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Kerry,I meant it was not good that they were asking for a specific list for the number of animals she has If I were in that position I would not do it. I would lie.t"MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm missing an email---list of what Tonya?-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonyaSent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:16 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!!Not good they want a 'list'. =00IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisorThis email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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I think that that is a very argument that I am going to make identify the definition of nuisance and convince that having more animals are not necessarily equivalent of nuisance especially if they are all indoor kept and well taken care of. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nicholena Rushton Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:41 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Unfortunately from a legal standpoint it is looked at as a public health nuisance when one has more than the generally accepted amount of animals (which differs from area to area). It does not make sense to me but considering fanimals (my own term for animals who are family) are classified as property it is the way the law looks at them, at least here in Pennsylvania. Niki P.S. I only learned all of this recently after taking an Animal Rights seminar as part of my continuing legal education credits. - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 10:33 PM Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! I truly think these ordinances are unconstitutional. How can it be illegal for you to own as many pets as you like as long as you are taking good care of them and are not disturbing anyone. Unfortunately, it takes so much money to battle these things in court. t Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone anonymously reported me that I have many cats - not any type of complains regarding that.. as my cats are all indoors, they don't bother my neighbors or anything.. it's almost like personal thing against me and nothing to do with my animals and that's how I started. And actually, I was already given a permit from the city last year - so when the city contacted me, I told them that I already have a permit - then, they couldn't find the paper work and the officer who gave me a permit no longer is the officer and they told me that he did not follow the correct process (not following the correct ordinance as to exactly how many cats I have) so I have to re-do this all over again. I do have a place that I can take my cats temporarily - I just have to do a lot of transporting.. but I am prepared to do so anyway. It just does not make sense to me logically.. my cats and I are not bothering anyone... and cats are treated well.. so why do they care??? If you know what I mean.. we don't remove children from a family just because they have too many children.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:38 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! I have never heard of anyone I know personally dealing with what you are dealing with, so I don't know for sure, but if I had to guess, I would think they would give you like 30 days to find homes for however many over the number they allow you. Then, at the end of 30 days, they will probably schedule an appointment to come by to do a head count. After that, I bet they don't bother you much and you can bring any kitties back that kind people have taken in for you for a short time so that you can pass the head count. I hope you have family or good friends nearby that will help you if it comes to that. Plus, in the future, you don't have to answer the door to anyone from animal control if you think they are coming to do a head count again. I doubt they will hassle you though. I wouldn't worry about all this just yet though Hideyo, because you will worry yourself sick. And if they end up allowing you to have your cats, then you will have worried for no reason. How in the world did this all happen in the first place? Did someone complain about your cats? __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
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oh, sweetie-- i've been off-line for more than 3 weeks with a dead computer, so just saw this--what's going on right now, i wonder? on oct 21, i got a visit from animal control, too, based on an anonymous call (i know exactly whom it came from)--flipped me out completely. i JUST passed their final inspection today. 15 seems to be a magic number, because even tho i have 23 at the moment, she said when she was here, you only have 15, right? tho she knew the exact number 3 weeks ago. will go back and read everyone's suggestions when i get a chance; just wanted to let you know that i have a good idea of what you're feeling and going through. luckily, she must have found an enlightened person re: FIV since she was here, because she didn't even mention the FIVs mixed with the others today \-- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
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Good to have you back, MC. And I'm truly sorry for all the c**p you've been going through with animal control (and nasty people) too. Welcome back! Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TenHouseCats Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! oh, sweetie-- i've been off-line for more than 3 weeks with a dead computer, so just saw this--what's going on right now, i wonder? on oct 21, i got a visit from animal control, too, based on an anonymous call (i know exactly whom it came from)--flipped me out completely. i JUST passed their final inspection today. 15 seems to be a magic number, because even tho i have 23 at the moment, she said when she was here, you only have 15, right? tho she knew the exact number 3 weeks ago. will go back and read everyone's suggestions when i get a chance; just wanted to let you know that i have a good idea of what you're feeling and going through. luckily, she must have found an enlightened person re: FIV since she was here, because she didn't even mention the FIVs mixed with the others today \-- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 hr IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor hr This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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Hideyo, I know this has got to be awful for you. Are you able to move? Could you put half your guys at your boyfriend's house? I know we have a limit here where I live, but because so many of my cats look alike (to animal control officers) and so many run and hide when someone comes over.. they would never know how many I actually have unless my vet ratted me out tHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, everyone I am in a situations where I need all your prayers! I mentioned to you a couple of weeks ago, where the animal control came over regarding having the multiple cats at my house. Well, based on the current ordinance, I could only have 5 animals even with a permit (they have a very stupid way to calculate it) so, now I have to go to a hearing. According to the city attorney, unless my neighbors has any objections (which no one does), they usually allow you to have up to 15 animals I have to now go to a hearing and present my case everyone, please pray that everything will go well and they wont take my babies away from me! I dont know what I would do without them! Also, Ginger is still not eating like she is supposed to she sipped on Liver shake a bit, but not much, so I am still force feeding she does not act like she is sick at all, which is blessing I might have to take her for a blood work if she does not get her appetite back to see if anything is going on inside of her.. please pray that she will gain her appetite back very very soon! Again, thank you for all your support!
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Hideyo, Would the limits be the same if you went ahead and got licensed as a 501c3 rescue?? tHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used to care for all mycats for the past 10 years and she is actually overseeing now the vetsection at the animal control division, which I hope to buildcreditability as the letter says how responsible and caring I am for allmy animals.Different officers came to inspect my place a few times and they wereall very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000 a couple of yearsago and built facility for my cats in addition to my main house -windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures.. etc.. and happy howwell all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I will prepare for anypossible ways for them to complain.I am also going to ask someone I know through rescuing.. she is withAnimal protection service of my state and she has a lot of credibilitywith animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still very nervous becausethey CAN take them away from me..-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendySent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!!Hi Hideyo,I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance troubles.I agree with Kerry that having someone else there asan advocate for the care you are providing is a smartidea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof thevery reasons they are having you in for a hearing inthe first place (ie. unsanitary conditions,neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons maybe). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This isthe very reason I hope to one day have some land outin the country. The city government won't be able totell me what to do with my life or my furballs. Iwill also say prayers for Ginger to begin eatingbetter again. I am sorry for your troubles and I hopethat things start looking up again. In the meantime,don't let them get you down. Keep going strong.:)Wendy__ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
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Not good they want a 'list'.
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I truly think these ordinances are unconstitutional. How can it be illegal for you to own as many pets as you like as long as you are taking good care of them and are not disturbing anyone. Unfortunately, it takes so much money to battle these things in court. tHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone anonymously reported me that I have many cats - not any type ofcomplains regarding that.. as my cats are all indoors, they don't bothermy neighbors or anything.. it's almost like "personal" thing against meand nothing to do with my animals and that's how I started. Andactually, I was already given a permit from the city last year - so whenthe city contacted me, I told them that I already have a permit - then,they couldn't find the paper work and the officer who gave me a permitno longer is the officer and they told me that he did not follow thecorrect process (not following the correct ordinance as to exactly howmany cats I have) so I have to re-do this all over again.I do have a place that I can take my cats temporarily - I just have todo a lot of transporting.. but I am prepared to do so anyway. It justdoes not make sense to me logically.. my cats and I are not botheringanyone... and cats are treated well.. so why do they care??? If you knowwhat I mean.. we don't remove children from a family just because theyhave too many children..-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendySent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:38 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!!I have never heard of anyone I know personally dealingwith what you are dealing with, so I don't know forsure, but if I had to guess, I would think they wouldgive you like 30 days to find homes for however manyover the number they allow you. Then, at the end of30 days, they will probably schedule an appointment tocome by to do a head count. After that, I bet theydon't bother you much and you can bring any kittiesback that kind people have taken in for you for ashort time so that you can pass the head count. Ihope you have family or good friends nearby that willhelp you if it comes to that. Plus, in the future,you don't have to answer the door to anyone fromanimal control if you think they are coming to do ahead count again. I doubt they will hassle youthough. I wouldn't worry about all this just yetthough Hideyo, because you will worry yourself sick. And if they end up allowing you to have your cats,then you will have worried for no reason. How in theworld did this all happen in the first place? Didsomeone complain about your cats?__ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click.http://farechase.yahoo.com
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Title: Message I'm missing an email---list of what Tonya? -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonyaSent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:16 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!!Not good they want a 'list'. =00IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisorThis email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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Unfortunately from a legal standpoint it is looked at as a "public health nuisance" when one has more than the generally accepted amount of animals (which differs from area to area). It does not make sense to me but considering "fanimals" (my own term for animals who are family) are classified as property it is the way the law looks at them, at least here in Pennsylvania. Niki P.S. I only learned all of this recently after taking an Animal Rights seminar as part of my continuing legal education credits. - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 10:33 PM Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! I truly think these ordinances are unconstitutional. How can it be illegal for you to own as many pets as you like as long as you are taking good care of them and are not disturbing anyone. Unfortunately, it takes so much money to battle these things in court. tHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone anonymously reported me that I have many cats - not any type ofcomplains regarding that.. as my cats are all indoors, they don't bothermy neighbors or anything.. it's almost like "personal" thing against meand nothing to do with my animals and that's how I started. Andactually, I was already given a permit from the city last year - so whenthe city contacted me, I told them that I already have a permit - then,they couldn't find the paper work and the officer who gave me a permitno longer is the officer and they told me that he did not follow thecorrect process (not following the correct ordinance as to exactly howmany cats I have) so I have to re-do this all over again.I do have a place that I can take my cats temporarily - I just have todo a lot of transporting.. but I am prepared to do so anyway. It justdoes not make sense to me logically.. my cats and I are not botheringanyone... and cats are treated well.. so why do they care??? If you knowwhat I mean.. we don't remove children from a family just because theyhave too many children..-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendySent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:38 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!!I have never heard of anyone I know personally dealingwith what you are dealing with, so I don't know forsure, but if I had to guess, I would think they wouldgive you like 30 days to find homes for however manyover the number they allow you. Then, at the end of30 days, they will probably schedule an appointment tocome by to do a head count. After that, I bet theydon't bother you much and you can bring any kittiesback that kind people have taken in for you for ashort time so that you can pass the head count. Ihope you have family or good friends nearby that willhelp you if it comes to that. Plus, in the future,you don't have to answer the door to anyone fromanimal control if you think they are coming to do ahead count again. I doubt they will hassle youthough. I wouldn't worry about all this just yetthough Hideyo, because you will worry yourself sick. And if they end up allowing you to have your cats,then you will have worried for no reason. How in theworld did this all happen in the first place? Didsomeone complain about your cats?__ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click.http://farechase.yahoo.com
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Title: Message because so many of my cats look alike (to animal control officers) and so many run and hide when someone comes over That's pretty funny Tonya---reminds me of last winter when our building made it mandatory for us to have their contractor come and check all our radiators. I knew the radiatorin the cats' bedroom had a problem but I'd already put off fixing it thru one winter for fear news of my 6furryroommates would leak out. By the time the year rolled around and I'd cottoned on to what "feral" really meant Ifigured I had little to fear. And sure enough, the guy came, checked and fixed the radiator without seeing so much as a whisker (I'd hidden all the cat trees etc so it just looked like a room waiting to be furnished.) All the furballsscooted into the closet as soon as they heard the dcoorbell and didn'temerge till he'd gone. Smart!. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonyaSent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:02 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Hideyo, I know this has got to be awful for you. Are you able to move? Could you put half your guys at your boyfriend's house? I know we have a limit here where I live, but because so many of my cats look alike (to animal control officers) and so many run and hide when someone comes over.. they would never know how many I actually have unless my vet ratted me out tHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, everyone I am in a situations where I need all your prayers! I mentioned to you a couple of weeks ago, where the animal control came over regarding having the multiple cats at my house. Well, based on the current ordinance, I could only have 5 animals even with a permit (they have a very stupid way to calculate it) so, now I have to go to a hearing. According to the city attorney, unless my neighbors has any objections (which no one does), they usually allow you to have up to 15 animals I have to now go to a hearing and present my case everyone, please pray that everything will go well and they wont take my babies away from me! I dont know what I would do without them! Also, Ginger is still not eating like she is supposed to she sipped on Liver shake a bit, but not much, so I am still force feeding she does not act like she is sick at all, which is blessing I might have to take her for a blood work if she does not get her appetite back to see if anything is going on inside of her.. please pray that she will gain her appetite back very very soon! Again, thank you for all your support! =00IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisorThis email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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Title: Message When I moved once, in the days with only one cat, I had three burly moving men who just moved thru the apt quickly and quietly. I thought cat had gone into the closet to hide but all of a sudden the biggest of the moving men came running over to me pleading to get the cat from under the bed as he was afraid of her! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 11:25 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! because so many of my cats look alike (to animal control officers) and so many run and hide when someone comes over That's pretty funny Tonya---reminds me of last winter when our building made it mandatory for us to have their contractor come and check all our radiators. I knew the radiatorin the cats' bedroom had a problem but I'd already put off fixing it thru one winter for fear news of my 6furryroommates would leak out. By the time the year rolled around and I'd cottoned on to what feral really meant Ifigured I had little to fear. And sure enough, the guy came, checked and fixed the radiator without seeing so much as a whisker (I'd hidden all the cat trees etc so it just looked like a room waiting to be furnished.) All the furballsscooted into the closet as soon as they heard the dcoorbell and didn'temerge till he'd gone. Smart!. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonya Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:02 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Hideyo, I know this has got to be awful for you. Are you able to move? Could you put half your guys at your boyfriend's house? I know we have a limit here where I live, but because so many of my cats look alike (to animal control officers) and so many run and hide when someone comes over.. they would never know how many I actually have unless my vet ratted me out t Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, everyone I am in a situations where I need all your prayers! I mentioned to you a couple of weeks ago, where the animal control came over regarding having the multiple cats at my house. Well, based on the current ordinance, I could only have 5 animals even with a permit (they have a very stupid way to calculate it) so, now I have to go to a hearing. According to the city attorney, unless my neighbors has any objections (which no one does), they usually allow you to have up to 15 animals I have to now go to a hearing and present my case everyone, please pray that everything will go well and they wont take my babies away from me! I dont know what I would do without them! Also, Ginger is still not eating like she is supposed to she sipped on Liver shake a bit, but not much, so I am still force feeding she does not act like she is sick at all, which is blessing I might have to take her for a blood work if she does not get her appetite back to see if anything is going on inside of her.. please pray that she will gain her appetite back very very soon! Again, thank you for all your support! =00IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisorThis email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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Hi Hideyo, I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance troubles. I agree with Kerry that having someone else there as an advocate for the care you are providing is a smart idea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions, neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may be). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This is the very reason I hope to one day have some land out in the country. The city government won't be able to tell me what to do with my life or my furballs. I will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating better again. I am sorry for your troubles and I hope that things start looking up again. In the meantime, don't let them get you down. Keep going strong. :) Wendy __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
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Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used to care for all my cats for the past 10 years and she is actually overseeing now the vet section at the animal control division, which I hope to build creditability as the letter says how responsible and caring I am for all my animals. Different officers came to inspect my place a few times and they were all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000 a couple of years ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my main house - windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures.. etc.. and happy how well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I will prepare for any possible ways for them to complain. I am also going to ask someone I know through rescuing.. she is with Animal protection service of my state and she has a lot of credibility with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still very nervous because they CAN take them away from me.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Hi Hideyo, I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance troubles. I agree with Kerry that having someone else there as an advocate for the care you are providing is a smart idea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions, neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may be). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This is the very reason I hope to one day have some land out in the country. The city government won't be able to tell me what to do with my life or my furballs. I will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating better again. I am sorry for your troubles and I hope that things start looking up again. In the meantime, don't let them get you down. Keep going strong. :) Wendy __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
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Hear hear. That's a very sound suggestion--going in overly prepared, with facts (as opposed to appealing to their compassionate side---which they may well not possess in any case). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:52 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Hi Hideyo, I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance troubles. I agree with Kerry that having someone else there as an advocate for the care you are providing is a smart idea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions, neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may be). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This is the very reason I hope to one day have some land out in the country. The city government won't be able to tell me what to do with my life or my furballs. I will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating better again. I am sorry for your troubles and I hope that things start looking up again. In the meantime, don't let them get you down. Keep going strong. :) Wendy __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com hr IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor hr This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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Sending GLOW and love and support your way and tolerance and acceptance to the holders of the hearing Your babies need you as much as you need them!! HUGSHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, everyone I am in a situations where I need all your prayers! I mentioned to you a couple of weeks ago, where the animal control came over regarding having the multiple cats at my house. Well, based on the current ordinance, I could only have 5 animals even with a permit (they have a very stupid way to calculate it) so, now I have to go to a hearing. According to the city attorney, unless my neighbors has any objections (which no one does), they usually allow you to have up to 15 animals I have to now go to a hearing and present my case everyone, please pray that everything will go well and they wont take my babies away from me! I dont know what I would do without them! Also, Ginger is still not eating like she is supposed to she sipped on Liver shake a bit, but not much, so I am still force feeding she does not act like she is sick at all, which is blessing I might have to take her for a blood work if she does not get her appetite back to see if anything is going on inside of her.. please pray that she will gain her appetite back very very soon! Again, thank you for all your support!Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.
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Hideyo, I'm so sorry - lots of prayers and good vibes for you and your babies. Gloria At 12:31 PM 11/7/2005, you wrote: Hi, everyone I am in a situations where I need all your prayers! I mentioned to you a couple of weeks ago, where the animal control came over regarding having the multiple cats at my house. Well, based on the current ordinance, I could only have 5 animals even with a permit (they have a very stupid way to calculate it) so, now I have to go to a hearing. According to the city attorney, unless my neighbors has any objections (which no one does), they usually allow you to have up to 15 animals I have to now go to a hearing and present my case everyone, please pray that everything will go well and they wont take my babies away from me! I dont know what I would do without them! Also, Ginger is still not eating like she is supposed to she sipped on Liver shake a bit, but not much, so I am still force feeding she does not act like she is sick at all, which is blessing I might have to take her for a blood work if she does not get her appetite back to see if anything is going on inside of her.. please pray that she will gain her appetite back very very soon! Again, thank you for all your support!
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There is a case in PA, where the city gave a lady a citation for having like 25 to 35 cats and she actually appealed to the PA state court and actually the state court ruled against the city's ruling saying that, having numerous number of cats itself merely do not prove the presence of nuisance, - should I bring a stuff like that??? What other factual information should I bring?? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:09 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! Hear hear. That's a very sound suggestion--going in overly prepared, with facts (as opposed to appealing to their compassionate side---which they may well not possess in any case). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:52 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Hi Hideyo, I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance troubles. I agree with Kerry that having someone else there as an advocate for the care you are providing is a smart idea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions, neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may be). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This is the very reason I hope to one day have some land out in the country. The city government won't be able to tell me what to do with my life or my furballs. I will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating better again. I am sorry for your troubles and I hope that things start looking up again. In the meantime, don't let them get you down. Keep going strong. :) Wendy __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com hr IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor hr This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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Many prayers for you and your situation -- and of course for sweet Ginger!
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Thank you very much!! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Loesch Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Many prayers for you and your situation -- and of course for sweet Ginger!
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I hope so.. but you know.. you just never know.. pictures are great ideas - I will take pictures of my cats (some of them) as they usually want to see how animals are doing.. what do you think? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:18 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! Wow---Hideyo, it seems like you have the possibility of some powerful people on your side. You will be using them right? Wow againyour facility---can you take photos of your facility and receipts for the work to the hearing to show how much work you're done to prove you are the last person they should be summonsing--that's a lot of . I know how worried you must be, but I can't think of anything else you could do---you've taken care of everything. Just make sure THEY know it. Bombard them with info, documentation, support from the ex-vet-now head of animal control and the officers who were so impressed (as they should be). Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used to care for all my cats for the past 10 years and she is actually overseeing now the vet section at the animal control division, which I hope to build creditability as the letter says how responsible and caring I am for all my animals. Different officers came to inspect my place a few times and they were all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000 a couple of years ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my main house - windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures.. etc.. and happy how well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I will prepare for any possible ways for them to complain. I am also going to ask someone I know through rescuing.. she is with Animal protection service of my state and she has a lot of credibility with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still very nervous because they CAN take them away from me.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Hi Hideyo, I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance troubles. I agree with Kerry that having someone else there as an advocate for the care you are providing is a smart idea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions, neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may be). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This is the very reason I hope to one day have some land out in the country. The city government won't be able to tell me what to do with my life or my furballs. I will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating better again. I am sorry for your troubles and I hope that things start looking up again. In the meantime, don't let them get you down. Keep going strong. :) Wendy __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com hr IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor hr This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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Bring everything you can. Better to have than not to have with you on the day. I've never been to one of those but I'd say beter to come prepared to make a factual presentation--as opposed to simply passively answering their Qs ??? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:18 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! There is a case in PA, where the city gave a lady a citation for having like 25 to 35 cats and she actually appealed to the PA state court and actually the state court ruled against the city's ruling saying that, having numerous number of cats itself merely do not prove the presence of nuisance, - should I bring a stuff like that??? What other factual information should I bring?? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:09 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! Hear hear. That's a very sound suggestion--going in overly prepared, with facts (as opposed to appealing to their compassionate side---which they may well not possess in any case). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:52 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Hi Hideyo, I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance troubles. I agree with Kerry that having someone else there as an advocate for the care you are providing is a smart idea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions, neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may be). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This is the very reason I hope to one day have some land out in the country. The city government won't be able to tell me what to do with my life or my furballs. I will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating better again. I am sorry for your troubles and I hope that things start looking up again. In the meantime, don't let them get you down. Keep going strong. :) Wendy __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com hr IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor hr This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. hr IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor hr This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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I meant pix of the facility from all angles showing all the work you had done. (The cats will be in the pix anyway) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:21 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! I hope so.. but you know.. you just never know.. pictures are great ideas - I will take pictures of my cats (some of them) as they usually want to see how animals are doing.. what do you think? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:18 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! Wow---Hideyo, it seems like you have the possibility of some powerful people on your side. You will be using them right? Wow againyour facility---can you take photos of your facility and receipts for the work to the hearing to show how much work you're done to prove you are the last person they should be summonsing--that's a lot of . I know how worried you must be, but I can't think of anything else you could do---you've taken care of everything. Just make sure THEY know it. Bombard them with info, documentation, support from the ex-vet-now head of animal control and the officers who were so impressed (as they should be). Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used to care for all my cats for the past 10 years and she is actually overseeing now the vet section at the animal control division, which I hope to build creditability as the letter says how responsible and caring I am for all my animals. Different officers came to inspect my place a few times and they were all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000 a couple of years ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my main house - windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures.. etc.. and happy how well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I will prepare for any possible ways for them to complain. I am also going to ask someone I know through rescuing.. she is with Animal protection service of my state and she has a lot of credibility with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still very nervous because they CAN take them away from me.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Hi Hideyo, I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance troubles. I agree with Kerry that having someone else there as an advocate for the care you are providing is a smart idea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions, neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may be). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This is the very reason I hope to one day have some land out in the country. The city government won't be able to tell me what to do with my life or my furballs. I will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating better again. I am sorry for your troubles and I hope that things start looking up again. In the meantime, don't let them get you down. Keep going strong. :) Wendy __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com hr IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor hr This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. hr IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax
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Yep.. sorry, I knew that's what you meant.. Last time, when they came over, they wanted to meet every cat I had (I gave a list of their names),,, just so that they know they look healthy.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:22 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! I meant pix of the facility from all angles showing all the work you had done. (The cats will be in the pix anyway) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:21 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! I hope so.. but you know.. you just never know.. pictures are great ideas - I will take pictures of my cats (some of them) as they usually want to see how animals are doing.. what do you think? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:18 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! Wow---Hideyo, it seems like you have the possibility of some powerful people on your side. You will be using them right? Wow againyour facility---can you take photos of your facility and receipts for the work to the hearing to show how much work you're done to prove you are the last person they should be summonsing--that's a lot of . I know how worried you must be, but I can't think of anything else you could do---you've taken care of everything. Just make sure THEY know it. Bombard them with info, documentation, support from the ex-vet-now head of animal control and the officers who were so impressed (as they should be). Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used to care for all my cats for the past 10 years and she is actually overseeing now the vet section at the animal control division, which I hope to build creditability as the letter says how responsible and caring I am for all my animals. Different officers came to inspect my place a few times and they were all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000 a couple of years ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my main house - windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures.. etc.. and happy how well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I will prepare for any possible ways for them to complain. I am also going to ask someone I know through rescuing.. she is with Animal protection service of my state and she has a lot of credibility with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still very nervous because they CAN take them away from me.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Hi Hideyo, I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance troubles. I agree with Kerry that having someone else there as an advocate for the care you are providing is a smart idea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions, neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may be). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This is the very reason I hope to one day have some land out in the country. The city government won't be able to tell me what to do with my life or my furballs. I will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating better again. I am sorry for your troubles and I hope that things start looking up again. In the meantime, don't let them get you down. Keep going strong. :) Wendy __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com hr IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor hr This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom
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Ah, yes, good idea. Very good idea. Pix of building, indoors and out, plus cats shown in the building, plus closeups of cats to show how well they are. Plus receipts of all the meds you buy including homeopathic. Hideyo, no one cares for cats better than you---I hope some of those people sitting in judgment have a cat or two---you can be sure they will be secretly thinking, wow, this woman takes far, far better care of/spends far more $$ on her cats than I do. But they'll never tell you that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:24 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! Yep.. sorry, I knew that's what you meant.. Last time, when they came over, they wanted to meet every cat I had (I gave a list of their names),,, just so that they know they look healthy.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:22 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! I meant pix of the facility from all angles showing all the work you had done. (The cats will be in the pix anyway) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:21 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! I hope so.. but you know.. you just never know.. pictures are great ideas - I will take pictures of my cats (some of them) as they usually want to see how animals are doing.. what do you think? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:18 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! Wow---Hideyo, it seems like you have the possibility of some powerful people on your side. You will be using them right? Wow againyour facility---can you take photos of your facility and receipts for the work to the hearing to show how much work you're done to prove you are the last person they should be summonsing--that's a lot of . I know how worried you must be, but I can't think of anything else you could do---you've taken care of everything. Just make sure THEY know it. Bombard them with info, documentation, support from the ex-vet-now head of animal control and the officers who were so impressed (as they should be). Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used to care for all my cats for the past 10 years and she is actually overseeing now the vet section at the animal control division, which I hope to build creditability as the letter says how responsible and caring I am for all my animals. Different officers came to inspect my place a few times and they were all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000 a couple of years ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my main house - windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures.. etc.. and happy how well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I will prepare for any possible ways for them to complain. I am also going to ask someone I know through rescuing.. she is with Animal protection service of my state and she has a lot of credibility with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still very nervous because they CAN take them away from me.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Hi Hideyo, I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance troubles. I agree with Kerry that having someone else there as an advocate for the care you are providing is a smart idea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions, neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may be). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This is the very reason I hope to one day have some land out in the country. The city government won't be able to tell me what to do with my life or my furballs. I will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating better again. I am sorry for your troubles and I hope that things start looking up again. In the meantime, don't let them get you down. Keep going strong. :) Wendy __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com hr IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender
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Hideyo, The suggestions given sound good, being prepared with pictures of your habitat, receipts for medical and housing costs etc. Could you write up some sort of acknowledgment of your general good deeds in caring for the cats? Get as many signatures on it as possible, vets, neighbors, etc. How much time do you have before the hearing? I know the folks on this list would be willing to sign too, if we can figure out how to do that logistically. I know from stories you've posted on the list that you've run across some influential people while doing rescue work, government officials, media people, get their signatures and short statements about who you are and what you do too. Some sound legal advice is in order as well, here's the link to ALDF, (Animal Legal Defense Fund). Write or call them and tell them what's going on and ask how they can help. They have attorneys that do pro bono work for good folks like you. http://www.aldf.org/ Blessings and prayers for you, your situation and for sweet little Ginger. She's been refusing to eat for what seems like a long time now, maybe you had better get her into the vet, just in case they can figure out why. Nina Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Hi, everyone I am in a situations where I need all your prayers! I mentioned to you a couple of weeks ago, where the animal control came over regarding having the multiple cats at my house. Well, based on the current ordinance, I could only have 5 animals even with a permit (they have a very stupid way to calculate it) so, now I have to go to a hearing. According to the city attorney, unless my neighbors has any objections (which no one does), they usually allow you to have up to 15 animals I have to now go to a hearing and present my case everyone, please pray that everything will go well and they wont take my babies away from me! I dont know what I would do without them! Also, Ginger is still not eating like she is supposed to she sipped on Liver shake a bit, but not much, so I am still force feeding she does not act like she is sick at all, which is blessing I might have to take her for a blood work if she does not get her appetite back to see if anything is going on inside of her.. please pray that she will gain her appetite back very very soon! Again, thank you for all your support!
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Thats a good idea I am not a good writer but I have an idea, and Greg is a lawyer and writes really well.. so maybe he can edit it I have 5 days to request a hearing from this Wednesdays thats when an office will bring me all the paper work I need to request a hearing, but I am not sure how long before the hearing.. I will write to ALDF to see if they have any suggestions. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:54 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Hideyo, The suggestions given sound good, being prepared with pictures of your habitat, receipts for medical and housing costs etc. Could you write up some sort of acknowledgment of your general good deeds in caring for the cats? Get as many signatures on it as possible, vets, neighbors, etc. How much time do you have before the hearing? I know the folks on this list would be willing to sign too, if we can figure out how to do that logistically. I know from stories you've posted on the list that you've run across some influential people while doing rescue work, government officials, media people, get their signatures and short statements about who you are and what you do too. Some sound legal advice is in order as well, here's the link to ALDF, (Animal Legal Defense Fund). Write or call them and tell them what's going on and ask how they can help. They have attorneys that do pro bono work for good folks like you. http://www.aldf.org/ Blessings and prayers for you, your situation and for sweet little Ginger. She's been refusing to eat for what seems like a long time now, maybe you had better get her into the vet, just in case they can figure out why. Nina Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Hi, everyone I am in a situations where I need all your prayers! I mentioned to you a couple of weeks ago, where the animal control came over regarding having the multiple cats at my house. Well, based on the current ordinance, I could only have 5 animals even with a permit (they have a very stupid way to calculate it) so, now I have to go to a hearing. According to the city attorney, unless my neighbors has any objections (which no one does), they usually allow you to have up to 15 animals I have to now go to a hearing and present my case everyone, please pray that everything will go well and they wont take my babies away from me! I dont know what I would do without them! Also, Ginger is still not eating like she is supposed to she sipped on Liver shake a bit, but not much, so I am still force feeding she does not act like she is sick at all, which is blessing I might have to take her for a blood work if she does not get her appetite back to see if anything is going on inside of her.. please pray that she will gain her appetite back very very soon! Again, thank you for all your support!
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I wouldn't think they could take them away from you; rather, that they give you ample time to place them in other homes. But if it was me, and I hope I don't offend anyone by saying this, if they told me I had to get rid of some of my animals, I would say ok, and take them to my moms until they came back to check, and then like a teenager, I would bring them right back home. I've always been a little rebellious like that. --- Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used to care for all my cats for the past 10 years and she is actually overseeing now the vet section at the animal control division, which I hope to build creditability as the letter says how responsible and caring I am for all my animals. Different officers came to inspect my place a few times and they were all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000 a couple of years ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my main house - windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures.. etc.. and happy how well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I will prepare for any possible ways for them to complain. I am also going to ask someone I know through rescuing.. she is with Animal protection service of my state and she has a lot of credibility with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still very nervous because they CAN take them away from me.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Hi Hideyo, I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance troubles. I agree with Kerry that having someone else there as an advocate for the care you are providing is a smart idea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions, neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may be). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This is the very reason I hope to one day have some land out in the country. The city government won't be able to tell me what to do with my life or my furballs. I will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating better again. I am sorry for your troubles and I hope that things start looking up again. In the meantime, don't let them get you down. Keep going strong. :) Wendy __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
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I don't think they will take them away right away.. but if I can't find a home for them.. which I won't --whenever I look a home for them, I end up with more cats --my question is then, what will they do? Will they take away from me and eventually kill them? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:12 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! I wouldn't think they could take them away from you; rather, that they give you ample time to place them in other homes. But if it was me, and I hope I don't offend anyone by saying this, if they told me I had to get rid of some of my animals, I would say ok, and take them to my moms until they came back to check, and then like a teenager, I would bring them right back home. I've always been a little rebellious like that. --- Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used to care for all my cats for the past 10 years and she is actually overseeing now the vet section at the animal control division, which I hope to build creditability as the letter says how responsible and caring I am for all my animals. Different officers came to inspect my place a few times and they were all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000 a couple of years ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my main house - windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures.. etc.. and happy how well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I will prepare for any possible ways for them to complain. I am also going to ask someone I know through rescuing.. she is with Animal protection service of my state and she has a lot of credibility with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still very nervous because they CAN take them away from me.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Hi Hideyo, I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance troubles. I agree with Kerry that having someone else there as an advocate for the care you are providing is a smart idea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions, neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may be). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This is the very reason I hope to one day have some land out in the country. The city government won't be able to tell me what to do with my life or my furballs. I will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating better again. I am sorry for your troubles and I hope that things start looking up again. In the meantime, don't let them get you down. Keep going strong. :) Wendy __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
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I have never heard of anyone I know personally dealing with what you are dealing with, so I don't know for sure, but if I had to guess, I would think they would give you like 30 days to find homes for however many over the number they allow you. Then, at the end of 30 days, they will probably schedule an appointment to come by to do a head count. After that, I bet they don't bother you much and you can bring any kitties back that kind people have taken in for you for a short time so that you can pass the head count. I hope you have family or good friends nearby that will help you if it comes to that. Plus, in the future, you don't have to answer the door to anyone from animal control if you think they are coming to do a head count again. I doubt they will hassle you though. I wouldn't worry about all this just yet though Hideyo, because you will worry yourself sick. And if they end up allowing you to have your cats, then you will have worried for no reason. How in the world did this all happen in the first place? Did someone complain about your cats? __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
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Think that's what I'd do! Gloria On Nov 7, 2005, at 2:11 PM, wendy wrote: I wouldn't think they could take them away from you; rather, that they give you ample time to place them in other homes. But if it was me, and I hope I don't offend anyone by saying this, if they told me I had to get rid of some of my animals, I would say ok, and take them to my moms until they came back to check, and then like a teenager, I would bring them right back home. I've always been a little rebellious like that. --- Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used to care for all my cats for the past 10 years and she is actually overseeing now the vet section at the animal control division, which I hope to build creditability as the letter says how responsible and caring I am for all my animals. Different officers came to inspect my place a few times and they were all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000 a couple of years ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my main house - windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures.. etc.. and happy how well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I will prepare for any possible ways for them to complain. I am also going to ask someone I know through rescuing.. she is with Animal protection service of my state and she has a lot of credibility with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still very nervous because they CAN take them away from me.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Hi Hideyo, I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance troubles. I agree with Kerry that having someone else there as an advocate for the care you are providing is a smart idea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions, neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may be). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This is the very reason I hope to one day have some land out in the country. The city government won't be able to tell me what to do with my life or my furballs. I will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating better again. I am sorry for your troubles and I hope that things start looking up again. In the meantime, don't let them get you down. Keep going strong. :) Wendy __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
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On a bit separate note, do you know where I can get some type of adhesive you can put it on your window - so that you can see from one side, but not the other? I decide that I want my privacy and wanted to explore the option - do you know what I am talking about? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria Lane Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 2:02 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Think that's what I'd do! Gloria On Nov 7, 2005, at 2:11 PM, wendy wrote: I wouldn't think they could take them away from you; rather, that they give you ample time to place them in other homes. But if it was me, and I hope I don't offend anyone by saying this, if they told me I had to get rid of some of my animals, I would say ok, and take them to my moms until they came back to check, and then like a teenager, I would bring them right back home. I've always been a little rebellious like that. --- Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used to care for all my cats for the past 10 years and she is actually overseeing now the vet section at the animal control division, which I hope to build creditability as the letter says how responsible and caring I am for all my animals. Different officers came to inspect my place a few times and they were all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000 a couple of years ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my main house - windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures.. etc.. and happy how well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I will prepare for any possible ways for them to complain. I am also going to ask someone I know through rescuing.. she is with Animal protection service of my state and she has a lot of credibility with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still very nervous because they CAN take them away from me.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Hi Hideyo, I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance troubles. I agree with Kerry that having someone else there as an advocate for the care you are providing is a smart idea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions, neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may be). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This is the very reason I hope to one day have some land out in the country. The city government won't be able to tell me what to do with my life or my furballs. I will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating better again. I am sorry for your troubles and I hope that things start looking up again. In the meantime, don't let them get you down. Keep going strong. :) Wendy __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
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I got some at Home DepotHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On a bit separate note, do you know where I can get some type ofadhesive you can put it on your window - so that you can see from oneside, but not the other? I decide that I want my privacy and wanted toexplore the option - do you know what I am talking about?-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria LaneSent: Monday, November 07, 2005 2:02 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!!Think that's what I'd do!GloriaOn Nov 7, 2005, at 2:11 PM, wendy wrote: I wouldn't think they could take them away from you; rather, that they give you ample time to place them in other homes. But if it was me, and I hope I don't offend anyone by saying this, if they told me I had to get rid of some of my animals, I would say ok, and take them to my moms until they came back to check, and then like a teenager, I would bring them right back home. I've always been a little rebellious like that. --- Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used to care for all my cats for the past 10 years and she is actually overseeing now the vet section at the animal control division, which I hope to build creditability as the letter says how responsible and caring I am for all my animals. Different officers came to inspect my place a few times and they were all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000 a couple of years ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my main house - windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures.. etc.. and happy how well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I will prepare for any possible ways for them to complain. I am also going to ask someone I know through rescuing.. she is with Animal protection service of my state and she has a lot of credibility with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still very nervous because they CAN take them away from me.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Hi Hideyo, I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance troubles. I agree with Kerry that having someone else there as an advocate for the care you are providing is a smart idea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions, neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may be). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This is the very reason I hope to one day have some land out in the country. The city government won't be able to tell me what to do with my life or my furballs. I will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating better again. I am sorry for your troubles and I hope that things start looking up again. In the meantime, don't let them get you down. Keep going strong. :) Wendy __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
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What do you call it, do you know? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Loesch Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 2:11 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! I got some at Home Depot Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On a bit separate note, do you know where I can get some type of adhesive you can put it on your window - so that you can see from one side, but not the other? I decide that I want my privacy and wanted to explore the option - do you know what I am talking about? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria Lane Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 2:02 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Think that's what I'd do! Gloria On Nov 7, 2005, at 2:11 PM, wendy wrote: I wouldn't think they could take them away from you; rather, that they give you ample time to place them in other homes. But if it was me, and I hope I don't offend anyone by saying this, if they told me I had to get rid of some of my animals, I would say ok, and take them to my moms until they came back to check, and then like a teenager, I would bring them right back home. I've always been a little rebellious like that. --- Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used to care for all my cats for the past 10 years and she is actually overseeing now the vet section at the animal control division, which I hope to build creditability as the letter says how responsible and caring I am for all my animals. Different officers came to inspect my place a few times and they were all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000 a couple of years ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my main house - windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures.. etc.. and happy how well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I will prepare for any possible ways for them to complain. I am also going to ask someone I know through rescuing.. she is with Animal protection service of my state and she has a lot of credibility with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still very nervous because they CAN take them away from me.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Hi Hideyo, I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance troubles. I agree with Kerry that having someone else there as an advocate for the care you are providing is a smart idea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions, neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may be). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This is the very reason I hope to one day have some land out in the country. The city government won't be able to tell me what to do with my life or my furballs. I will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating better again. I am sorry for your troubles and I hope that things start looking up again. In the meantime, don't let them get you down. Keep going strong. :) Wendy __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
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There is film that comes in rolls--you should be able to buy at any Lowes or Home Depot... Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 4:06 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! On a bit separate note, do you know where I can get some type of adhesive you can put it on your window - so that you can see from one side, but not the other? I decide that I want my privacy and wanted to explore the option - do you know what I am talking about? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria Lane Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 2:02 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Think that's what I'd do! Gloria On Nov 7, 2005, at 2:11 PM, wendy wrote: I wouldn't think they could take them away from you; rather, that they give you ample time to place them in other homes. But if it was me, and I hope I don't offend anyone by saying this, if they told me I had to get rid of some of my animals, I would say ok, and take them to my moms until they came back to check, and then like a teenager, I would bring them right back home. I've always been a little rebellious like that. --- Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used to care for all my cats for the past 10 years and she is actually overseeing now the vet section at the animal control division, which I hope to build creditability as the letter says how responsible and caring I am for all my animals. Different officers came to inspect my place a few times and they were all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000 a couple of years ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my main house - windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures.. etc.. and happy how well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I will prepare for any possible ways for them to complain. I am also going to ask someone I know through rescuing.. she is with Animal protection service of my state and she has a lot of credibility with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still very nervous because they CAN take them away from me.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Hi Hideyo, I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance troubles. I agree with Kerry that having someone else there as an advocate for the care you are providing is a smart idea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions, neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may be). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This is the very reason I hope to one day have some land out in the country. The city government won't be able to tell me what to do with my life or my furballs. I will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating better again. I am sorry for your troubles and I hope that things start looking up again. In the meantime, don't let them get you down. Keep going strong. :) Wendy __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
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Hideyo,you will be in my prayers every night. I don't know what I would do if someone tried to take my fur balls. I do believe it would kill me. I hate to think of the anguish you must be going through. We all will keep positive thoughts and with Gods help everything will turn out fine. Sheila in SC
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I don't remember - I think I just went in and described what I wanted. Comes in different size rolls and it may have been with the roll-up bamboo -type shades or close by. That is what I got at the same time. It has been over a year -- the city code people cited my carport for having things on it that weren't designed to go outdoors - like a couple of bookcases. I was lucky that they didn't walk the whole carport and look in the den windows - and see WAY over the allowed limit of cats. So I got that plastic stuff and put it over all my den windows - but FAST!Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you call it, do you know? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan LoeschSent: Monday, November 07, 2005 2:11 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! I got some at Home DepotHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On a bit separate note, do you know where I can get some type ofadhesive you can put it on your window - so that you can see from oneside, but not the other? I decide that I want my privacy and wanted toexplore the option - do you know what I am talking about?-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria LaneSent: Monday, November 07, 2005 2:02 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!!Think that's what I'd do!GloriaOn Nov 7, 2005, at 2:11 PM, wendy wrote: I wouldn't think they could take them away from you; rather, that they give you ample time to place them in other homes. But if it was me, and I hope I don't offend anyone by saying this, if they told me I had to get rid of some of my animals, I would say ok, and take them to my moms until they came back to check, and then like a teenager, I would bring them right back home. I've always been a little rebellious like that. --- Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used to care for all my cats for the past 10 years and she is actually overseeing now the vet section at the animal control division, which I hope to build creditability as the letter says how responsible and caring I am for all my animals. Different officers came to inspect my place a few times and they were all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000 a couple of years ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my main house - windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures.. etc.. and happy how well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I will prepare for any possible ways for them to complain. I am also going to ask someone I know through rescuing.. she is with Animal protection service of my state and she has a lot of credibility with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still very nervous because they CAN take them away from me.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Hi Hideyo, I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance troubles. I agree with Kerry that having someone else there as an advocate for the care you are providing is a smart idea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions, neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may be). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This is the very reason I hope to one day have some land out in the country. The city government won't be able to tell me what to do with my life or my furballs. I will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating better again. I am sorry for your troubles and I hope that things start looking up again. In the meantime, don't let them get you down. Keep going strong. :) Wendy __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
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Dear Hideyo, I'm sending stay strong vibes and will keep my candles lit for you until you win this battle. Better to be over prepared (actually no-such-thing) that to just passively answer questions as they come. Definately get your previous vet's support - in writing - and contact ALDF and maybe even Best Friends Sanctuary - they've been known to help out too. Also sending prayers for Ginger... Kat (Mew Jersey) On Mon, 7 Nov 2005, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Hi, everyone - I am in a situations where I need all your prayers! I mentioned to you a couple of weeks ago, where the animal control came over regarding having the multiple cats at my house. Well, based on the current ordinance, I could only have 5 animals even with a permit (they have a very stupid way to calculate it) - so, now I have to go to a hearing. According to the city attorney, unless my neighbors has any objections (which no one does), they usually allow you to have up to 15 animals I have to now go to a hearing and present my case - everyone, please pray that everything will go well and they won't take my babies away from me! I don't know what I would do without them! Also, Ginger is still not eating like she is supposed to - she sipped on Liver shake a bit, but not much, so I am still force feeding... she does not act like she is sick at all, which is blessing - I might have to take her for a blood work if she does not get her appetite back to see if anything is going on inside of her.. please pray that she will gain her appetite back very very soon! Again, thank you for all your support!
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Hi, Kathy, thank you very much! How are the kittens? (maybe now they are too big to be called kittens?) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kat Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 2:29 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! Dear Hideyo, I'm sending stay strong vibes and will keep my candles lit for you until you win this battle. Better to be over prepared (actually no-such-thing) that to just passively answer questions as they come. Definately get your previous vet's support - in writing - and contact ALDF and maybe even Best Friends Sanctuary - they've been known to help out too. Also sending prayers for Ginger... Kat (Mew Jersey) On Mon, 7 Nov 2005, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Hi, everyone - I am in a situations where I need all your prayers! I mentioned to you a couple of weeks ago, where the animal control came over regarding having the multiple cats at my house. Well, based on the current ordinance, I could only have 5 animals even with a permit (they have a very stupid way to calculate it) - so, now I have to go to a hearing. According to the city attorney, unless my neighbors has any objections (which no one does), they usually allow you to have up to 15 animals I have to now go to a hearing and present my case - everyone, please pray that everything will go well and they won't take my babies away from me! I don't know what I would do without them! Also, Ginger is still not eating like she is supposed to - she sipped on Liver shake a bit, but not much, so I am still force feeding... she does not act like she is sick at all, which is blessing - I might have to take her for a blood work if she does not get her appetite back to see if anything is going on inside of her.. please pray that she will gain her appetite back very very soon! Again, thank you for all your support!
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Man, I feel for you Hideyo. Some people just don't have a life and they get into everyone else's business and cause problems because they don't. I hate that. --- Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone anonymously reported me that I have many cats - not any type of complains regarding that.. as my cats are all indoors, they don't bother my neighbors or anything.. it's almost like personal thing against me and nothing to do with my animals and that's how I started. And actually, I was already given a permit from the city last year - so when the city contacted me, I told them that I already have a permit - then, they couldn't find the paper work and the officer who gave me a permit no longer is the officer and they told me that he did not follow the correct process (not following the correct ordinance as to exactly how many cats I have) so I have to re-do this all over again. I do have a place that I can take my cats temporarily - I just have to do a lot of transporting.. but I am prepared to do so anyway. It just does not make sense to me logically.. my cats and I are not bothering anyone... and cats are treated well.. so why do they care??? If you know what I mean.. we don't remove children from a family just because they have too many children.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:38 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! I have never heard of anyone I know personally dealing with what you are dealing with, so I don't know for sure, but if I had to guess, I would think they would give you like 30 days to find homes for however many over the number they allow you. Then, at the end of 30 days, they will probably schedule an appointment to come by to do a head count. After that, I bet they don't bother you much and you can bring any kitties back that kind people have taken in for you for a short time so that you can pass the head count. I hope you have family or good friends nearby that will help you if it comes to that. Plus, in the future, you don't have to answer the door to anyone from animal control if you think they are coming to do a head count again. I doubt they will hassle you though. I wouldn't worry about all this just yet though Hideyo, because you will worry yourself sick. And if they end up allowing you to have your cats, then you will have worried for no reason. How in the world did this all happen in the first place? Did someone complain about your cats? __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
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Hideyo, Athena and Artemis are about 6 months now - but they are still kittens. My vet is on temporary leave (pregnancy) during November, but I hope to have her spay the girls - probably just after Xmas since I have the week between Xmas/NewYears off from work. I really need to get new pics... They're sooo cute. Kat (Mew Jersey) On Mon, 7 Nov 2005, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 14:34:17 -0700 From: Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! Hi, Kathy, thank you very much! How are the kittens? (maybe now they are too big to be called kittens?) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kat Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 2:29 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! Dear Hideyo, I'm sending stay strong vibes and will keep my candles lit for you until you win this battle. Better to be over prepared (actually no-such-thing) that to just passively answer questions as they come. Definately get your previous vet's support - in writing - and contact ALDF and maybe even Best Friends Sanctuary - they've been known to help out too. Also sending prayers for Ginger... Kat (Mew Jersey) On Mon, 7 Nov 2005, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Hi, everyone - I am in a situations where I need all your prayers! I mentioned to you a couple of weeks ago, where the animal control came over regarding having the multiple cats at my house. Well, based on the current ordinance, I could only have 5 animals even with a permit (they have a very stupid way to calculate it) - so, now I have to go to a hearing. According to the city attorney, unless my neighbors has any objections (which no one does), they usually allow you to have up to 15 animals I have to now go to a hearing and present my case - everyone, please pray that everything will go well and they won't take my babies away from me! I don't know what I would do without them! Also, Ginger is still not eating like she is supposed to - she sipped on Liver shake a bit, but not much, so I am still force feeding... she does not act like she is sick at all, which is blessing - I might have to take her for a blood work if she does not get her appetite back to see if anything is going on inside of her.. please pray that she will gain her appetite back very very soon! Again, thank you for all your support!
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Good luck, Hideyo! If you have not already, you should call the Animal Legal Defense Fund in CA (they have a website with contact info) and ask for a referral to a pro bono attorney in HI to help you at your hearing. Michelle
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If you have a place to foster any of your kitties temporarily, you might want to do that ASAP. When do you go to court? Depends on how crappy the law feels that day ... I do know of a man in the northeast a year or two ago, the law came in without warning and took everyone of his personal and rescue kitties. By the time he had a lawyer to try to get his kitties back, most had been euthed. Yes, horror story, which is why it has stayed with me a long time. I was not there nor know him personally. From what he said and having read his posts (different list) he seemed like a genuine animal caring person. I realize this will intensify your worry andsleeplessness, I am so sorry, but you do have to do whatever you can to save your babies. The real wrath of it is people like us who have over the city limit of animals but are devoted caretakers get in trouble but people who have even only one pet, neglected and abused, do not get caught and the animal suffers. It really makes me angry. Prayers and hugs for you and your babies to be safe. Wish I could do something more for you. Del - Original Message - From: Hideyo Yamamoto To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 2:20 PM Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! I don't think they will take them away right away.. but if I can't finda home for them.. which I won't --whenever I look a home for them, I endup with more cats --my question is then, what will they do? Will theytake away from me and eventually kill them?-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendySent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:12 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!!I wouldn't think they could take them away from you;rather, that they give you ample time to place them inother homes. But if it was me, and I hope I don'toffend anyone by saying this, if they told me I had toget rid of some of my animals, I would say ok, andtake them to my moms until they came back to check,and then like a teenager, I would bring them rightback home. I've always been a little rebellious likethat.--- Hideyo Yamamoto[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used to care for all my cats for the past 10 years and she is actually overseeing now the vet section at the animal control division, which I hope to build creditability as the letter says how responsible and caring I am for all my animals. Different officers came to inspect my place a few times and they were all very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000 a couple of years ago and built facility for my cats in addition to my main house - windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures.. etc.. and happy how well all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I will prepare for any possible ways for them to complain. I am also going to ask someone I know through rescuing.. she is with Animal protection service of my state and she has a lot of credibility with animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still very nervous because they CAN take them away from me.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Hi Hideyo, I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance troubles. I agree with Kerry that having someone else there as an advocate for the care you are providing is a smart idea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof the very reasons they are having you in for a hearing in the first place (ie. unsanitary conditions, neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons may be). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This is the very reason I hope to one day have some land out in the country. The city government won't be able to tell me what to do with my life or my furballs. I will also say prayers for Ginger to begin eating better again. I am sorry for your troubles and I hope that things start looking up again. In the meantime, don't let them get you down. Keep going strong. :) Wendy __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click.http://farechase.yahoo.com
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Hi Hideyo, I have been reading that you were having a problem with the animal control...I do understand.. Today in our local paper...it stated we were to only have no more than 3 dogs and 3 cats on our property in the city limits...So believe me I know what you feel...I wish they would understand that we give quality care to our animals and they are part of our family or in my case they are my family... I am behind you 100% as I know the entire group is... You are in my prayers... Kerry and Bandy Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.
