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It sounds like Gunnar is negative to me. If you want to be sure you could test one more time. But remember that some cats test positive and are just 'carriers' and never get sick themselves.. Congratulations! tonya Susan Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My baby boy, Gunnar, will celebrate his first anniversary with his two sisters, Kelly (17) and Meagan (8) and his better than a Dad Ricky on August 2. Can you help me interpret his initial test results from one year ago - we have decided that through our faith and prayers that he has thrown the virus (or never had it) and will NOT retest him (it doesn't matter, we love him). But...his initial test results were: Test FeLV Elisa Results Positive Reference Range Negative Units Antigen Test FIV Elisa Results Negative Reference Range Negative Units Elisa Can someone, in plain English, explain these FELV results, please. Your assistance in this is much appreciated. For the year that I have been a part of this list and reading your advice and stories, I TRUST YOU MORE THAN ANY VET THAT I COULD SPEAK WITH. You are brave people who sometimes take the worse and make it better, who through the worse adversity stand tall and proud and roll with the punches, who adopt kits who wouldn't normally be saved or given a home - I SAY MY PRAYERS AND GIVE MY THANKS TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. In my hours of need, each of you and your words were there for me, and my family, giving us faith, giving us strength and giving us the best advice on Earth. I WANT TO THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU (especially Catatonya) FOR YOUR HOPE AND GUIDANCE. MAY GOD BLESS EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. As for me and family family of Ricky, me (Sissy), Kelly (17), Meagan (8) and Gunnar (2), thank you all from the bottom of each of our hearts. When it was needed, you truly saved the day. Gunnar is now part of the family because we were given the hope that he could safely live with two negative Sisters. I don't know what we would do without him - I also thank God that He made it impossible to adopt Gunnar out - I now get to keep him for myself. Thanks for your help. Thank you for EVERYTHING. You guys are God's gift! Take care and keep the faith.
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Susan, Thank you for your sweet words. I feel strongly about this group too. I don't think I can answer your question very well, other than that those tests can be wrong. Either he was positive, and threw the virus. Or he wasn't positive at all and the first test was wrong. Or he is positive and the second test was wrong. No matter what, I feel as you do. It doesn't matter; you'll love him just the same. The only thing you have to keep in mind is if he IS positive, you might want to supplement him with immune boosters. I think there's a good chance he's not though. So happy things are going well for your brood! God bless, :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Susan Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 7:36:59 PM Subject: test results your interpretation/your advice My baby boy, Gunnar, will celebrate his first anniversary with his two sisters, Kelly (17) and Meagan (8) and his better than a Dad Ricky on August 2. Can you help me interpret his initial test results from one year ago - we have decided that through our faith and prayers that he has thrown the virus (or never had it) and will NOT retest him (it doesn't matter, we love him). But...his initial test results were: Test FeLV Elisa Results Positive Reference Range Negative Units Antigen Test FIV Elisa Results Negative Reference Range Negative Units Elisa Can someone, in plain English, explain these FELV results, please. Your assistance in this is much appreciated. For the year that I have been a part of this list and reading your advice and stories, I TRUST YOU MORE THAN ANY VET THAT I COULD SPEAK WITH. You are brave people who sometimes take the worse and make it better, who through the worse adversity stand tall and proud and roll with the punches, who adopt kits who wouldn't normally be saved or given a home - I SAY MY PRAYERS AND GIVE MY THANKS TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. In my hours of need, each of you and your words were there for me, and my family, giving us faith, giving us strength and giving us the best advice on Earth. I WANT TO THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU (especially Catatonya) FOR YOUR HOPE AND GUIDANCE. MAY GOD BLESS EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. As for me and family family of Ricky, me (Sissy), Kelly (17), Meagan (8) and Gunnar (2), thank you all from the bottom of each of our hearts. When it was needed, you truly saved the day. Gunnar is now part of the family because we were given the hope that he could safely live with two negative Sisters. I don't know what we would do without him - I also thank God that He made it impossible to adopt Gunnar out - I now get to keep him for myself. Thanks for your help. Thank you for EVERYTHING. You guys are God's gift! Take care and keep the faith. Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow
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Susan, I agree w/ Wendy. I would supplement his diet regardless w/ some immune boosters like the ones we have been discussing on list, as well as the other 2 kitties. It can't hurt to take precautions. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: wendy To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 8:57 PM Subject: Re: test results your interpretation/your advice Susan, Thank you for your sweet words. I feel strongly about this group too. I don't think I can answer your question very well, other than that those tests can be wrong. Either he was positive, and threw the virus. Or he wasn't positive at all and the first test was wrong. Or he is positive and the second test was wrong. No matter what, I feel as you do. It doesn't matter; you'll love him just the same. The only thing you have to keep in mind is if he IS positive, you might want to supplement him with immune boosters. I think there's a good chance he's not though. So happy things are going well for your brood! God bless, :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~
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it's hard to know for sure what really happened as we cannot re-test the blood from a year ago obviously.. but I would not be surprised at al he was exposed to the virus a year ago, and threw the virus off - again, it's not that uncommon for an older kitty -- either way, it's a great news!! congratulations!! - Original Message - From: wendymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 7:57 PM Subject: Re: test results your interpretation/your advice Susan, Thank you for your sweet words. I feel strongly about this group too. I don't think I can answer your question very well, other than that those tests can be wrong. Either he was positive, and threw the virus. Or he wasn't positive at all and the first test was wrong. Or he is positive and the second test was wrong. No matter what, I feel as you do. It doesn't matter; you'll love him just the same. The only thing you have to keep in mind is if he IS positive, you might want to supplement him with immune boosters. I think there's a good chance he's not though. So happy things are going well for your brood! God bless, :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Susan Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 7:36:59 PM Subject: test results your interpretation/your advice My baby boy, Gunnar, will celebrate his first anniversary with his two sisters, Kelly (17) and Meagan (8) and his better than a Dad Ricky on August 2. Can you help me interpret his initial test results from one year ago - we have decided that through our faith and prayers that he has thrown the virus (or never had it) and will NOT retest him (it doesn't matter, we love him). But...his initial test results were: Test FeLV Elisa Results Positive Reference Range Negative Units Antigen Test FIV Elisa Results Negative Reference Range Negative Units Elisa Can someone, in plain English, explain these FELV results, please. Your assistance in this is much appreciated. For the year that I have been a part of this list and reading your advice and stories, I TRUST YOU MORE THAN ANY VET THAT I COULD SPEAK WITH. You are brave people who sometimes take the worse and make it better, who through the worse adversity stand tall and proud and roll with the punches, who adopt kits who wouldn't normally be saved or given a home - I SAY MY PRAYERS AND GIVE MY THANKS TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. In my hours of need, each of you and your words were there for me, and my family, giving us faith, giving us strength and giving us the best advice on Earth. I WANT TO THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU (especially Catatonya) FOR YOUR HOPE AND GUIDANCE. MAY GOD BLESS EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. As for me and family family of Ricky, me (Sissy), Kelly (17), Meagan (8) and Gunnar (2), thank you all from the bottom of each of our hearts. When it was needed, you truly saved the day. Gunnar is now part of the family because we were given the hope that he could safely live with two negative Sisters. I don't know what we would do without him - I also thank God that He made it impossible to adopt Gunnar out - I now get to keep him for myself. Thanks for your help. Thank you for EVERYTHING. You guys are God's gift! Take care and keep the faith. -- Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top pickshttp://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48220/*http://tv.yahoo.com/ on Yahoo! TV.
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I think vets 'have' to say there is a risk involved to cover themselves against lawsuits. Just like if you get put to sleep to have a tooth removal you have to sign that youare aware you could die but how many people really die from that Well since a few and far between have... you have to sign the form. I think that's what it is more than a vet seriously thinking the disease will be transmitted to a negative cat.tTenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:belinda, have you ever seen any research about a VACCINATED negative ever turning positive from living with a positive? i have not--and the experiences of folks on this list as well as friends with positives and vaccinated negatives seems to bear this out i've come to think that, when they say the vaccine is only 85% effective, they're not talking about the whole cat population, but only the highly compromised parts--the very young and very old who are most at risk to start with. otherwise, how could 70% of unvaccinated, adult cats manage to throw the virus off consistently? friend is a BIG black cat at the sanctuary, who lived for years in the FeLV compound. he'd been a feral, and obviously tested positive before he came into our care. four years or so ago, he became very ill, to the daily fluids and force-feeding level. he pulled through that, and tho he's had a couple of bouts of other major uris and things, he's been very healthy for the last year and a half or so. for some reason, about a year ago, he was retested--something that isn't regularly done with the FeLVs. guess what--this little brat, who's been quite sickly at least 3 times that i know of, and who has been living exclusively with FeLVs, is NEGATIVE on the ifa he's now a huge, spoiled-rotten housecat, and his story really makes me wonder about how contagious this virus is, whether or not initial exposure immunizes them against subsequent--and in his case, constant--exposure, and such-like issues On 7/12/06, Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:As you said no test is 100% accurate, the IFA is the better test. The hard part, is your almost certainly not going to know when a cat was exposed so the accuracy of the test is always going to be questionable. A cat that tests positive may still be in the stage of trying to fight the virus off and may very well test negative at a later date. The way I look at it is that a healthy, vaccinated negative cat is very unlikely to get the virus from a positive, and if they did their own healthy immune system would most likely successfully fight it off. Not to say it couldn't happen, but I personally believe the chances are almost zero. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.comBMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com-- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892
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As you said no test is 100% accurate, the IFA is the better test. The hard part, is your almost certainly not going to know when a cat was exposed so the accuracy of the test is always going to be questionable. A cat that tests positive may still be in the stage of trying to fight the virus off and may very well test negative at a later date. The way I look at it is that a healthy, vaccinated negative cat is very unlikely to get the virus from a positive, and if they did their own healthy immune system would most likely successfully fight it off. Not to say it couldn't happen, but I personally believe the chances are almost zero. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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belinda, have you ever seen any research about a VACCINATED negative ever turning positive from living with a positive? i have not--and the experiences of folks on this list as well as friends with positives and vaccinated negatives seems to bear this out i've come to think that, when they say the vaccine is only 85% effective, they're not talking about the whole cat population, but only the highly compromised parts--the very young and very old who are most at risk to start with. otherwise, how could 70% of unvaccinated, adult cats manage to throw the virus off consistently? friend is a BIG black cat at the sanctuary, who lived for years in the FeLV compound. he'd been a feral, and obviously tested positive before he came into our care. four years or so ago, he became very ill, to the daily fluids and force-feeding level. he pulled through that, and tho he's had a couple of bouts of other major uris and things, he's been very healthy for the last year and a half or so. for some reason, about a year ago, he was retested--something that isn't regularly done with the FeLVs. guess what--this little brat, who's been quite sickly at least 3 times that i know of, and who has been living exclusively with FeLVs, is NEGATIVE on the ifa he's now a huge, spoiled-rotten housecat, and his story really makes me wonder about how contagious this virus is, whether or not initial exposure immunizes them against subsequent--and in his case, constant--exposure, and such-like issues On 7/12/06, Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As you said no test is 100% accurate, the IFA is the better test. The hard part, is your almost certainly not going to know when a cat was exposed so the accuracy of the test is always going to be questionable. A cat that tests positive may still be in the stage of trying to fight the virus off and may very well test negative at a later date. The way I look at it is that a healthy, vaccinated negative cat is very unlikely to get the virus from a positive, and if they did their own healthy immune system would most likely successfully fight it off. Not to say it couldn't happen, but I personally believe the chances are almost zero. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com-- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892
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MC, The way I look at it is that a healthy, vaccinated negative cat is very unlikely to get the virus from a positive, and if they did their own healthy immune system would most likely successfully fight it off. Not to say it couldn't happen, but I personally believe the chances are almost zero. I personally have never seen it but I know there has been one or two people on the list in the past that were sure this is what happened to them. That's why I said what I did. I personally think that it's more likely the cat was positive all along but gave a false negative when originally tested and then when sick and retested the cat came up positive then. Of course their vet would tell them the cat just got it and if they have another known positive, guess who gets blamed. Though the possibility exists, I personally am comfortable in mixing my cats because from my own experience and so many others I know of, I don't think it's very likely. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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You know, Ive often wondered whether its worth retesting a pos. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TenHouseCats Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:47 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: test results belinda, have you ever seen any research about a VACCINATED negative ever turning positive from living with a positive? i have not--and the experiences of folks on this list as well as friends with positives and vaccinated negatives seems to bear this out i've come to think that, when they say the vaccine is only 85% effective, they're not talking about the whole cat population, but only the highly compromised parts--the very young and very old who are most at risk to start with. otherwise, how could 70% of unvaccinated, adult cats manage to throw the virus off consistently? friend is a BIG black cat at the sanctuary, who lived for years in the FeLV compound. he'd been a feral, and obviously tested positive before he came into our care. four years or so ago, he became very ill, to the daily fluids and force-feeding level. he pulled through that, and tho he's had a couple of bouts of other major uris and things, he's been very healthy for the last year and a half or so. for some reason, about a year ago, he was retested--something that isn't regularly done with the FeLVs. guess what--this little brat, who's been quite sickly at least 3 times that i know of, and who has been living exclusively with FeLVs, is NEGATIVE on the ifa he's now a huge, spoiled-rotten housecat, and his story really makes me wonder about how contagious this virus is, whether or not initial exposure immunizes them against subsequent--and in his case, constant--exposure, and such-like issues On 7/12/06, Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As you said no test is 100% accurate, the IFA is the better test. The hard part, is your almost certainly not going to know when a cat was exposed so the accuracy of the test is always going to be questionable. A cat that tests positive may still be in the stage of trying to fight the virus off and may very well test negative at a later date. The way I look at it is that a healthy, vaccinated negative cat is very unlikely to get the virus from a positive, and if they did their own healthy immune system would most likely successfully fight it off. Not to say it couldn't happen, but I personally believe the chances are almost zero. -- Belindahappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kittieshttp://bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittenshttp://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candlelight Servicehttp://bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design]http://HostDesign4U.comBMK Designs [non-profit animals websites]http://bmk.bemikitties.com -- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
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I have 5 cats: the first came in as a 5 month old; the next three came in as very young kittens found all alone outside. All were tested at their first vet visit. Four years later one of the ones that came in as a 2 month old tested positive. She'd never been outside in four years. Two vets told me that you can get a false neg on the tests depending at what stage its in. Also, you can get a pos that then becomes neg if cat throws off the virus. Bottom line, I became convinced that it's a gamble either way. Now all the cats all lived together, sharing bowls, litter boxes, grooming, etc. The other 3 all tested negative! So chances of spread--not as high as everybody says it is. By the way, my 5th cat came in as an adult stray who I had been feeding daily for two years. He'd never been sick in all that time and when I got him tested--he was pos. I just think that there are a whole more cats who do test pos for FELV--we just don't know about it Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 11:55 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: test results As a lifelong cat lover and owner of seven, I was just wondering how we can ever know when we are truly adopting a negative kitten. Years ago I wouldn't think twice about finding a homeless cat, falling in love with it, and bringing it straight home with me. Now, after having experience with finding positive kittens(strays from the neighborhood), i've found myself becoming overly afraid of this disease and accidentally bringing it to my negatives. I'm not trying to adopt a cat at this time, but for future reference, I was wondering if the test that they send out to the lab(always forget the name of it) is a pretty accurate indicator. I was browing a petsmart adoption event and saw young cats and was wondering if they had the lab test done, at what age can it ever be considered accurate. I've read enough on this web site to know that it seems no test is really 100%, but was wondering if the sent to the lab test was negative on a young cat if it would then be about as safe as it gets. I know this sounds silly, but as much as I love cats, I know in the future I will find a kitty needing a home and I was just looking for reassurance in a more comprehensive lab test. Thanks for listening.
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- Original Message - From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, June 11, 2006 3:43 am Subject: Re: Test results and an OT question To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org OMG Kelley, that's fabulous news about the neg results!! It must be what I said about false positive results, there's no other way to explain it. They were pretty shocked she tested neg after testing pos 3 days ago. I was very happy until I heard about the heart murmur. As far as the heart murmur kitty... What grade murmur did your vet say it was? Many kittens and puppies have slight heart murmurs that resolve themselves as they grow. How old is she? If it's a serious one, there are surgical options that you could consider. My ex-husband adopted an 5 week old kitten that had serious heart problems. They did open heart surgery on this little tiny girl and the vet has assured him that she's going to be fine now. I don't know about neg cats and different size pupils, but I know it's something that does occur with felv kitties and doesn't seem to cause any trouble. Does the vet think that her teeth are curved enough to cause her problems? Well, first of all this was not my vet. This was a vet at the city subsidized shot/combo test/spay/neuter place. I got there 10 minutes before they opened and it was a 4.5 hour wait. I hated to do that to them but since it was 5 tests, I couldn't really afford to go to my vet and have it done (he gives me huge discounts and I love him, but not that huge). This vet listened to her heart, said This cat has a heart murmur and we can't inoculate it here. She didn't tell me what grade it was, nor offer me any opinion on her teeth other than that they were genetically abnormal. She couldn't believe Missy had been to the vet before, or that she had gotten spayed at Emancipet(I know heart murmur kitties are supposed to have gas anasthesia.) Take another deep breath. You had a terrible fright with the felv test and that turned out, (at least it appears to have), been nothing to worry about. I'm praying that your special love's problems will work themselves out too. What's her name? My babies name is Missy. She's a tiny little girl, and they remarked on her thinness, though I have been feeding her extra fattening stuff and kitten milk and managed to get her to 5.5 pounds. Her immune system seems abnormal, and she gets URI a lot and has to be syringe fed, and then we lose the progress we have gained. That's one reason I had her re-tested, but she has 2 negative results now, one in November and one Saturday. I kept holding her up to my ear all weekend to see if I could hear anything, I know that is silly. She's spoiled rotten, even with the dozens of cats in my house. She spends most of her time in my lap if I am at home and sitting, or following me around if I am not sitting. She gives me kisses if I am really sad...I say she saves them for when I really need them, but I realistically she probably just likes the salt in my tears. Here's a link to her pic: http://www.moonvine.net/missy.jpg She's 8 months now. I have an appointment for her with my real vet on Saturday. I don't want her left all day at the vet feeling abandoned, nor being dragged around in the heat, unless it is a real emergency. Kelley
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One of my older negatives has had a heart murmur for years. We had it checked out by a specialist. It's never caused a problem so far...Great news about the negative tests!tonya[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cats can develop heart murmurs JUST from the stress of being at the vet's office (onethey don't actually have normally). Try to find a vet that can come to your home andexamine her without the stress of a car ride and the vet's office.You might get some good support from the Handicats2 yahoogroup... they have all kindsof disabilities there.http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HANDICATS2/ is the URL.PhaewrynPLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!!http://ucat.us/adopt.htmlDONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (forpictures) and HOMES for CATS!-- No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/360 - Release Date: 6/9/2006
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Oh Kelley! Stop it with that picture of Missy! She's just too cute for words, no wonder she's stolen your heart. Don't the tiny, needy ones seem to worm their way into a special place in our lives? I think it's fine to wait and bring Missy to your regular vet. Just tell Missy you're bringing her to show her off, that they will want to pet her and tell her how beautiful she is. This doesn't sound like it should be a traumatic visit, just an exam, right? Why don't you ask your vet about supplements, like CoQ10 for her heart, and maybe Interferon A for immune support. A woman I know has had remarkable results with CoQ10, but she did say that you shouldn't start and stop that sup, you might want to ask him if he knows anything about that too. Maybe someone else on the list knows more about it and will let us know. What have you done for her URIs? Do they ever resolve themselves completely? I know there have been list members that have had success with URIs and anemia using something called Immuno-Regulin. You can look it up on our archives for more info, we have discussed it a lot. Personally, I'd hesitate in using it unless the situation were getting desperate, but I thought I'd throw it out there for you to discuss with your vet. Hugs to you, Missy and all your babies, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, June 11, 2006 3:43 am Subject: Re: Test results and an OT question To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org OMG Kelley, that's fabulous news about the neg results!! It must be what I said about false positive results, there's no other way to explain it. They were pretty shocked she tested neg after testing pos 3 days ago. I was very happy until I heard about the heart murmur. As far as the heart murmur kitty... What grade murmur did your vet say it was? Many kittens and puppies have slight heart murmurs that resolve themselves as they grow. How old is she? If it's a serious one, there are surgical options that you could consider. My ex-husband adopted an 5 week old kitten that had serious heart problems. They did open heart surgery on this little tiny girl and the vet has assured him that she's going to be fine now. I don't know about neg cats and different size pupils, but I know it's something that does occur with felv kitties and doesn't seem to cause any trouble. Does the vet think that her teeth are curved enough to cause her problems? Well, first of all this was not my vet. This was a vet at the city subsidized shot/combo test/spay/neuter place. I got there 10 minutes before they opened and it was a 4.5 hour wait. I hated to do that to them but since it was 5 tests, I couldn't really afford to go to my vet and have it done (he gives me huge discounts and I love him, but not that huge). This vet listened to her heart, said "This cat has a heart murmur and we can't inoculate it here." She didn't tell me what grade it was, nor offer me any opinion on her teeth other than that they were genetically abnormal. She couldn't believe Missy had been to the vet before, or that she had gotten spayed at Emancipet(I know heart murmur kitties are supposed to have gas anasthesia.) Take another deep breath. You had a terrible fright with the felv test and that turned out, (at least it appears to have), been nothing to worry about. I'm praying that your special love's problems will work themselves out too. What's her name? My babies name is Missy. She's a tiny little girl, and they remarked on her thinness, though I have been feeding her extra fattening stuff and kitten milk and managed to get her to 5.5 pounds. Her immune system seems abnormal, and she gets URI a lot and has to be syringe fed, and then we lose the progress we have gained. That's one reason I had her re-tested, but she has 2 negative results now, one in November and one Saturday. I kept holding her up to my ear all weekend to see if I could hear anything, I know that is silly. She's spoiled rotten, even with the dozens of cats in my house. She spends most of her time in my lap if I am at home and sitting, or following me around if I am not sitting. She gives me kisses if I am really sad...I say she saves them for when I really need them, but I realistically she probably just likes the salt in my tears. Here's a link to her pic: http://www.moonvine.net/missy.jpg She's 8 months now. I have an appointment for her with my real vet on Saturday. I don't want her left all day at the vet feeling abandoned, nor being dragged around in the heat, unless it is a real emergency. Kelley
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Oh Kelley! Stop it with that picture of Missy! She's just too cute for words, no wonder she's stolen your heart. Don't the tiny, needy ones seem to worm their way into a special place in our lives? She is my baby girl! It is very scary to love another living thing this much. I am single and have no children, and Missy is very special to me. I think it's fine to wait and bring Missy to your regular vet. Just tell Missy you're bringing her to show her off, that they will want to pet her and tell her how beautiful she is. This doesn't sound like it should be a traumatic visit, just an exam, right? I think it will be ok. If he says she can be vaccinated, she will be vaccinated, but my regular vet is so good at vaccinations that my cats don't even notice they have been stuck. Why don't you ask your vet about supplements, like CoQ10 for her heart, and maybe Interferon A for immune support. A woman I know has had remarkable results with CoQ10, but she did say that you shouldn't start and stop that sup, you might want to ask him if he knows anything about that too. Maybe someone else on the list knows more about it and will let us know. I am making a list of stuff to ask him, thanks! What have you done for her URIs? Do they ever resolve themselves completely? She had URI when she came from the shelter (I've had her since she was less than 3 months). She was on Zithro. It resolved completely. By the time I went to get her and her littermates spayed/neutered, she was 4 months and was 4 lb. Her sister was 4.5 and her brother 6. She had no problems with the spay. I took her to my personal vet because she developed conjunctivitis. I expressed concern over her thinness and he told me she was ok, but to feed her fattening stuff to try to get some weight on her. I got her over the conjunctivitis and she got URI again. She was on zithro again, and it resolved. She got it again, and pretty badly, lost a lot of weight and I had to syringe her. She scared me pretty badly this last time. I think she lost probably a whole pound. Now she seems to have it again, but it isn't as bad a case. This is another reason I had her retested. Her immune system just does not seem right at all. I have 4 litters of kittens in my house right no w, and they all had URI, but she was the only older cat I have that got it.
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Missy is absolutely beautiful and I can see why she's your love![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh Kelley! Stop it with that picture of Missy! She's just too cute for words, no wonder she's stolen your heart. Don't the tiny, needy ones seem to worm their way into a special place in our lives? She is my baby girl! It is very scary to love another living thing this much. I am single and have no children, and Missy is very special to me.I think it's fine to wait and bring Missy to your regular vet. Just tell Missy you're bringing her to show her off, that they will want to pet her and tell her how beautiful she is. This doesn't sound like it should be a traumatic visit, just an exam, right? I think it will be ok. If he says she can be vaccinated, she will be vaccinated, but my regular vet is so good at vaccinations that my cats don't even notice they have been stuck.Why don't you ask your vet about supplements, like CoQ10 for her heart, and maybe Interferon A for immune support. A woman I know has had remarkable results with CoQ10, but she did say that you shouldn't start and stop that sup, you might want to ask him if he knows anything about that too. Maybe someone else on the list knows more about it and will let us know. I am making a list of stuff to ask him, thanks!What have you done for her URIs? Do they ever resolve themselves completely? She had URI when she came from the shelter (I've had her since she was less than 3 months). She was on Zithro. It resolved completely. By the time I went to get her and her littermates spayed/neutered, she was 4 months and was 4 lb. Her sister was 4.5 and her brother 6. She had no problems with the spay. I took her to my personal vet because she developed conjunctivitis. I expressed concern over her thinness and he told me she was ok, but to feed her fattening stuff to try to get some weight on her. I got her over the conjunctivitis and she got URI again. She was on zithro again, and it resolved. She got it again, and pretty badly, lost a lot of weight and I had to syringe her. She scared me pretty badly this last time. I think she lost probably a whole pound. Now she seems to have it again, but it isn't as bad a case. This is another reason I had her retested. Her immune system just does not seem right at all. I have 4 litters of kittens in my house right now, and they all had URI, but she was the only older cat I have that got it. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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OMG Kelley, that's fabulous news about the neg results!! It must be what I said about false positive results, there's no other way to explain it. As far as retesting your other previously tested neg cats, your vet is probably right. You seem to have never really had felv in the house. My goodness girl, way to dodge the bullet! You are truly blessed. If it will put your mind at ease, go ahead and have them tested again. They can get some base line cbc results to keep on file at the same time, if you like. As far as the heart murmur kitty... What grade murmur did your vet say it was? Many kittens and puppies have slight heart murmurs that resolve themselves as they grow. How old is she? If it's a serious one, there are surgical options that you could consider. My ex-husband adopted an 5 week old kitten that had serious heart problems. They did open heart surgery on this little tiny girl and the vet has assured him that she's going to be fine now. I don't know about neg cats and different size pupils, but I know it's something that does occur with felv kitties and doesn't seem to cause any trouble. Does the vet think that her teeth are curved enough to cause her problems? Take another deep breath. You had a terrible fright with the felv test and that turned out, (at least it appears to have), been nothing to worry about. I'm praying that your special love's problems will work themselves out too. What's her name? You've obviously got a very powerful Angel on your shoulder, keep the faith that they won't let you down. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, I took 5 kittens/cats in to be tested today. The little girl who previously tested pos tested negative today. So did all her littermates and the unrelated cat. Very, very good news. I still don't understand how one who tested positive 3 days ago tested negative today, but she did. The vet at the clinic feels it is unnecessary at this point to have cats in my home who have previously tested negative re-tested. Do you agree? Also, unfortunately, one little girl I took in was diagnosed with a heart murmur, so they would not inoculate her. The vet also stated she had some genetic abnormalities - asymmetric pupils and teeth that curve in instead of going straight downI'm very worried about her now as she is the love of my life. Do any of yall know of any good web resources on heart murmurs? I'm taking her in for a second opinion next weekend. I wanted to thank everyone for being there for me the last few days. You are an awesome group of people. I learned a lot about this disease, too. Thanks so much, Kelley
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Awesome news! Though I have to say I'm not surprised she retested negative! ;) I found it a little odd that her littermate was negative as kittens are very susceptible to the virus...I suspected a false positive, like Nina, but didn't want to put the cart before the horse, so-to-speak! I'm so glad to hear that that was the case! Unfortunately, I don't know much about the genetic abnormalities that you mentioned! I did have one cat who had a murmur...but it never affected him as far as I know...I used to give him 30 mg of CoQ10 every day as it is supposed to be good for the heart muscle. But I definitely second the second opinion for your little one! :) Jen But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de Saint-Exupéry If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan George The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long... --Blade Runner - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, June 10, 2006 2:12 pm Subject: Test results and an OT question To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Hi guys, I took 5 kittens/cats in to be tested today. The little girl who previously tested pos tested negative today. So did all her littermates and the unrelated cat. Very, very good news. I still don't understand how one who tested positive 3 days ago tested negative today, but she did. The vet at the clinic feels it is unnecessary at this point to have cats in my home who have previously tested negative re-tested. Do you agree? Also, unfortunately, one little girl I took in was diagnosed with a heart murmur, so they would not inoculate her. The vet also stated she had some genetic abnormalities - asymmetric pupils and teeth that curve in instead of going straight downI'm very worried about her now as she is the love of my life. Do any of yall know of any good web resources on heart murmurs? I'm taking her in for a second opinion next weekend. I wanted to thank everyone for being there for me the last few days. You are an awesome group of people. I learned a lot about this disease, too. Thanks so much, Kelley
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Cats can develop heart murmurs JUST from the stress of being at the vet's office (one they don't actually have normally). Try to find a vet that can come to your home and examine her without the stress of a car ride and the vet's office. You might get some good support from the Handicats2 yahoogroup... they have all kinds of disabilities there. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HANDICATS2/ is the URL. Phaewryn PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/360 - Release Date: 6/9/2006
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I haven't followed this closely but I have a question: Is it possible to give the cat some sort of mild sedative before taking it to the vet's to avoid the stress reaction? I try to give mine Rescue Remedy just because she absolutely hates vets. I don't know what happened to her before she came to live with me but she is the only critter (dog or cat) that starts trembling at the thought of going to the vet. Her current vets have given her no reason to be so frightened. Like I said, just a thought. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 3:37 PM Subject: Re: Test results and an OT question Cats can develop heart murmurs JUST from the stress of being at the vet's office (one they don't actually have normally). Try to find a vet that can come to your home and examine her without the stress of a car ride and the vet's office. You might get some good support from the Handicats2 yahoogroup... they have all kinds of disabilities there. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HANDICATS2/ is the URL. Phaewryn PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/360 - Release Date: 6/9/2006
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The only thing I know is Acepromazine, but I don't know if it would interfere with getting accurate readings, etc. Also, personally, I cannot see that it made any difference in the two cats I have used it on. My cat Spaz will run and hide at the mere sound of the carrier, but it is only because she has spent so much time at the vet's being poked on (blood drawings, mostly). Also, my four other former ferals are afraid of the carrier, but that's more understandable. Is your cat nervous when you try to get her to take her to the vet, or does she get nervous once there in the presence of the techs/vet? Kris http://www.spazstory.zoomshare.com - Original Message - From: Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 6:25 PM Subject: Re: Test results and an OT question I haven't followed this closely but I have a question: Is it possible to give the cat some sort of mild sedative before taking it to the vet's to avoid the stress reaction? I try to give mine Rescue Remedy just because she absolutely hates vets. I don't know what happened to her before she came to live with me but she is the only critter (dog or cat) that starts trembling at the thought of going to the vet. Her current vets have given her no reason to be so frightened. Like I said, just a thought. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 3:37 PM Subject: Re: Test results and an OT question Cats can develop heart murmurs JUST from the stress of being at the vet's office (one they don't actually have normally). Try to find a vet that can come to your home and examine her without the stress of a car ride and the vet's office. You might get some good support from the Handicats2 yahoogroup... they have all kinds of disabilities there. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HANDICATS2/ is the URL. Phaewryn PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/360 - Release Date: 6/9/2006
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So glad your little one retested neg! I agree with your vet about retesting your other cats, but personally, I would still have them vaccinated. I don't know anything about heart murmurs, but as far as the teeth go, does the vet feel it will be detrimental to her oral health or ability to eat, etc. The reason I ask is because I am a dental lab technician and I know of cases where labs, vets, and dentists have worked together to restore feline/canine teeth. Kris http://www.spazstory.zoomshare.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 3:11 PM Subject: Test results and an OT question Hi guys, I took 5 kittens/cats in to be tested today. The little girl who previously tested pos tested negative today. So did all her littermates and the unrelated cat. Very, very good news. I still don't understand how one who tested positive 3 days ago tested negative today, but she did. The vet at the clinic feels it is unnecessary at this point to have cats in my home who have previously tested negative re-tested. Do you agree? Also, unfortunately, one little girl I took in was diagnosed with a heart murmur, so they would not inoculate her. The vet also stated she had some genetic abnormalities - asymmetric pupils and teeth that curve in instead of going straight downI'm very worried about her now as she is the love of my life. Do any of yall know of any good web resources on heart murmurs? I'm taking her in for a second opinion next weekend. I wanted to thank everyone for being there for me the last few days. You are an awesome group of people. I learned a lot about this disease, too. Thanks so much, Kelley
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Ace is a dangerous drug used in cats but not one I would ever recommend. Especially for a cat with heart issues, I would NOT ever use any tranquilizers. We recently discussed the use of ACE in cats on one of the lists I am on... must not have been this one though. The consensus was to NOT use it though (and this was for a healthy cat just for a trip). http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_acepromazine.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acepromazine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenothiazine (oh, did I mention it's MADE out of a pesticide?) http://a1272.g.akamai.net/7/1272/1121/20050919193122/www.drsfostersmith.com/Rx_Info_Sheets/rx_acepromazine.pdf (this is the patient info sheet, just like you get when you pick up a prescription for yourself, most vets do NOT provide these for meds prescribed to your pets... makes you wonder why, doesn't it?) http://www.wedgewoodpharmacy.com/monographs/AcepromazineMaleate.asp Phaewryn PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/360 - Release Date: 6/9/2006
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In a message dated 6/5/2006 4:37:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I cannot understand how an animal that licks its hindquarters refuses to eat Mega C. Go figure . . LOL...I never thought about it that way before. Good point!! :) When my cats won't take something, at my vet's suggestion, I either cover the pill itself w/ butter, or crush it put it into any empty gel cap cover that w/ butter. Then freeze it. It slides right down without the butter coming off. Worked like a charm when I had to give nasty metronidazole to 4 of mine at the same time. Yvonne
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Don't know if anyone answered you but yes the test results could definitely change in several months. The in house test is not 100% accurate, if you get a positive in house test I would wait atleast 3 months and retest using an IFA or PCR test, they are better tests. Also in the meantime while your waiting to retest, get them on the best food you can afford, and interferon if you can. There are other supplements like Mega C plus I would use also, you can find that here: http://www.belfield.com/products.html Here is an article he wrote that you may find interesting: http://www.belfield.com/article2.html -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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About Belfield's Mega C . . .I ordered some, but Bella will not touch it! I've tried mixing minuscule amountb in both canned Felidae and dry California Naturals. If she detects the faintest amount, she will not eay it. (We had a battle of wills in which that was all I offered her for 2 1/2 days. She won. She never ate it. I finally relented since I don't think fasting can be all that good for her . . .)Do any of you have tricks to get a cat to eat the Mega C? (I've thougth about mixing it with water and putting it on her coats, but I haven't done that yet.) I cannot understand how an animal that licks its hindquarters refuses to eat Mega C. Go figure . . .~AshleighBelinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't know if anyone answered you but yes the test results could definitely change in several months. The in house test is not 100% accurate, if you get a positive in house test I would wait atleast 3 months and retest using an IFA or PCR test, they are better tests. Also in the meantime while your waiting to retest, get them on the best food you can afford, and interferon if you can. There are other supplements like Mega C plus I would use also, you can find that here:http://www.belfield.com/products.htmlHere is an article he wrote that you may find interesting:http://www.belfield.com/article2.html-- Belindahappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kittieshttp://bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittenshttp://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candlelight Servicehttp://bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design]http://HostDesign4U.comBMK Designs [non-profit animals websites]http://bmk.bemikitties.com __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Sorry my cats haven't refused it, wish I could help. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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I don't know what the recommended dosage is, but maybe you could get some empty gel caps at the health food store and pill her? Have you had to give her pills before? Some cats are easy and some, uh, not so easy to pill. Just a thought. I was supplementing with vita C too, but it didn't have a pronounced taste and nobody refused it mixed in food. Nina Ashleigh Smith wrote: About Belfield's Mega C . . . I ordered some, but Bella will not touch it! I've tried mixing minuscule amountb in both canned Felidae and dry California Naturals. If she detects the faintest amount, she will not eay it. (We had a battle of wills in which that was all I offered her for 2 1/2 days. She won. She never ate it. I finally relented since I don't think fasting can be all that good for her . . .) Do any of you have tricks to get a cat to eat the Mega C? (I've thougth about mixing it with water and putting it on her coats, but I haven't done that yet.) I cannot understand how an animal that licks its hindquarters refuses to eat Mega C. Go figure . . . ~Ashleigh
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Hi Ashleigh, Maybe you could syringe dose her, mixing the Mega C in with broth or spring water? I know nothing about the particulars. Hopefully someone on the list has used this method before. Good luck to you and Bella. Lance
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I've mixed it with gruel and dosed it with a syringe in the batch of FeLV kittens I have in rescue right now. Works like a charm. I probably won't bother even trying to mix with wet food and offer it to them free choice as I hate the idea of them refusing and seeing it go to waste. Good luck! Rachel On 6/5/06, Lance Linimon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Ashleigh,Maybe you could syringe dose her, mixing the Mega C in with broth orspring water? I know nothing about the particulars. Hopefully someone on the list has used this method before. Good luck to you and Bella.Lance
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I mix the mega C in wet food and no rescue has ever refused it Karen
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NO, in house tests are commonly wrong to begin with.. and for true test results on kittens from a positive momma, they need to be at least 6 months old when tested. Then retest at 9 months and at one year before making any decisions. Confirm all tests with IFA if you can afford it, but at least confirm the 9 month test with IFA. Phaewryn (was Jenn, changed name) http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah (UCAT) Cat Rescue: http://ucat.us/adopt.html PLEASE DONATE TO THE TANGLE FUND: Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when someone wrapped wire around his neck to strangle him, Little Cheetah Cat Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont to find him a good home! http://ucat.us/tangle-fund.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures), and more towels! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.1/354 - Release Date: 6/1/2006
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like michelle I would like to know also.
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me too, I'm clueless on everything except hemocrit, which I know needs to be above 7 or soto live. I think that's the one abbr as HCT. Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.htmlAdopt a cat from UCAT rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html Adopt a FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/Adopt a FELV+ cat:http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html~~~I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!If you use KMR, even just one can, please email me for the NEW address to send them to!~Does your cat have chronic diarrhea that does not respond to treatment, or has your cat been loosely diagnosed as IBD? Have you tested for Tritrichomonosis? The test is new, the new drug makes it curable. Ask me today how you can test for Trich! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.7/182 - Release Date: 11/24/2005
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I think this site may be helpful in reading test results. http://home.gci.net/~divs/disease/lab_tests.html Gary - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 3:30 AM Subject: Test Results I have never gone into blood test results too much before but am intrgued from the ones recently put up by Carrie (if I remember correctly). Please could someone be so kind as to educate me as to what they all mean and what is normal and abnormal - send privately if it is too long for group mail but it would be better on group as I'm sure other people here would benefit too. I've listed Carries results below Thanks Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy Angel Bramble
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Here are a couple of more links on tests. http://www.thepetcenter.com/pha/cp.html http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=0cat=1474articleid=989 Gary - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 3:30 AM Subject: Test Results I have never gone into blood test results too much before but am intrgued from the ones recently put up by Carrie (if I remember correctly). Please could someone be so kind as to educate me as to what they all mean and what is normal and abnormal - send privately if it is too long for group mail but it would be better on group as I'm sure other people here would benefit too. I've listed Carries results below Thanks Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy Angel Bramble
