tor 2024-05-02 klockan 13:44 -0400 skrev Vittorio Giovara:
> I believe the path forward would be designing a system that can
> accommodate
> both workflows, a main git{hub,lab} interface which can send and
> mirror the
> discussion happening on the mailing list for those who prefer emails.
> Such
On Sat May 4, 2024 at 9:05 PM CEST, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> On Sat, May 04, 2024 at 09:11:12AM +0800, flow gg wrote:
> > [...]
> > If you need to use git-send-email, I may not be able to submit any code
> > If you do not need to use git-send-email, it is troublesome for the
> > reviewer and
On Sun, May 5, 2024 at 10:14 AM Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
> Le lauantaina 4. toukokuuta 2024, 23.35.34 EEST Michael Niedermayer a
> écrit :
> > now compare to the linux kernel
> > It uses mailing lists
>
> Sorry but that is at best misleading, and at worse, plain wrong.
>
> The top-level work
Le lauantaina 4. toukokuuta 2024, 23.35.34 EEST Michael Niedermayer a écrit :
> now compare to the linux kernel
> It uses mailing lists
Sorry but that is at best misleading, and at worse, plain wrong.
The top-level work flow for the Linux kernel is neither mailing list, nor web
forge, but CLI
On Sat, May 4, 2024 at 4:35 PM Michael Niedermayer
wrote:
> > - secure funding for larger projects
>
> what project you want to get funding for ?
> A wide range of things are funded, and last i asked when STF money was
> available
> i couldnt even find enough people willing to submit a project
> 在 2024年5月5日，上午5:51，epira...@gmail.com 写道：
>
>
>
>> On 4 May 2024, at 23:25, Andrew Sayers wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, May 04, 2024 at 09:28:03PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
On Fri, May 03, 2024 at 03:45:20PM +, Cosmin Stejerean via
ffmpeg-devel wrote:
>>> [...]
On 4 May 2024, at 23:25, Andrew Sayers wrote:
> On Sat, May 04, 2024 at 09:28:03PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> On Fri, May 03, 2024 at 03:45:20PM +, Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
>> wrote:
>> [...]
>>> What doesn't exist (yet) is a way to keep people on the exact
On Sat, May 04, 2024 at 09:28:03PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> Hi
>
> On Fri, May 03, 2024 at 03:45:20PM +, Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
> wrote:
> [...]
> > What doesn't exist (yet) is a way to keep people on the exact email based
> > workflow
> > we currently have, and have
On Sat, Apr 27, 2024 at 12:39:14PM -0400, Vittorio Giovara wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 27, 2024 at 6:24 AM Michael Niedermayer
> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 08:15:27AM -0700, Vittorio Giovara wrote:
> > > On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 3:00 PM Michael Niedermayer <
> > mich...@niedermayer.cc>
> > >
Hi
On Fri, May 03, 2024 at 03:45:20PM +, Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
wrote:
[...]
> What doesn't exist (yet) is a way to keep people on the exact email based
> workflow
> we currently have, and have bi-directional sync with something like github or
> gitlab.
> Such a thing could
On Sat, May 4, 2024 at 3:09 PM Michael Niedermayer
wrote:
> On Sat, May 04, 2024 at 02:04:16PM -0400, Vittorio Giovara wrote:
> > On Sat, May 4, 2024 at 9:06 AM Ondřej Fiala wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat May 4, 2024 at 3:11 AM CEST, flow gg wrote:
> > > > I have tried git-send-email, but it failed.
On Sat, May 04, 2024 at 02:04:16PM -0400, Vittorio Giovara wrote:
> On Sat, May 4, 2024 at 9:06 AM Ondřej Fiala wrote:
>
> > On Sat May 4, 2024 at 3:11 AM CEST, flow gg wrote:
> > > I have tried git-send-email, but it failed. You can say that I am stupid,
> > > but I would say that this is
On Sat, May 04, 2024 at 09:11:12AM +0800, flow gg wrote:
> I saw about comparing emails and gitlab/hub .., I did not comprehensively
> understand their advantages and disadvantages, but I want to say that I
> support it to change to gitlab/hub
>
> Simple reason:
>
> If you need to use
On Sat, May 4, 2024 at 9:06 AM Ondřej Fiala wrote:
> On Sat May 4, 2024 at 3:11 AM CEST, flow gg wrote:
> > I have tried git-send-email, but it failed. You can say that I am stupid,
> > but I would say that this is because of various reasons such as my area
> and
> > the network. It is really
On Sat May 4, 2024 at 3:11 AM CEST, flow gg wrote:
> I have tried git-send-email, but it failed. You can say that I am stupid,
> but I would say that this is because of various reasons such as my area and
> the network. It is really not what I can solve.
> Maybe I will spend a lot of energy trying
On Fri May 3, 2024 at 7:45 PM CEST, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
> Le perjantaina 3. toukokuuta 2024, 20.30.16 EEST Ondřej Fiala a écrit :
> > > You can't expect the whole community to accomodate your unwillingness to
> > > run a web browser or update a ridiculous underprovisioned computer
> > >
I saw about comparing emails and gitlab/hub .., I did not comprehensively
understand their advantages and disadvantages, but I want to say that I
support it to change to gitlab/hub
Simple reason:
If you need to use git-send-email, I may not be able to submit any code
If you do not need to use
Le perjantaina 3. toukokuuta 2024, 20.30.16 EEST Ondřej Fiala a écrit :
> > You can't expect the whole community to accomodate your unwillingness to
> > run a web browser or update a ridiculous underprovisioned computer
> > system.
> There is a huge difference between running a web browser and
On Fri May 3, 2024 at 4:41 PM CEST, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
> Le perjantaina 3. toukokuuta 2024, 15.58.50 EEST Ondřej Fiala a écrit :
> > > And in the end, I could be wrong, but I haven't seen you doing much code
> > > review here. This is all about optimising the workflow for people doing
> >
> On May 3, 2024, at 6:54 AM, Ronald S. Bultje wrote:
>
> On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 7:33 AM Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
>
>>
>> There is no technical plan how that would actually work in practice, and I
>> don't think it is even feasible. Not to speak of a realistic plan who would
>> actually
Le perjantaina 3. toukokuuta 2024, 15.58.50 EEST Ondřej Fiala a écrit :
> > And in the end, I could be wrong, but I haven't seen you doing much code
> > review here. This is all about optimising the workflow for people doing
> > code reviews and code merges, so why do you even care?
>
> Because
Le perjantaina 3. toukokuuta 2024, 16.54.14 EEST Ronald S. Bultje a écrit :
> To clarify: I myself much prefer gitlab's workflow and would use that if it
> was available. I think providing a CLI-based workflow (which Anton and some
> others have requested) is feasible and fair. If an email variant
Hi,
On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 7:33 AM Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
>
>
> Le 3 mai 2024 14:28:59 GMT+03:00, "Ronald S. Bultje"
> a écrit :
> >Hi,
> >
> >On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 1:53 AM Rémi Denis-Courmont
> wrote:
> >
> >> Le 2 mai 2024 21:38:13 GMT+03:00, "Ronald S. Bultje" <
> rsbul...@gmail.com>
Le 3 mai 2024 15:58:50 GMT+03:00, "Ondřej Fiala" a écrit :
>On Fri May 3, 2024 at 7:46 AM CEST, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
>> Le 2 mai 2024 22:32:16 GMT+03:00, "Ondřej Fiala" a écrit
>> :
>> >On Thu May 2, 2024 at 4:38 PM CEST, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
>> >> Le torstaina 2. toukokuuta 2024,
On Fri May 3, 2024 at 7:46 AM CEST, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
> > Since the Web and web
> >browsers weren't meant for performing code review either.
>
> I was obviously and explicitly talking about Github and Gitlab web
> applications, not the browsers. You're being ridiculous.
By the way,
On Thu May 2, 2024 at 10:06 PM CEST, epirat07 wrote:
> On 2 May 2024, at 21:32, Ondřej Fiala wrote:
> > Of course, the quality of your toolings matters a lot. If your email client
> > can't pipe a bunch of emails to a shell command, it's not fit for being used
> > to review git patches. On the
On Fri May 3, 2024 at 7:46 AM CEST, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
> Le 2 mai 2024 22:32:16 GMT+03:00, "Ondřej Fiala" a écrit :
> >On Thu May 2, 2024 at 4:38 PM CEST, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
> >> Le torstaina 2. toukokuuta 2024, 17.25.06 EEST Ondřej Fiala a écrit :
> >> > On Wed May 1, 2024 at
Le 3 mai 2024 14:28:59 GMT+03:00, "Ronald S. Bultje" a
écrit :
>Hi,
>
>On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 1:53 AM Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
>
>> Le 2 mai 2024 21:38:13 GMT+03:00, "Ronald S. Bultje"
>> a écrit :
>> >On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 1:44 PM Vittorio Giovara <
>> vittorio.giov...@gmail.com>
>>
Hi,
On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 1:53 AM Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
> Le 2 mai 2024 21:38:13 GMT+03:00, "Ronald S. Bultje"
> a écrit :
> >On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 1:44 PM Vittorio Giovara <
> vittorio.giov...@gmail.com>
> >wrote:
> >> I believe the path forward would be designing a system that can
>
Le 2 mai 2024 21:38:13 GMT+03:00, "Ronald S. Bultje" a
écrit :
>Hi,
>
>On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 1:44 PM Vittorio Giovara
>wrote:
>
>> I believe the path forward would be designing a system that can accommodate
>> both workflows
>>
>
>I agree with this.
I vehemently disagree with this.
Unless
Le 2 mai 2024 22:32:16 GMT+03:00, "Ondřej Fiala" a écrit :
>On Thu May 2, 2024 at 4:38 PM CEST, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
>> Le torstaina 2. toukokuuta 2024, 17.25.06 EEST Ondřej Fiala a écrit :
>> > On Wed May 1, 2024 at 7:27 AM CEST, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
>> > > I don't use Gmail, and
On 2 May 2024, at 21:32, Ondřej Fiala wrote:
> On Thu May 2, 2024 at 4:38 PM CEST, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
>> Le torstaina 2. toukokuuta 2024, 17.25.06 EEST Ondřej Fiala a écrit :
>>> On Wed May 1, 2024 at 7:27 AM CEST, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
I don't use Gmail, and using email for
On Thu May 2, 2024 at 7:44 PM CEST, Vittorio Giovara wrote:
> On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 10:35 AM Ondřej Fiala wrote:
> > > [...]
> > You will get similar selection bias anywhere else. Even if you handled
> > such a conversation on a discussion site, the technology powering such
> > site will
On Thu May 2, 2024 at 4:38 PM CEST, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
> Le torstaina 2. toukokuuta 2024, 17.25.06 EEST Ondřej Fiala a écrit :
> > On Wed May 1, 2024 at 7:27 AM CEST, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
> > > I don't use Gmail, and using email for review still sucks. No matter how
> > > you slice
Hi,
On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 1:44 PM Vittorio Giovara
wrote:
> I believe the path forward would be designing a system that can accommodate
> both workflows
>
I agree with this.
Ronald
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On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 10:35 AM Ondřej Fiala wrote:
> On Thu May 2, 2024 at 4:20 PM CEST, Kieran Kunhya wrote:
> > > [...]
> > I feel it's a huge selection bias to have arguments about Gitlab vs
> Mailing
> > list handled on a mailing list.
> >
> > [...]
> You will get similar selection bias
> On May 2, 2024, at 9:35 AM, Zhao Zhili wrote:
>
> I know a developer which have contributed to FFmpeg and stop doing so after
> losing his git-send-email environment.
I'm not surprised, getting git-send-email to work can be fairly daunting.
First you have to know enough about secure SMTP to
> -Original Message-
> From: ffmpeg-devel On Behalf Of Ondřej Fiala
> Sent: 2024年5月2日 22:25
> To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches
> Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] 5 year plan & Inovation
>
> On Wed May 1, 2024 at 7:27 AM CEST, Rémi Denis-Courmo
Le torstaina 2. toukokuuta 2024, 17.25.06 EEST Ondřej Fiala a écrit :
> On Wed May 1, 2024 at 7:27 AM CEST, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
> > Le 30 avril 2024 22:15:10 GMT+03:00, "Ondřej Fiala" a
écrit :
> > >On Tue Apr 30, 2024 at 9:06 PM CEST, Hendrik Leppkes wrote:
> > >> I will take the
On Thu May 2, 2024 at 4:20 PM CEST, Kieran Kunhya wrote:
> > [...]
> I feel it's a huge selection bias to have arguments about Gitlab vs Mailing
> list handled on a mailing list.
>
> [...]
You will get similar selection bias anywhere else. Even if you handled
such a conversation on a discussion
On Wed May 1, 2024 at 7:27 AM CEST, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
> Le 30 avril 2024 22:15:10 GMT+03:00, "Ondřej Fiala" a
> écrit :
> >On Tue Apr 30, 2024 at 9:06 PM CEST, Hendrik Leppkes wrote:
> >> I will take the replacement instead, thanks. Email is archaic. The
> >> entire point is to get away
Sent from my mobile device
On Thu, 2 May 2024, 15:54 Ondřej Fiala, wrote:
> On Wed May 1, 2024 at 1:01 AM CEST, Andrew Sayers wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 09:05:05PM +0200, Ondřej Fiala wrote:
> > > [...]
> >
> > IMHO, GitHub have improved that user experience significantly in recent
>
On Wed May 1, 2024 at 1:01 AM CEST, Andrew Sayers wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 09:05:05PM +0200, Ondřej Fiala wrote:
> > [...]
>
> IMHO, GitHub have improved that user experience significantly in recent years.
> Yes you're still making a fork and pushing it, but the experience is more like
>
Hi,
Le 30 avril 2024 22:15:10 GMT+03:00, "Ondřej Fiala" a écrit
:
>On Tue Apr 30, 2024 at 9:06 PM CEST, Hendrik Leppkes wrote:
>> I will take the replacement instead, thanks. Email is archaic. The
>> entire point is to get away from email, not dress it up.
>> SourceHut usage would likely make
On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 09:05:05PM +0200, Ondřej Fiala wrote:
> On Mon Apr 29, 2024 at 9:04 PM CEST, Davy Durham wrote:
> > Presently do you not have to create an account on the devel mailing list to
> > contribute to ffmpeg?
> >
> > So on the flip side, I (actually) find it just as annoying to
On Tue Apr 30, 2024 at 9:06 PM CEST, Hendrik Leppkes wrote:
> I will take the replacement instead, thanks. Email is archaic. The
> entire point is to get away from email, not dress it up.
> SourceHut usage would likely make me even less interested then today.
>
> - Hendrik
I guess that depends on
On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 8:49 PM Ondřej Fiala wrote:
>
> On Tue Apr 30, 2024 at 2:11 AM CEST, Hendrik Leppkes wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 29, 2024 at 6:44 PM Ondřej Fiala wrote:
> > >
> > > I would really suggest you look at SourceHut.
> >
> > While SourceHut might be a slight improvement over the
On Mon Apr 29, 2024 at 9:04 PM CEST, Davy Durham wrote:
> Presently do you not have to create an account on the devel mailing list to
> contribute to ffmpeg?
>
> So on the flip side, I (actually) find it just as annoying to have to
> create such accounts at every project rather than my having one
On Tue Apr 30, 2024 at 2:11 AM CEST, Hendrik Leppkes wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2024 at 6:44 PM Ondřej Fiala wrote:
> >
> > I would really suggest you look at SourceHut.
>
> While SourceHut might be a slight improvement over the current
> situation (and only slight), it being fundamentally still
On Sat, Apr 27, 2024 at 08:01:14PM +0200, Tomas Härdin wrote:
> lör 2024-04-27 klockan 12:53 +0200 skrev Michael Niedermayer:
> > On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 12:26:00PM +0200, Tomas Härdin wrote:
> > > tor 2024-04-25 klockan 02:07 +0200 skrev Michael Niedermayer:
> > > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at
On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 01:32:27PM +0200, Lynne wrote:
> Apr 22, 2024, 13:07 by stefa...@gmail.com:
>
> > On date Sunday 2024-04-21 22:12:56 -0300, James Almer wrote:
> >
> >> On 4/17/2024 10:58 AM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> >>
> > [...]
> >
> >> A full rewrite of ffserver, using only public
On Mon, Apr 29, 2024 at 6:44 PM Ondřej Fiala wrote:
>
> I would really suggest you look at SourceHut.
While SourceHut might be a slight improvement over the current
situation (and only slight), it being fundamentally still based on
email makes it inherit a lot of limitations and problems, and
Le maanantaina 29. huhtikuuta 2024, 22.04.00 EEST Davy Durham a écrit :
> Presently do you not have to create an account on the devel mailing list to
> contribute to ffmpeg?
Yes, but subscribing to a mailing list is much easier than creating a Gitlab
account (especially if 2FA is needed), and
Presently do you not have to create an account on the devel mailing list to
contribute to ffmpeg?
So on the flip side, I (actually) find it just as annoying to have to
create such accounts at every project rather than my having one account at
GitHub (or a relatively few for other hosting sites)
On Mon Apr 29, 2024 at 6:37 PM CEST, Ondřej Fiala wrote:
> $ git format-patch master
> $ git send-email ~username/project-de...@lists.sr.ht
Should have checked what I'm writing. The second line should be
$ git send-email --to ~username/project-de...@lists.sr.ht *.patch
Oops.
On Mon Apr 29, 2024 at 8:03 AM CEST, Davy Durham wrote:
> On 4/19/24 09:50, Niklas Haas wrote:
> +1 from me too. Please oh, please oh, /please/ modernize the patch
> management. I don't know what the opposition/inability to use github is
> all about. But gitlab should be a great improvement
On 4/19/24 09:50, Niklas Haas wrote:
So, rather than all of the above, what I think we should do is contract
somebody to set up, manage, host and maintain a GitLab instance for us.
This would probably be the single most cost effective boost to both
community growth and innovation I can think
On Sat Apr 27, 2024 at 12:24 PM CEST, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> A phone originally was a tool to call and talk to someone, to be reachable by
> voice communication.
> Its not a tool to write letters, until it was
> Its not a tool to browse the internet until it was
> Its not an assitent you
lör 2024-04-27 klockan 12:53 +0200 skrev Michael Niedermayer:
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 12:26:00PM +0200, Tomas Härdin wrote:
> > tor 2024-04-25 klockan 02:07 +0200 skrev Michael Niedermayer:
> > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 12:50:02AM +0200, Tomas Härdin wrote:
> > > > ons 2024-04-17 klockan 15:58
On Sat, Apr 27, 2024 at 6:24 AM Michael Niedermayer
wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 08:15:27AM -0700, Vittorio Giovara wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 3:00 PM Michael Niedermayer <
> mich...@niedermayer.cc>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > > Microsoft expanded into new fields with Xbox and Azure, yes.
On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 12:26:00PM +0200, Tomas Härdin wrote:
> tor 2024-04-25 klockan 02:07 +0200 skrev Michael Niedermayer:
> > On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 12:50:02AM +0200, Tomas Härdin wrote:
> > > ons 2024-04-17 klockan 15:58 +0200 skrev Michael Niedermayer:
> > >
> > > > * ffchat
> > > >
On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 08:15:27AM -0700, Vittorio Giovara wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 3:00 PM Michael Niedermayer
> wrote:
>
> > > Microsoft expanded into new fields with Xbox and Azure, yes. But Windows
> > is still an OS, and Office is still a (un)productivity suite.
> > >
> > >
On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 3:00 PM Michael Niedermayer
wrote:
> > Microsoft expanded into new fields with Xbox and Azure, yes. But Windows
> is still an OS, and Office is still a (un)productivity suite.
> >
> > Accordingly, maybe you can innovate with a new project within the same
> legal entity as
tor 2024-04-25 klockan 02:07 +0200 skrev Michael Niedermayer:
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 12:50:02AM +0200, Tomas Härdin wrote:
> > ons 2024-04-17 klockan 15:58 +0200 skrev Michael Niedermayer:
> >
> > > * ffchat
> > > (expand into realtime chat / zoom) this would
> > > bring in more users
t; From: ffmpeg-devel On Behalf Of
> > > Niklas Haas
> > > > Sent: 2024年4月19日 22:50
> > > > To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches
> > > > Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] 5 year plan & Inovation
> > > >
> > > > On T
On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 12:50:02AM +0200, Tomas Härdin wrote:
> ons 2024-04-17 klockan 15:58 +0200 skrev Michael Niedermayer:
>
> > * ffchat
> > (expand into realtime chat / zoom) this would
> > bring in more users and developers, and we basically have almost
> > all parts for it
On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 12:50 AM Tomas Härdin wrote:
> A large long term project that would help immensely with security is
> moving to a proper parsing framework, rather than the present shotgun
> parsing approach. But this might be such a large undertaking that it's
> better to start from
ons 2024-04-17 klockan 15:58 +0200 skrev Michael Niedermayer:
> * ffchat
> (expand into realtime chat / zoom) this would
> bring in more users and developers, and we basically have almost
> all parts for it already but some people where against it
You mean inventing a new chat
On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 03:12:59PM +0300, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
>
>
> Le 21 avril 2024 23:40:08 GMT+03:00, Michael Niedermayer
> a écrit :
> >On Sun, Apr 21, 2024 at 05:11:36PM +0800, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Le 17 avril 2024 21:58:32 GMT+08:00, Michael Niedermayer
>
Le 21 avril 2024 23:40:08 GMT+03:00, Michael Niedermayer
a écrit :
>On Sun, Apr 21, 2024 at 05:11:36PM +0800, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
>>
>>
>> Le 17 avril 2024 21:58:32 GMT+08:00, Michael Niedermayer
>> a écrit :
>> >Hi all
>> >
>> >The pace of inovation in FFmpeg has been slowing down.
On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 10:02:58AM +0200, Lynne wrote:
> Apr 23, 2024, 09:47 by ffmpeg-de...@pileofstuff.org:
>
> > On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 02:20:51AM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 10:46:35AM +0200, Stefano Sabatini wrote:
> >> > On date Wednesday 2024-04-17
Apr 23, 2024, 09:47 by ffmpeg-de...@pileofstuff.org:
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 02:20:51AM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 10:46:35AM +0200, Stefano Sabatini wrote:
>> > On date Wednesday 2024-04-17 15:58:32 +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
>> > > Hi all
>> > >
>>
On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 02:20:51AM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 10:46:35AM +0200, Stefano Sabatini wrote:
> > On date Wednesday 2024-04-17 15:58:32 +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > > Hi all
> > >
> > > The pace of inovation in FFmpeg has been slowing down.
> >
On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 10:46:35AM +0200, Stefano Sabatini wrote:
> On date Wednesday 2024-04-17 15:58:32 +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > Hi all
> >
> > The pace of inovation in FFmpeg has been slowing down.
> > Most work is concentarted nowadays on code refactoring, and adding
> > support
Apr 22, 2024, 13:07 by stefa...@gmail.com:
> On date Sunday 2024-04-21 22:12:56 -0300, James Almer wrote:
>
>> On 4/17/2024 10:58 AM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
>>
> [...]
>
>> A full rewrite of ffserver, using only public API, and with modern streaming
>> in mind. It would give a lot of code in
On date Sunday 2024-04-21 22:12:56 -0300, James Almer wrote:
> On 4/17/2024 10:58 AM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
[...]
> A full rewrite of ffserver, using only public API, and with modern streaming
> in mind. It would give a lot of code in lavf some use.
If this is going to happen, my advice is
On 4/17/2024 10:58 AM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
Hi all
The pace of inovation in FFmpeg has been slowing down.
Most work is concentarted nowadays on code refactoring, and adding
support for new codecs and formats.
Should we
* make a list of longer term goals
* vote on them
* and then together
On Sun, Apr 21, 2024 at 05:11:36PM +0800, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
>
>
> Le 17 avril 2024 21:58:32 GMT+08:00, Michael Niedermayer
> a écrit :
> >Hi all
> >
> >The pace of inovation in FFmpeg has been slowing down.
> >Most work is concentarted nowadays on code refactoring, and adding
>
On Fri Apr 19, 2024 at 12:45 AM CEST, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> a small change to trac is easy to do and easy to undo, if it helps,
> iam not sure a switch to GitLab/Gitea/Forgejo will happen, or even if it is a
> good idea.
>
> we lack people with time and interrest to review and apply
Le 17 avril 2024 21:58:32 GMT+08:00, Michael Niedermayer
a écrit :
>Hi all
>
>The pace of inovation in FFmpeg has been slowing down.
>Most work is concentarted nowadays on code refactoring, and adding
>support for new codecs and formats.
OSS projects of age similar to FFmpeg are either mature
t; > To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches
> > > Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] 5 year plan & Inovation
> > >
> > > On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 22:53:51 +0200 Michael Niedermayer <
> > mich...@niedermayer.cc> wrote:
> > > > A plugin syst
On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 11:01:42PM +0100, Andrew Sayers wrote:
> On 18/04/2024 20:50, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
>
> > [...]
> > > Without getting too far off-topic, I would also be interested in knowing
> > > how
> > > docs are actually generated in practice. I've tried generating
> > >
On Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 12:31 AM James Almer wrote:
> On 4/19/2024 7:28 PM, Paul B Mahol wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 11:58 PM Vittorio Giovara <
> > vittorio.giov...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 12:48 PM Ronald S. Bultje
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> On
Hi,
On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 5:58 PM Vittorio Giovara
wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 12:48 PM Ronald S. Bultje
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 2:06 PM Vittorio Giovara <
> > vittorio.giov...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 11:00 AM Diederick C.
On 4/19/2024 7:28 PM, Paul B Mahol wrote:
On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 11:58 PM Vittorio Giovara <
vittorio.giov...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 12:48 PM Ronald S. Bultje
wrote:
Hi,
On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 2:06 PM Vittorio Giovara <
vittorio.giov...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Fri, Apr
On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 11:58 PM Vittorio Giovara <
vittorio.giov...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 12:48 PM Ronald S. Bultje
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 2:06 PM Vittorio Giovara <
> > vittorio.giov...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at
On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 12:48 PM Ronald S. Bultje
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 2:06 PM Vittorio Giovara <
> vittorio.giov...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 11:00 AM Diederick C. Niehorster <
> > dcni...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > If i recall correctly, there
On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 9:45 PM James Almer wrote:
> On 4/19/2024 4:05 PM, Paul B Mahol wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 8:06 PM Vittorio Giovara <
> vittorio.giov...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 11:00 AM Diederick C. Niehorster <
> >> dcni...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
Hi,
On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 2:06 PM Vittorio Giovara
wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 11:00 AM Diederick C. Niehorster <
> dcni...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > If i recall correctly, there was a conversation not too long ago about
> what
> > to do with all the SPI money. This seems to be a perfect
On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 8:06 PM Vittorio Giovara
wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 11:00 AM Diederick C. Niehorster <
> dcni...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > If i recall correctly, there was a conversation not too long ago about
> what
> > to do with all the SPI money. This seems to be a perfect use
On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 11:00 AM Diederick C. Niehorster
wrote:
> If i recall correctly, there was a conversation not too long ago about what
> to do with all the SPI money. This seems to be a perfect use for it.
> 1. Set up and manage a gitlab instance
> 2. Move tickets from trac to there
On Fri, Apr 19, 2024, 19:35 Zhao Zhili wrote:
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: ffmpeg-devel On Behalf Of
> Niklas Haas
> > Sent: 2024年4月19日 22:50
> > To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches
> > Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] 5 year pla
> -Original Message-
> From: ffmpeg-devel On Behalf Of Niklas Haas
> Sent: 2024年4月19日 22:50
> To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches
> Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] 5 year plan & Inovation
>
> On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 22:53:51 +0200 Michael Niedermaye
On 19 Apr 2024, at 16:50, Niklas Haas wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 22:53:51 +0200 Michael Niedermayer
> wrote:
>> A plugin system moves this patch-management to people who actually
>> care, that is the authors of the codecs and (de)muxers.
>
> A plugin system will only solve this insomuch as
On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 22:53:51 +0200 Michael Niedermayer
wrote:
> A plugin system moves this patch-management to people who actually
> care, that is the authors of the codecs and (de)muxers.
A plugin system will only solve this insomuch as plugin authors will
just host their plugin code on GitHub
On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 1:19 AM Michael Niedermayer
wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 06:13:40PM -0300, James Almer wrote:
> > On 4/18/2024 5:53 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 04:02:07PM +0200, Niklas Haas wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 15:58:32 +0200 Michael
On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 06:13:40PM -0300, James Almer wrote:
> On 4/18/2024 5:53 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 04:02:07PM +0200, Niklas Haas wrote:
> > > On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 15:58:32 +0200 Michael Niedermayer
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hi all
> > > >
> > > > The pace of
On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 11:15:48PM +0200, epira...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
> On 18 Apr 2024, at 22:15, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 10:19:50AM +0200, Stefano Sabatini wrote:
> >> On date Wednesday 2024-04-17 19:21:39 -0700, Aidan wrote:
> >>> The best option is to
On 18/04/2024 20:50, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
[...]
Without getting too far off-topic, I would also be interested in knowing how
docs are actually generated in practice. I've tried generating documentation
its just running doxygen with a Doxyfile
the Doxyfile is not doc/Doxyfile from git
On 18 Apr 2024, at 22:15, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 10:19:50AM +0200, Stefano Sabatini wrote:
>> On date Wednesday 2024-04-17 19:21:39 -0700, Aidan wrote:
>>> The best option is to figure stuff out.
>> [...]
>>> I use FFmpeg to download HLS streams from the internet
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