Just want you to know I'm running a marathon today. People sometimes dedicate
every mile to someone different - I've got 25 kitties names I've taken from the
list (some sick, some already at the bridge) written on my bib and I'll be
dedicating a mile to each of them. The first mile is for ALL
The vet called yesterday - Scooter is stable and not in any pain (he''s on
opiates). I'll consult with her about the dex shots. It's nice to know
there's SOMETHING I can do!
I just want to emphasize, too, that chemo can really help lymphoma in some
cases. People tend to shy away from it when they do not really understand,
because they think of humans getting so sick from it. Vets do not give
cats and dogs the same level of chemo that they give to humans, and
That is such an amazing thing to do. Thank you from all of us.
And good luck!!
Michelle
In a message dated 11/12/2006 5:04:50 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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Just
want you to know I'm running a marathon today. People sometimes dedicate
every mile to someone
I personally would vaccinate everyone (even my fiv's) for felv. Wait and give them all the booster, and then mix. If your cats have already been vaccinated and boostered, of course this doesn't need to be done and I would mix now. 12 weeks is too young to know if this cat is truly positive.
That is so very sweet of you,good luck on the marathon.Take care Sherry[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just want you to know I'm running a marathon today. People sometimes dedicate every mile to someone different - I've got 25 kitties names I've taken from the list (some sick, some already at the
Gus is still having problems with very bad loose stool and is still at the clinic.Thanks for the prayers for him. SherryJennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Poor Evander, I hope my thoughts of peace made it through to him, and sped his journey.How is Gus doing? I was
Kerry many prayers and good thoughts going out to you and Inky. SherryKerry Roach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi everyone, I have been out of touch this last week as Inky has been sick...He is my boy that is 20yrs 3 months and isn't felv+. Anyway, we were fighting the IBD last weekend. I thought
Prayers and good thoughts for your sweet scooter Sherry[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sad to say that Scooter will probably not make it. The vet thinks he likely has lymphoma, as x-rays show his kidneys to be enlarged and misshapen, and his white cell count dropped from normal to 2000 in less than
Could I ask for some prayers for our sweet little buff girl Haley,she seems to be losing weight,we lost her sister Hillary a few months back.They were born with felv and she is over 2 years old now.We know she won't be here for years and years but prayers would be appreciated.Thank you all so
Sending prayers, Sherry. We all know that some of them can go a lot
longer than 2 years, so it is always worth hoping and praying.
How many positives are at the shelter?
Michelle
In a message dated 11/12/2006 9:19:26 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Could I ask for
We have around 80 fiv,felv pos at the shelter.We have had 3 retest neg for both,one just last night. :) Ivan a hurricane Katrina kitty that has been with us for almost a year,he tested pos for fiv and now nothing.Finally some good news instead of bad all the time.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
don't know about UC Davis, but i JUST found out that the MSU vet school adopts out theirs.
On 11/11/06, Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Speaking of healthy adult cats is UC Davis in CA still adopting their research cats out to the public after they complete their
Kerry, I will be praying so hard that Inky
will fell better soon my Hannibal
had CRF and was on CRF support group and still am so I know a bit about
this disease how high is his BUN how about crea? Phos? Is he
on any phos. Binder? Is he anemic at all ? please post his blood work if you
Sherry, can you do his blood work to see
whats going on? Interferon may help to feel better and shake whatever
is going on right now, too.
From:
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Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan
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Go Go Go! And thank you.
elizabeth
In a message dated 11/12/2006 4:04:50 A.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Just
want you to know I'm running a marathon today. People sometimes dedicate
every mile to someone different - I've got 25 kitties names I've taken from
Thank you for letting us know - I've been thinking about you guys.
love and prayers,
elizabeth
In a message dated 11/12/2006 4:16:06 A.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The vet
called yesterday - Scooter is stable and not in any pain (he''s on
opiates). I'll consult
Prayers for you all and special prayers for Haley, Sherry.
love and light,
elizabeth
In a message dated 11/12/2006 8:19:26 A.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Could I ask for some prayers for our sweet little buff girl Haley,she
seems to be losing weight,we lost her
Sometimes I get so much email that I have to scan quickly and I know I miss
out on things...but I have this question that I hope someone can answer.
If FIV can only be confirmed with necropsy, then how does the test for FIV
work? I ask because when Mama Kitty was giving a test at the vet's
To Scooter's mom,
I'm so sorry about Scooter's prognosis. I'm sending prayers and
support, we do all know how hard it is to watch and wait and try to
decide what's best for our sweet babies. I wanted to second Michelle's
suggestion. From what I hear, the dex shots, (my vet wouldn't
Hi Kerry,
I'm sending prayers and healing energy for Inky, Bandy and you. You are
a remarkable woman to muster so much strength for so long. Inky and
Bandy, (and all your babies), chose well.
Much love,
Nina
Kerry Roach wrote:
Hi everyone,
I have been out of touch this last week as Inky
Good, I'm glad you have a vet that acknowledges that cats can be in pain and is
willing to prescribe medication. It's sad that some vets don't seem to care or
understand that pain happens in animals.
Phaewryn
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Low cost
Sending "firm poopie" vibes to Gus
then!
Phaewryn
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It's FIP that can be confirmed with
necropsy.
No...your not ignorant!
In a message dated 11/12/2006 10:35:34 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Sometimes I get so much email that I have to scan quickly and I know I
miss out on things...but I have this question that
Sending thoughts of healing and peace
for Haley.
Phaewryn
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SpayNeuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat
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Do they have a website for their
adoption program, MC?
Phaewryn
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Yes, you're thinking of FIP. The combo
test you're referring to is a combo FIV/FELV ELISA pop test (and it's generally
considered unreliable due to the large number of false positives and false
negatives it registers)
Phaewryn
Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!!
NM, I found it:
http://cvm.msu.edu/research/cfhw/Adoption.htm
That's wonderful! I wish more vet
schools would do this... most of the research animals end up just euth'ed after
they are done with them.
Phaewryn
Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html
pop test? gee, i'm used to calling it a SNAP test myownself (after you place the drawn blood into the cavity, you have to snap it closed.)
for future reference,FIV sanctuaries and rescues won't even consider a cat positive without a confirmatory western blot testand the FIVvaccine
i've only been in the area for 23 years, and in rescue for eight--and NEVER knew they did this never seen any reference on any of the statewide lists, so don't know if it's a new policy, if they don't work with rescues, or what.
On 11/12/06, Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Snap, pop... minor differential
technicalities in my auditory senses, IMO. LMAO! Think Rice
Crispies
Phaewryn
Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost
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UC Davis used to do it too (they still
may and just the webpage builder graduated or something)... I'm going to write
EVERY vet school in the USA, and ask them about it. Then, I'm making a link to
all the ones that do from my website... look at it so far, on my
domesticcatlinks.html page
Whoops, didn't realize that was to the
entire list, meant to take that on off list. OR to the OT list... hint hint
MC!
Phaewryn
Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost
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i'm just loving the thought of the look on my vet's face next time i have to ask for a pop test...
On 11/12/06, Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Snap, pop... minor differential technicalities in my auditory senses, IMO. LMAO! Think Rice Crispies
Phaewryn
Please adopt a cat
nope, i've never gotten around to putting together one, either!
On 11/12/06, Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
UC Davis used to do it too (they still may and just the webpage builder graduated or something)... I'm going to write EVERY vet school in the USA, and ask them about
Hey, I didn't mind.
I would be interested in this list as well. It would probably
be useful in helping them as well adopt their kitties out.
Do write every Vet school in the U.S.
If you need help let me know I'll try and make
time.
In a message dated 11/12/2006 1:17:41 P.M. Pacific
Are you on the OT group yet Terrie? If
not, you should join... I've just moved this conversation over there. I'll send
you an invite... ignore it if you're already over there..
Phaewryn
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SpayNeuter
I think so...can't remember.
My age is catching up with me I guess.
Do send it to me.
With all the crap that has been happening lately it's a wonder
I'm still able to function some what normal...lol
In a message dated 11/12/2006 1:40:17 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That is good news! And what an amazing thing-- a shelter with so many
positives, devoted to positives.
What do you do when they test negative?
Michelle
In a message dated 11/12/2006 10:19:05 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
We have
around 80 fiv,felv pos at the
At 10:34 AM 11/12/2006, you wrote:
It is FIP that is confirmed (sometimes) by necropsy. FIV is confirmed
when they are alive and well by blood work
Kelly
Sometimes I
get so much email that I have to scan quickly and I know I miss out on
things...but I have this question that I hope someone can
Well when One-Eyed Willie tested neg,one of our volunteers took him home until he could be retested,needless to say that is where he stayed :) and then when Tristan tested neg for felv he came to my house and I am taking him and two other of my boys in thursday to be retested.Regardless of the
Hi, everyone, I wanted to ask you all if you have been or
have used interferon on your felk kitties when asymptomatic
I have lost my baby Tsubomi last month she had been
so healthy and so chubby ever since I had rescued her and I had no idea that
she was that ill (became very anemic
Hello,
I've got Ember on Transfer Factor: People Version. I just received
some Mega C that I want to start fairly soon. When I give Ember the
TF, I put it in her wet food. The trouble is, she sometimes doesn't
tear through her wet food as I'd like. Would a Pill Pocket be able to
properly
Hi guys,
If you were establishing a rescue, what kind of felv/fiv testing policy would you use? If the cats were positive for either or both, what would you do?
Thanks for your input.
Kelley-- Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
I have a much better solution, if it will work. When I need to give my cats
supplements, I mix them into chicken or turkey baby food (beechnut or gerber's,
just make sure no onion is in it-- just turkey and broth and gerber's has corn
starch). Most cats LOVE baby food and will eat almost
At 03:19 PM 11/12/2006, you wrote:
Everyone is different. I would separate the FELV and but he FIV as
long as they were friendly, but both are more susceptible to others bugs
the other cats have, I would use it as a chance to educate.
Kelly
Hi guys,
If you were establishing a rescue, what kind
I would test all of them, because you do not want to adopt out without
knowing, both because of contagion and because you then will not know what the
person/family will do if the cat later tests positive by surprise. If you are
going to adopt a positive to someone, you want to know and make
Hi guys, Thanks so much for the prayers.. Inky had the IV pulled Sat around 5pm so now we hope it worked...They are going to get him some sort of new med that keeps the BUN and creatinine down..Guess I will find out Monday about that as I think it has to come from a compounding pharmacy..
the very first thing would be to establish a network of foster homes who were educated about, and not afraid of, either virus. in the cases of either, having time and space is often the difference between their life and death--most rescues/shelters might give them a chance if they had a place to
Kerry, I don't think the diet is crazy, but I am not sure salt is good, or
even ok, for a CRF cat. Did you ask the vet? In addition to making him drink, it
might actually be difficult on his kidneys. I am not at all sure about that, but
think I heard something about it. or maybe when Lamby,
Baytril does help with URI's. It is very strong, though, and what gave Lucy
the original diarrhea that started her IBD, so she can't get it. It works well,
though.
Michelle
In a message dated 11/9/2006 7:59:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Does
Baytrill help with
Test for both, using the combo ELISA
"snap" test (the one most vet offices do right while you wait in the exam room).
If it shows double neg, retest again with same test in 1 month to confirm
negative prior to adoption as neg cat, if the cat being absolutely negative is
that important to
well, one month isn't really enough for FeLV retestingi've never seen anything about needing to wait to confirm an FIV negative, tho i guess it couldn't hurt. i've gathered tho, that it will show up much quicker than will FeLV infection. there also doesn't seem to be any real info about adult
Oh and missed the what would I do part
of that.
In the case of FIV positive, I advertise
the cat for adoption as FIV+ and provide educational links and brochures for
people so they can learn about FIV and know that it's OK to have a FIV+ cat with
other negative cats. These usually take
MC, why do the western blot at all? The
DNA test is a sure thing the way I see it, the DNA test has made the western
blot obsolete.
Phaewryn
Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost
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At 03:54 PM 11/12/2006, you wrote:
Personally I would not mix the Felv and FIV as you do not the FIV to end
up with FELV, my felv are in their own area , but I know it
is hard to transmit, but they can easily catch something else that would
not be serious to a healthy cat but could be deadly to
No, my logic behind the 1 month is, it's
better than one week, and usually as long as most rescues are willing to wait to
put a healthy "negative" cat up for adoption. If I'd said 120 days like you did
(for a retest to assure a neg result) she probably would have been like "120
Days? I have
I'm also saving the cat another blood
draw at a later date by retesting for the FIV and the FELV at the same time.
(which translates into saving the rescue $ too)
Phaewryn
Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost
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At 03:46 PM 11/12/2006, you wrote:
I habe had god luck with Baytril, just make sure the dosage is at a safe
level not to causse eye problems. Most vets are aware of this and
careful. Baytril saved Sammy my FIV cat,
Kelly
Baytril does help
with URI's. It is very strong, though, and what gave
i go for separate rooms for FIVs and FeLVs, with FIV/FeLVs mixed with the FeLVs, unless all the FIVs were vaccinated against FeLV. even then, for public relations reasons, i'd probably keep them separate. yes, while many people think you shouldn't vaccinate FIV cats, there's no research showing
well, as long as it's free, which it may NOT remain, i guess the DNA test would be enough. i'll have to sit down and read UC Davis' research, tho, and get some feedback from the vets i've sent the info to before i take the validity and reliability of their DNA results as gospel. there have
One of the vet sites does specifically
mention that "Young cats and kittens under one year of age, and cats with
compromised immune systems are more susceptible to FELV."
FIV is "immunodefiency syndrome" thus
plopping them right directly into that "compromised immune system" category
True. But then there's you and me woman,
we must educate the world!
(say the educate the world part in
cartoon super-hero voice, while pumping fist into the air andsticking out
chest)
I wish I wasn't broke and out of ink in
my printer. I would print off that webpage about the DNA
At 04:25 PM 11/12/2006, you wrote:
Yup..It is what we do regularly isn't it. I also ask for their private
email addresses and send stuff on that way.
Kelly
True. But then there's
you and me woman, we must educate the world!
(say the educate the world part in cartoon super-hero voice, while
At 04:25 PM 11/12/2006, you wrote:
I printed out the information regarding Alferon to several vets who are
now passing it on to theri cliets,
True. But then there's
you and me woman, we must educate the world!
(say the educate the world part in cartoon super-hero voice, while
pumping fist
oh, well, yeah, i'm talking about healthy adults--i wouldn't put kittens or elders with ANY special-needs groups.
the issue is how immune compromised FIVs truly are remember, FIV is a NAME, just as FIP is--and was given that nameduring the heyday of the HIV/AIDS panic, when not that much was
Oh, so very true, and that had not
occurred to me! They even say on one of the FIP webpages that FIP has absolutely
nothing to do withinfection of the peritonealtissue, that the name
came from the first stages of research when they were unsure of it's exact
pathology.
So, yeah, it's
At 04:35 PM 11/12/2006, you wrote:
My FIV cat is not the concern my FELV cat is, With a shelter there is a
liability issue also, Remember the public is not as informed either.
Kelly
oh, well, yeah, i'm talking
about healthy adults--i wouldn't put kittens or elders with ANY
special-needs groups.
FIV is classified as a retro-virus, so i'm not saying there's no consequences, or that some FIVs don't have major problems. it just seems that those that do develop consistently are fairly treatable--the mouth problems from herpes, for example--and that if major medical problems are to occur, they
As a child that spent most of her
childhood in and out of hospitals, you can be sure Iknew whatimmune
compromised meant before I could read. :)
Phaewryn
Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost
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well, yes, but you are NOT a normal, run-of-the-mill human! (in more ways than i can count! :::fleaing)
On 11/12/06, Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As a child that spent most of her childhood in and out of hospitals, you can be sure Iknew whatimmune compromised meant
My vet starts FeLV cats on interferon alpha whether or not they're
showing any symptoms. Ember has been on it ever since she tested
positive. I know there are others here who also have asymptomatic
FeLV cats on interferon alpha.I think it's a good can't hurt/might
help precaution.
Along
Hi, thank you for your response. The only thing with human alpha is
that kitties will eventually develop antibodies to it and will stop
working after several weeks (and don't know how it does with 7 days on
and 7 days off protocol) -- With FOI - you won't have to worry about it
.. I don't know
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