Re: [Finale] OT: old Mac disks

2004-04-20 Thread Mark D Lew
On Apr 19, 2004, at 8:01 AM, Phil Daley wrote: Or just transfer them to PC Format disks, Macs with superdrives (pretty much any Mac after the SE) can format and write PC disks. And newer Macs can read the old 800K disks? My recently defunct Mac could read both PC disks and old 800K Mac disks.

Re: [Finale] More about blank notation

2004-04-20 Thread Mark D Lew
On Apr 20, 2004, at 3:15 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: The workaround here is very easy, though (putting in an explicit rest), but it could be a pain if you have to do it for a number of measures (though hiding other layers and copying could get it done pretty quicly). Even quicker is the

Re: [Finale] Re: FinMac2004

2004-04-17 Thread Mark D Lew
On Apr 17, 2004, at 2:21 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Also, some people -- like Mark Lew -- are particular about the distance between staves -- when they increase or decrease the distance between staves, they always do so by multiples of one staff space, e.g., 24 EVPUs. It's not possible to

Re: [Finale] Re: FinMac2004

2004-04-17 Thread Mark D Lew
On Apr 17, 2004, at 6:03 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: I guess I'll have to recreate my preferences again. I *hate* doing that. I just hope the problem doesn't keep coming back. Do you have to recreate ALL of them? Funny, I'm sloppy about backing up other things, but I make frequent backup

Re: [Finale] Re: FinMac2004 (going OT)

2004-04-17 Thread Mark D Lew
On Apr 17, 2004, at 5:36 AM, Javier Ruiz wrote: Ha! that´s a word that I don´t think exists in Spanish. And we need it, yeah... Darcy wrote (among other things): innumeracy It's a recently coined word, and it probably hasn't arrived in most dictionaries yet. About five years ago, someone wrote

Re: [Finale] MacFin2002b Feedback

2004-04-16 Thread Mark D Lew
On Apr 16, 2004, at 10:25 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: Well, strangely enough, I liked the old way Finale copied music -- it copied clef changes by default (I'm talking about the COPY EVERYTHING situation). [...] For me, the old way was far preferable, because I copy horizontally a lot more often

Re: [Finale] Fermata Or Not?

2004-04-15 Thread Mark D Lew
On Apr 15, 2004, at 1:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope I don't show my ignorance here, but I am working on a composition in which the composer used a symbol that looks like a fermata, but with 3 dots underneath.  I am interpreting this as a fermata, am I correct?  Or is it something

Re: [Finale] Enter key, undo shortcut bugs in MacFin2004

2004-04-15 Thread Mark D Lew
On Apr 15, 2004, at 2:42 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: I get the feeling most people on this list are steering well clear of MacFin2004. I probably should as well, but it's like when you force yourself to sit through a bad movie you've rented -- I've been anticipating it for years, I paid good

Re: [Finale] syllabification

2004-04-11 Thread Mark D Lew
On Apr 11, 2004, at 1:10 PM, John Howell wrote: I should also point out that Mark's suggestion makes reading the words much quicker and intuitive. But of course a singer isn't going to actually pronounce them that way. Tacking the consonant onto the 2nd syllable is good vocal practice:

Re: [Finale] syllabification

2004-04-11 Thread Mark D Lew
On Apr 11, 2004, at 4:27 PM, John Howell wrote: Hey, read my message again. We're on the same side, here! I was simply making the point that there are different criteria for printing than for singing. Non-singers may not know that. And singers often get hung up trying to write down the

Re: [Finale] syllabification

2004-04-10 Thread Mark D Lew
On Apr 10, 2004, at 4:53 PM, Ryan Beard wrote: I'm working on a choir piece based on Psalm 23. I'm having trouble finding the correct syllabification of some of the King James English words like maketh, leadeth, restoreth, preparest all those -eth -est words. The dictionaries I have don't

Re: [Finale] MAJOR FILESAVE BUG in Finale 2004

2004-04-06 Thread Mark D Lew
On Apr 6, 2004, at 3:01 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Specifically, what happened was I quit Finale 2004 when several files were open. Normally, Finale would have asked me if I wanted to review unsaved changes, but this time it didn't. And Finale also decided to overwrite one of the open

Re: [Finale] Dolet Light versus Full

2004-04-06 Thread Mark D Lew
On Apr 6, 2004, at 5:04 PM, Richard Yates wrote: This did not help much. It does not describe differences between light and full version. Maybe I should be more specific. For instance: snip After a long period of deserved skepticism about music scanning technology in genereal I am willing (and

Re: [Finale] File Crashes My Finale Reliably

2004-04-05 Thread Mark D Lew
On Apr 4, 2004, at 6:13 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: New development: I tried deleting everything in the first two movements, and when you get to the same measure, Finale dies. So, it has nothing to do with the length of the file, and everything to do with something in that particular measure. If

Re: [Finale] TAN: Rave Act protest scheduled

2004-04-02 Thread Mark D Lew
On Apr 2, 2004, at 11:40 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: The RAVE act is absolutely not an urban legend. Go to the ACLU's web page to find out more. The Republicans have been trying to pass this for years, and they finally got it by appending it to the AMBER alert bill (otherwise known as the

Re: [Finale] time signature change

2004-04-02 Thread Mark D Lew
On Apr 2, 2004, at 1:44 PM, Bob Florence wrote: This section is for 4 trombones. Trombone 1 plays 6 bars. He repeats his phrase and is joined by trombone 2. They continue their 6 bars and are joined by trombone 3. They continue and are joined by trombone 4. This is a total of 24 bars. I added

Re: [Finale] TAN: Rave Act protest scheduled

2004-04-02 Thread Mark D Lew
On Apr 2, 2004, at 2:08 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Joe Lieberman is not really a Democrat. Touché But this is not a political list, so we should probably not go any further with this. . . Good point. I'll resist the urge to follow-up on Darcy's post. Either that or we can take it elsewhere.

Re: [Finale] Time Signature question

2004-04-01 Thread Mark D Lew
On Apr 1, 2004, at 10:56 AM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: Assuming Ken hasn't started yet, he could create a blank score of N measures, set up the first two with the changing signatures and correct barlines (dashed if needed), dragdrop the 2-measure pattern forward N-1 times, then highlight hide

Re: [Finale] Sibelius survey

2004-03-31 Thread Mark D Lew
On Mar 31, 2004, at 12:48 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: That's all true, of course, but I think the weird thing is the whole idea of applying an NDA to a survey, especially one that involves questions about a *competitor* product. Beta testers, sure, as it's pre-release software. But a survey?

Re: [Finale] Sibelius survey

2004-03-31 Thread Mark D Lew
On Mar 31, 2004, at 12:29 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: This kind of NDA (non-disclosure agreement) is very common -- I imagine the same sort of restrictions apply to Finale beta testers, for instance. It stands to reason that if they're paying people to collect this information, they want to

Re: Plugin index, was: Re: [Finale] Split Points in Imported

2004-03-31 Thread Mark D Lew
I'm no expert on this stuff, but it seems to me that this could be a job for scripts. Surely a script has the capability to call up any item on the menu, right? If so, then you could make a very simple script for every plug-in you use. Then you could name and arrange those scripts however

[Finale] Sibelius survey

2004-03-30 Thread Mark D Lew
Did others on the group receive the email from a guy at Sibelius, inviting them to participate in a survey to discuss in a telephone interview how they use notation software? I was especially intrigued by this sentence: Because of the nature of this endeavour, if you would like to help us, we

Re: [Finale] Another Music Spacing Issue

2004-03-28 Thread Mark D Lew
On Mar 27, 2004, at 3:28 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Yes, apparently. But it's spotting *something* and I don't quite understand why it thinks what it's seeing is the right thing to do -- I can't conceive of circumstances where the spacing it provides would ever be correct, accidentals or dots

Re: [Finale] Another Music Spacing Issue

2004-03-28 Thread Mark D Lew
On Mar 27, 2004, at 5:38 PM, Mark D Lew wrote: An example where this makes sense is not common, but not inconceivable either. Imagine that [...] Reviewing this, I see I'm overthinking it. A more common situation is this: In the RH piano, the upstem voice is following the melody

Re: [Finale] Another Music Spacing Issue

2004-03-27 Thread Mark D Lew
On Mar 26, 2004, at 12:36 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Here's the problem: If layer 2 is a chord instead of a single note, the spacing is completely wrong -- the layer 1 note is spaced by itself and the layer 2 chord is spaced way out to the right, as though the two didn't occur in the same metric

extra lyric hyphens (was Re: [Finale] Grace Notes)

2004-03-27 Thread Mark D Lew
On Mar 26, 2004, at 8:27 AM, George Ports wrote: Had a problem with text.Can't seem to eliminate some hyphens (- - - - -) that appeared in a couple of measures. It is sorta hard to explain but, they are from typing in text, I'm sure. Hope I don't have to re-do the measures all over

Re: [Finale] Word Extensions_____what gives?

2004-03-25 Thread Mark D Lew
On Mar 24, 2004, at 10:41 AM, Randolph Peters wrote: I'm seeking the collective wisdom of this list. Shouldn't word extensions only apply to moving notes and not to tied ones? It seems as if the word extension plugins (both Finale's and TGTools) on FinMac 2k3 are spotty and inconsistent AND

Re: [Finale] Re: New Time Sig Metatools

2004-03-23 Thread Mark D Lew
On Mar 23, 2004, at 9:34 AM, Clay Zambo wrote: Now with the metatools, with time signature tool selected you hold a metatool key and click a measure, and the new signature is popped right in. Wow! Now I _really_ can't wait for the os9 version! It works on Fin Mac 2k2, as I described in an

Re: [Finale] New time sig metatools

2004-03-22 Thread Mark D Lew
On Mar 22, 2004, at 5:52 AM, David Froom wrote: I just discovered the time signature metatools, Are they new to Fin 2004? Wow. I just tried this in Fin Mac 2k2 and it works there, too. It's slightly different from what you describe, though. Possibly it's just my own template, but I found

Re: [Finale] Italian

2004-03-19 Thread Mark D Lew
On Mar 19, 2004, at 9:19 AM, Andrew Stiller wrote: Mozart asks the singers to sing -o e il on a single note. The note is a long one, but you will never hear a singer divide it in three; rather, it usually comes out Quest' e 'l fin or Questw'il fin You're right that it usually comes out as one

Re: [Finale] No one has advice on spacing with blank notation?

2004-03-18 Thread Mark D Lew
On Mar 18, 2004, at 7:40 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: EDUs make me crazy (the man behind the curtain is exposed), but I can deal with them. EDUs don't bother me much, and sometimes I even like them. Even so, I think it would make a lot of sense if Finale allowed for use of any of its units in

Re: [Finale] Spacing with blank notation in Layer 1

2004-03-18 Thread Mark D Lew
On Mar 18, 2004, at 7:44 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: Now, can we get a rundown of which versions exhibit the problem? It looks like it's still there in Finale2K4, if Johannes is seeing it. I think somebody had Finale2K2 and said the problem was there? Can anyone confirm this? In FinMac 2k2 blank

Re: [Finale] Spacing with blank notation in Layer 1

2004-03-18 Thread Mark D Lew
On Mar 18, 2004, at 10:38 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: Well, you can tell by starting with it unspaced, check for beat chart, then space using metatool 4. If there's a beat chart then and it includes handles for the hidden note values, then it's doing what Johannes said (so far as I understand

Re: [Finale] Italian

2004-03-18 Thread Mark D Lew
On Mar 18, 2004, at 2:16 PM, John Howell wrote: I believe that each vowel gets its own note, unlike languages like English which are full of diphthongs and triphthons. You often find bisyllabic Italian words on a single note, and the singer has to know to divide the note in 2. Perhaps it's

Re: [Finale] No one has advice on spacing with blank notation?

2004-03-17 Thread Mark D Lew
On Mar 16, 2004, at 1:37 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Well, don't hesitate to tell us, as I may be ignoring something obvious. What I've been doing is spacing with with time-signature- based spacing, then adding the handles necessary to manually space. It's not horribly difficult, but the big

Re: [Finale] Cross staff notes and artics

2004-03-17 Thread Mark D Lew
On Mar 16, 2004, at 3:39 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote: I have a piano staff with notes entered in the treble staff and some of them dragged down to the bass staff. I find I am unable to get articulations positioned correctly on the cross-staff notes -- even when I drag them to where I want them,

Re: [Finale] Feature request: stack windows instead of tiling

2004-03-17 Thread Mark D Lew
On Mar 16, 2004, at 4:09 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Don't you ever do any find positioning? I believe that Coda has told us that to get absolutely accurate positioning (i.e., so that what you see onscreen is precisely what you get in printouts), you need only position at 400%. If they do say

Re: [Finale] No one has advice on spacing with blank notation?

2004-03-17 Thread Mark D Lew
On Mar 17, 2004, at 1:27 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: [answering me] I still think there's something I'm forgetting. When you run TG tremolos on a bar and it creates invisible playback notes in layer 4, those notes don't affect spacing. Why not? What is TG changing that we could change manually?

Re: [Finale] No one has advice on spacing with blank notation?

2004-03-17 Thread Mark D Lew
On Mar 17, 2004, at 10:53 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: The puzzling part for me is that others are reporting that they can't replicated it. Here's how to get it to happen: I can replicate it. I'm in Fin Mac 2k2 and my experience matches yours exactly. I too am finding that Finale always spaces

Re: [Finale] Cross staff notes and artics

2004-03-17 Thread Mark D Lew
On Mar 17, 2004, at 4:31 AM, Aaron Sherber wrote: Well, then it's gotten worse in 2004. In order to get the artic to move down, I have to drag it up, and vice versa. Now that you mention it, I remember encountering this behavior before, too. Something to do with stem directions, I think. I

Re: [Finale] No one has advice on spacing with blank notation?

2004-03-17 Thread Mark D Lew
On Mar 17, 2004, at 5:05 PM, I wrote: Try it and see. If you make a TG tremolo, then go into the playback layer and make all the notes visible, they still don't affect spacing. There must be something else about them that's different. But what is it? Aha, I found it. In the Edit Frames box,

Re: [Finale] No one has advice on spacing with blank notation?

2004-03-17 Thread Mark D Lew
On Mar 17, 2004, at 6:44 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: [answering me] . . . For classic appoggiaturas, I redefine the note lengths with the MIDI tool. . . . Can you explain that in more detail? I'm not getting what you're referring to here (I'd sure like a plugin to create on-beat appaggiaturas!).

Re: [Finale] No one has advice on spacing with blank notation?

2004-03-17 Thread Mark D Lew
On Mar 17, 2004, at 11:14 PM, Mark D Lew wrote: I assume you know how the Edit Frames box works, given your response to the other message about the Playback field there. Oops. I mean your other comment about the *Spacing* field there. Playback is the one you would change in this case. mdl

Re: [Finale] FinMac2004, MacSupport, and speed issues

2004-03-09 Thread Mark D Lew
On Mar 9, 2004, at 8:48 AM, David Froom wrote: Who knew being smart also means being slow? Anyone with experience on old, speed-challenged computers. Any feature that is constantly updating on the fly is going to slow down the program. mdl ___

Re: [Finale] Double sharps, douible flats

2004-03-08 Thread Mark D Lew
On Mar 8, 2004, at 4:22 AM, Crystal Premo wrote: Am I correct in my assumption that the double sharps and flats which frequently appear when you transpose a piece are actually the *correct pitches*? However awkward they may be, and however appropriate it may be to simplify them through

OT: Plurals (was Re: [Finale] Punctuation and Word Extensions)

2004-03-06 Thread Mark D Lew
On Mar 6, 2004, at 9:04 AM, Andrew Stiller wrote: So wave goodbye to phenomenon, bacterium, datum, criterion, medium (of communication), and doubtless others I can't think of right now. All of these were in common use 30 years ago, but are now disappearing rapidly, and I imagine they'll be

Re: [Finale] Accidentals after transposition

2004-03-06 Thread Mark D Lew
On Mar 6, 2004, at 1:51 PM, John Howell wrote: I assume that was a typo, Crystal. A minor 3rd down from Eb would be C. But choosing between C# and Db I would take Db every time. Not me. Not every time. I would tend to prefer Db, but you've got to consider the specifics of the song. Suppose

Re: [Finale] Punctuation and Word Extensions

2004-03-05 Thread Mark D Lew
On Mar 5, 2004, at 1:29 AM, Mario Aschauer wrote: Carus puts the commata etc. right next to the syllable it belongs before the word extension. That will look okay, too, I think. Wow. I've seen stigmata, dogmata, lemmata, and even melismata, but commata is new to me. I can see the logic, since

Re: [Finale] Instrumentation Description Criteria

2004-03-05 Thread Mark D Lew
I'm updating a database which contains instrumentation description and got to decide the most suitable criteria (regarding the linguistic aspect) for instrument's composite names. Which, between the following, would you find most correct: 1. Diatonic Soprano Xylophone 2.

Re: [Finale] Accidentals after transposition

2004-03-05 Thread Mark D Lew
On Mar 5, 2004, at 2:51 PM, Crystal Premo wrote: I do a lot of transpositions of Broadway and pop tunes for people to use at auditions, and I have a question about what happens with accidentals. Sometimes the new key is rife with double flats and double sharps. Is it acceptable to simplify

Re: [Finale] Punctuation and Word Extensions

2004-03-05 Thread Mark D Lew
On Mar 5, 2004, at 3:40 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Regardless of the Greek derivation, the English word is commas. See also, stadiums (not stadia), forums (not fora), one agenda, two agendas (not one agendum, two agenda), etc -- notwithstanding the odd individual who thinks himself clever

Re: [Finale] Punctuation and Word Extensions

2004-03-05 Thread Mark D Lew
On Mar 5, 2004, at 4:13 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Just to try to head this one off at the pass... I was unclear. I didn't mean to say that celli and concerti were incorrect as such, just that they are subject to the same trend towards regularization as other foreign loan-words in English,

Re: [Finale] Secondary beam problem

2004-02-29 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 28, 2004, at 7:52 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote: I may be missing something obvious, but I can't find a document setting to get Finale to do what I want, and I also can't find a tool that will let me adjust the length of secondary beams within a measure. Am I missing something? I've always

Re: [Finale] Secondary beam problem

2004-02-29 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 29, 2004, at 2:16 AM, Mr. Liudas Motekaitis wrote: Anybody know of an easier method? Well, I don't know if my method is *easier* -- they're probably about the same -- but I'm more comfortable with it. I get nervous with anything that relies on pushing an element off the edge of the

Re: [Finale] Funny message

2004-02-29 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 29, 2004, at 10:17 AM, Klaas de Jong wrote: For your information: the program itself generates the text, so I'll give the owner a hint, that people don't like the 'aggressive' content... Some of the whitelist messages I've received from others must allow the user to enter his or her own

Re: [Finale] Secondary beam problem

2004-02-29 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 29, 2004, at 5:39 AM, Aaron Sherber wrote: I worked out an interesting kludge of my own which looks great for this particular combination of rhythms; I'm not sure whether it could always be used. Excellent idea. I hadn't thought of using dots and hiding them. Your way is about as

Re: [Finale] Funny message

2004-02-29 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 29, 2004, at 11:44 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Actually, based on the response on this list (and my own personal reaction), I think it's fair to say that people don't like spam whitelists, PERIOD. I received *12* junk emails from your spamslammer telling me I needed to fill out a form

Re: [Finale] Punctuation and Word Extensions

2004-02-28 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 28, 2004, at 12:52 AM, d. collins wrote: I just tried it: there's a box to tick that says Allow punctuation marks to be placed on last note of word extension, and another box to fill in with the punctuation marks affected by this. The only problem is that it seems to have absolutely no

Re: [Finale] Punctuation and Word Extensions

2004-02-28 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 27, 2004, at 11:26 PM, d. collins wrote: Well, the logic of having the punctuation after the extension is based on the fact that the punctuation should come only once you've finished singing the syllable. Pushing that logic step further, the last consonant should come after you've

Re: [Finale] Punctuation and Word Extensions

2004-02-28 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 28, 2004, at 2:33 AM, d. collins wrote: I don't quite agree, because I see three reasons for putting it before, and none for putting it after (whereas in the example you give of quotation marks it makes no difference): - traditional practice, from what I see both in most of the scores I

Re: [Finale] Funny message

2004-02-28 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 28, 2004, at 1:54 PM, gj.berg wrote: Ahhh, I get it! It's interesting that the wording of this letter (by Mark and Ilesa I presume) actually assumes that I am a guilty spammer and my only hope for non excommunication (BLACKLISTED!!! say it ain't so!) is to prove I'm human. The moral

Re: [Finale] One More tuplet question...

2004-02-27 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 27, 2004, at 3:28 PM, Fisher, Allen wrote: Are tuplet brackets allowed to fall inside the staff? (as you can probably tell, I do very little with unbeamed tuplets...) I don't know what the authorities say, but I think a tuplet bracket within the staff lines looks horrible. I avoid it.

Re: [Finale] Punctuation and Word Extensions

2004-02-27 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 27, 2004, at 8:36 AM, d. collins wrote: I'd never noticed that the NBA did this, but you're right, I just checked. I also checked my four reference books, and all agree that this is wrong. I find it very weird to have a ; or a , after a word extension, but I'd be interested in hearing

Re: [Finale] Note duration change problem

2004-02-26 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 26, 2004, at 11:01 AM, Jamin Hoffman wrote: The problem is that any notes I entered into layer 2 do not get moved correctly. The problem seems to be with the whole rests in the measures that I didn't enter any layer 2 notes. While Finale does change the duration of the notes, it doesn't

Re: [Finale] How do I make Finale's interpretations go away?

2004-02-24 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 24, 2004, at 11:04 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: Since when are dynamics and articulations so incredibly unimportant that you wouldn't want musicians learning them *from the beginning*? Hm. On the one hand, I completely agree that dynamics should be emphasized right from the beginning. In

Re: [Finale] How do I make Finale's interpretations go away?

2004-02-23 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 23, 2004, at 8:06 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Of course, I can't quite conceive of why having dynamic marks and articulations in playback would interfere with aural proofreading, as one person said, or why you'd want to redo everything in the score from scratch in a hand-edited MIDI file,

Re: [Finale] Vertical spacing

2004-02-20 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 19, 2004, at 11:45 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: You should use TGTools. It doesn't let you drag the way you want, but it does let you enter numbers in a much more convenient way. Thanks, I'll look into it. For many years I was working on an old system on which TG Tools was inoperative,

Re: [Finale] Vertical spacing

2004-02-20 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 20, 2004, at 1:47 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: First off, Johannes is right, you should definitely start using TGTools Staff List Manager (with the relative box checked) instead of the Staff Usage dialog. Thanks, that's now on my list of TG tools to investigate. I've been busy with

Re: [Finale] Vertical spacing

2004-02-20 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 20, 2004, at 12:04 AM, d. collins wrote: Why? And what do you mean by exact increment. A whole number of spaces? Or do you accept fractions? Yes, I mean a whole number of spaces, which is 6 points, or 24 evpus. (I sometimes switch to evpus for smaller numbers or inches for larger ones,

Re: [Finale] Vertical spacing

2004-02-19 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 19, 2004, at 5:52 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: I don't know about anyone else, I almost never want to move one staff up or down and have all the subsequent staves hold their positions. For me, I wouldn't say almost never. However, when it does happen, my thinking is always something

Re: [Finale] Resetting Tuplets

2004-02-19 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 19, 2004, at 6:02 PM, Richard Yates wrote: Sorry, but I apparently do not understand how what you want to do is different from what Change--Tuplets does. What he wants is to be able to use Change - Tuplets with all the settings entered to match his Default Tuplet Definition. For a single

Re: [Finale] Adjust Syllables

2004-02-15 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 15, 2004, at 12:06 AM, d. collins wrote: Does this mean that in certain cases you do away with the hyphen? I've often been tempted to do this, but many singers have told me this makes the music much harder to read. Has this prompted any complaints from the singers? I've never heard

Re: [Finale] Adjust Syllables

2004-02-15 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 15, 2004, at 2:52 AM, d. collins wrote: Gerou-Lusk: Another help in reading melisma is the proper alignement of the lyric. The word or syllable, instead of being centered under the note, should be aligned flush left with the left edge of the notehead. Ross: I personally see no musical

Re: [Finale] TAN: binding oversize pages

2004-02-15 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 15, 2004, at 4:33 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: This may be a stupid question, but when creating center-stapled parts, what do you do when you have a single middle page, like for instance in a five-page or six-page part? Since it can't be stapled, how do you attach it? Do you just

Re: [Finale] Adjust Syllables

2004-02-12 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 12, 2004, at 12:05 PM, Clay Zambo wrote: From: Richard Huggins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry for the delay...I've been wanting to check my own Finale on my computer but it's being moved. My recollection about adjusting syllables is that while two handles appear, the bottom handle is the only

Re: [Finale] lyric and chord spacing

2004-02-11 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 10, 2004, at 9:23 PM, Don Hart wrote: Thanks, Mark and Christopher. You guys and a few notable others always seem to take the time to help out even (maybe especially) when Finale is having a little trouble holding up its end of the bargain. Thanks for the kind word, but to the extent

Re: [Finale] lyric and chord spacing

2004-02-10 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 10, 2004, at 8:33 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Thanks for posting your procedure -- I don't have too much experience with vocal music, so I'm still trying to figure out what works and what doesn't. As I turns out, I guess I must be doing at least something right, because my procedure

Re: [Finale] Another tuplet question

2004-02-09 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 9, 2004, at 6:12 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: What is the standard way to notate a sixteenth quintuplet when only the final note is played? What do you put under the bracket: A quarter rest followed by the sixteenth note? Two eighth rests followed by the sixteenth note? Four sixteenth

Re: [Finale] Triplet question

2004-02-09 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 9, 2004, at 5:06 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: In 4/4, one normally shows beat 3 of a measure when it contains eighth note values or smaller. However, I've run into a situation where my source has the following rhythm: [...] In other words, an eighth-note triplet starting on the and of

Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2004-02-09 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 9, 2004, at 4:28 AM, David H. Bailey wrote: There's actually FOUR kinds of lies, to paraphrase Mark Twain (I think he originated it): 1) Lies, 2) Damn Lies, 3) Statistics and 4) Marketing. The line appears in Twain's autobiography, but he himself attributes it to Benjamin Disraeli. More

Re: [Finale] 2k5 features (was Expression Metatools)

2004-02-08 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 8, 2004, at 12:22 AM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: but I solve this problem by using a hard hyphen rather than a hard space, so that on the first note after a system break in WIN FIN, I would use an alt - 0173 hyphen as the character to which the additional hypens in the succeeding system

Re: [Finale] Dot beyond barline (Was: Re: comparing finale/sibelius)

2004-02-08 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 8, 2004, at 10:49 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: 3. things that one takes for granted as taken care of by default in one program that need futzing around in the other. All of those are issues that have an impact on usability, and the balance may be very different for different repertories. And

Re: [Finale] 2k5 features (was Expression Metatools)

2004-02-07 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 7, 2004, at 12:34 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Meanwhile, since I'm stuck with WinFin2K3, what's the usual technique for getting hyphens into a score after line breaks? I have never figured out how to do it. Many recommend putting a hard space under the first syllable after the system

Re: [Finale] 2k5 features (was Expression Metatools)

2004-02-07 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 6, 2004, at 9:29 PM, Harold Owen wrote: I'm just getting up to speed with FinMac2k4. There have been only a few changes since 2k2. Now [...] Thanks for the updates. The fact that the lyrics window still has no zoom is just insane. Any normal sized lyrics are going to look tiny on the

[Finale] 2k5 features (was Expression Metatools)

2004-02-06 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 6, 2004, at 1:39 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: I don't know whether the feature set for 2k5 has been decided yet, but it certainly wouldn't hurt to send those feature requests to MakeMusic now. It's going to be a few more weeks before I get around to upgrading to 2k4 (Mac), and I never

Re: [Finale] Re: comparing finale/sibelius

2004-02-06 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 6, 2004, at 11:30 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: Finale's original pickup measure solution was (and still is) terrible, so I think most of us just use measures in different meters to accomplish the task. I never even knew there was another pickup measure solution. I've done it as a display

Re: [Finale] Re: comparing finale/sibelius

2004-02-06 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 6, 2004, at 1:26 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: This is, of course, wrong, as PICKUP MEASURE is not one of the choices under Document Options. This stymied me for quite some time! Instead, it's just OPTIONS | PICKUP MEASURE. My Fin Mac 2k2 doesn't have either of these menu items. This uses

Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2004-02-05 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 5, 2004, at 2:58 AM, David H. Bailey wrote: As a matter of fact, on the Sibelius list there was recently a question concerning how one could tell at a glance if a score were engraved with Sibelius or Finale or Score, and one wise-ass replied that if you could spot a measure with the

Re: [Finale] Global setting for a collection

2004-02-05 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 5, 2004, at 12:15 PM, musighi wrote: I am preparing a collection of 30 children's piano pieces for publishing and would like to create a unity of appearance throughout the book. I find going through each piece one at a time and setting standards for layout, margins, system spacing,

Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2004-02-03 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 3, 2004, at 1:50 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: I'd also love to see what experienced Sibelius users would say about all the items on the list. And then I'd love to see a Siblius user's similar list about Finale, with corresponding answers. I second both motions. mdl

Re: [Finale] Document settings (was Shortening secondary beam)

2004-01-30 Thread Mark D Lew
On Jan 29, 2004, at 3:38 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: You do know of the option of having artics taken into account for music spacing? I know it is not exactly what you are after, and in many situations it probably won't work well. Yes, but if there's a way to have the articulation definition

Re: [Finale] Is the same Sfp and Sfzp?

2004-01-30 Thread Mark D Lew
On Jan 29, 2004, at 12:06 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote: Because of this confusion, I always treat these symbols as if they were not merely abbreviations of the word sforzando (forcing), but incorporated dynamic information as well. In my music, sfz means specifically sforzando in forte--sforzandos

Re: [Finale] Document settings (was Shortening secondary beam)

2004-01-29 Thread Mark D Lew
On Jan 29, 2004, at 2:33 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: You could almost certainly use Robert's Tie Mover to get exactly what you want. Hmm, I'll have to look into that. Thanks. It would address 90% of my complaint if Finale's Tie Options were expanded enough to include an option which says if

Re: [Finale] Tuplet's numerals

2004-01-29 Thread Mark D Lew
In FinMac 2k2 the command you want is Mass Mover - Change - Tuplets. Change the Number and Shape to nothing and leave everything else blank. mdl ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Is the same Sfp and Sfzp?

2004-01-28 Thread Mark D Lew
On Jan 28, 2004, at 10:56 AM, Keef wrote: Very interesting argument but I was always under the impression that fp, sf and sfz were *accents* not dynamics. Basically, you punch it and get off of the punch as quickly as you can. That they look like dynamics and use the same characters make

Re: [Finale] Is the same Sfp and Sfzp?

2004-01-28 Thread Mark D Lew
On Jan 28, 2004, at 12:33 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: For instance, if you had a long note with an accent () and an fp indication below, how is that different from sfp or sfzp? In my mind, this question has the same answer as the same question with the p revmoved from both sides of the

Re: [Finale] Shortening secondary beam

2004-01-28 Thread Mark D Lew
On Jan 28, 2004, at 1:01 PM, d. collins wrote: I have an 8th, followed by a 16th rest, and then a 16th, beamed together. The secondary beam over the last 16th is too long. How can I shorten it? I would like to get the same thing I get with a dotted 8th followed by a 16th. Sounds to me like you

Re: [Finale] White out problem (playback)

2004-01-28 Thread Mark D Lew
On Jan 28, 2004, at 8:42 AM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: You're going to hate this solution! I do, because it doesn't play back! [...] 1. Create staff expression, shape. [...] I think Dennis's solution is the only one that works for what you need, Johannes. There are various ways to kludge

[Finale] Document settings (was Shortening secondary beam)

2004-01-28 Thread Mark D Lew
On Jan 28, 2004, at 4:25 PM, Owain Sutton wrote: It's what I wanted for one particular case in something I'm copying, but it also alters a huge number of other beamings. In particular, 16th-note tuplets which are 'note-rest-note' take a split second beam, where the composer (who wants things

Re: [Finale] Is the same Sfp and Sfzp?

2004-01-27 Thread Mark D Lew
On Jan 27, 2004, at 3:24 PM, Javier Ruiz wrote: Is the same Sfp and Sfzp? I would say yes, except that I've never seen sfzp before. As I understand it, sfz and sf are two different abbreviations for the same thing: sforzando. Sfp is a hybrid, combining the meaning of sf and fp. Presumably

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