Re: [Felvtalk] PETA

2011-02-28 Thread Beth
I don't like PETA either, but the point is made - Check out sanctuaries before 
sending ANY animal there. Something too few people do.

Beth
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--- On Sat, 2/26/11, Kelley Saveika  wrote:

From: Kelley Saveika 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PETA
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Saturday, February 26, 2011, 4:51 PM

I don't think they like flies more than cats, I think they consider all life
equal - "a rat is a pig is a dog is a boy" so a rat's life, a pig's life,
and a boy's life are all equal in their minds.

Anyway, the point I was trying to make is that PETA made this video.  PETA
is (from how I follow, or attempt to follow, their thinking) against
sanctuaries.  I no longer trust video tape.  I have worked some as an extra
in the television industry and you can put ABSOLUTELY anything in front of a
green screen and make it look real.  I had a friend who had a friend who
worked on animal cops and the friend swears it is all staged - or maybe
"mostly" staged  - that there may be some issues but nothing like what is
shown.  I don't trust anything  I haven't seen with my OWN eyes and I
certainly am NOT going to trust a PETA video about ANYTHING.

On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Lorrie  wrote:

> Kelley,  Thanks for reminding us about PETA. I used to give them
> donations, but when I found out what they did to cats I never gave
> them another cent, and I've tried to spread the word about all the
> cats they kill.  I suppose they do some good in other areas, but cats
> certainly get the worst treatment imaginable, and I also agree they
> are nutty as fruit cakes when it comes to flies.. I read about
> the humane fly trap they sent Pres. Obama... How can they
> consider the lives of flies more valuable than the lives of cats!!
>
> Lorrie
>
> > On 02-25, Kelley Saveika wrote:  As far as the original article
> > goes, it was an article by PETA, which I > trust about as far as I
> > can kick a plastic grocery bag (not far, have you > ever tried it)?
> > PETA operates a "shelter" with a 97% kill rate and had employees caught
> > disposing of animal carcasses in dumpsters after having gone to
> > other shelters and gotten the animals out and promised to find them
> homes.
> > They  were not charged with cruelty but were fined for illegal dumping or
> > something of that nature.
> >
> > Ingrid Newkirk has advocated killing animals as a means to not having to
> > worry about them.
> >
> > PETA believes we should not have house pets and should just enjoy
> > looking at animals from a distance.
> >
> > They gave President Obama a humane fly trap since they saw him kill
> > a fly on TV.
> >
> > I think they are nutty as fruit cakes.
> >
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] PETA

2011-02-26 Thread dlgegg
I will speak against PETA till the day I die and in the meantime I will pray 
for their change of heart.
 Kelley Saveika  wrote: 
> I don't think they like flies more than cats, I think they consider all life
> equal - "a rat is a pig is a dog is a boy" so a rat's life, a pig's life,
> and a boy's life are all equal in their minds.
> 
> Anyway, the point I was trying to make is that PETA made this video.  PETA
> is (from how I follow, or attempt to follow, their thinking) against
> sanctuaries.  I no longer trust video tape.  I have worked some as an extra
> in the television industry and you can put ABSOLUTELY anything in front of a
> green screen and make it look real.  I had a friend who had a friend who
> worked on animal cops and the friend swears it is all staged - or maybe
> "mostly" staged  - that there may be some issues but nothing like what is
> shown.  I don't trust anything  I haven't seen with my OWN eyes and I
> certainly am NOT going to trust a PETA video about ANYTHING.
> 
> On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Lorrie  wrote:
> 
> > Kelley,  Thanks for reminding us about PETA. I used to give them
> > donations, but when I found out what they did to cats I never gave
> > them another cent, and I've tried to spread the word about all the
> > cats they kill.  I suppose they do some good in other areas, but cats
> > certainly get the worst treatment imaginable, and I also agree they
> > are nutty as fruit cakes when it comes to flies.. I read about
> > the humane fly trap they sent Pres. Obama... How can they
> > consider the lives of flies more valuable than the lives of cats!!
> >
> > Lorrie
> >
> > > On 02-25, Kelley Saveika wrote:  As far as the original article
> > > goes, it was an article by PETA, which I > trust about as far as I
> > > can kick a plastic grocery bag (not far, have you > ever tried it)?
> > > PETA operates a "shelter" with a 97% kill rate and had employees caught
> > > disposing of animal carcasses in dumpsters after having gone to
> > > other shelters and gotten the animals out and promised to find them
> > homes.
> > > They  were not charged with cruelty but were fined for illegal dumping or
> > > something of that nature.
> > >
> > > Ingrid Newkirk has advocated killing animals as a means to not having to
> > > worry about them.
> > >
> > > PETA believes we should not have house pets and should just enjoy
> > > looking at animals from a distance.
> > >
> > > They gave President Obama a humane fly trap since they saw him kill
> > > a fly on TV.
> > >
> > > I think they are nutty as fruit cakes.
> > >
> >
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> 
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> 
> "And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they
> can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they
> should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue."
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] PETA

2011-02-26 Thread Kelley Saveika
I don't think they like flies more than cats, I think they consider all life
equal - "a rat is a pig is a dog is a boy" so a rat's life, a pig's life,
and a boy's life are all equal in their minds.

Anyway, the point I was trying to make is that PETA made this video.  PETA
is (from how I follow, or attempt to follow, their thinking) against
sanctuaries.  I no longer trust video tape.  I have worked some as an extra
in the television industry and you can put ABSOLUTELY anything in front of a
green screen and make it look real.  I had a friend who had a friend who
worked on animal cops and the friend swears it is all staged - or maybe
"mostly" staged  - that there may be some issues but nothing like what is
shown.  I don't trust anything  I haven't seen with my OWN eyes and I
certainly am NOT going to trust a PETA video about ANYTHING.

On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Lorrie  wrote:

> Kelley,  Thanks for reminding us about PETA. I used to give them
> donations, but when I found out what they did to cats I never gave
> them another cent, and I've tried to spread the word about all the
> cats they kill.  I suppose they do some good in other areas, but cats
> certainly get the worst treatment imaginable, and I also agree they
> are nutty as fruit cakes when it comes to flies.. I read about
> the humane fly trap they sent Pres. Obama... How can they
> consider the lives of flies more valuable than the lives of cats!!
>
> Lorrie
>
> > On 02-25, Kelley Saveika wrote:  As far as the original article
> > goes, it was an article by PETA, which I > trust about as far as I
> > can kick a plastic grocery bag (not far, have you > ever tried it)?
> > PETA operates a "shelter" with a 97% kill rate and had employees caught
> > disposing of animal carcasses in dumpsters after having gone to
> > other shelters and gotten the animals out and promised to find them
> homes.
> > They  were not charged with cruelty but were fined for illegal dumping or
> > something of that nature.
> >
> > Ingrid Newkirk has advocated killing animals as a means to not having to
> > worry about them.
> >
> > PETA believes we should not have house pets and should just enjoy
> > looking at animals from a distance.
> >
> > They gave President Obama a humane fly trap since they saw him kill
> > a fly on TV.
> >
> > I think they are nutty as fruit cakes.
> >
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] PETA

2011-02-26 Thread Gloria Lane
I agree. I do think they serve a useful purpose on other areas. Guess they like 
flies.  But with cats, they're crazy folks.

Gloria


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On Feb 26, 2011, at 7:33 AM, Lorrie  wrote:

> Kelley,  Thanks for reminding us about PETA. I used to give them
> donations, but when I found out what they did to cats I never gave
> them another cent, and I've tried to spread the word about all the
> cats they kill.  I suppose they do some good in other areas, but cats
> certainly get the worst treatment imaginable, and I also agree they
> are nutty as fruit cakes when it comes to flies.. I read about
> the humane fly trap they sent Pres. Obama... How can they
> consider the lives of flies more valuable than the lives of cats!!
> 
> Lorrie
> 
>> On 02-25, Kelley Saveika wrote:  As far as the original article
>> goes, it was an article by PETA, which I > trust about as far as I
>> can kick a plastic grocery bag (not far, have you > ever tried it)?
>> PETA operates a "shelter" with a 97% kill rate and had employees caught 
>> disposing of animal carcasses in dumpsters after having gone to
>> other shelters and gotten the animals out and promised to find them homes.
>> They  were not charged with cruelty but were fined for illegal dumping or
>> something of that nature.
>> 
>> Ingrid Newkirk has advocated killing animals as a means to not having to
>> worry about them.
>> 
>> PETA believes we should not have house pets and should just enjoy
>> looking at animals from a distance.
>> 
>> They gave President Obama a humane fly trap since they saw him kill
>> a fly on TV.
>> 
>> I think they are nutty as fruit cakes.
>> 
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] PETA

2011-02-26 Thread Lorrie
Kelley,  Thanks for reminding us about PETA. I used to give them
donations, but when I found out what they did to cats I never gave
them another cent, and I've tried to spread the word about all the
cats they kill.  I suppose they do some good in other areas, but cats
certainly get the worst treatment imaginable, and I also agree they
are nutty as fruit cakes when it comes to flies.. I read about
the humane fly trap they sent Pres. Obama... How can they
consider the lives of flies more valuable than the lives of cats!!

Lorrie

> On 02-25, Kelley Saveika wrote:  As far as the original article
> goes, it was an article by PETA, which I > trust about as far as I
> can kick a plastic grocery bag (not far, have you > ever tried it)?
> PETA operates a "shelter" with a 97% kill rate and had employees caught 
> disposing of animal carcasses in dumpsters after having gone to
> other shelters and gotten the animals out and promised to find them homes.
> They  were not charged with cruelty but were fined for illegal dumping or
> something of that nature.
> 
> Ingrid Newkirk has advocated killing animals as a means to not having to
> worry about them.
> 
> PETA believes we should not have house pets and should just enjoy
> looking at animals from a distance.
> 
> They gave President Obama a humane fly trap since they saw him kill
> a fly on TV.
> 
> I think they are nutty as fruit cakes.
> 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Peta Kills Animals

2010-01-07 Thread janine paton
No Kill Advocacy Center 

Read above link, by Nathan Winograd.  His website has plenty of information 
about Peta, etc.  The reason this is so close to my heart, is this - there is a 
woman in my hometown who  has been trapping and killing feral cats for 35 
years.  

We live in a pretty good sized city, we are the only active TNR group here, and 
she gets away with it.  She is aligned with Peta.  

It's not just about Leukemia cats, it's about all cats.  Your leukemia cats are 
worth saving, so are the homeless cats.  I think they are one and the same.  

Janine
 







From: Tower Laboratories Corporation 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, January 7, 2010 3:38:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Peta Kills Animals

Well said, Diane.  

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> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-
> boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Diane Rosenfeldt
> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 2:50 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Peta Kills Animals
> 
> Me neither. I believe their goal is that animals should
not be
> subjected to
> the "tyranny" of human ownership, even though Fluffy and
Fido
> are no more
> capable of surviving "running free" than a goldfish (and
when
> they do,
> usually have about the same lifespan as one). PETA needs
to go
> back about a
> few million years in the evolutionary process and talk to
the
> cavemen and
> wolves who buddied up in the first place.
> 
> I'm not saying that all their causes are bogus -- circuses
are
> cruel, the
> way we get our meat is unnecessarily brutal, and people
should
> be concerned
> about those animals too. But yes, they are deeply
hypocritical in
> their
> treatment of animals that have not "run free" since Man
first
> picked up a
> stick and threw it. They have lost sight of what animal
welfare
> and animal
> rights really mean.
> 
> Diane R.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Debbie Bates
> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:31 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Peta Kills Animals
> 
> 
> Unfortunately, this does not come as any surprise to
me
> 
> Debbie
> "Sometimes you have to look reality in the eye and deny
it"
> (Garrison
> Keillor)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > From: ssjew...@bellsouth.net
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 14:24:09 -0500
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Peta Kills Animals
> >
> >

> > --
> >
> > PETA Killed 95 Percent of Adoptable Pets in its Care
During
> > 2008
> >
> >

> > --
> >
> >
> >
> > This is a rather disturbing story forwarded to me by a
vet.
> >
> >
> >
> > Hypocritical Animal Rights Group's 2008 Disclosures
Bring
> > Pet Death Toll To 21,339
> >
> >
> >
> > WASHINGTON DC - Today the nonprofit Center for Consumer
> > Freedom (CCF) published documents online showing that
> People
> > for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) killed 95
> > percent of the adoptable pets in its care during 2008.
> > Despite years of public outrage over its euthanasia
program,
> > the animal rights group kills an average of 5.8 pets
every
> > day at its Norfolk, VA headquarters.
> >
> >
> >
> > According to public records from the Virginia Department
of
> > A

Re: [Felvtalk] Peta Kills Animals

2010-01-07 Thread Tower Laboratories Corporation
Well said, Diane.  

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Tower Laboratories Corporation
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> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-
> boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Diane Rosenfeldt
> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 2:50 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Peta Kills Animals
> 
> Me neither. I believe their goal is that animals should
not be
> subjected to
> the "tyranny" of human ownership, even though Fluffy and
Fido
> are no more
> capable of surviving "running free" than a goldfish (and
when
> they do,
> usually have about the same lifespan as one). PETA needs
to go
> back about a
> few million years in the evolutionary process and talk to
the
> cavemen and
> wolves who buddied up in the first place.
> 
> I'm not saying that all their causes are bogus -- circuses
are
> cruel, the
> way we get our meat is unnecessarily brutal, and people
should
> be concerned
> about those animals too. But yes, they are deeply
hypocritical in
> their
> treatment of animals that have not "run free" since Man
first
> picked up a
> stick and threw it. They have lost sight of what animal
welfare
> and animal
> rights really mean.
> 
> Diane R.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Debbie Bates
> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:31 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Peta Kills Animals
> 
> 
> Unfortunately, this does not come as any surprise to
me
> 
> Debbie
> "Sometimes you have to look reality in the eye and deny
it"
> (Garrison
> Keillor)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > From: ssjew...@bellsouth.net
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 14:24:09 -0500
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Peta Kills Animals
> >
> >

> > --
> >
> > PETA Killed 95 Percent of Adoptable Pets in its Care
During
> > 2008
> >
> >

> > --
> >
> >
> >
> > This is a rather disturbing story forwarded to me by a
vet.
> >
> >
> >
> > Hypocritical Animal Rights Group's 2008 Disclosures
Bring
> > Pet Death Toll To 21,339
> >
> >
> >
> > WASHINGTON DC - Today the nonprofit Center for Consumer
> > Freedom (CCF) published documents online showing that
> People
> > for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) killed 95
> > percent of the adoptable pets in its care during 2008.
> > Despite years of public outrage over its euthanasia
program,
> > the animal rights group kills an average of 5.8 pets
every
> > day at its Norfolk, VA headquarters.
> >
> >
> >
> > According to public records from the Virginia Department
of
> > Agriculture and Consumer Services, PETA killed 2,124
pets
> > last year and placed only seven in adoptive homes. Since
> > 1998, a total of 21,339 dogs and cats have died at the
hands
> > of PETA workers.
> >
> >
> >
> > Despite having a $32 million budget, PETA does not
operate
> > an adoption shelter. PETA employees make no discernible
> > effort to find homes for the thousands of pets they kill
> > every year. Last year, the Center for Consumer Freedom
> > petitioned Virginia's State Veterinarian to reclassify
PETA
> > as a slaughterhouse.
> >
> >
> >
> > CCF Research Director David Martosko said: "PETA hasn't
> > slowed down its hypocritical k

Re: [Felvtalk] Peta Kills Animals

2010-01-07 Thread Tower Laboratories Corporation
Well said, Diane.  

Sally Snyder Jewell, Marketing Director
Tower Laboratories Corporation
Manufacturers of Pauling Therapy Formulas for Coronary Heart
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> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-
> boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Diane Rosenfeldt
> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 2:50 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Peta Kills Animals
> 
> Me neither. I believe their goal is that animals should
not be
> subjected to
> the "tyranny" of human ownership, even though Fluffy and
Fido
> are no more
> capable of surviving "running free" than a goldfish (and
when
> they do,
> usually have about the same lifespan as one). PETA needs
to go
> back about a
> few million years in the evolutionary process and talk to
the
> cavemen and
> wolves who buddied up in the first place.
> 
> I'm not saying that all their causes are bogus -- circuses
are
> cruel, the
> way we get our meat is unnecessarily brutal, and people
should
> be concerned
> about those animals too. But yes, they are deeply
hypocritical in
> their
> treatment of animals that have not "run free" since Man
first
> picked up a
> stick and threw it. They have lost sight of what animal
welfare
> and animal
> rights really mean.
> 
> Diane R.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Debbie Bates
> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:31 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Peta Kills Animals
> 
> 
> Unfortunately, this does not come as any surprise to
me
> 
> Debbie
> "Sometimes you have to look reality in the eye and deny
it"
> (Garrison
> Keillor)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > From: ssjew...@bellsouth.net
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 14:24:09 -0500
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Peta Kills Animals
> >
> >

> > --
> >
> > PETA Killed 95 Percent of Adoptable Pets in its Care
During
> > 2008
> >
> >

> > --
> >
> >
> >
> > This is a rather disturbing story forwarded to me by a
vet.
> >
> >
> >
> > Hypocritical Animal Rights Group's 2008 Disclosures
Bring
> > Pet Death Toll To 21,339
> >
> >
> >
> > WASHINGTON DC - Today the nonprofit Center for Consumer
> > Freedom (CCF) published documents online showing that
> People
> > for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) killed 95
> > percent of the adoptable pets in its care during 2008.
> > Despite years of public outrage over its euthanasia
program,
> > the animal rights group kills an average of 5.8 pets
every
> > day at its Norfolk, VA headquarters.
> >
> >
> >
> > According to public records from the Virginia Department
of
> > Agriculture and Consumer Services, PETA killed 2,124
pets
> > last year and placed only seven in adoptive homes. Since
> > 1998, a total of 21,339 dogs and cats have died at the
hands
> > of PETA workers.
> >
> >
> >
> > Despite having a $32 million budget, PETA does not
operate
> > an adoption shelter. PETA employees make no discernible
> > effort to find homes for the thousands of pets they kill
> > every year. Last year, the Center for Consumer Freedom
> > petitioned Virginia's State Veterinarian to reclassify
PETA
> > as a slaughterhouse.
> >
> >
> >
> > CCF Research Director David Martosko said: "PETA hasn't
> > slowed down its hypocritical k

Re: [Felvtalk] Peta Kills Animals

2010-01-07 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
Me neither. I believe their goal is that animals should not be subjected to
the "tyranny" of human ownership, even though Fluffy and Fido are no more
capable of surviving "running free" than a goldfish (and when they do,
usually have about the same lifespan as one). PETA needs to go back about a
few million years in the evolutionary process and talk to the cavemen and
wolves who buddied up in the first place. 

I'm not saying that all their causes are bogus -- circuses are cruel, the
way we get our meat is unnecessarily brutal, and people should be concerned
about those animals too. But yes, they are deeply hypocritical in their
treatment of animals that have not "run free" since Man first picked up a
stick and threw it. They have lost sight of what animal welfare and animal
rights really mean.

Diane R. 

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Debbie Bates
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:31 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Peta Kills Animals


Unfortunately, this does not come as any surprise to me

Debbie
"Sometimes you have to look reality in the eye and deny it" (Garrison
Keillor)



 
> From: ssjew...@bellsouth.net
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 14:24:09 -0500
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Peta Kills Animals
> 
> 
> --
> 
> PETA Killed 95 Percent of Adoptable Pets in its Care During
> 2008
> 
> 
> --
> 
> 
> 
> This is a rather disturbing story forwarded to me by a vet.
> 
> 
> 
> Hypocritical Animal Rights Group's 2008 Disclosures Bring
> Pet Death Toll To 21,339
> 
> 
> 
> WASHINGTON DC - Today the nonprofit Center for Consumer
> Freedom (CCF) published documents online showing that People
> for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) killed 95
> percent of the adoptable pets in its care during 2008.
> Despite years of public outrage over its euthanasia program,
> the animal rights group kills an average of 5.8 pets every
> day at its Norfolk, VA headquarters.
> 
> 
> 
> According to public records from the Virginia Department of
> Agriculture and Consumer Services, PETA killed 2,124 pets
> last year and placed only seven in adoptive homes. Since
> 1998, a total of 21,339 dogs and cats have died at the hands
> of PETA workers.
> 
> 
> 
> Despite having a $32 million budget, PETA does not operate
> an adoption shelter. PETA employees make no discernible
> effort to find homes for the thousands of pets they kill
> every year. Last year, the Center for Consumer Freedom
> petitioned Virginia's State Veterinarian to reclassify PETA
> as a slaughterhouse.
> 
> 
> 
> CCF Research Director David Martosko said: "PETA hasn't
> slowed down its hypocritical killing machine one bit, but it
> keeps browbeating the rest of society with a phony 'animal
> rights' 
> 
> message. What about the rights of the thousands of dogs,
> cats, puppies, and kittens that die in PETA's headquarters
> building?"
> 
> 
> 
> Martosko added: "Since killing pets is A-OK with PETA, why
> should anyone listen to their demands about eating meat,
> using lab rats for medical research, or taking children to
> the circus?"
> 
> 
> 
> CCF obtained PETA's "Animal Record" filings since 1998 from
> the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer
> Services. Members of the public can see these documents at
> PetaKillsAnimals.com.
> 
> 
> 
> P.S. Completely disturbing, especially as this appears to be
> a factual story.
> 
> 
> 
> PETA does a TON of marketing and spends untold sums on
> glossy campaigns...perhaps they could spend SOME on Well run
> and well funded animal shelters.
> 
> 
> 
> My advice: Support your local SPCA, Humane Society or Animal
> Shelter ..Do not support PETA
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Peta Kills Animals

2010-01-07 Thread Debbie Bates

Unfortunately, this does not come as any surprise to me

Debbie 
“Sometimes you have to look reality in the eye and deny it” (Garrison Keillor)



 
> From: ssjew...@bellsouth.net
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 14:24:09 -0500
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Peta Kills Animals
> 
> 
> --
> 
> PETA Killed 95 Percent of Adoptable Pets in its Care During
> 2008
> 
> 
> --
> 
> 
> 
> This is a rather disturbing story forwarded to me by a vet.
> 
> 
> 
> Hypocritical Animal Rights Group's 2008 Disclosures Bring
> Pet Death Toll To 21,339
> 
> 
> 
> WASHINGTON DC - Today the nonprofit Center for Consumer
> Freedom (CCF) published documents online showing that People
> for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) killed 95
> percent of the adoptable pets in its care during 2008.
> Despite years of public outrage over its euthanasia program,
> the animal rights group kills an average of 5.8 pets every
> day at its Norfolk, VA headquarters.
> 
> 
> 
> According to public records from the Virginia Department of
> Agriculture and Consumer Services, PETA killed 2,124 pets
> last year and placed only seven in adoptive homes. Since
> 1998, a total of 21,339 dogs and cats have died at the hands
> of PETA workers.
> 
> 
> 
> Despite having a $32 million budget, PETA does not operate
> an adoption shelter. PETA employees make no discernible
> effort to find homes for the thousands of pets they kill
> every year. Last year, the Center for Consumer Freedom
> petitioned Virginia's State Veterinarian to reclassify PETA
> as a slaughterhouse.
> 
> 
> 
> CCF Research Director David Martosko said: "PETA hasn't
> slowed down its hypocritical killing machine one bit, but it
> keeps browbeating the rest of society with a phony 'animal
> rights' 
> 
> message. What about the rights of the thousands of dogs,
> cats, puppies, and kittens that die in PETA's headquarters
> building?"
> 
> 
> 
> Martosko added: "Since killing pets is A-OK with PETA, why
> should anyone listen to their demands about eating meat,
> using lab rats for medical research, or taking children to
> the circus?"
> 
> 
> 
> CCF obtained PETA's "Animal Record" filings since 1998 from
> the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer
> Services. Members of the public can see these documents at
> PetaKillsAnimals.com.
> 
> 
> 
> P.S. Completely disturbing, especially as this appears to be
> a factual story.
> 
> 
> 
> PETA does a TON of marketing and spends untold sums on
> glossy campaigns...perhaps they could spend SOME on Well run
> and well funded animal shelters.
> 
> 
> 
> My advice: Support your local SPCA, Humane Society or Animal
> Shelter ..Do not support PETA
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] PETA

2009-12-07 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
I understand that feeding ferals without doing anything else for them is
irresponsible. But people who speuter and stabilize feral colonies shouldn't
have to put up with PETA's arrogance. They are never going to make this a
world of all-inside animals, what they should be doing is realizing that
rather than killing animals under the excuse -- and it is just that -- that
they're saving them from some future agony. Yes, the life of an outside
feral can be short, and it hurts me that each and every one doesn't get the
love they should be getting, but they should not be deprived of life just to
fulfill this inflexible agenda. 

I helped trap two feral kittens in August, and tamed them down. At the
moment one is lying 3 feet from me, and the other is on top of the cat tree.
If I were sitting on the couch, one would certainly have come and flopped
into my lap, and the other would be pushing my hand for pets.  They couldn't
be more trusting. It saddens me that PETA is depriving ferals of a chance at
a future nice life with someone willing to put in a few months bonding time,
or even a nice life being regularly fed in a colony, just because THEY think
that all ferals do is suffer and die.

Diane R.

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 7:01 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PETA

PETA does not object to people having pets (owned pet kept inside).
They object to people feeding strays or ferals.  They round up all the
strays and ferals they can and euthanize them. They also take cats from
animal shelters and euthanize them.

How absolutely infuriating that they ignored your e-mail and had the
audacity to request a donation!


On 12-06, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

> i sent my angry email and got a request for money from them.  they 
> totally ignored my question.  Diane Rosenfeldt 
>  wrote:

> > Aren't they vehemently opposed to any "pet ownership" at all? But I 
> > simply don't get why they would consider this treatment "ethical" -- 
> > nor how they can justify killing animals by saying they're saving 
> > them from "future" suffering that might never happen -- and in 
> > Sharyl's case, would NOT have happened. These people need slapping 
> > down.
> > 
> > Diane R.
> > 

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Re: [Felvtalk] PETA

2009-12-07 Thread Lorrie
PETA does not object to people having pets (owned pet kept inside).
They object to people feeding strays or ferals.  They round up all
the strays and ferals they can and euthanize them. They also take
cats from animal shelters and euthanize them.

How absolutely infuriating that they ignored your e-mail and had
the audacity to request a donation!


On 12-06, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

> i sent my angry email and got a request for money from them.  they
> totally ignored my question.  Diane Rosenfeldt
>  wrote:

> > Aren't they vehemently opposed to any "pet ownership" at all? But
> > I simply don't get why they would consider this treatment
> > "ethical" -- nor how they can justify killing animals by saying
> > they're saving them from "future" suffering that might never
> > happen -- and in Sharyl's case, would NOT have happened. These
> > people need slapping down.
> > 
> > Diane R.
> > 

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