Re: [Finale] Re: Fin 2008 arrived

2007-07-05 Thread dhbailey
Steve Schow wrote: Furtheremore, with keyboard macros and plugins, I can work so fast that I can't imagine Sibelius (or any other program) being any faster. Robert, as a new Finale user, let me just say that if you or someone like you wrote a book on how to become a Finale power user this

Re: [Finale] Re: Fin 2008 arrived

2007-07-05 Thread dhbailey
David W. Fenton wrote: On 3 Jul 2007 at 23:17, Aaron Sherber wrote: The documentation will open in Safari on Mac and IE on Windows, regardless of your default browser. I hope this will be fixed later on. I don't know how this kind of thing is handled on OS X, but on Windows, it's *harder*

Re: [Finale] Enharmonic Bug with Speedy

2007-07-05 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:20 AM 7/4/2007 -0500, you wrote: It is quite possible you will see few if any problems. The original problem was excruciating. It is doubtful you would not have noticed it. There is no postfix that I know of other than re-entering the affected notes. Thanks for that info. It's a relief

Re: [Finale] Re: Fin 2008 arrived

2007-07-05 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:02 PM 7/4/2007 -0400, Christopher Smith wrote: I have been able to freeze a spelling even after using the 9 key by setting my enharmonic preferences to what I want, then holding down the MIDI note with the Speedy cursor on the note and hitting Enter (numeric keypad). This effectively

[Finale] export eps

2007-07-05 Thread Pierre Bailleul
I work on fin 2007.r2 on PC. Frequently, when I export pages in eps with all postscript options, finale stop. So I run finale another time and I export another page... Thanks for your aid. Pierre ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

[Finale] Slashed grace notes

2007-07-05 Thread dr.a.s. weinstangel
Dear collective wisdom: Two questions: 1. To slash a flagged grace note is easy. But, how to get slashed beamed grace notes, without having to manually place a slash on each group (and then have it move somewhere else every once in a while)? 2. I would like to place beamed grace notes that

Re: [Finale] Slashed grace notes

2007-07-05 Thread Hans Swinnen
1. It's not possible AFAIK. I've already asked for this in the early ninety's :-( 2. You can insert the grace notes after the last beat (or note) of the preceding bar (measure). Finale wouldn't tell you there are too many beats. Hans God told me how this music should be played, but

Re: [Finale] Slashed grace notes

2007-07-05 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jul 5, 2007, at 9:37 AM, dr.a.s. weinstangel wrote: Dear collective wisdom: Two questions: 1. To slash a flagged grace note is easy. But, how to get slashed beamed grace notes, without having to manually place a slash on each group (and then have it move somewhere else every once in a

Re: [Finale] Re: Fin 2008 arrived

2007-07-05 Thread Eric Dannewitz
http://www.soundonsound.com/ has a whole page about Sibelius 5. I have YET to see them mention Finale 2008. dhbailey wrote: There was a short blurb in PCWorld (at least the on-line edition) about the release of Sibelius 5, which starts off by calling Sibelius the world's best selling notation

Re: [Finale] OT: 18th century trombones

2007-07-05 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Jul 4, 2007, at 10:49 PM, Raymond Horton wrote: Andrew Stiller, a few weeks back I said some recent scholarship was heading toward alto, tenor and bass trombones all being in Bb in the 18th and 19th centuries. I intended to send you some links at the time but did not. Here are some...

Re: [Finale] Slashed grace notes

2007-07-05 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Jul 5, 2007, at 10:14 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: 2. I would like to place beamed grace notes that precede downbeats into the previous bar. Could this be done globally for given sections of the piece? If there are other notes in the previous measure, then this is easy, but I don't

Re: [Finale] Slashed grace notes

2007-07-05 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jul 5, 2007, at 12:10 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote: On Jul 5, 2007, at 10:14 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: 2. I would like to place beamed grace notes that precede downbeats into the previous bar. Could this be done globally for given sections of the piece? If there are other notes in

Re: [Finale] DB part

2007-07-05 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 12:28 PM 7/5/2007, Will Denayer wrote: Dean, I know that, the question is: how can I notate for DB and make the playback play back the part an octave lower? I cannot figure this out.  Will, this has been answered for your already; perhaps you responded to Dean's email before looking at all

[Finale] DB part

2007-07-05 Thread Will Denayer
The DB sounds an octave lower than written. E.g., if it reads a cello part (which is often does, hence the term Double Bass), it will sound an octave lower than the celli. Dean, I know that, the question is: how can I notate for DB and make the playback play back the part an octave lower?

Re: [Finale] DB part

2007-07-05 Thread Rich Caldwell
I don't know if someone else has suggested this, as I haven't been following the discussion closely. What I've done is create a new clef designed to transpose an octave. Go to Doc Ops Clefs and click on Clef Designer. Choose a slot containing a clef you won't be using for anything else,

[Finale] Version Control Software For Use With Finale Files

2007-07-05 Thread Leigh Daniels
Hello All, Computer programmers use version control software that keeps a database of their program source files. They check out a file, make some changes, log the changes and check the file back in to the version control database which records the changes. Then it's possible to roll back the

[Finale] Re: Fin 2008 arrived

2007-07-05 Thread Aryeh Har-Even
A few thoughts on the recent postings: • All programs have bugs. We the users must keep at the company to fix them. They know that we matter. • If the program came out early to compete with Sibelius new version, good. Better that Finale stays in the market than we the users have to port all

Re: [Finale] Re: Fin 2008 arrived

2007-07-05 Thread John Howell
At 8:18 AM -0800 7/5/07, Eric Dannewitz wrote: http://www.soundonsound.com/ has a whole page about Sibelius 5. I have YET to see them mention Finale 2008. dhbailey wrote: There was a short blurb in PCWorld (at least the on-line edition) about the release of Sibelius 5, which starts off by

Re: [Finale] Re: Fin 2008 arrived

2007-07-05 Thread dhbailey
John Howell wrote: At 8:18 AM -0800 7/5/07, Eric Dannewitz wrote: http://www.soundonsound.com/ has a whole page about Sibelius 5. I have YET to see them mention Finale 2008. dhbailey wrote: There was a short blurb in PCWorld (at least the on-line edition) about the release of Sibelius 5,

Re: [Finale] Version Control Software For Use With Finale Files

2007-07-05 Thread Martin Gieseking
Computer programmers use version control software that keeps a database of their program source files. They check out a file, make some changes, log the changes and check the file back in to the version control database which records the changes. Then it's possible to roll back the work to any

Re: [Finale] Re: Fin 2008 arrived

2007-07-05 Thread John Howell
At 3:19 PM -0400 7/5/07, dhbailey wrote: Why Sibelius wins so many school site-license contracts and Finale doesn't is something that MakeMusic needs to address. It's not impossible, it just seems that MakeMusic has no clue what it should be doing. It's too caught up in the SmartMusic

Re: [Finale] OT: 18th century trombones

2007-07-05 Thread Raymond Horton
I was never aware of such 80's belief. Up until this recent scholarship, all I ever knew was that a trio of trombones: alto in Eb, tenor in Bb and bass in F were the norm in Germany in the 1700s and early 1800s until replaced by two tenors and a Bb/F bass in the mid 1800s, more or less.

Re: [Finale] Re: Fin 2008 arrived

2007-07-05 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jul 5, 2007, at 3:44 PM, John Howell wrote: At 3:19 PM -0400 7/5/07, dhbailey wrote: And for the folks writing traditional band/orchestra works using traditional harmonic structures, they don't care one bit about cross-staff notation. And I would go out on a limb and speculate that

[Finale] printing weirdness

2007-07-05 Thread Andrew Stiller
FinMac2K7. I just updated a 3.7 file and added a blank page at the beginning so it could be printed as a booklet. With the blank page, there are 11 pages total, so the booklet should be printed as 1,1,2,11,10,3,4,9,8,5,6,7--an arrangement that has worked fine for other 11-page booklets I have

Re: [Finale] Slashed grace notes

2007-07-05 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Jul 5, 2007, at 12:31 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: I'm sorry, but I don't get what you are meaning. I've never had trouble with these at the end of a measure, and nothing I have ever done has ever caused them to move into the next measure. Can you be specific? I think it happens in a

Re: [Finale] OT: 18th century trombones

2007-07-05 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Jul 5, 2007, at 5:09 PM, Raymond Horton wrote: I was never aware of such 80's belief. Up until this recent scholarship, all I ever knew was that a trio of trombones: alto in Eb, tenor in Bb and bass in F were the norm in Germany in the 1700s and early 1800s until replaced by two tenors

Re: [Finale] printing  weirdness

2007-07-05 Thread JohnBlane
In a message dated 7/5/07 4:28:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: FinMac2K7. I just updated a 3.7 file and added a blank page at the beginning so it could be printed as a booklet. With the blank page, there are 11 pages total, so the booklet should be printed as 1,1,2,11,10,3,4,9,8,5,6,7--an

RE: [Finale] Slashed grace notes

2007-07-05 Thread dr.a.s. weinstangel
Just a quick thank you to everyone who responded to my questions. Your answers have confirmed what I have thought was the situation. I have now manually entered the grace notes into the preceding bars, erased them from were they used to be, and added slashes with expression tool, while

Re: [Finale] Slashed grace notes

2007-07-05 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 06:37 PM 7/5/2007 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: On 5 Jul 2007 at 17:37, Andrew Stiller wrote: A particularly common circumstance for me is if I have inadvertently omitted a bar in one part, I often don't discover it until 10-20 bars later. To make room for the omitted bar, I enter extra

Re: [Finale] Slashed grace notes

2007-07-05 Thread David W. Fenton
On 5 Jul 2007 at 17:37, Andrew Stiller wrote: A particularly common circumstance for me is if I have inadvertently omitted a bar in one part, I often don't discover it until 10-20 bars later. To make room for the omitted bar, I enter extra rests at the end of the bar preceding, then tell

Re: [Finale] (no subject)

2007-07-05 Thread JohnBlane
In a message dated 7/5/07 6:27:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've just reopened a file (WinFin06) I've been working on for a few hours and I find that the major sections of the score (winds, brass, perc, strings) have dark blue wedges in them, in both scroll and page views.  These blue

Re: [Finale] Version Control Software For Use With Final

2007-07-05 Thread David W. Fenton
On 5 Jul 2007 at 13:49, Leigh Daniels wrote: I am wondering if there is any version control software that is normally used by programmers that might work with Finale .MUS files. Because of the way Finale does it's backup files, you can use an undelete program to access all your saved versions.

[Finale] (no subject)

2007-07-05 Thread Bruce E. Clausen
I've just reopened a file (WinFin06) I've been working on for a few hours and I find that the major sections of the score (winds, brass, perc, strings) have dark blue wedges in them, in both scroll and page views. These blue intrusions weren't there when I last closed the file; and they

Re: [Finale] (no subject)

2007-07-05 Thread Bruce E. Clausen
Thanks, John. Works like a charm! BC - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] (no subject) In a message dated 7/5/07 6:27:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've just reopened a file (WinFin06)

Re: [Finale] OT: 18th century trombones

2007-07-05 Thread John Howell
At 5:09 PM -0400 7/5/07, Raymond Horton wrote: I was never aware of such 80's belief. Up until this recent scholarship, all I ever knew was that a trio of trombones: alto in Eb, tenor in Bb and bass in F were the norm in Germany in the 1700s and early 1800s until replaced by two tenors and a

Re: [Finale] printing  weirdness

2007-07-05 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Jul 5, 2007, at 6:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/5/07 4:28:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: FinMac2K7. I just updated a 3.7 file and added a blank page at the beginning so it could be printed as a booklet. With the blank page, there are 11 pages total, so the

Re: [Finale] Slashed grace notes

2007-07-05 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Jul 5, 2007, at 6:37 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 5 Jul 2007 at 17:37, Andrew Stiller wrote: A particularly common circumstance for me is if I have inadvertently omitted a bar in one part, I often don't discover it until 10-20 bars later. To make room for the omitted bar, I enter extra

Re: [Finale] FinMac2007c file overwrite + more 2008

2007-07-05 Thread Karen
Thanks so much Christopher, David and Dennis! That'll do it! The hidden text style will work great for what I need it for. Maybe even better than the old way. Actually, I really like the idea of being able to do this with expression tool. In the Text Tool there is a Show

Re: [Finale] Re: Fin 2008 arrived

2007-07-05 Thread Eric Dannewitz
dhbailey wrote: Sibelius does produce a great looking page with default settings. Comparing it to someone's altered Finale page, however, isn't really a fair comparison, because someone could just as easily have done the same in Sibelius. That they didn't feel they needed to says more than