd go > out and buy three more, (poor Miss Kitty, she shouldn't have to be nervous > about using her litterbox). I've been known to strewn them all over > the > house. I've found that if someone is having accidents, (territorially > motivated or not), if I put a litterbox near the mishap, they end up using > it instead of the floor or wall. Tell her to watch her geriatric Kitty > very closely, what a terrible turn of events that would be if she > dashed > out the door and something happened to her before she adjusted to her new > brother. > Hugs, > Nina > > Kerry MacKenzie wrote: > >>A big thankyou from my friend re Danny (& Kitty)follows below. >> > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.2/370 - Release Date: > 6/20/2006 > > -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.2/370 - Release Date: 6/20/2006
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I may have misread but I thought I saw that a litter box and food was in the same room for Kitty. In either case, cats don't like to eat too close to a litter box (would you want to eat close to an outhouse??) My Kitty had to adjust when Dixie Louise moved in. They work it out. Luckily both of them have excellent manners. I agree with the post using containers for mixing cement or anything that adds space to a litter box. That is why I use the Rubber Maid boxes (plus the height which is very helpful with older or male cats). I haven't seen the cement boxes but will check them out. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: "Kerry MacKenzie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 11:27 PM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed thank you thank you again Marylyn. A Q-- Kitty may not like her litter box in the same area as her litter box unless this has always been the setup<< did you mean as "Danny's litter box" (Danny only arived a couple of weeks ago)---just want to clarify before I fwd to B! thanks, Kerry - Original Message - From: "Marylyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 6:08 PM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed I would put the litter boxes as far away from each other as possible. Kitty may not like her litter box in the same area as her litter box unless this has always been the setup. I strongly urge the use of Feliway. Some of the larger stores carry it and a lot of vets do. I have never had any luck with the kind you plug in, just the spray on. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: "Kerry MacKenzie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 5:41 PM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed >A big thankyou from my friend re Danny (& Kitty)follows below. > Also a rundown of what she's now doing (but before she got the latest tips > from you wonderful people). > D'you think she really *should* be putting each litterbox in a > different > room. (It also sounds like she still has just the 2 boxes.) > Many thanks to everyone again. > Kerry > > > Hi Kerry, > > Would you please send everyone my heartfelt THANKS for all the good > advice?! > This is wonderful. > > So far I've done > Separate litterboxes; Rescue Remedy in his water and a drop on his paw; 15 > minutes of play time every night; sitting with him and reading or watching > TV; he is starting to respond to my calling his name. He also knows when > he's NOT supposed to do something when I say his name, like jumping on the > dining table. Danny has claimed the living room and has his own dark, > quiet > corner between the couch and book shelf, lined with a catnip mat, where he > can cuddle and feel safe; he's VERY curious and has checked out every inch > of my apartment so far, likes to sit in the living room windows and watch > the birds. He is starting to get a hang of our routine - meowing for food > when I get up in the morning, petting time when I do exercise in the > living > room in the morning (this time is just for him). Meowing for treats > and > food when I get home from work. > > Kitty gets lots of attention, sleeps with me and I make sure to talk to > her > as much as possible. I try to keep as much of our old routine as possible. > She get holistic animal medical drops "Jealousy" in her water. She has > retreated into the bedroom 90% of the time and I make a point to bring her > into the kitchen with me for interaction, so I can spend more time with > her. > She is very nervous and anxious and will absolutely not let Danny near her > (she has never allowed any other cat near her). If Danny comes near, she > gets very aggressive, growls and the chases him away, screeching. > Danny > is > confused by this. He wants to make contact and, I think, play. She is > afraid to use her litterbox because Danny is around. I will not put > her > litterbox and food in the bedroom because
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You're right--great value. I bought one of these for Tiger but it was no good for him--he just went to the end and continued to pee over the side! Now, for him, I use the highest regular litter box I can get, with lid (never been able to find *long* one with lid). - Original Message - From: "Nina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 7:49 PM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed > Kerry, > It sounds like space is an issue for your friend, but I've bought those > big tubs they sell at Home Depot for mixing small batches of cement to > use as litterboxes when aversion is a problem. They're really cheap and > most cats like the added space they afford. > Nina > > > Marylyn wrote: > > > Please tell her the Rubbermaid or generic is a lot less expensive than > > regular litter boxes. > > >
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Thanks Kris--B will also be much encouraged by your email--problem sounds pretty similar! - Original Message - From: "gwork" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 10:37 PM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed > My house is divided into two parts because I have two cats that just will > not get along. To make a long story short, I finally realized that whenever > the other 4 cats were in our bedroom sleeping and I let Spaz or Gizmo into > the "other" part of the house, Spaz was using their litter boxes. Every > single time this would happen, it would initiate a round of spraying from > one or two of the others. However, they did mostly limit their spraying to > the litter box area, so Danny's sounds different, but my opinion is it > couldn't hurt, at least for the time being. They can feel threatened if > they have to share, especially when Kitty is reacting this way to Danny. If > she was more accepting, none of this would probably be happening. It is > very similar to what I went through with Gizmo and Motley. Oh, also, when we > were still trying to get those two to get along, it got so bad that Gizmo > was terrified to go anywhere at all in the house, and would stay on top of > the cupboard until she simply couldn't stand it any longer, go to the > nearest rug, and relieve herself of diarrhea from waiting so long. It took > me a little bit to figure out what was going on (I thought Spaz was having > bowel problems at first), but obviously, after that, I knew I had to > separate them. At that time, though, I did not know about all these other > helpful products, so that could've made a difference. Anyway, I give your > friend much credit for making this much of an effort and trying. I hope it > will settle down soon. > > Kris > http://www.spazstory.zoomshare.com > - Original Message - > From: "Kerry MacKenzie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 6:41 PM > Subject: Re: o/t advice needed > > > >A big thankyou from my friend re Danny (& Kitty)follows below. > > Also a rundown of what she's now doing (but before she got the latest tips > > from you wonderful people). > > D'you think she really *should* be putting each litterbox in a different > > room. (It also sounds like she still has just the 2 boxes.) > > Many thanks to everyone again. > > Kerry > > > > > > Hi Kerry, > > > > Would you please send everyone my heartfelt THANKS for all the good > > advice?! > > This is wonderful. > > > > So far I've done > > Separate litterboxes; Rescue Remedy in his water and a drop on his paw; 15 > > minutes of play time every night; sitting with him and reading or watching > > TV; he is starting to respond to my calling his name. He also knows when > > he's NOT supposed to do something when I say his name, like jumping on the > > dining table. Danny has claimed the living room and has his own dark, > > quiet > > corner between the couch and book shelf, lined with a catnip mat, where he > > can cuddle and feel safe; he's VERY curious and has checked out every inch > > of my apartment so far, likes to sit in the living room windows and watch > > the birds. He is starting to get a hang of our routine - meowing for food > > when I get up in the morning, petting time when I do exercise in the > > living > > room in the morning (this time is just for him). Meowing for treats and > > food when I get home from work. > > > > Kitty gets lots of attention, sleeps with me and I make sure to talk to > > her > > as much as possible. I try to keep as much of our old routine as possible. > > She get holistic animal medical drops "Jealousy" in her water. She has > > retreated into the bedroom 90% of the time and I make a point to bring her > > into the kitchen with me for interaction, so I can spend more time with > > her. > > She is very nervous and anxious and will absolutely not let Danny near her > > (she has never allowed any other cat near her). If Danny comes near, she > > gets very aggressive, growls and the chases him away, screeching. Danny > > is > > confused by this. He wants to make contact and, I think, play. She is > > afraid to use her litterbox because Danny is around. I will not put her > > litterbox and food in the bedroom because I don't want to separate > > everything! Kitty has NEVER wanted to go outside and now she constantly > > tries to run out the back door when I'm going out to water the plants. > > Seems like she does not want to be in the same place as Danny. > > > > I will use the other tips and hope Danny will stop peeing and spraying. > > He > > also started to pee in the bathroom and now on the kitchen floor (just > > found > > it yesterday). > > > > Keep my fingers crossed that it will get better soon! > > B > > > > > > > > > > > >
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Hmm...I must try that myself (for Tiger--who still has his not infrequent moments)! - Original Message - From: "gwork" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 11:17 PM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed > Yes, my mother has also had good experience with placing a litter box near > the mishap, as well. > > Kris > http://www.spazstory.zoomshare.com > - Original Message - > From: "Nina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 8:22 PM > Subject: Re: o/t advice needed > > > > Hey Kerry, > > Thank you for keeping us posted on Danny's progress. It does sound like > > his new momma is a kind woman and willing to work with him and "Kitty" in > > making the transition. I think she's a bit crazy if she's still being > > stubborn about not wanting to separate the litter boxes though! I'd go > > out and buy three more, (poor Miss Kitty, she shouldn't have to be nervous > > about using her litterbox). I've been known to strewn them all over the > > house. I've found that if someone is having accidents, (territorially > > motivated or not), if I put a litterbox near the mishap, they end up using > > it instead of the floor or wall. Tell her to watch her geriatric Kitty > > very closely, what a terrible turn of events that would be if she dashed > > out the door and something happened to her before she adjusted to her new > > brother. > > Hugs, > > Nina > > > > Kerry MacKenzie wrote: > > > >>A big thankyou from my friend re Danny (& Kitty)follows below. > >> > > > > > > > >
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Thanks Nina!--that's what i wanted to hear before I give B my 2 cents worth (re the boxes). Yes, she has always been very dedicated to Kitty, so i really hope she perseveres with Danny. It was her mention of "giving it a month" that sent shivers down my spine when i got back. And lost me no time in directing the prob to the wonderful list. I hope now that she feels she's getting all this wonderful info and support she'll keep ploughing on. Kerry - Original Message - From: "Nina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 7:22 PM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed > Hey Kerry, > Thank you for keeping us posted on Danny's progress. It does sound > like his new momma is a kind woman and willing to work with him and > "Kitty" in making the transition. I think she's a bit crazy if she's > still being stubborn about not wanting to separate the litter boxes > though! I'd go out and buy three more, (poor Miss Kitty, she shouldn't > have to be nervous about using her litterbox). I've been known to > strewn them all over the house. I've found that if someone is having > accidents, (territorially motivated or not), if I put a litterbox near > the mishap, they end up using it instead of the floor or wall. Tell her > to watch her geriatric Kitty very closely, what a terrible turn of > events that would be if she dashed out the door and something happened > to her before she adjusted to her new brother. > Hugs, > Nina > > Kerry MacKenzie wrote: > > >A big thankyou from my friend re Danny (& Kitty)follows below. > > > > > >
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thank you thank you again Marylyn. A Q-- >>Kitty may not like her litter box in the same area as her litter box unless this has always been the setup<< did you mean as "Danny's litter box" (Danny only arived a couple of weeks ago)---just want to clarify before I fwd to B! thanks, Kerry - Original Message - From: "Marylyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 6:08 PM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed > I would put the litter boxes as far away from each other as possible. Kitty > may not like her litter box in the same area as her litter box unless this > has always been the setup. I strongly urge the use of Feliway. Some of the > larger stores carry it and a lot of vets do. I have never had any luck with > the kind you plug in, just the spray on. > > > > > > > > > If you have men who will > exclude any of God's creatures > from the shelter of > compassion and pity, you will have men who > will deal likewise with > their fellow man. > St. > Francis > - Original Message ----- > From: "Kerry MacKenzie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 5:41 PM > Subject: Re: o/t advice needed > > > >A big thankyou from my friend re Danny (& Kitty)follows below. > > Also a rundown of what she's now doing (but before she got the latest tips > > from you wonderful people). > > D'you think she really *should* be putting each litterbox in a different > > room. (It also sounds like she still has just the 2 boxes.) > > Many thanks to everyone again. > > Kerry > > > > > > Hi Kerry, > > > > Would you please send everyone my heartfelt THANKS for all the good > > advice?! > > This is wonderful. > > > > So far I've done > > Separate litterboxes; Rescue Remedy in his water and a drop on his paw; 15 > > minutes of play time every night; sitting with him and reading or watching > > TV; he is starting to respond to my calling his name. He also knows when > > he's NOT supposed to do something when I say his name, like jumping on the > > dining table. Danny has claimed the living room and has his own dark, > > quiet > > corner between the couch and book shelf, lined with a catnip mat, where he > > can cuddle and feel safe; he's VERY curious and has checked out every inch > > of my apartment so far, likes to sit in the living room windows and watch > > the birds. He is starting to get a hang of our routine - meowing for food > > when I get up in the morning, petting time when I do exercise in the > > living > > room in the morning (this time is just for him). Meowing for treats and > > food when I get home from work. > > > > Kitty gets lots of attention, sleeps with me and I make sure to talk to > > her > > as much as possible. I try to keep as much of our old routine as possible. > > She get holistic animal medical drops "Jealousy" in her water. She has > > retreated into the bedroom 90% of the time and I make a point to bring her > > into the kitchen with me for interaction, so I can spend more time with > > her. > > She is very nervous and anxious and will absolutely not let Danny near her > > (she has never allowed any other cat near her). If Danny comes near, she > > gets very aggressive, growls and the chases him away, screeching. Danny > > is > > confused by this. He wants to make contact and, I think, play. She is > > afraid to use her litterbox because Danny is around. I will not put her > > litterbox and food in the bedroom because I don't want to separate > > everything! Kitty has NEVER wanted to go outside and now she constantly > > tries to run out the back door when I'm going out to water the plants. > > Seems like she does not want to be in the same place as Danny. > > > > I will use the other tips and hope Danny will stop peeing and spraying. > > He > > also started to pee in the bathroom and now on the kitchen floor (just > > found > > it yesterday). > > > > Keep my fingers crossed that it will get better soon! > > B > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.2/370 - Release Date: 6/20/2006 > > > > > >
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Are these lid-less, Marylyn? (She may feel safer with lids) - Original Message - From: "Marylyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 7:38 PM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed > Please tell her the Rubbermaid or generic is a lot less expensive than > regular litter boxes. > > > > > > > If you have men who will > exclude any of God's creatures > from the shelter of > compassion and pity, you will have men who > will deal likewise with > their fellow man. > St. > Francis > - Original Message - > From: "Nina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 7:22 PM > Subject: Re: o/t advice needed > > > > Hey Kerry, > > Thank you for keeping us posted on Danny's progress. It does sound like > > his new momma is a kind woman and willing to work with him and "Kitty" in > > making the transition. I think she's a bit crazy if she's still being > > stubborn about not wanting to separate the litter boxes though! I'd go > > out and buy three more, (poor Miss Kitty, she shouldn't have to be nervous > > about using her litterbox). I've been known to strewn them all over the > > house. I've found that if someone is having accidents, (territorially > > motivated or not), if I put a litterbox near the mishap, they end up using > > it instead of the floor or wall. Tell her to watch her geriatric Kitty > > very closely, what a terrible turn of events that would be if she dashed > > out the door and something happened to her before she adjusted to her new > > brother. > > Hugs, > > Nina > > > > Kerry MacKenzie wrote: > > > >>A big thankyou from my friend re Danny (& Kitty)follows below. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.2/370 - Release Date: 6/20/2006 > > > > > >
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Yes, my mother has also had good experience with placing a litter box near the mishap, as well. Kris http://www.spazstory.zoomshare.com - Original Message - From: "Nina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 8:22 PM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed Hey Kerry, Thank you for keeping us posted on Danny's progress. It does sound like his new momma is a kind woman and willing to work with him and "Kitty" in making the transition. I think she's a bit crazy if she's still being stubborn about not wanting to separate the litter boxes though! I'd go out and buy three more, (poor Miss Kitty, she shouldn't have to be nervous about using her litterbox). I've been known to strewn them all over the house. I've found that if someone is having accidents, (territorially motivated or not), if I put a litterbox near the mishap, they end up using it instead of the floor or wall. Tell her to watch her geriatric Kitty very closely, what a terrible turn of events that would be if she dashed out the door and something happened to her before she adjusted to her new brother. Hugs, Nina Kerry MacKenzie wrote: A big thankyou from my friend re Danny (& Kitty)follows below.
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My house is divided into two parts because I have two cats that just will not get along. To make a long story short, I finally realized that whenever the other 4 cats were in our bedroom sleeping and I let Spaz or Gizmo into the "other" part of the house, Spaz was using their litter boxes. Every single time this would happen, it would initiate a round of spraying from one or two of the others. However, they did mostly limit their spraying to the litter box area, so Danny's sounds different, but my opinion is it couldn't hurt, at least for the time being. They can feel threatened if they have to share, especially when Kitty is reacting this way to Danny. If she was more accepting, none of this would probably be happening. It is very similar to what I went through with Gizmo and Motley. Oh, also, when we were still trying to get those two to get along, it got so bad that Gizmo was terrified to go anywhere at all in the house, and would stay on top of the cupboard until she simply couldn't stand it any longer, go to the nearest rug, and relieve herself of diarrhea from waiting so long. It took me a little bit to figure out what was going on (I thought Spaz was having bowel problems at first), but obviously, after that, I knew I had to separate them. At that time, though, I did not know about all these other helpful products, so that could've made a difference. Anyway, I give your friend much credit for making this much of an effort and trying. I hope it will settle down soon. Kris http://www.spazstory.zoomshare.com - Original Message - From: "Kerry MacKenzie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 6:41 PM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed A big thankyou from my friend re Danny (& Kitty)follows below. Also a rundown of what she's now doing (but before she got the latest tips from you wonderful people). D'you think she really *should* be putting each litterbox in a different room. (It also sounds like she still has just the 2 boxes.) Many thanks to everyone again. Kerry Hi Kerry, Would you please send everyone my heartfelt THANKS for all the good advice?! This is wonderful. So far I've done Separate litterboxes; Rescue Remedy in his water and a drop on his paw; 15 minutes of play time every night; sitting with him and reading or watching TV; he is starting to respond to my calling his name. He also knows when he's NOT supposed to do something when I say his name, like jumping on the dining table. Danny has claimed the living room and has his own dark, quiet corner between the couch and book shelf, lined with a catnip mat, where he can cuddle and feel safe; he's VERY curious and has checked out every inch of my apartment so far, likes to sit in the living room windows and watch the birds. He is starting to get a hang of our routine - meowing for food when I get up in the morning, petting time when I do exercise in the living room in the morning (this time is just for him). Meowing for treats and food when I get home from work. Kitty gets lots of attention, sleeps with me and I make sure to talk to her as much as possible. I try to keep as much of our old routine as possible. She get holistic animal medical drops "Jealousy" in her water. She has retreated into the bedroom 90% of the time and I make a point to bring her into the kitchen with me for interaction, so I can spend more time with her. She is very nervous and anxious and will absolutely not let Danny near her (she has never allowed any other cat near her). If Danny comes near, she gets very aggressive, growls and the chases him away, screeching. Danny is confused by this. He wants to make contact and, I think, play. She is afraid to use her litterbox because Danny is around. I will not put her litterbox and food in the bedroom because I don't want to separate everything! Kitty has NEVER wanted to go outside and now she constantly tries to run out the back door when I'm going out to water the plants. Seems like she does not want to be in the same place as Danny. I will use the other tips and hope Danny will stop peeing and spraying. He also started to pee in the bathroom and now on the kitchen floor (just found it yesterday). Keep my fingers crossed that it will get better soon! B
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Kerry, It sounds like space is an issue for your friend, but I've bought those big tubs they sell at Home Depot for mixing small batches of cement to use as litterboxes when aversion is a problem. They're really cheap and most cats like the added space they afford. Nina Marylyn wrote: Please tell her the Rubbermaid or generic is a lot less expensive than regular litter boxes.
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Please tell her the Rubbermaid or generic is a lot less expensive than regular litter boxes. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: "Nina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 7:22 PM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed Hey Kerry, Thank you for keeping us posted on Danny's progress. It does sound like his new momma is a kind woman and willing to work with him and "Kitty" in making the transition. I think she's a bit crazy if she's still being stubborn about not wanting to separate the litter boxes though! I'd go out and buy three more, (poor Miss Kitty, she shouldn't have to be nervous about using her litterbox). I've been known to strewn them all over the house. I've found that if someone is having accidents, (territorially motivated or not), if I put a litterbox near the mishap, they end up using it instead of the floor or wall. Tell her to watch her geriatric Kitty very closely, what a terrible turn of events that would be if she dashed out the door and something happened to her before she adjusted to her new brother. Hugs, Nina Kerry MacKenzie wrote: A big thankyou from my friend re Danny (& Kitty)follows below. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.2/370 - Release Date: 6/20/2006
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Hey Kerry, Thank you for keeping us posted on Danny's progress. It does sound like his new momma is a kind woman and willing to work with him and "Kitty" in making the transition. I think she's a bit crazy if she's still being stubborn about not wanting to separate the litter boxes though! I'd go out and buy three more, (poor Miss Kitty, she shouldn't have to be nervous about using her litterbox). I've been known to strewn them all over the house. I've found that if someone is having accidents, (territorially motivated or not), if I put a litterbox near the mishap, they end up using it instead of the floor or wall. Tell her to watch her geriatric Kitty very closely, what a terrible turn of events that would be if she dashed out the door and something happened to her before she adjusted to her new brother. Hugs, Nina Kerry MacKenzie wrote: A big thankyou from my friend re Danny (& Kitty)follows below.
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I would put the litter boxes as far away from each other as possible. Kitty may not like her litter box in the same area as her litter box unless this has always been the setup. I strongly urge the use of Feliway. Some of the larger stores carry it and a lot of vets do. I have never had any luck with the kind you plug in, just the spray on. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: "Kerry MacKenzie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 5:41 PM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed A big thankyou from my friend re Danny (& Kitty)follows below. Also a rundown of what she's now doing (but before she got the latest tips from you wonderful people). D'you think she really *should* be putting each litterbox in a different room. (It also sounds like she still has just the 2 boxes.) Many thanks to everyone again. Kerry Hi Kerry, Would you please send everyone my heartfelt THANKS for all the good advice?! This is wonderful. So far I've done Separate litterboxes; Rescue Remedy in his water and a drop on his paw; 15 minutes of play time every night; sitting with him and reading or watching TV; he is starting to respond to my calling his name. He also knows when he's NOT supposed to do something when I say his name, like jumping on the dining table. Danny has claimed the living room and has his own dark, quiet corner between the couch and book shelf, lined with a catnip mat, where he can cuddle and feel safe; he's VERY curious and has checked out every inch of my apartment so far, likes to sit in the living room windows and watch the birds. He is starting to get a hang of our routine - meowing for food when I get up in the morning, petting time when I do exercise in the living room in the morning (this time is just for him). Meowing for treats and food when I get home from work. Kitty gets lots of attention, sleeps with me and I make sure to talk to her as much as possible. I try to keep as much of our old routine as possible. She get holistic animal medical drops "Jealousy" in her water. She has retreated into the bedroom 90% of the time and I make a point to bring her into the kitchen with me for interaction, so I can spend more time with her. She is very nervous and anxious and will absolutely not let Danny near her (she has never allowed any other cat near her). If Danny comes near, she gets very aggressive, growls and the chases him away, screeching. Danny is confused by this. He wants to make contact and, I think, play. She is afraid to use her litterbox because Danny is around. I will not put her litterbox and food in the bedroom because I don't want to separate everything! Kitty has NEVER wanted to go outside and now she constantly tries to run out the back door when I'm going out to water the plants. Seems like she does not want to be in the same place as Danny. I will use the other tips and hope Danny will stop peeing and spraying. He also started to pee in the bathroom and now on the kitchen floor (just found it yesterday). Keep my fingers crossed that it will get better soon! B -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.2/370 - Release Date: 6/20/2006
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A big thankyou from my friend re Danny (& Kitty)follows below. Also a rundown of what she's now doing (but before she got the latest tips from you wonderful people). D'you think she really *should* be putting each litterbox in a different room. (It also sounds like she still has just the 2 boxes.) Many thanks to everyone again. Kerry Hi Kerry, Would you please send everyone my heartfelt THANKS for all the good advice?! This is wonderful. So far I've done Separate litterboxes; Rescue Remedy in his water and a drop on his paw; 15 minutes of play time every night; sitting with him and reading or watching TV; he is starting to respond to my calling his name. He also knows when he's NOT supposed to do something when I say his name, like jumping on the dining table. Danny has claimed the living room and has his own dark, quiet corner between the couch and book shelf, lined with a catnip mat, where he can cuddle and feel safe; he's VERY curious and has checked out every inch of my apartment so far, likes to sit in the living room windows and watch the birds. He is starting to get a hang of our routine - meowing for food when I get up in the morning, petting time when I do exercise in the living room in the morning (this time is just for him). Meowing for treats and food when I get home from work. Kitty gets lots of attention, sleeps with me and I make sure to talk to her as much as possible. I try to keep as much of our old routine as possible. She get holistic animal medical drops "Jealousy" in her water. She has retreated into the bedroom 90% of the time and I make a point to bring her into the kitchen with me for interaction, so I can spend more time with her. She is very nervous and anxious and will absolutely not let Danny near her (she has never allowed any other cat near her). If Danny comes near, she gets very aggressive, growls and the chases him away, screeching. Danny is confused by this. He wants to make contact and, I think, play. She is afraid to use her litterbox because Danny is around. I will not put her litterbox and food in the bedroom because I don't want to separate everything! Kitty has NEVER wanted to go outside and now she constantly tries to run out the back door when I'm going out to water the plants. Seems like she does not want to be in the same place as Danny. I will use the other tips and hope Danny will stop peeing and spraying. He also started to pee in the bathroom and now on the kitchen floor (just found it yesterday). Keep my fingers crossed that it will get better soon! B
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I wish the nursing homes could take pets, too, but it all comes down to money, unfortunately. Kris http://www.spazstory.zoomshare.com - Original Message - From: "Kerry MacKenzie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 1:38 AM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed Thanks Marylyn. Have passed on all yr great advice. Will let you all know how things go. Yes, both cats are very very confused right now. But I feel most for poor Danny. It makes me so mad that nursing homes don't take pets. (I believe a rare few do.) - Original Message - From: "Marylyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 1:47 AM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed My first thought is to try Feliway spray. It helps a lot. Then put Rescue Remedy in their water. Wash down every place Danny has peed with Odo Ban. He is just trying to claim some space for himself. Can you imagine how awful and abandoned he feels? How very alone? He doesn't understand what has happened to his person and why he is in this situation and whether it is a home for life or he will be thrown out again He is very confused and very frightened.The Odo Ban is the only product I have found that really works on cat urine. Make sure there are at least two litter boxes. Since Danny is spraying I would suggest getting 18 gallon Rubbermaid boxes and cutting a "doorway" in it so Danny has plenty of high walls to spray. Don't put the lid on it though. Make sure each cat is getting attention separately and has his own food bowl. Given the stress this has to be putting on your friend and Danny's predicament I should seriously consider getting some valium from my vet for Danny and see it that helps. Danny needs a special place of his own to hide. Again, if there is little space, try a Rubbermaid container, this time with the lid on it. Cut a cat size hole near the end of one long side and high. The objective is to give the cat as much dark, safe space inside the box as possible. By cutting the hole about midway up the box and toward the end you maximize that space. Put in hay, shredded newspaper...something Danny can bury in and feel safe in (again spray the box and contents with Feliway). Other ideas are to consult an Animal Communicator and a holistic vet as well as a regular vet. It is possible that all the stress Danny is under may have led to a UTI. A vet checkup is not a bad idea. Make sure your friend remembers her original cat and the stress that cat is under too. Some of the above may help it. Good luck. It sounds like you can use some. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: "Kerry MacKenzie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 8:55 PM Subject: o/t advice needed > Hi all > I'm just back in the country again after 5 weeks FML, and once again my > condolences go to those of you who have lost beloved furkids, along > with > my > heartfelt wishes to all the sick kitties for a speedy recovery. > I've come back to discover a friend, B, throwing her hands up in despair > over her new kitty Danny. (Danny had to find a new home as his > guardian, a > neighbor of B's, entered a nursing home.) B already has one cat that she's > had for 15 years and she was quite concerned about how the two would > get > along. B does not have the space to allow them to be introduced slowly so > they were basically thrown together, and now Danny is peeing and spraying > everywhere it seems. > Any tips/advice, you wonderful people? I'm very concerned from what she's > said that Danny will soon become homeless again, so I'll be very grateful > for any advice I can fwd to her. (I would get on the archives and do my > own > research but I've come back to a plumbing disaster, a friend who I fear > may > be on the brink of suicide and now my front tooth has fallen out.) > Thanks for all/any help. Love you all. hugs, Kerry > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release Date: > 6/16/2006 > >
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Amen to that. I remember an old lady who called me in tears. She had been a crime victim times several and her family decided she had to move into an "old folks home." She had just killed her little dog. She was very old, blind etc and no one in the family would take her. I was able to catch a couple of the semi-ferals she fed and take them to a farm but the true ferals were on their own. I really don't know how long the lady lived after all this happened. I would not have been around long. I hope some of the assisted living places start accepting pets. That would help. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: "Kerry MacKenzie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 12:38 AM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed Thanks Marylyn. Have passed on all yr great advice. Will let you all know how things go. Yes, both cats are very very confused right now. But I feel most for poor Danny. It makes me so mad that nursing homes don't take pets. (I believe a rare few do.) - Original Message - From: "Marylyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 1:47 AM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed My first thought is to try Feliway spray. It helps a lot. Then put Rescue Remedy in their water. Wash down every place Danny has peed with Odo Ban. He is just trying to claim some space for himself. Can you imagine how awful and abandoned he feels? How very alone? He doesn't understand what has happened to his person and why he is in this situation and whether it is a home for life or he will be thrown out again He is very confused and very frightened.The Odo Ban is the only product I have found that really works on cat urine. Make sure there are at least two litter boxes. Since Danny is spraying I would suggest getting 18 gallon Rubbermaid boxes and cutting a "doorway" in it so Danny has plenty of high walls to spray. Don't put the lid on it though. Make sure each cat is getting attention separately and has his own food bowl. Given the stress this has to be putting on your friend and Danny's predicament I should seriously consider getting some valium from my vet for Danny and see it that helps. Danny needs a special place of his own to hide. Again, if there is little space, try a Rubbermaid container, this time with the lid on it. Cut a cat size hole near the end of one long side and high. The objective is to give the cat as much dark, safe space inside the box as possible. By cutting the hole about midway up the box and toward the end you maximize that space. Put in hay, shredded newspaper...something Danny can bury in and feel safe in (again spray the box and contents with Feliway). Other ideas are to consult an Animal Communicator and a holistic vet as well as a regular vet. It is possible that all the stress Danny is under may have led to a UTI. A vet checkup is not a bad idea. Make sure your friend remembers her original cat and the stress that cat is under too. Some of the above may help it. Good luck. It sounds like you can use some. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: "Kerry MacKenzie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 8:55 PM Subject: o/t advice needed > Hi all > I'm just back in the country again after 5 weeks FML, and once again my > condolences go to those of you who have lost beloved furkids, along > with > my > heartfelt wishes to all the sick kitties for a speedy recovery. > I've come back to discover a friend, B, throwing her hands up in despair > over her new kitty Danny. (Danny had to find a new home as his > guardian, a > neighbor of B's, entered a nursing home.) B already has one cat that she's > had for 15 years and she was quite concerned about how the two would > get > along. B does not have the space to allow them to be introduced slowly so > they were basically thrown together, and now Danny is peeing and spraying > everywhere it seems. > Any tips/advice, you wonderful people? I'm very concerned from what
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Again thanks Nina---I wonder if she even has 2 water bowls. I'll mention this too. - Original Message - From: Nina To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 3:43 PM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed Good idea Marylyn. I wonder if the flower essences we were discussing on the list would help too. I would try the RR, "Emergency" and "Relationship". She could add them to the water, (use either the RR or the "Emergency"), or dab a bit on the inside tip of Danny's ears, (if he doesn't mind her touching him). Darla says that cats who don't respond to one will sometimes respond to the other. I sent a link for the Australian FEs to the list a while you were gone, if you can't find it, I'll send it again. It's worth a try. I'd put the Relationship in both the cat's water bowls.NinaMarylyn wrote: Additional idea that has worked for me: Spray Feliway on her hands and clothes before she visits Danny. He will feel so much more at home with her.
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Another great idea--thank you, thank you Marylyn! - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 3:36 PM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed Additional idea that has worked for me: Spray Feliway on her hands and clothes before she visits Danny. He will feel so much more at home with her. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Nina To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 12:05 PM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed <>Kerry,However small B's, dwelling space is, she should have a bathroom. Tell her to make it comfortable for Danny's in there, (the suggestion of a piece of clothing belonging to his former mistress as bedding is a very good one). Keep food and water down, (as far away from the litter box as she can). If she can rig the "high walled" litter box, he might prefer it. She needs to give him a space of his own until he can adjust to his new circumstances. She should visit him in there, but not be pushy with him. Just go in with a book and sit on the floor and read near him. Talk softly and convince him that he is welcome and that none of this is his fault. He'll be much more likely to use the litterbox, (and get used to using the litter box) if he feels safe and it's convenient. Not to mention, it will be the most desirable place for him to go in a small space. Lastly, she should reassure "her" cat that this will in no way infringe on how she treats or feels about him. When things calm down, she should shut her cat in the bedroom and allow Danny, under supervision to make excursions into the rest of her apt. He may not want to venture out at first, that's okay, just leave the door open for him and let him take his time. After a while, put Danny back in the bathroom with a treat and cuddle time, (if he wants it), and release the other cat. She can also switch Danny to the bedroom and allow her other cat to explore Danny's bathroom, (when he's not in it). This way they can get used to each other's scent's and territory. I understand that some people think this sort of thing is a bother, but it's so much better than having your apt sprayed with urine, or having to find another home for poor Danny. It won't go on forever and she'll be doing everyone a tremendous favor by letting them take things in their own time and pace. Wish her luck from me and tell her thank you for taking Danny in.I'll talk to you soon about your hectic life! Nina> B already has one cat that she's had for 15 years and she was quite concerned about how the two would get along. B does not have the space to allow them to be introduced slowly so they were basically thrown together, and now Danny is peeing and spraying everywhere it seems. > No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.1/369 - Release Date: 6/19/2006
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Wonderful idea Kat-thankyou! - Original Message - From: "Kat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 6:14 AM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed > Hi Kerry, > > I agree with the advice from Marylyn, but want to add - > If there is any way to get some of the bedding or clothes > from Danny's original owner to put in the dark cubby, that > may help him adjust and settle in too. > > Kat (Mew Jersey) > > PS > I'm keeping you in my prayers too, and > sending gentle, soothing, stress-free vibes. > > > On Tue, 20 Jun 2006, Marylyn wrote: > > > Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 01:47:32 -0500 > > From: Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: o/t advice needed > > > > My first thought is to try Feliway spray. It helps a lot. Then put Rescue > > Remedy in their water. Wash down every place Danny has peed with Odo Ban. > > He is just trying to claim some space for himself. Can you imagine how > > awful and abandoned he feels? How very alone? He doesn't understand what > > has happened to his person and why he is in this situation and whether it > > is a home for life or he will be thrown out again He > > is very confused and very frightened.The Odo Ban is the only product I > > have found that really works on cat urine. Make sure there are at least two > > litter boxes. Since Danny is spraying I would suggest getting 18 gallon > > Rubbermaid boxes and cutting a "doorway" in it so Danny has plenty of high > > walls to spray. Don't put the lid on it though. Make sure each cat is > > getting attention separately and has his own food bowl. Given the stress > > this has to be putting on your friend and Danny's predicament I should > > seriously consider getting some valium from my vet for Danny and see it that > > helps. Danny needs a special place of his own to hide. Again, if there is > > little space, try a Rubbermaid container, this time with the lid on it. Cut > > a cat size hole near the end of one long side and high. The objective is to > > give the cat as much dark, safe space inside the box as possible. By > > cutting the hole about midway up the box and toward the end you maximize > > that space. Put in hay, shredded newspaper...something Danny can bury in > > and feel safe in (again spray the box and contents with Feliway). Other > > ideas are to consult an Animal Communicator and a holistic vet as well as a > > regular vet. > > > > It is possible that all the stress Danny is under may have led to a UTI. A > > vet checkup is not a bad idea. > > > > Make sure your friend remembers her original cat and the stress that cat is > > under too. Some of the above may help it. > > > > Good luck. It sounds like you can use some. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have men who will > > exclude any of God's creatures > > from the shelter of > > compassion and pity, you will have men who > > will deal likewise with > > their fellow man. > > St. > > Francis > > - Original Message - > > From: "Kerry MacKenzie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 8:55 PM > > Subject: o/t advice needed > > > > > > > Hi all > > > I'm just back in the country again after 5 weeks FML, and once again my > > > condolences go to those of you who have lost beloved furkids, along with > > > my > > > heartfelt wishes to all the sick kitties for a speedy recovery. > > > I've come back to discover a friend, B, throwing her hands up in despair > > > over her new kitty Danny. (Danny had to find a new home as his guardian, a > > > neighbor of B's, entered a nursing home.) B already has one cat that she's > > > had for 15 years and she was quite concerned about how the two would get > > > along. B does not have the space to allow them to be introduced slowly so > > > they were basically thrown together, and now Danny is peeing and spraying > > > everywhere it seems. > > > Any tips/advice, you wonderful people? I'm very concerned from what she's > > > said that Danny will soon become homeless again, so I'll be very grateful > > > for any advice I can fwd to her. (I would get on the archives and do my > > > own > > > research but I've come back to a plumbing disaster, a friend who I fear > > > may > > > be on the brink of suicide and now my front tooth has fallen out.) > > > Thanks for all/any help. Love you all. hugs, Kerry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release Date: 6/16/2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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Another excellent idea that I'd not thought of. Thanks Kris! - Original Message - From: "gwork" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 9:00 AM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed > I agree also, especially about the stress on the cat and his need for > attention and space of his own. If it is possible, sometimes it helps to > have the litter boxes separate from each other, so that one cat can more so > have his "own" box. > > Kris > http://www.spazstory.zoomshare.com > - Original Message - > From: "Kat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 7:14 AM > Subject: Re: o/t advice needed > > > > Hi Kerry, > > > > I agree with the advice from Marylyn, but want to add - > > If there is any way to get some of the bedding or clothes > > from Danny's original owner to put in the dark cubby, that > > may help him adjust and settle in too. > > > > Kat (Mew Jersey) > > > > PS > > I'm keeping you in my prayers too, and > > sending gentle, soothing, stress-free vibes. > > > > > > On Tue, 20 Jun 2006, Marylyn wrote: > > > >> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 01:47:32 -0500 > >> From: Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> Subject: Re: o/t advice needed > >> > >> My first thought is to try Feliway spray. It helps a lot. Then put > >> Rescue > >> Remedy in their water. Wash down every place Danny has peed with Odo > >> Ban. > >> He is just trying to claim some space for himself. Can you imagine how > >> awful and abandoned he feels? How very alone? He doesn't understand > >> what > >> has happened to his person and why he is in this situation and whether > >> it > >> is a home for life or he will be thrown out again > >> He > >> is very confused and very frightened.The Odo Ban is the only product > >> I > >> have found that really works on cat urine. Make sure there are at least > >> two > >> litter boxes. Since Danny is spraying I would suggest getting 18 gallon > >> Rubbermaid boxes and cutting a "doorway" in it so Danny has plenty of > >> high > >> walls to spray. Don't put the lid on it though. Make sure each cat is > >> getting attention separately and has his own food bowl. Given the stress > >> this has to be putting on your friend and Danny's predicament I should > >> seriously consider getting some valium from my vet for Danny and see it > >> that > >> helps. Danny needs a special place of his own to hide. Again, if there > >> is > >> little space, try a Rubbermaid container, this time with the lid on it. > >> Cut > >> a cat size hole near the end of one long side and high. The objective is > >> to > >> give the cat as much dark, safe space inside the box as possible. By > >> cutting the hole about midway up the box and toward the end you maximize > >> that space. Put in hay, shredded newspaper...something Danny can bury in > >> and feel safe in (again spray the box and contents with Feliway). Other > >> ideas are to consult an Animal Communicator and a holistic vet as well as > >> a > >> regular vet. > >> > >> It is possible that all the stress Danny is under may have led to a UTI. > >> A > >> vet checkup is not a bad idea. > >> > >> Make sure your friend remembers her original cat and the stress that cat > >> is > >> under too. Some of the above may help it. > >> > >> Good luck. It sounds like you can use some. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> If you have men who will > >> exclude any of God's creatures > >> from the shelter of > >> compassion and pity, you will have men who > >> will deal likewise with > >> their fellow man. > >> St. > >> Francis > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "Kerry MacKenzie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: > >> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 8:55 PM > >> Subject: o/t advice needed > >> > >> > >> > Hi all > >> &
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Thanks for that Nina. I really hope she does/tries this. Will keep you all posted. - Original Message - From: Nina To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 12:05 PM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed <>Kerry,However small B's, dwelling space is, she should have a bathroom. Tell her to make it comfortable for Danny's in there, (the suggestion of a piece of clothing belonging to his former mistress as bedding is a very good one). Keep food and water down, (as far away from the litter box as she can). If she can rig the "high walled" litter box, he might prefer it. She needs to give him a space of his own until he can adjust to his new circumstances. She should visit him in there, but not be pushy with him. Just go in with a book and sit on the floor and read near him. Talk softly and convince him that he is welcome and that none of this is his fault. He'll be much more likely to use the litterbox, (and get used to using the litter box) if he feels safe and it's convenient. Not to mention, it will be the most desirable place for him to go in a small space. Lastly, she should reassure "her" cat that this will in no way infringe on how she treats or feels about him. When things calm down, she should shut her cat in the bedroom and allow Danny, under supervision to make excursions into the rest of her apt. He may not want to venture out at first, that's okay, just leave the door open for him and let him take his time. After a while, put Danny back in the bathroom with a treat and cuddle time, (if he wants it), and release the other cat. She can also switch Danny to the bedroom and allow her other cat to explore Danny's bathroom, (when he's not in it). This way they can get used to each other's scent's and territory. I understand that some people think this sort of thing is a bother, but it's so much better than having your apt sprayed with urine, or having to find another home for poor Danny. It won't go on forever and she'll be doing everyone a tremendous favor by letting them take things in their own time and pace. Wish her luck from me and tell her thank you for taking Danny in.I'll talk to you soon about your hectic life! Nina> B already has one cat that she's had for 15 years and she was quite concerned about how the two would get along. B does not have the space to allow them to be introduced slowly so they were basically thrown together, and now Danny is peeing and spraying everywhere it seems. >
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Thanks Marylyn. Have passed on all yr great advice. Will let you all know how things go. Yes, both cats are very very confused right now. But I feel most for poor Danny. It makes me so mad that nursing homes don't take pets. (I believe a rare few do.) - Original Message - From: "Marylyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 1:47 AM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed > My first thought is to try Feliway spray. It helps a lot. Then put Rescue > Remedy in their water. Wash down every place Danny has peed with Odo Ban. > He is just trying to claim some space for himself. Can you imagine how > awful and abandoned he feels? How very alone? He doesn't understand what > has happened to his person and why he is in this situation and whether it > is a home for life or he will be thrown out again He > is very confused and very frightened.The Odo Ban is the only product I > have found that really works on cat urine. Make sure there are at least two > litter boxes. Since Danny is spraying I would suggest getting 18 gallon > Rubbermaid boxes and cutting a "doorway" in it so Danny has plenty of high > walls to spray. Don't put the lid on it though. Make sure each cat is > getting attention separately and has his own food bowl. Given the stress > this has to be putting on your friend and Danny's predicament I should > seriously consider getting some valium from my vet for Danny and see it that > helps. Danny needs a special place of his own to hide. Again, if there is > little space, try a Rubbermaid container, this time with the lid on it. Cut > a cat size hole near the end of one long side and high. The objective is to > give the cat as much dark, safe space inside the box as possible. By > cutting the hole about midway up the box and toward the end you maximize > that space. Put in hay, shredded newspaper...something Danny can bury in > and feel safe in (again spray the box and contents with Feliway). Other > ideas are to consult an Animal Communicator and a holistic vet as well as a > regular vet. > > It is possible that all the stress Danny is under may have led to a UTI. A > vet checkup is not a bad idea. > > Make sure your friend remembers her original cat and the stress that cat is > under too. Some of the above may help it. > > Good luck. It sounds like you can use some. > > > > > > > If you have men who will > exclude any of God's creatures > from the shelter of > compassion and pity, you will have men who > will deal likewise with > their fellow man. > St. > Francis > - Original Message - > From: "Kerry MacKenzie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 8:55 PM > Subject: o/t advice needed > > > > Hi all > > I'm just back in the country again after 5 weeks FML, and once again my > > condolences go to those of you who have lost beloved furkids, along with > > my > > heartfelt wishes to all the sick kitties for a speedy recovery. > > I've come back to discover a friend, B, throwing her hands up in despair > > over her new kitty Danny. (Danny had to find a new home as his guardian, a > > neighbor of B's, entered a nursing home.) B already has one cat that she's > > had for 15 years and she was quite concerned about how the two would get > > along. B does not have the space to allow them to be introduced slowly so > > they were basically thrown together, and now Danny is peeing and spraying > > everywhere it seems. > > Any tips/advice, you wonderful people? I'm very concerned from what she's > > said that Danny will soon become homeless again, so I'll be very grateful > > for any advice I can fwd to her. (I would get on the archives and do my > > own > > research but I've come back to a plumbing disaster, a friend who I fear > > may > > be on the brink of suicide and now my front tooth has fallen out.) > > Thanks for all/any help. Love you all. hugs, Kerry > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release Date: 6/16/2006 > > > > > >
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Thanks Phaewryn-- The tooth was already a "temporary" one (put in 4 years ago) that had decided to choose this weekend to make a break for it. The nerve had been taken out 20 years ago so fortunately no pain. So plenty of empathy to spare for poor Danny--it's time that's been the problem. Dentist did another temp fix last night and further work tomorrow. Taking more time off work just what I need (not) after 5 weeks off already! > Yikes! Sounds like more than I could handle all own it's own, without trying to help > the neighbor's cat! Is the tooth falling out painful, and can it be re-attached > tomorrow at the dentists? > > Ever consider maybe your teeth are falling out from all the STRESS in your daily life > Kerry? ;-) > > > Phaewryn > > PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! > http://ucat.us/adopt.html > > DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for > pictures) and HOMES for CATS! > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release Date: 6/16/2006 > >
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Thank you Moonvine---have fwded on. I hadn't thought about the box numbers. You guys are great! - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 9:19 PM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed > She needs to have one litterbox per cat, plus one, which would be 3 > for 2 cats. Basically she may have to wait since she could not do a > slow introduction. > > I know some of my friends who do fostering have cats who are on meds > for anxiety, which seems to help with this issue. I have mixed > feelings about cats being on anxiety meds. > > - Original Message - > From: Kerry MacKenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Monday, June 19, 2006 9:08 pm > Subject: o/t advice needed > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > Hi all > > I'm just back in the country again after 5 weeks FML, and once > > again my > > condolences go to those of you who have lost beloved furkids, > > along with my > > heartfelt wishes to all the sick kitties for a speedy recovery. > > I've come back to discover a friend, B, throwing her hands up in > > despairover her new kitty Danny. (Danny had to find a new home as > > his guardian, a > > neighbor of B's, entered a nursing home.) B already has one cat > > that she's > > had for 15 years and she was quite concerned about how the two > > would get > > along. B does not have the space to allow them to be introduced > > slowly so > > they were basically thrown together, and now Danny is peeing and > > sprayingeverywhere it seems. > > Any tips/advice, you wonderful people? I'm very concerned from > > what she's > > said that Danny will soon become homeless again, so I'll be very > > gratefulfor any advice I can fwd to her. (I would get on the > > archives and do my own > > research but I've come back to a plumbing disaster, a friend who I > > fear may > > be on the brink of suicide and now my front tooth has fallen out.) > > Thanks for all/any help. Love you all. hugs, Kerry > > > > >
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Would you resend the link? I am interested in checking these out. Thanks If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Nina To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 3:43 PM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed Good idea Marylyn. I wonder if the flower essences we were discussing on the list would help too. I would try the RR, "Emergency" and "Relationship". She could add them to the water, (use either the RR or the "Emergency"), or dab a bit on the inside tip of Danny's ears, (if he doesn't mind her touching him). Darla says that cats who don't respond to one will sometimes respond to the other. I sent a link for the Australian FEs to the list a while you were gone, if you can't find it, I'll send it again. It's worth a try. I'd put the Relationship in both the cat's water bowls.NinaMarylyn wrote: Additional idea that has worked for me: Spray Feliway on her hands and clothes before she visits Danny. He will feel so much more at home with her. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.1/369 - Release Date: 6/19/2006
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Good idea Marylyn. I wonder if the flower essences we were discussing on the list would help too. I would try the RR, "Emergency" and "Relationship". She could add them to the water, (use either the RR or the "Emergency"), or dab a bit on the inside tip of Danny's ears, (if he doesn't mind her touching him). Darla says that cats who don't respond to one will sometimes respond to the other. I sent a link for the Australian FEs to the list a while you were gone, if you can't find it, I'll send it again. It's worth a try. I'd put the Relationship in both the cat's water bowls. Nina Marylyn wrote: Additional idea that has worked for me: Spray Feliway on her hands and clothes before she visits Danny. He will feel so much more at home with her.
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Additional idea that has worked for me: Spray Feliway on her hands and clothes before she visits Danny. He will feel so much more at home with her. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Nina To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 12:05 PM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed <>Kerry,However small B's, dwelling space is, she should have a bathroom. Tell her to make it comfortable for Danny's in there, (the suggestion of a piece of clothing belonging to his former mistress as bedding is a very good one). Keep food and water down, (as far away from the litter box as she can). If she can rig the "high walled" litter box, he might prefer it. She needs to give him a space of his own until he can adjust to his new circumstances. She should visit him in there, but not be pushy with him. Just go in with a book and sit on the floor and read near him. Talk softly and convince him that he is welcome and that none of this is his fault. He'll be much more likely to use the litterbox, (and get used to using the litter box) if he feels safe and it's convenient. Not to mention, it will be the most desirable place for him to go in a small space. Lastly, she should reassure "her" cat that this will in no way infringe on how she treats or feels about him. When things calm down, she should shut her cat in the bedroom and allow Danny, under supervision to make excursions into the rest of her apt. He may not want to venture out at first, that's okay, just leave the door open for him and let him take his time. After a while, put Danny back in the bathroom with a treat and cuddle time, (if he wants it), and release the other cat. She can also switch Danny to the bedroom and allow her other cat to explore Danny's bathroom, (when he's not in it). This way they can get used to each other's scent's and territory. I understand that some people think this sort of thing is a bother, but it's so much better than having your apt sprayed with urine, or having to find another home for poor Danny. It won't go on forever and she'll be doing everyone a tremendous favor by letting them take things in their own time and pace. Wish her luck from me and tell her thank you for taking Danny in.I'll talk to you soon about your hectic life! Nina> B already has one cat that she's had for 15 years and she was quite concerned about how the two would get along. B does not have the space to allow them to be introduced slowly so they were basically thrown together, and now Danny is peeing and spraying everywhere it seems. > No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.1/369 - Release Date: 6/19/2006
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<>Kerry, However small B's, dwelling space is, she should have a bathroom. Tell her to make it comfortable for Danny's in there, (the suggestion of a piece of clothing belonging to his former mistress as bedding is a very good one). Keep food and water down, (as far away from the litter box as she can). If she can rig the "high walled" litter box, he might prefer it. She needs to give him a space of his own until he can adjust to his new circumstances. She should visit him in there, but not be pushy with him. Just go in with a book and sit on the floor and read near him. Talk softly and convince him that he is welcome and that none of this is his fault. He'll be much more likely to use the litterbox, (and get used to using the litter box) if he feels safe and it's convenient. Not to mention, it will be the most desirable place for him to go in a small space. Lastly, she should reassure "her" cat that this will in no way infringe on how she treats or feels about him. When things calm down, she should shut her cat in the bedroom and allow Danny, under supervision to make excursions into the rest of her apt. He may not want to venture out at first, that's okay, just leave the door open for him and let him take his time. After a while, put Danny back in the bathroom with a treat and cuddle time, (if he wants it), and release the other cat. She can also switch Danny to the bedroom and allow her other cat to explore Danny's bathroom, (when he's not in it). This way they can get used to each other's scent's and territory. I understand that some people think this sort of thing is a bother, but it's so much better than having your apt sprayed with urine, or having to find another home for poor Danny. It won't go on forever and she'll be doing everyone a tremendous favor by letting them take things in their own time and pace. Wish her luck from me and tell her thank you for taking Danny in. I'll talk to you soon about your hectic life! Nina > B already has one cat that she's had for 15 years and she was quite concerned about how the two would get along. B does not have the space to allow them to be introduced slowly so they were basically thrown together, and now Danny is peeing and spraying everywhere it seems. >
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I agree also, especially about the stress on the cat and his need for attention and space of his own. If it is possible, sometimes it helps to have the litter boxes separate from each other, so that one cat can more so have his "own" box. Kris http://www.spazstory.zoomshare.com - Original Message - From: "Kat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 7:14 AM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed Hi Kerry, I agree with the advice from Marylyn, but want to add - If there is any way to get some of the bedding or clothes from Danny's original owner to put in the dark cubby, that may help him adjust and settle in too. Kat (Mew Jersey) PS I'm keeping you in my prayers too, and sending gentle, soothing, stress-free vibes. On Tue, 20 Jun 2006, Marylyn wrote: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 01:47:32 -0500 From: Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: o/t advice needed My first thought is to try Feliway spray. It helps a lot. Then put Rescue Remedy in their water. Wash down every place Danny has peed with Odo Ban. He is just trying to claim some space for himself. Can you imagine how awful and abandoned he feels? How very alone? He doesn't understand what has happened to his person and why he is in this situation and whether it is a home for life or he will be thrown out again He is very confused and very frightened.The Odo Ban is the only product I have found that really works on cat urine. Make sure there are at least two litter boxes. Since Danny is spraying I would suggest getting 18 gallon Rubbermaid boxes and cutting a "doorway" in it so Danny has plenty of high walls to spray. Don't put the lid on it though. Make sure each cat is getting attention separately and has his own food bowl. Given the stress this has to be putting on your friend and Danny's predicament I should seriously consider getting some valium from my vet for Danny and see it that helps. Danny needs a special place of his own to hide. Again, if there is little space, try a Rubbermaid container, this time with the lid on it. Cut a cat size hole near the end of one long side and high. The objective is to give the cat as much dark, safe space inside the box as possible. By cutting the hole about midway up the box and toward the end you maximize that space. Put in hay, shredded newspaper...something Danny can bury in and feel safe in (again spray the box and contents with Feliway). Other ideas are to consult an Animal Communicator and a holistic vet as well as a regular vet. It is possible that all the stress Danny is under may have led to a UTI. A vet checkup is not a bad idea. Make sure your friend remembers her original cat and the stress that cat is under too. Some of the above may help it. Good luck. It sounds like you can use some. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: "Kerry MacKenzie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 8:55 PM Subject: o/t advice needed > Hi all > I'm just back in the country again after 5 weeks FML, and once again my > condolences go to those of you who have lost beloved furkids, along > with > my > heartfelt wishes to all the sick kitties for a speedy recovery. > I've come back to discover a friend, B, throwing her hands up in > despair > over her new kitty Danny. (Danny had to find a new home as his > guardian, a > neighbor of B's, entered a nursing home.) B already has one cat that > she's > had for 15 years and she was quite concerned about how the two would > get > along. B does not have the space to allow them to be introduced slowly > so > they were basically thrown together, and now Danny is peeing and > spraying > everywhere it seems. > Any tips/advice, you wonderful people? I'm very concerned from what > she's > said that Danny will soon become homeless again, so I'll be very > grateful > for any advice I can fwd to her. (I would get on the archives and do my > own > research but I've come back to a plumbing disaster, a friend who I fear > may > be on the brink of suicide and now my front tooth has fallen out.) > Thanks for all/any help. Love you all. hugs, Kerry > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release Date: > 6/16/2006 > >
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Wonderful idea... If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: "Kat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 6:14 AM Subject: Re: o/t advice needed Hi Kerry, I agree with the advice from Marylyn, but want to add - If there is any way to get some of the bedding or clothes from Danny's original owner to put in the dark cubby, that may help him adjust and settle in too. Kat (Mew Jersey) PS I'm keeping you in my prayers too, and sending gentle, soothing, stress-free vibes. On Tue, 20 Jun 2006, Marylyn wrote: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 01:47:32 -0500 From: Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: o/t advice needed My first thought is to try Feliway spray. It helps a lot. Then put Rescue Remedy in their water. Wash down every place Danny has peed with Odo Ban. He is just trying to claim some space for himself. Can you imagine how awful and abandoned he feels? How very alone? He doesn't understand what has happened to his person and why he is in this situation and whether it is a home for life or he will be thrown out again He is very confused and very frightened.The Odo Ban is the only product I have found that really works on cat urine. Make sure there are at least two litter boxes. Since Danny is spraying I would suggest getting 18 gallon Rubbermaid boxes and cutting a "doorway" in it so Danny has plenty of high walls to spray. Don't put the lid on it though. Make sure each cat is getting attention separately and has his own food bowl. Given the stress this has to be putting on your friend and Danny's predicament I should seriously consider getting some valium from my vet for Danny and see it that helps. Danny needs a special place of his own to hide. Again, if there is little space, try a Rubbermaid container, this time with the lid on it. Cut a cat size hole near the end of one long side and high. The objective is to give the cat as much dark, safe space inside the box as possible. By cutting the hole about midway up the box and toward the end you maximize that space. Put in hay, shredded newspaper...something Danny can bury in and feel safe in (again spray the box and contents with Feliway). Other ideas are to consult an Animal Communicator and a holistic vet as well as a regular vet. It is possible that all the stress Danny is under may have led to a UTI. A vet checkup is not a bad idea. Make sure your friend remembers her original cat and the stress that cat is under too. Some of the above may help it. Good luck. It sounds like you can use some. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: "Kerry MacKenzie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 8:55 PM Subject: o/t advice needed > Hi all > I'm just back in the country again after 5 weeks FML, and once again my > condolences go to those of you who have lost beloved furkids, along > with > my > heartfelt wishes to all the sick kitties for a speedy recovery. > I've come back to discover a friend, B, throwing her hands up in > despair > over her new kitty Danny. (Danny had to find a new home as his > guardian, a > neighbor of B's, entered a nursing home.) B already has one cat that > she's > had for 15 years and she was quite concerned about how the two would > get > along. B does not have the space to allow them to be introduced slowly > so > they were basically thrown together, and now Danny is peeing and > spraying > everywhere it seems. > Any tips/advice, you wonderful people? I'm very concerned from what > she's > said that Danny will soon become homeless again, so I'll be very > grateful > for any advice I can fwd to her. (I would get on the archives and do my > own > research but I've come back to a plumbing disaster, a friend who I fear > may > be on the brink of suicide and now my front tooth has fallen out.) > Thanks for all/any help. Love you all. hugs, Kerry > > > > > > --
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Hi Kerry, I agree with the advice from Marylyn, but want to add - If there is any way to get some of the bedding or clothes from Danny's original owner to put in the dark cubby, that may help him adjust and settle in too. Kat (Mew Jersey) PS I'm keeping you in my prayers too, and sending gentle, soothing, stress-free vibes. On Tue, 20 Jun 2006, Marylyn wrote: > Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 01:47:32 -0500 > From: Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: o/t advice needed > > My first thought is to try Feliway spray. It helps a lot. Then put Rescue > Remedy in their water. Wash down every place Danny has peed with Odo Ban. > He is just trying to claim some space for himself. Can you imagine how > awful and abandoned he feels? How very alone? He doesn't understand what > has happened to his person and why he is in this situation and whether it > is a home for life or he will be thrown out again He > is very confused and very frightened.The Odo Ban is the only product I > have found that really works on cat urine. Make sure there are at least two > litter boxes. Since Danny is spraying I would suggest getting 18 gallon > Rubbermaid boxes and cutting a "doorway" in it so Danny has plenty of high > walls to spray. Don't put the lid on it though. Make sure each cat is > getting attention separately and has his own food bowl. Given the stress > this has to be putting on your friend and Danny's predicament I should > seriously consider getting some valium from my vet for Danny and see it that > helps. Danny needs a special place of his own to hide. Again, if there is > little space, try a Rubbermaid container, this time with the lid on it. Cut > a cat size hole near the end of one long side and high. The objective is to > give the cat as much dark, safe space inside the box as possible. By > cutting the hole about midway up the box and toward the end you maximize > that space. Put in hay, shredded newspaper...something Danny can bury in > and feel safe in (again spray the box and contents with Feliway). Other > ideas are to consult an Animal Communicator and a holistic vet as well as a > regular vet. > > It is possible that all the stress Danny is under may have led to a UTI. A > vet checkup is not a bad idea. > > Make sure your friend remembers her original cat and the stress that cat is > under too. Some of the above may help it. > > Good luck. It sounds like you can use some. > > > > > > > If you have men who will > exclude any of God's creatures > from the shelter of > compassion and pity, you will have men who > will deal likewise with > their fellow man. > St. > Francis > - Original Message - > From: "Kerry MacKenzie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 8:55 PM > Subject: o/t advice needed > > > > Hi all > > I'm just back in the country again after 5 weeks FML, and once again my > > condolences go to those of you who have lost beloved furkids, along with > > my > > heartfelt wishes to all the sick kitties for a speedy recovery. > > I've come back to discover a friend, B, throwing her hands up in despair > > over her new kitty Danny. (Danny had to find a new home as his guardian, a > > neighbor of B's, entered a nursing home.) B already has one cat that she's > > had for 15 years and she was quite concerned about how the two would get > > along. B does not have the space to allow them to be introduced slowly so > > they were basically thrown together, and now Danny is peeing and spraying > > everywhere it seems. > > Any tips/advice, you wonderful people? I'm very concerned from what she's > > said that Danny will soon become homeless again, so I'll be very grateful > > for any advice I can fwd to her. (I would get on the archives and do my > > own > > research but I've come back to a plumbing disaster, a friend who I fear > > may > > be on the brink of suicide and now my front tooth has fallen out.) > > Thanks for all/any help. Love you all. hugs, Kerry > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release Date: 6/16/2006 > > > > > > >
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My first thought is to try Feliway spray. It helps a lot. Then put Rescue Remedy in their water. Wash down every place Danny has peed with Odo Ban. He is just trying to claim some space for himself. Can you imagine how awful and abandoned he feels? How very alone? He doesn't understand what has happened to his person and why he is in this situation and whether it is a home for life or he will be thrown out again He is very confused and very frightened.The Odo Ban is the only product I have found that really works on cat urine. Make sure there are at least two litter boxes. Since Danny is spraying I would suggest getting 18 gallon Rubbermaid boxes and cutting a "doorway" in it so Danny has plenty of high walls to spray. Don't put the lid on it though. Make sure each cat is getting attention separately and has his own food bowl. Given the stress this has to be putting on your friend and Danny's predicament I should seriously consider getting some valium from my vet for Danny and see it that helps. Danny needs a special place of his own to hide. Again, if there is little space, try a Rubbermaid container, this time with the lid on it. Cut a cat size hole near the end of one long side and high. The objective is to give the cat as much dark, safe space inside the box as possible. By cutting the hole about midway up the box and toward the end you maximize that space. Put in hay, shredded newspaper...something Danny can bury in and feel safe in (again spray the box and contents with Feliway). Other ideas are to consult an Animal Communicator and a holistic vet as well as a regular vet. It is possible that all the stress Danny is under may have led to a UTI. A vet checkup is not a bad idea. Make sure your friend remembers her original cat and the stress that cat is under too. Some of the above may help it. Good luck. It sounds like you can use some. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: "Kerry MacKenzie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 8:55 PM Subject: o/t advice needed Hi all I'm just back in the country again after 5 weeks FML, and once again my condolences go to those of you who have lost beloved furkids, along with my heartfelt wishes to all the sick kitties for a speedy recovery. I've come back to discover a friend, B, throwing her hands up in despair over her new kitty Danny. (Danny had to find a new home as his guardian, a neighbor of B's, entered a nursing home.) B already has one cat that she's had for 15 years and she was quite concerned about how the two would get along. B does not have the space to allow them to be introduced slowly so they were basically thrown together, and now Danny is peeing and spraying everywhere it seems. Any tips/advice, you wonderful people? I'm very concerned from what she's said that Danny will soon become homeless again, so I'll be very grateful for any advice I can fwd to her. (I would get on the archives and do my own research but I've come back to a plumbing disaster, a friend who I fear may be on the brink of suicide and now my front tooth has fallen out.) Thanks for all/any help. Love you all. hugs, Kerry -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release Date: 6/16/2006
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I would get on the archives and do my own research but I've come back to a plumbing disaster, a friend who I fear may be on the brink of suicide and now my front tooth has fallen out. Yikes! Sounds like more than I could handle all own it's own, without trying to help the neighbor's cat! Is the tooth falling out painful, and can it be re-attached tomorrow at the dentists? Ever consider maybe your teeth are falling out from all the STRESS in your daily life Kerry? ;-) Phaewryn PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release Date: 6/16/2006
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She needs to have one litterbox per cat, plus one, which would be 3 for 2 cats. Basically she may have to wait since she could not do a slow introduction. I know some of my friends who do fostering have cats who are on meds for anxiety, which seems to help with this issue. I have mixed feelings about cats being on anxiety meds. - Original Message - From: Kerry MacKenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Monday, June 19, 2006 9:08 pm Subject: o/t advice needed To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Hi all > I'm just back in the country again after 5 weeks FML, and once > again my > condolences go to those of you who have lost beloved furkids, > along with my > heartfelt wishes to all the sick kitties for a speedy recovery. > I've come back to discover a friend, B, throwing her hands up in > despairover her new kitty Danny. (Danny had to find a new home as > his guardian, a > neighbor of B's, entered a nursing home.) B already has one cat > that she's > had for 15 years and she was quite concerned about how the two > would get > along. B does not have the space to allow them to be introduced > slowly so > they were basically thrown together, and now Danny is peeing and > sprayingeverywhere it seems. > Any tips/advice, you wonderful people? I'm very concerned from > what she's > said that Danny will soon become homeless again, so I'll be very > gratefulfor any advice I can fwd to her. (I would get on the > archives and do my own > research but I've come back to a plumbing disaster, a friend who I > fear may > be on the brink of suicide and now my front tooth has fallen out.) > Thanks for all/any help. Love you all. hugs, Kerry > >
o/t advice needed
Hi all I'm just back in the country again after 5 weeks FML, and once again my condolences go to those of you who have lost beloved furkids, along with my heartfelt wishes to all the sick kitties for a speedy recovery. I've come back to discover a friend, B, throwing her hands up in despair over her new kitty Danny. (Danny had to find a new home as his guardian, a neighbor of B's, entered a nursing home.) B already has one cat that she's had for 15 years and she was quite concerned about how the two would get along. B does not have the space to allow them to be introduced slowly so they were basically thrown together, and now Danny is peeing and spraying everywhere it seems. Any tips/advice, you wonderful people? I'm very concerned from what she's said that Danny will soon become homeless again, so I'll be very grateful for any advice I can fwd to her. (I would get on the archives and do my own research but I've come back to a plumbing disaster, a friend who I fear may be on the brink of suicide and now my front tooth has fallen out.) Thanks for all/any help. Love you all. hugs, Kerry
