Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vet visit today
Wonderful, Kelley, glad to hear the good news, and great price. Wish she was closer to me. Gloria in Arkansas On Mar 19, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Kelley wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Coco and I had our first visit to the holistic vet today. I was very excited. > > It was very different from a traditional vet visit. No exam tables - just > cushions on the floor. She gave coco a very thorough exam with plenty of > time for questions. She recommends against any further vaccinations (coco > has had fvrcp and rabies vaccines) and will write me a waiver for future > rabies exams. > > She recommends a raw diet and supplementation with feline immune system > support tablets by standard process. Total bill today was $55.92 including > the exam and supplement. I got discounts of $15 for the exam and $2.30 for > the supplement. So far we have been donated $45 so that comes close to > covering all of it > > If you live on the gulf coast I highly recommend her. > Www.creatingwellbeings.com > > I will be posting pics on their website later > > Sent from my iPhone > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vet
Gary, All my husband did was go to their website at http://www.imulan.com/. You can look under Feline Leukemia and download their brochures. I hope this link help you. If not, please let me know, Thanks> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:45:33 -0600> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vet> > Hi Christy,> > Thanks, I would appreciate the info.> > WOW, $140 a shot is OUTRAGEOUS. When I started looking into it the shots > were $50 to $65 (I think that was about double what the original company was > charging)and I just saw a recent post where someone was paying $85. Either > Imulan has gotten very greedy or your vet is making a handsome profit for > giving a shot.> > Gary> > - Original Message - > From: "Christy Buchin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 8:52 PM> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vet> > > >> > Gary,> > I will ask my husband where he found all the research information. He > > spent hours upon hours researching this as well as much as he could find > > on the Feline Leukemia in general. Our Family vet called and spoke to one > > of the doctors there and was told that they had some very good results. I > > do agree that the shots are costly, at $140 weekly. We even had gone > > through UC Davis here in California, where we live and they knew nothing > > about the Imulan. Of course, we found they did not know quite a bit. We > > figured that why not try. As soon as I find out the specific research > > information, I will forward it > > > ___> Felvtalk mailing list> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live Hotmail now works up to 70% faster. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_faster_112008 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vet
Hi Christy, Thanks, I would appreciate the info. WOW, $140 a shot is OUTRAGEOUS. When I started looking into it the shots were $50 to $65 (I think that was about double what the original company was charging)and I just saw a recent post where someone was paying $85. Either Imulan has gotten very greedy or your vet is making a handsome profit for giving a shot. Gary - Original Message - From: "Christy Buchin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vet > > Gary, > I will ask my husband where he found all the research information. He > spent hours upon hours researching this as well as much as he could find > on the Feline Leukemia in general. Our Family vet called and spoke to one > of the doctors there and was told that they had some very good results. I > do agree that the shots are costly, at $140 weekly. We even had gone > through UC Davis here in California, where we live and they knew nothing > about the Imulan. Of course, we found they did not know quite a bit. We > figured that why not try. As soon as I find out the specific research > information, I will forward it ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vet
Gary, I will ask my husband where he found all the research information. He spent hours upon hours researching this as well as much as he could find on the Feline Leukemia in general. Our Family vet called and spoke to one of the doctors there and was told that they had some very good results. I do agree that the shots are costly, at $140 weekly. We even had gone through UC Davis here in California, where we live and they knew nothing about the Imulan. Of course, we found they did not know quite a bit. We figured that why not try. As soon as I find out the specific research information, I will forward it.> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:40:46 -0600> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vet> > Hi Christy,> > Hope it all helps Gray Kitty get better. If you know of any specific > studies done on LTCI and where one could look at the documentation of those > studies, I would greatly appreciate it. I have heard of cases where it > seemed to help and others where it did not. When I called them they would > not discuss any testing results with a non-vet. My vet called and he said > they had very little in the way of test results.> > I am upset that Imulan took over this drug (bought it from the company that > developed it) and raised the price to a level that most people cannot > afford. I know they were seeking cats for a 30 day trial of LTCI, I'm not > sure a 30 day trial will yield a valid result about the drug.> > Gary> > - Original Message - > From: "Christy Buchin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 12:45 PM> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vet> > > >> > We just started our cat, Gray Kitty, on an holistic medication called > > Ashwagandha drops, as well as, Bioplasma tablets. These are supposed to > > help rebuild their Red Blood Cells. They were recommeded by our family > > Vet. Also, we have him on a weekly regiman of LTIC, Immulan injections. > > Our Vet had never heard of the LTCI until my husband did a lot of > > research. He called the company and they have had good results with > > Feline Leukemia patients. They have documented studies. These seem to be > > bringing his Hematocrit numbers back up! > To: > > felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 08:20:33 -0500> From: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Felvtalk] Holistic vet> > I am > > taking my kitten, Tommy, to a holistic vet this morning. After> speaking > > with her yesterday, I am very encouraged! Like some of you> have told me, > > she said that a separation would be too stressful on> ALL of the cats, > > which is the worst thing for their little immune> systems.> > > ___> Felvtalk mailing list> > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org> > _> > Access your email online and on the go with Windows Live Hotmail.> > http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_access_112008> > ___> > Felvtalk mailing list> > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org> >> >> > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > > signature database 3622 (20081118) __> >> > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.> >> > http://www.eset.com> >> > > > > ___> Felvtalk mailing list> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Proud to be a PC? Show the world. Download the “I’m a PC” Messenger themepack now. hthttp://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119642558/direct/01/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vet
The cost of each shot is $140.00. We have him on weekly injections as he seems to do better. My husband was insistent about starting him on these since he had researched it so intensely. We also have him on the homeopathic meds as well. He is a true fighter. We know that since the leukemia has gone into his bone marrow, we have a limited time with him, however, we are taking each day that we have. > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:44:28 -0500> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vet> > > > Oh, so you have him on the Immulan! My holistic vet gave me info on> that, but has never used it before, so I am still "thinking" about> it. Would you mind sharing cost info with me? > > Tommy was started on two new medicines - DMG to boost his immune> system, and a homeopathic mixture of Engystol and Galium as an> anti-viral. I am very encouraged!> On Tue 18/11/08 1:45 PM , Christy Buchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:> We just started our cat, Gray Kitty, on an holistic medication> called Ashwagandha drops, as well as, Bioplasma tablets. These are> supposed to help rebuild their Red Blood Cells. They were recommeded> by our family Vet. Also, we have him on a weekly regiman of LTIC,> Immulan injections. Our Vet had never heard of the LTCI until my> husband did a lot of research. He called the company and they have> had good results with Feline Leukemia patients. They have documented> studies. These seem to be bringing his Hematocrit numbers back up! > ___> Felvtalk mailing list> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live Hotmail now works up to 70% faster. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_faster_112008 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vet
not all snake oil is good snake oil. see where the data comes from, and whether or not the "studies," and "trials" meet scientific criteria before taking the word of any manufacturer of ANYTHING. think pet food. -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vet
Gary, You are right about the studies not being long enough. The company is still testing the drug. It may be possible though your vet to get it as part of a trial. I have no idea what is involved. I have heard from someone on another group that her vet used to be in the trial for immulan and he feels the drug is useful. He continues to use it for FELV cats. He however opted not to continue with the studies because of the issue you bring up. Sue I am not sure about a cat who critically ill whether this would pull them out. Is it the anemia that is the problem, if so would a transfusion buy you some time so you can get this treatment? When my Felv kitties crashed they crashed hard. The choice was easy then, not to have them suffer. I was lucky to have been able to buy Junior 1.5 years of time with us. He did not suffer. Sally ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vet
Hi Christy, Hope it all helps Gray Kitty get better. If you know of any specific studies done on LTCI and where one could look at the documentation of those studies, I would greatly appreciate it. I have heard of cases where it seemed to help and others where it did not. When I called them they would not discuss any testing results with a non-vet. My vet called and he said they had very little in the way of test results. I am upset that Imulan took over this drug (bought it from the company that developed it) and raised the price to a level that most people cannot afford. I know they were seeking cats for a 30 day trial of LTCI, I'm not sure a 30 day trial will yield a valid result about the drug. Gary - Original Message - From: "Christy Buchin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vet > > We just started our cat, Gray Kitty, on an holistic medication called > Ashwagandha drops, as well as, Bioplasma tablets. These are supposed to > help rebuild their Red Blood Cells. They were recommeded by our family > Vet. Also, we have him on a weekly regiman of LTIC, Immulan injections. > Our Vet had never heard of the LTCI until my husband did a lot of > research. He called the company and they have had good results with > Feline Leukemia patients. They have documented studies. These seem to be > bringing his Hematocrit numbers back up! > To: > felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 08:20:33 -0500> From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Felvtalk] Holistic vet> > I am > taking my kitten, Tommy, to a holistic vet this morning. After> speaking > with her yesterday, I am very encouraged! Like some of you> have told me, > she said that a separation would be too stressful on> ALL of the cats, > which is the worst thing for their little immune> systems.> > ___> Felvtalk mailing list> > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > _ > Access your email online and on the go with Windows Live Hotmail. > http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_access_112008 > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 3622 (20081118) __ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vet
Christy, Do you know if these items will work if the anemia is already in the bone marrow? My Buzz is taking Prednesolone, Leukeran and has been on Doxycycline and they are no longer working - my vet says it is because the problem is in his bone marrow. He does not have more then a few days to live if that. If these thiings would help him and if I could get them REALLY fast maybe he would have a chance? Thank you, Sue Christy Buchin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We just started our cat, Gray Kitty, on an holistic medication called > Ashwagandha drops, as well as, Bioplasma tablets. These are supposed to help > rebuild their Red Blood Cells. They were recommeded by our family Vet. > Also, we have him on a weekly regiman of LTIC, Immulan injections. Our Vet > had never heard of the LTCI until my husband did a lot of research. He > called the company and they have had good results with Feline Leukemia > patients. They have documented studies. These seem to be bringing his > Hematocrit numbers back up! > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Date: Tue, 18 > Nov 2008 08:20:33 -0500> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Felvtalk] > Holistic vet> > I am taking my kitten, Tommy, to a holistic vet this morning. > After> speaking with her yesterday, I am very encouraged! Like some of you> > have told me, she said that a separation would be too stressful on> ALL of > the cats, which is the worst thing for their little immune> systems.> > ___> Felvtalk mailing list> > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > _ > Access your email online and on the go with Windows Live Hotmail. > http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_access_112008 > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vet
Oh, so you have him on the Immulan! My holistic vet gave me info on that, but has never used it before, so I am still "thinking" about it. Would you mind sharing cost info with me? Tommy was started on two new medicines - DMG to boost his immune system, and a homeopathic mixture of Engystol and Galium as an anti-viral. I am very encouraged! On Tue 18/11/08 1:45 PM , Christy Buchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: We just started our cat, Gray Kitty, on an holistic medication called Ashwagandha drops, as well as, Bioplasma tablets. These are supposed to help rebuild their Red Blood Cells. They were recommeded by our family Vet. Also, we have him on a weekly regiman of LTIC, Immulan injections. Our Vet had never heard of the LTCI until my husband did a lot of research. He called the company and they have had good results with Feline Leukemia patients. They have documented studies. These seem to be bringing his Hematocrit numbers back up! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vet
We just started our cat, Gray Kitty, on an holistic medication called Ashwagandha drops, as well as, Bioplasma tablets. These are supposed to help rebuild their Red Blood Cells. They were recommeded by our family Vet. Also, we have him on a weekly regiman of LTIC, Immulan injections. Our Vet had never heard of the LTCI until my husband did a lot of research. He called the company and they have had good results with Feline Leukemia patients. They have documented studies. These seem to be bringing his Hematocrit numbers back up! > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 08:20:33 -0500> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Felvtalk] Holistic vet> > I am taking my kitten, Tommy, to a holistic vet this morning. After> speaking with her yesterday, I am very encouraged! Like some of you> have told me, she said that a separation would be too stressful on> ALL of the cats, which is the worst thing for their little immune> systems.> ___> Felvtalk mailing list> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Access your email online and on the go with Windows Live Hotmail. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_access_112008 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
