Re: [Felvtalk] OT - will kittens born to mom with URI have URI?
Thanks Jenny! The babies were born on Easter (5 of them). The only symptoms the mama has are: she is hoarse when she purrs and she sounds like she is swallowing mucous sometimes. Foster mom started L Lysine on Monday. She is keeping a close eye (she had a mama and litter last summer for whom she had to syringe feed because of severe URI). Fortunately she is a nurse. Btw these are cats that come into a no kill shelter ready to deliver. My friend takes about one mom each year and finds homes for everyone, too. She is a angel! I will share your email with her. Thank-you! Laurie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of jbero tds.net Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 12:37 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT - will kittens born to mom with URI have URI? URIs in a mother can certainly be transmitted to the kittens after birth. It depends on the phase of infection the mother is in. If she is infectious when the kittens are born, certainly transmission is possible. If the infection is resolving, she will be less likely to transmit disease and will often have a good immune response that will be conferred to the young through her breast milk. With respect to the URI being transmitted prior to birth. This is unlikely. URIs are generally passed from one cat to another through either inhalation or direct contact. Therefore, the young will not be born with URIs. (It could, however, be transmitted this way after birth as mother and young are in very close contact) The concern that I would have, however, is if the mother has a systemic infection (involving the blood stream) that could be transmitted to the young while in utero. If it clinically just looks like a URI (runny nose, sneeze, cough, runny eyes, pussy or purulent discharge) I would be less concerned, If, on the other hand, she has a high fever, is lethargic and not eating, I would be more concerned. Either way, I would recommend treating the mom with something that can be safely used during pregnancy. Good luck. Jenny On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Laurieskatz wrote: > A friend just took in a pregnant cat yesterday (she was taken to a no kill > shelter this week). She thinks the cat might deliver today. > > She thinks she might have an URI. Does anyone know if the kittens will have > or contract the URI? > > Thanks, > > Laurie > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT - will kittens born to mom with URI have URI?
URIs in a mother can certainly be transmitted to the kittens after birth. It depends on the phase of infection the mother is in. If she is infectious when the kittens are born, certainly transmission is possible. If the infection is resolving, she will be less likely to transmit disease and will often have a good immune response that will be conferred to the young through her breast milk. With respect to the URI being transmitted prior to birth. This is unlikely. URIs are generally passed from one cat to another through either inhalation or direct contact. Therefore, the young will not be born with URIs. (It could, however, be transmitted this way after birth as mother and young are in very close contact) The concern that I would have, however, is if the mother has a systemic infection (involving the blood stream) that could be transmitted to the young while in utero. If it clinically just looks like a URI (runny nose, sneeze, cough, runny eyes, pussy or purulent discharge) I would be less concerned, If, on the other hand, she has a high fever, is lethargic and not eating, I would be more concerned. Either way, I would recommend treating the mom with something that can be safely used during pregnancy. Good luck. Jenny On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Laurieskatz wrote: > A friend just took in a pregnant cat yesterday (she was taken to a no kill > shelter this week). She thinks the cat might deliver today. > > She thinks she might have an URI. Does anyone know if the kittens will have > or contract the URI? > > Thanks, > > Laurie > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT - will kittens born to mom with URI have URI?
Thank-you to everyone for responding!
I have forwarded responses to foster mom.
Laurie
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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 1:08 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT - will kittens born to mom with URI have URI?
I'd probably use Azithromycin, preferably.
Gloria
On Apr 13, 2009, at 12:23 PM, Laurieskatz wrote:
> Thank-you for this. The five babies were born last night. The mom
> sounds
> like she has mucous in her throat when she swallows and her purr
> sounds
> hoarse but there are no other symptoms. The foster mom started l
> lysine.
> Mama kitty ("Spring") is eating. No discharge from eyes or nose.
> Symptoms
> have not worsened since she got there Saturday noon so foster mom is
> hopeful
> this is not a URI. Any thoughts based on symptoms? Still think she
> should
> treat the mama?
> Thank-you!\
> Laurie
>
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> patricia.a.elk...@gsk.com
> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 12:11 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT - will kittens born to mom with URI have
> URI?
>
> My experience has been that the kittens will get the URI and it can
> be a
> killer.
> I would personally get the mom on an antibiotic right away and get
> some
> antibiotic that can
> be given to the kittens from birth. Just the tiniest amount can save
> kittens.
>
> It is by far the best idea to aggressively treat the mom before the
> kittens are born and not
> wait around while the URI gets worse. Lots of sick moms will stop
> nursing
> or licking the kittens at all
> when they get very congested. And the moms may stop eating so no
> milk.
> The kittens will have the best chance to survive if the fosterer can
> get
> the mom through the worst
> of it before the kittens arrive.
>
> Generally, an antibiotic is critical even if the URI is a virus. A
> vaporizer or humidifier is extremely
> helpful because congestion makes the mom miserable and she may stop
> eating
> if she can't smell.
> When the fosterer takes her to the vet to get her looked at, they
> should
> definitely get the vet
> to discuss and prescribe for congestion.
>
> We have just gone through this in my rescue group for several
> litters in
> which all kittens died.
> I don't want to be too negative but want to get across that it is
> not a
> time to take a wait and see attitude until they are all very sick.
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] OT - will kittens born to mom with URI have URI?
I'd probably use Azithromycin, preferably.
Gloria
On Apr 13, 2009, at 12:23 PM, Laurieskatz wrote:
Thank-you for this. The five babies were born last night. The mom
sounds
like she has mucous in her throat when she swallows and her purr
sounds
hoarse but there are no other symptoms. The foster mom started l
lysine.
Mama kitty ("Spring") is eating. No discharge from eyes or nose.
Symptoms
have not worsened since she got there Saturday noon so foster mom is
hopeful
this is not a URI. Any thoughts based on symptoms? Still think she
should
treat the mama?
Thank-you!\
Laurie
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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
patricia.a.elk...@gsk.com
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 12:11 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT - will kittens born to mom with URI have
URI?
My experience has been that the kittens will get the URI and it can
be a
killer.
I would personally get the mom on an antibiotic right away and get
some
antibiotic that can
be given to the kittens from birth. Just the tiniest amount can save
kittens.
It is by far the best idea to aggressively treat the mom before the
kittens are born and not
wait around while the URI gets worse. Lots of sick moms will stop
nursing
or licking the kittens at all
when they get very congested. And the moms may stop eating so no
milk.
The kittens will have the best chance to survive if the fosterer can
get
the mom through the worst
of it before the kittens arrive.
Generally, an antibiotic is critical even if the URI is a virus. A
vaporizer or humidifier is extremely
helpful because congestion makes the mom miserable and she may stop
eating
if she can't smell.
When the fosterer takes her to the vet to get her looked at, they
should
definitely get the vet
to discuss and prescribe for congestion.
We have just gone through this in my rescue group for several
litters in
which all kittens died.
I don't want to be too negative but want to get across that it is
not a
time to take a wait and see attitude until they are all very sick.
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Re: [Felvtalk] OT - will kittens born to mom with URI have URI?
If the mom is eating and caring for the kittens, they can relax some but
I'd like to
emphasize that they should take the whole litter to the vet at the first
sign that there
is anything wrong with the kittens. Or get some antibiotic like clavamox
to have
on hand if possible. Lysine is good.
I wish you and them the very best of luck!
"Laurieskatz"
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Re: [Felvtalk] OT - will kittens born to mom with URI have URI?
Thank-you for this. The five babies were born last night. The mom sounds
like she has mucous in her throat when she swallows and her purr sounds
hoarse but there are no other symptoms. The foster mom started l lysine.
Mama kitty ("Spring") is eating. No discharge from eyes or nose. Symptoms
have not worsened since she got there Saturday noon so foster mom is
hopeful
this is not a URI. Any thoughts based on symptoms? Still think she should
treat the mama?
Thank-you!\
Laurie
-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
patricia.a.elk...@gsk.com
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 12:11 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT - will kittens born to mom with URI have URI?
My experience has been that the kittens will get the URI and it can be a
killer.
I would personally get the mom on an antibiotic right away and get some
antibiotic that can
be given to the kittens from birth. Just the tiniest amount can save
kittens.
It is by far the best idea to aggressively treat the mom before the
kittens are born and not
wait around while the URI gets worse. Lots of sick moms will stop nursing
or licking the kittens at all
when they get very congested. And the moms may stop eating so no milk.
The kittens will have the best chance to survive if the fosterer can get
the mom through the worst
of it before the kittens arrive.
Generally, an antibiotic is critical even if the URI is a virus. A
vaporizer or humidifier is extremely
helpful because congestion makes the mom miserable and she may stop eating
if she can't smell.
When the fosterer takes her to the vet to get her looked at, they should
definitely get the vet
to discuss and prescribe for congestion.
We have just gone through this in my rescue group for several litters in
which all kittens died.
I don't want to be too negative but want to get across that it is not a
time to take a wait and see attitude until they are all very sick.
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Re: [Felvtalk] OT - will kittens born to mom with URI have URI?
Thank-you for this. The five babies were born last night. The mom sounds
like she has mucous in her throat when she swallows and her purr sounds
hoarse but there are no other symptoms. The foster mom started l lysine.
Mama kitty ("Spring") is eating. No discharge from eyes or nose. Symptoms
have not worsened since she got there Saturday noon so foster mom is hopeful
this is not a URI. Any thoughts based on symptoms? Still think she should
treat the mama?
Thank-you!\
Laurie
-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
patricia.a.elk...@gsk.com
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 12:11 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT - will kittens born to mom with URI have URI?
My experience has been that the kittens will get the URI and it can be a
killer.
I would personally get the mom on an antibiotic right away and get some
antibiotic that can
be given to the kittens from birth. Just the tiniest amount can save
kittens.
It is by far the best idea to aggressively treat the mom before the
kittens are born and not
wait around while the URI gets worse. Lots of sick moms will stop nursing
or licking the kittens at all
when they get very congested. And the moms may stop eating so no milk.
The kittens will have the best chance to survive if the fosterer can get
the mom through the worst
of it before the kittens arrive.
Generally, an antibiotic is critical even if the URI is a virus. A
vaporizer or humidifier is extremely
helpful because congestion makes the mom miserable and she may stop eating
if she can't smell.
When the fosterer takes her to the vet to get her looked at, they should
definitely get the vet
to discuss and prescribe for congestion.
We have just gone through this in my rescue group for several litters in
which all kittens died.
I don't want to be too negative but want to get across that it is not a
time to take a wait and see attitude until they are all very sick.
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Re: [Felvtalk] OT - will kittens born to mom with URI have URI?
My experience has been that the kittens will get the URI and it can be a killer. I would personally get the mom on an antibiotic right away and get some antibiotic that can be given to the kittens from birth. Just the tiniest amount can save kittens. It is by far the best idea to aggressively treat the mom before the kittens are born and not wait around while the URI gets worse. Lots of sick moms will stop nursing or licking the kittens at all when they get very congested. And the moms may stop eating so no milk. The kittens will have the best chance to survive if the fosterer can get the mom through the worst of it before the kittens arrive. Generally, an antibiotic is critical even if the URI is a virus. A vaporizer or humidifier is extremely helpful because congestion makes the mom miserable and she may stop eating if she can't smell. When the fosterer takes her to the vet to get her looked at, they should definitely get the vet to discuss and prescribe for congestion. We have just gone through this in my rescue group for several litters in which all kittens died. I don't want to be too negative but want to get across that it is not a time to take a wait and see attitude until they are all very sick. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT - will kittens born to mom with URI have URI?
In my experience many times they do pick up the URI. URI's are very contagious. They can usually be treated with mild antibiotics a short time after birth though and are usually ok. All cases are different though. I hope they thrive and do very well. Tanya --- On Sun, 4/12/09, Laurieskatz wrote: > From: Laurieskatz > Subject: [Felvtalk] OT - will kittens born to mom with URI have URI? > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Sunday, April 12, 2009, 3:54 PM > A friend just took in a pregnant cat yesterday (she was > taken to a no kill > shelter this week). She thinks the cat might deliver today. > > She thinks she might have an URI. Does anyone know if the > kittens will have > or contract the URI? > > Thanks, > > Laurie > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] OT - will kittens born to mom with URI have URI?
A friend just took in a pregnant cat yesterday (she was taken to a no kill shelter this week). She thinks the cat might deliver today. She thinks she might have an URI. Does anyone know if the kittens will have or contract the URI? Thanks, Laurie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
