Eric Dannewitz wrote:
Yes, and I'm sure every orchestra maintains lists for first call
Accordian players, and other instruments NOT regularly in the Orchestra.
You reinforced my point. Saxophone is not a regular part of an
Orchestra. Wind Ensemble/Orchestra, yes, but a traditional Orchestra,
Chuck Israels wrote:
On Oct 6, 2006, at 1:11 PM, dhbailey wrote:
Steve Schow wrote:
Regardless of when or how the sax has been used in orchestras, i believe
your are mischaracterizing Gary Garritan as he were someone that
deliberately left out a particular instrument to try to get more money
Williams, Jim wrote:
Well, just a day or two ago, somebody claimed Finale did *not*
include a sequencer. But it obviously does.
Sequencing : Finale = Notation: Band in a Box or Sonar.
That's my point -- no product does both sequencing and notation well,
and I can't believe it's
Eric Dannewitz wrote:
Then go edit Wikipedia. However, I doubt they will take your edit. You
just said standard additional instrument. It's not a standard
instrument, but an additional instrument. Get it? Ok, really slow
now.Standard...ADDITIONALinstrument.
And say just as
At 6:19 PM -0400 10/6/06, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
...
Nicely defined here:
http://www.yiddishdictionaryonline.com/dictionary/display.php?action=searchtype=romword=farkakte
...
Oops...
After a quick scan of subject lines I was ready to opine about Bakelite...
Never mind...
But thanks
On 07 Oct 2006, at 4:27 AM, dhbailey wrote:
Do you mean to tell me that every instrument included in GPO is a
regular member of a standard orchestra? I don't think so.
I'm not sure how that's relevant. You're saying you want GPO to
include fewer instruments?
Most orchestras do no have a
O, that is something entirely different then!
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
At 11:43 PM 10/6/06 +0200, Barbara Touburg wrote:
Suddeny I see a Dutch word. What does bekakte mean in English? In Dutch
to bekakt means pretending to be chique and insisting on displaying it.
I'm sure you'll be
A Glockenspiel was used in Mozart's Die Zauberflote. But I'm sure Mozart
was looking forward and knew it would be just a BAND instrument. Last
time I saw the San Francisco Symphony they had a Harp but no saxophones.
Funny...according to you they use them..not! One of the ladies I
play
Garritan Wind Ensemble is an upcoming project.
- Darcy
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On 07 Oct 2006, at 11:01 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote:
Saxophone is a band instrument. Or a Wind ensemble instrument. It's
not a part of a traditional Orchestra, and I
On Oct 7, 2006, at 11:10 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Garritan Wind Ensemble is an upcoming project.
Wow! Really? I suppose you have an inside line on this?
Christopher
(It shouldn't be TOO good, or it will lose the realism. Squeaky
clarinets, honky oboes (or else an out of tune muted
On 07 Oct 2006, at 11:24 AM, Christopher Smith wrote:
On Oct 7, 2006, at 11:10 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Garritan Wind Ensemble is an upcoming project.
Wow! Really? I suppose you have an inside line on this?
If by inside line you mean http://www.garritan.com:
Announcing: Garritan
Very cool. I'll have to start saving up for this ;-)
Darcy James Argue wrote:
Garritan Wind Ensemble is an upcoming project.
- Darcy
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On 07 Oct 2006, at 11:01 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote:
Saxophone is a band instrument. Or a
I want to thank everyone who offered advice and some great links to help me decide between switching to Sibelius or updating to Finale 2007 (from Finale 98.) I did take your advice, reading all the materials I could online and spending some time with each app. I first spent a full six hours with
On Oct 7, 2006, at 1:38 PM, Bob Shuster wrote:. I'm also anxious to see when it will be completely compatible with the Intel Macs (I have a MacPro machine) - particularly for my Garritan GPO and JABB libraries - which are currently unusable.Good news, Bob - AFAIK, FinMac2007 is already completely
So is choirs, solo voices and mandolins, at least it's what Gary told me.
John.
On Sat, 7 Oct 2006 11:10:54 -0400 Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Garritan Wind Ensemble is an upcoming project.
- Darcy
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Alright! Since most of my instrumental writing is for Wind
Ensemble, this would be great... yeah, I wonder what it will cost.
Dean
On Oct 7, 2006, at 9:27 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote:
Very cool. I'll have to start saving up for this ;-)
Darcy James Argue wrote:
Garritan Wind Ensemble is an
We've all heard that band but then we have heard an orchestra sound like
that too. I challenge you to find that sound from the Dallas Wind
Symphony, the Tokyo Kosei Wind Orchestra, or any of the really fine
university ensembles.
Some really good music by some respected composers is being
On Oct 7, 2006, at 2:40 PM, Richard Smith wrote:
We've all heard that band but then we have heard an orchestra sound
like that too. I challenge you to find that sound from the Dallas
Wind Symphony, the Tokyo Kosei Wind Orchestra, or any of the really
fine university ensembles.
Some
At 7:53 PM -0700 10/6/06, Eric Dannewitz wrote:
Then go edit Wikipedia. However, I doubt they will take your edit.
You just said standard additional instrument. It's not a standard
instrument, but an additional instrument. Get it? Ok, really slow
am about to introduce myself to finale 2007 (hi, i'm jef... please
behave and we can be friends) and wondering if there are any issues
to be aware of in simply dropping my old default file (template),
instrument and page sizes docs and preferences from 2005 into the
appropriate places in the
At 11:14 PM -0400 10/6/06, John T Sylvanis wrote:
That may be, the point still remains: produce notation software that has
realistic rendition which then can be recorded to
media. CD or tape or whatever may come in the future, for a demo. This
will liberate the composer from his eternal
On 7 Oct 2006 at 4:27, dhbailey wrote:
The saxes may
be missing because they weren't ready in time, they may be missing
because Gary simply felt like it wasn't important to include them (why
include glockenspiel, though? That's a band instrument if ever I've
seen one)
Well, perhaps
On 7 Oct 2006 at 13:40, Richard Smith wrote:
Some really good music by some respected composers is being written
for wind ensemble and many composition students are being advised that
the best way to hear one's music performed is to write for band, not
orchestra.
Are we talking about bands
The distinctions are not always clear. The wind ensemble's connection to
the band should not be obscured but the the connection to older wind
music is also important.
Richard Smith
www.rgsmithmusic.com
Are we talking about bands or wind ensemble?
Maybe I'm mistaken, but I thought there
On 7 Oct 2006 at 15:20, Richard Smith wrote:
[quoting me:]
Are we talking about bands or wind ensemble?
Maybe I'm mistaken, but I thought there was a difference.
The distinctions are not always clear. The wind ensemble's
connection to the band should not be obscured but the the
That's a good point. I suppose I think to much in live terms. Of course
doubling could be accomplished by hidden, duplicate staves.
I think all I would want that's not in GPO is a good set of concert (not
pop) saxophones, cornets and/or flugel horns, and euphonia that sound
like euphonia
On 7 Oct 2006 at 15:48, Richard Smith wrote:
[quoting me, unattributed, again:]
But for samples, wouldn't you want a completely different sound?
WHile they can play the same repertory, they amount of section
doubling is drastically different between the two ensembles.
Or so I've always
On 07 Oct 2006, at 1:47 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:On Oct 7, 2006, at 1:38 PM, Bob Shuster wrote:. I'm also anxious to see when it will be completely compatible with the Intel Macs (I have a MacPro machine) - particularly for my Garritan GPO and JABB libraries - which are currently unusable.Good
Eric Dannewitz wrote:
A Glockenspiel was used in Mozart's Die Zauberflote.
At risk of being picayune, the Glockenspiel used in Zauberflöte is a
keyboard instrument somewhat different in sound from the modern,
played-with-mallets, orchestral and band glockenspiel.
DJW
You're right, of course. Doubling the same instrument is just a waste of
resources. Egg on my face!
I think, for my purposes, I would prefer a wind ensemble to a larger
concert band set up because of the greater clarity (much like the real
world).
Richard Smith
www.rgsmithmusic.com
On 07 Oct 2006, at 6:32 PM, Richard Smith wrote:
You're right, of course. Doubling the same instrument is just a
waste of resources. Egg on my face!
Not at all. As I mentioned, in Garritan instruments, doubling the
player variations (i.e. Flute Player 1 and Flute Player 2) gives
I seem to be having trouble with language. When I said instruments, I
meant samples, not different samples of the same instrument. Sorry for
being unclear.
Richard Smith
www.rgsmithmusic.com
Not at all. As I mentioned, in Garritan instruments, doubling the
player variations (i.e. Flute
True, Richard Strauss used it in Don Juan.
John.
On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 00:17:19 +0200 Daniel Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Eric Dannewitz wrote:
A Glockenspiel was used in Mozart's Die Zauberflote.
At risk of being picayune, the Glockenspiel used in Zauberflöte is a
keyboard instrument
Was it a celesta?
Dean
At risk of being picayune, the Glockenspiel used in Zauberflöte is a
keyboard instrument somewhat different in sound from the modern,
played-with-mallets, orchestral and band glockenspiel.
DJW
Dean M. Estabrook
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Have you ever heard of an eleven or
At 4:04 PM -0400 10/7/06, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 7 Oct 2006 at 13:40, Richard Smith wrote:
Some really good music by some respected composers is being written
for wind ensemble and many composition students are being advised that
the best way to hear one's music performed is to write for
I think it was--or at least the late 18th century equivalent.
I also suspect that the German Glockenspiel can
actually refer to different instruments in
translation. It's possible that celesta is one
of them, as well as the mallet-played orchestra
bells. What I grew up calling a
Interesting that celeste is not listed, yet that's what I always hear
in Magic Flute performances and recordings. Seems OK to my ears.
Chuck
On Oct 7, 2006, at 4:42 PM, John Howell wrote:
I think it was--or at least the late 18th century equivalent.
I also suspect that the German
This dialog serves to remind me of an experience I had in my first
year of teaching ... ca. 1966. Our high school had a very fine
advanced band called a Wind Ensemble, which, in fact, had a minimum
number of players per part, in general. Then there was a less
advanced Concert Band, with
On the contrary, three of the terms mean a
keyboard instrument as the single or one possible
meaning.
John
At 5:58 PM -0700 10/7/06, Chuck Israels wrote:
Interesting that celeste is not listed, yet
that's what I always hear in Magic Flute
performances and recordings. Seems OK to my
ears.
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