Re: [Felvtalk] Singing to Cats

2010-12-27 Thread Lorrie
On 12-26, Katy Doyle wrote: This might sound silly, but I sing to my cats. Like when I'm taming and socializing feral kittens... It seems to work and I have fun :-) It's good to know I'm not the only one who makes up silly little songs to sing to my cats :-) Lorrie

[Felvtalk] all Whimsy wants is to go outside

2010-12-27 Thread Emeraldkittee
Thanks, Laurie - I couldn't pill him, so have to try this.  he's hiding and acting very feral again, cringes and runs when I come near him.   All he wants is to go outside, he perks up at the smell of air.  this is against my better judgement, but he's so depressed and will die unless I get

Re: [Felvtalk] Singing to Cats

2010-12-27 Thread Edna Taylor
When I clean house I always have the boom box on and a couple of my cats love the loud music so I pick them up and dance with them and they just purrr and pu :) Crazy cats :) Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 07:58:11 -0500 From: felineres...@kvinet.com To:

Re: [Felvtalk] all Whimsy wants is to go outside

2010-12-27 Thread Natalie
I wouldn't worry too much if he's not eating until 2-3 days. When we first get feral cats, they either eat like there's no tomorrow, or they don't eat at all. By day two, I start fussing with different foods.they never go beyond that time. Might it help to keep him in a large dog crate?

Re: [Felvtalk] Singing to Cats

2010-12-27 Thread Emeraldkittee
we do this too! :)  I also have one kitty who loves Pilates dvd workouts and watches them; another who loves the Three Stoges. --- On Mon, 12/27/10, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote: From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Singing to Cats To:

Re: [Felvtalk] Singing to Cats

2010-12-27 Thread Edna Taylor
HA HA HA :) Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 08:03:00 -0800 From: emeraldkit...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Singing to Cats we do this too! :) I also have one kitty who loves Pilates dvd workouts and watches them; another who loves the Three Stoges.

[Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Peggy Verdonck
Hi, Just a quick question. At what age do you guys have your male kittens neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten (not sure exactly, found him at a gas station). We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and I was thinking to have him neutered at the same time because it would save us a lot of

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Katy Doyle
Many of the vets I use with rescues want the kitten to weigh 2 pounds, age doesn't matter. --Katy On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Peggy Verdonck jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Just a quick question. At what age do you guys have your male kittens neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week

Re: [Felvtalk] all Whimsy wants is to go outside

2010-12-27 Thread terrie
I agree crating the kitty would be a good idea so he does appreciate being out. I have feral and semi cats on my property when needed I will trap them and thengo into huge dog crates or wire cages until they are better. This certainly makes the process easier and better all around. (They are all

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Gloria Lane
We neuter young I think it's 3 pounds. Not all vets do that though. Gloria Sent from my iPhone On Dec 27, 2010, at 10:29 AM, Peggy Verdonck jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Just a quick question. At what age do you guys have your male kittens neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread terrie
I have all my kittens spayed/neutered when they are 2-3 pounds feral or not. Normally they are about 10-12 weeks old at this time. In male kittens if the testicles are showing this is great they can be done! So this would be a good time to do it. TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE COLLIE

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Edna Taylor
My vet prefers for them to weigh 3-4 pounds before surgery (usually 16 weeks) Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:33:58 -0500 From: athenapities...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males Many of the vets I use with rescues want the kitten to weigh 2

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread terrie
Would like to add my Vets do the spaying/neutering at the lightest weight of 2 pounds. When I do take my kittens in they range from 2-3 pounds. They are given some of the vaccines and tattooed while under. All are tested for the viral diseases. TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE COLLIE

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Peggy Verdonck
I have to weigh him, but I'm sure he is at least over 2 pounds. I will also call the vet and ask how much he has to weigh. Can you have a young kitten like that vaccinated against Felv? 2010/12/27 ter...@tazzys.org Would like to add my Vets do the spaying/neutering at the lightest weight of 2

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Peggy Verdonck
I guess he is good.he weighs over 4 pounds!! 2010/12/27 Peggy Verdonck jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com I have to weigh him, but I'm sure he is at least over 2 pounds. I will also call the vet and ask how much he has to weigh. Can you have a young kitten like that vaccinated against Felv?

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread terrie
Yes, they can be given the FELV vaccines. TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUESultan, WA. 98294Terrie Mohr-Forkerhttp://tazzys.org/Non-Profit national rescue Dedicated to the welfare of animals. Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved. Original Message

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread terrie
LOL...guess he is good to go for his neutering! Big boy! TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUESultan, WA. 98294Terrie Mohr-Forkerhttp://tazzys.org/Non-Profit national rescue Dedicated to the welfare of animals. Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved. Original

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Peggy Verdonck
Yes, he is a big boy! We found him at a gas station about 3 weeks ago. He was a little skinny but not bad. The people from the gas station put food out for him. We had to trap him because he was completely wild and feral. And now...the sweetest kittens you can imagine!! He is still separated

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread terrie
All fingers and paws crossed here for the boy! Good luck! TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUESultan, WA. 98294Terrie Mohr-Forkerhttp://tazzys.org/Non-Profit national rescue Dedicated to the welfare of animals. Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved.

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Peggy Verdonck
Thank you! :-) 2010/12/27 ter...@tazzys.org All fingers and paws crossed here for the boy! Good luck! TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Sultan, WA. 98294 Terrie Mohr-Forker http://tazzys.org/ Non-Profit national rescue Dedicated to the welfare of animals. Copyright ©

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Kelley Saveika
We do ours at 6 months; our vet will not do them before that, and from what I've read about the bad possible side effects of early s/n in dogs I can't blame him. On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote: My vet prefers for them to weigh 3-4 pounds before surgery

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Susan Hoffman
We do them at 2 pounds/2 months in northern California. With the girls we may wait till they are closer to 3 pounds though. Cats can start going into heat at 4-1/2 months. And with the boys, the sooner they are neutered the less likely they are to become sprayers. If you are planning on

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Natalie
Just make sure that the vet knows how to deal with neutering such a small kitten - not all do! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:34 AM To:

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Natalie
I personally do NOT neuter/spay until much later and have never had a sprayer.my vet doesn't like doing it that early, and believes that neutering males so early has some possible future risks that are not yet known. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Kim
I usually wait until they are 6 months old also. However, I currently have a litter of 1 female and 2 males and I was wanting to get it done before they became sexually mature. I have them scheduled for the middle of January and they will be only 4 1/2 months old. What are the future health

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Gloria Lane
Right our vet does 2 lb 2 mo for boys also and later for girls. We never have problems with the early neuter but like someone said *not all vets do it* - not all are experienced at doing it. So probably good to get one who's done it before and you trust. Gloria Sent from my iPhone On Dec

[Felvtalk] Jersey City NJ: FELV+ Gino needs a home

2010-12-27 Thread Beverly Parsons
JerseyCats, a volunteer-run, foster-based rescue in Northern New Jersey is still looking for a home for Gino, a two year old FELV+ cat. Please read more about Gino on our home page: www.jerseycats.org or on petfinder: http://www.petfinder.com/petdetail/17695711. Gino is gorgeous and lovable,

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Natalie
I've only heard that especially for males, if they're too young and not sexually mature, there could be urinary problems in the futurefor females, it seems OK to do it early. Right now, I have one female and 2 males of about 6-7 months of age. they're not large - absolutely no sign of

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Susan Hoffman
It's different if you are a rescue who places animals for adoption. In California it is illegal for a 501(c)(3) non-profit to adopt out an unaltered animal. Also, we have so many vets in Northern California who are very experienced at early age spay/neuter. It's the standard here and the

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Natalie
I am a rescue group - but we don't have any laws in CT to alter them before adoptions. Probably a great idea! I keep in personal contact with adopters and make absolutely sure that they spay/neuter at the appropriate times. But they found that even though people pay for the spay/neuter at the

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Susan Hoffman
Unfortunately that has been the experience of too many people. Even with a contract and a spay/neuter deposit it does not happen. Or it doesn't happen until after that little surprise litter from a 7 month old cat. Early age spay/neuter goes a long way towards reducing pet overpopulation.

[Felvtalk] Boo not eating either

2010-12-27 Thread Beth
My foster FeLV kitty Boo is not eating, either. Shelter ran full blood work which was normal had 2 vets look her over. She swallows a lot like you do when you are coming down with a cold, but the vets said she had no fever her throat looked OK. She ate 2 small pieces of chicken some baby

Re: [Felvtalk] Boo not eating either

2010-12-27 Thread Emeraldkittee
Beth   I am so sorry to hear this, I totally feel your pain.  I wondered if they get so stressed at the vet they also clench their teeth and maybe some how hurt their tongue/mouth, so it hurts to chew?  It sounds silly, but I was trying to think of everything.  I am so glad the cypro is working

Re: [Felvtalk] Boo not eating either

2010-12-27 Thread Laurieskatz
Swallowing can be symptom of nausea. Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to animals; they are

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Peggy Verdonck
Wow, I went outside for a little bit to ride one of our horses.bunches of new replies :-) All our other cats were around 9 months old when spayed or neutered. I'm from the Netherlands and there are not many vets that will do it earlier then that. I've been reading and listening to the pros

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Lorrie
Kelley, Our vet says exactly the same thing, so we s/n at 6 months. On 12-27, Kelley Saveika wrote: We do ours at 6 months; our vet will not do them before that, and from what I've read about the bad possible side effects of early s/n in dogs I can't blame him.

Re: [Felvtalk] all Whimsy wants is to go outside

2010-12-27 Thread MaiMaiPG
Can you fix an enclosure for him outside? He could spend some time out there then come in? On Dec 27, 2010, at 7:40 AM, Emeraldkittee wrote: Thanks, Laurie - I couldn't pill him, so have to try this. he's hiding and acting very feral again, cringes and runs when I come near him. All he

Re: [Felvtalk] all Whimsy wants is to go outside

2010-12-27 Thread Emeraldkittee
we are talking about that now - we were planning on it in the spring, but it's 6 below zero today, so we have to figure it out now and what is doable in this weather. (and how not to upset him when building it) --- On Mon, 12/27/10, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: From: MaiMaiPG

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread terrie
I totally agree it is the law here as well. Being a rescue and non-profit we do all kittens after they reach the desired weight before they are adopted out. Matter of fact I do not list any kittens until they have been done. I have 3 litters going next week with their moms to be altered. Yes, they

Re: [Felvtalk] all Whimsy wants is to go outside

2010-12-27 Thread Laurieskatz
I would not just let him go...he may be trying to find a place to hide and then you will never find him. I like the enclosure idea. Even if you could take him outside in a carrier... Thoughts and prayers with you. Such a tough thing when they won't eat. Did the vet suggest an anti nausea pill?

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread terrie
DITTO here! TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUESultan, WA. 98294Terrie Mohr-Forkerhttp://tazzys.org/Non-Profit national rescue Dedicated to the welfare of animals. Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved. Original Message Subject: Re: [Felvtalk]

[Felvtalk] Are vaccinations safe for dogs and cats

2010-12-27 Thread Natalie
Here's an interesting article on vaccines: http://www.examiner.com/pet-health-in-national/pet-health-101-are-vaccinatio ns-safe-for-dogs-and-cats ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Kelley Saveika
I figure that amazingly enough he's been to vet school and I haven't. The local low cost spay and neuter places (I call them chop n shops) will do them at 3 months, but their primary concern is that all animals be spayed and neutered no matter what, and they killed one of our kittens with a

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread janine paton
Last year we had a brother/sister feral pair just in, crated together and when spayed 2 wks later at 5 1/2 mos, the female was pregnant already with one kitten. We can't afford to spay.neuter every single litter we take on right away, but follow up like crazy with adoptions and our rule is

Re: [Felvtalk] all Whimsy wants is to go outside

2010-12-27 Thread MaiMaiPG
Believe it or not, there are baby carriages for cats and dogs. Ebony and Mitu had a 12x6x 6 foot tall dog kennel converted to a katt screened in porch. There was a piece of ductwork that went in the bathroom window. They went through a pet door into the ductwork then into the kennel

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Belinda Sauro
My Vet spays and neuters when they are 4 lbs, so all of my guys were done about a month ago. 2 boys and a girl, all did fine. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread MaiMaiPG
Sometimes you have to take the chance and pray you are right. I had a little girl spayed early..she had to stay at the vet's until she weighed enough and that was expensive. I think it was worth it though. She has a wonderful home and will have no kittens. She was a tiny feral and

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Natalie
I had one kitten that I trapped at the dump, she was spayed early, very early. She was never the same after thatI will continue sticking to my 6 months for both sexes and make sure they are spayed (our cats are strictly indoor anyway). I have never had any problems in 18 1/2 yrs with people