Re: [Finale] Desktop versus laptop survey

2007-12-13 Thread Jari Williamsson
Christopher Smith wrote: Unless you're like Jari and me, whose computer use is up to 125.8% of what is possible... 8-) Well, actually, my computer's use is up to 142.12%, but I have to remove the standard 4.31% because it's set up in a human environment. Thus the 125.8%... I wouldn't cons

Re: [Finale] Shift optimization?

2007-12-13 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 14.12.2007 Thomas Schaller wrote: I don't think it's possible what you want . I think Darcy is asking to copy a range of systems' optimization and copy it to a different location - he's not asking to SHIFt optimization. I'm afraid you have to do it one-by-one - by the way your example below

Re: [Finale] pizz/arco HP 2007 Win

2007-12-13 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Although I haven't seen this with pizz and arco, I have heard it a lot of the time with dynamics. I don't know what the answer is. However, HP and GPO have long lost their attractions for me. They both require far too much tweaking to be useful for me. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.co

Re: [Finale] Shift optimization?

2007-12-13 Thread Thomas Schaller
Darcy, I don't think it's possible what you want . I think Darcy is asking to copy a range of systems' optimization and copy it to a different location - he's not asking to SHIFt optimization. I'm afraid you have to do it one-by-one - by the way your example below should have read: ...le

Re: [Finale] Shift optimization?

2007-12-13 Thread Christopher Smith
It's TGTool > Layout > Shift System Optimisation. You need version 2.45, now available on his site. You would shift by 1. Christopher On Dec 14, 2007, at 12:16 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Hi Robert, I'm afraid I don't see it. TGTools -> Modify -> Shift has options for Notes, Glissandi,

Re: [Finale] Desktop versus laptop survey

2007-12-13 Thread Christopher Smith
On Dec 13, 2007, at 7:37 PM, Jón Kristinn Cortez wrote: 95% desktop, then it must be 5% laptop Unless you're like Jari and me, whose computer use is up to 125.8% of what is possible... 8-) Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] Shift optimization?

2007-12-13 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Robert, I'm afraid I don't see it. TGTools -> Modify -> Shift has options for Notes, Glissandi, Accis, Widths, and Sixths -- nothing about layout. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 13 Dec 2007, at 1:44 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: Not with Staff List Manager. Loo

Re: [Finale] usb number pad with clear key?

2007-12-13 Thread Christopher Smith
On Dec 13, 2007, at 2:19 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: There is this one: http://www.welovemacs.com/usb-kpad.html ... although it is listed as "no longer available." I'm curious whether the "numlock" key on PC numeric keypads actually triggers a "Clear" when used with a Mac. (There is no

Re: [Finale] Desktop versus laptop survey

2007-12-13 Thread John Roberts
Desktop, almost always. (Now with my new-to-me 24" monitor, as soon as I clear enough desk space to install it :-) John Roberts ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Desktop versus laptop survey

2007-12-13 Thread Michael L. Meyer
Laptop 90% of the time overall, but I use my desktop for most of my Finale stuff. -- Mike ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Desktop versus laptop survey

2007-12-13 Thread Bob Morabito
Desktop On Dec 13, 2007, at 12:29 AM, Henry E. Howey wrote: I think we need a list survey of laptop versus desktop usage. I, for example, have both, but my laptop is my real machine upon which I do 60-70% of my work. If my observation of an observed group of undergraduate students is accura

[Finale] pizz/arco HP 2007 Win

2007-12-13 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
Hi all, Finale 2007c WinXP. Trying to put together a demo of a new piece. One pizz double-stop appears at the end of each phrase, and HP is switching arco and pizz too early or too late -- sometimes it'll pizz the last two, or the last one and the first of the next. I've tried attaching to notes

Re: [Finale] usb number pad with clear key?

2007-12-13 Thread Darcy James Argue
There is this one: http://www.welovemacs.com/usb-kpad.html ... although it is listed as "no longer available." I'm curious whether the "numlock" key on PC numeric keypads actually triggers a "Clear" when used with a Mac. (There is no "numlock" on Apple keyboards and Macs do not, to my knowl

Re: [Finale] Desktop versus laptop survey

2007-12-13 Thread Mariposa Symphony Orchestra
PC: 100% And if this posting appears with any additions to the subject line (as my last one did,) cool your heels: my ISP assures me it doesn't originate with them, nor have I had any similar situations with any other grouplist. Les Marsden Founding Music Director and Conductor, The Mariposa

Re: [Finale] Shift optimization?

2007-12-13 Thread Robert Patterson
Not with Staff List Manager. Look at the Shift... menu option. I think it will do what you want. On Dec 13, 2007 12:37 PM, Darcy James Argue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Using TGTools Staff List Manager, is there any way to take the > optimization settings (including distance between systems, etc)

Re: [Finale] Desktop versus laptop survey

2007-12-13 Thread Jón Kristinn Cortez
95% desktop, then it must be 5% laptop Cortez ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Desktop versus laptop survey

2007-12-13 Thread Dalvin Boone
Desktop. Dalvin Boone ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Desktop versus laptop survey

2007-12-13 Thread Bruce Clausen
Desktop. I'm a fossil who still works first/second drafts in hard copy and then transfers/edits to computer. Bruce Clausen - Original Message - From: "Rick Neal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Desktop versus laptop survey

Re: [Finale] usb number pad with clear key?

2007-12-13 Thread Christopher Smith
Yeesh! Almost three times the price I paid for a generic PC one at Future Shop. Thirty dollars for a clear key? I had better use it a lot! Christopher On Dec 13, 2007, at 2:38 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: This one is still available: http://www.keyovation.com/pc-69-14-goldtouch-apple-compa

Re: [Finale] usb number pad with clear key?

2007-12-13 Thread Darcy James Argue
This one is still available: http://www.keyovation.com/pc-69-14-goldtouch-apple-compatible-numeric-keypad.aspx Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 13 Dec 2007, at 1:05 PM, Mark McCarron wrote: are there usb number pads out there with a clear key? It seems they don't.

RE: [Finale] Desktop versus laptop survey

2007-12-13 Thread Richard Willis
Multi-tasking *grin* Richard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lora Crighton Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:09 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Desktop versus laptop survey --- Christopher Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

Re: [Finale] Dotted rhythms GONE

2007-12-13 Thread Darcy James Argue
John, Apple laptops have many dual-function keys. You trigger the alternate function by holding down the "fn" key. The keys on the right-hand side of the keyboard (6789 UIO[ JKL; M,./ ) form an alternate numeric keypad that can be invoked by holding down the "fn" key, or (as I just discov

Re: [Finale] usb number pad with clear key?

2007-12-13 Thread Darcy James Argue
I'm curious whether the "numlock" key on PC numeric keypads actually triggers a "Clear" when used with a Mac. (There is no "numlock" on Apple keyboards and Macs do not, to my knowledge, support the "numlock" function.) Ooops! Obviously this is not the case! Apple laptops do have a "numloc

Re: [Finale] Dotted rhythms GONE

2007-12-13 Thread John Blane
Darcy - I'm confused - when you say "part of the alternate numeric keyboard" do you mean when the the numlock is invoked? That would mean the letter "o" for the number 6, right? Doesn't the Fn-6 (in the top number row) work as well when the numlock is not on? On Dec 13, 2007, at 11:49 AM,

[Finale] usb number pad with clear key?

2007-12-13 Thread Mark McCarron
are there usb number pads out there with a clear key? It seems they don't. Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Dotted rhythms GONE

2007-12-13 Thread Christopher Smith
On Dec 13, 2007, at 1:21 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 13 Dec 2007, at 1:10 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: (Just for those who don't know) the Clear key on Mac is just above the 7 on the numeric keypad. Most of the numeric keypad functions are duplicated elsewhere on the laptop keyboard,

Re: [Finale] Desktop versus laptop survey

2007-12-13 Thread Christopher Smith
On Dec 13, 2007, at 12:30 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: If I were to switch to a laptop-only setup, I'd need a docking station at home and portable mouse for carrying with me. I don't know what I'd do about MIDI, though, or whether or not most docking stations have speaker connections. You could

Re: [Finale] Dotted rhythms GONE

2007-12-13 Thread David W. Fenton
On 13 Dec 2007 at 13:10, Christopher Smith wrote: > When measures are selected, Clear will empty them while > Backspace cuts them. What is the equivalent function in Windows? BACKSPACE empties selections, DELETE cuts the selection. -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com Davi

Re: [Finale] Dotted rhythms GONE

2007-12-13 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 01:10 PM 12/13/2007, Christopher Smith wrote: >as far as I can tell. Backspace on the Mac will delete an item in >Finale most of the time, whereas Clear will just clear manual >positioning. I assume that by "item" you mean an expression or smartshape or some such? On Win, Delete deletes the i

[Finale] Shift optimization?

2007-12-13 Thread Darcy James Argue
Using TGTools Staff List Manager, is there any way to take the optimization settings (including distance between systems, etc). from, a RANGE of systems and copy it to a different range of systems? For instance, let's say I want to copy the current optimizations for systems 10-99 and shift

[Finale] check your 2k8a install for proper version

2007-12-13 Thread Randolph Peters
Here is a tip for users of the FinMac 2k8a upgrade. Make sure the upgraded version of Finale is 2008a.r1 in the info window or alternately, 13.0a.r1 in the preview pane. The previous version of Finale was 2008.r2 in the info window and 13.0.r2 in the preview pane. The problem with the 2k8a

Re: [Finale] Dotted rhythms GONE

2007-12-13 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 13 Dec 2007, at 1:10 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: (Just for those who don't know) the Clear key on Mac is just above the 7 on the numeric keypad. Most of the numeric keypad functions are duplicated elsewhere on the laptop keyboard, but not the Clear key, as far as I can tell. As I sai

Re: [Finale] Dotted rhythms GONE

2007-12-13 Thread Christopher Smith
On Dec 13, 2007, at 12:37 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 13 Dec 2007 at 1:31, Christopher Smith wrote: And I find the lack of a Clear key to be a major impediment in my Finale work on my laptop. Windows keyboards have never had a Clear key -- the Backspace key is what replaces it. Is it poss

Re: [Finale] Desktop versus laptop survey

2007-12-13 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Thu, December 13, 2007 12:32 pm, David W. Fenton wrote: > The laptop > *is* a $deity-send when I go to the library and need to take notes > for my research, but otherwise, it's not that big an advantage as I'd > thought it would be. I agree with David about it not being as significant as some f

Re: [Finale] Dotted rhythms GONE

2007-12-13 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi David, No. The Mac laptop clear key must be invoked using the "fn" button in combination with the "6" key (it's part of the "alternate numeric keypad" on the right-side of the laptop keyboard). I use an Apple Bluetooth wireless keyboard with my laptop, which has the full numeric keypad

Re: [Finale] Desktop versus laptop survey

2007-12-13 Thread Lora Crighton
--- Christopher Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Dec 13, 2007, at 9:05 AM, Jari Williamsson wrote: > > > On Dec 13, 2007 12:29 AM, Henry E. Howey > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I think we need a list survey of laptop versus > desktop usage. > > > > 78.6% desktop use, the remaining 47

Re: [Finale] Dotted rhythms GONE

2007-12-13 Thread David W. Fenton
On 13 Dec 2007 at 1:31, Christopher Smith wrote: > And I find the lack of a Clear key to be a major impediment in my > Finale work on my laptop. Windows keyboards have never had a Clear key -- the Backspace key is what replaces it. Is it possible that that's the case also on Mac laptops? --

Re: [Finale] Desktop versus laptop survey

2007-12-13 Thread David W. Fenton
On 13 Dec 2007 at 14:11, dc wrote: > Anyone who uses a computer > professionally needs at least two machines, so why not one of each? They do? Up until September of 2007, I managed to run my computer consulting business entirely with one desktop computer and no laptop (since 1994). I contempla

Re: [Finale] Desktop versus laptop survey

2007-12-13 Thread David W. Fenton
On 12 Dec 2007 at 23:29, Henry E. Howey wrote: > I, for example, have both, but my laptop is my real machine upon which I > do 60-70% of my work. > > If my observation of an observed group of undergraduate students is > accurate, they are closer to 90% in laptop usage. I recently became a laptop

Re: [Finale] Desktop versus laptop survey

2007-12-13 Thread Christopher Smith
On Dec 13, 2007, at 9:05 AM, Jari Williamsson wrote: On Dec 13, 2007 12:29 AM, Henry E. Howey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think we need a list survey of laptop versus desktop usage. 78.6% desktop use, the remaining 47.2% on laptop. Bwahh! You made me spit my tea! Actually, your proport

Re: [Finale] Desktop versus laptop survey

2007-12-13 Thread Carl Donsbach
All desktop for the moment. However, having been good most of the year, I am hoping to get a laptop for Christmas, and will be trying Finale on that in the coming months. I don't expect to completely abandon the desktop computer, but am encouraged by how many on this list are using laptops.

Re: [Finale] Desktop versus laptop survey

2007-12-13 Thread VincentL10
Desktop for Finale 2006 and 2007, and Laptop for 2008 thanks to OS restrictions until my Pro Tools hardware is updated. I have a DVI switch so I can go back and forth between them using the studio 23 inch dispaly amd MIDI setup. The laptop networks over a wireless router. Work percentage

Re: [Finale] Desktop versus laptop survey

2007-12-13 Thread Jack Ellis
Desktop - Sequencer at 45 degrees to keyboard/monitor, use speedy entry (do mostly composing and arranging) 19" monitor sound through old stereo amp & speakers (transfer arrangements in stereo to sequencer) use laptop for back-up (used once for Finale when desktop had power supply replaced)

Re: [Finale] Desktop versus laptop survey

2007-12-13 Thread Ray Horton
Desktop here. Use wife's laptop on tour buses .05 % of time. (Hate it.) Raymond Horton --- "Henry E. Howey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think we need a list survey of laptop versus desktop usage. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] Desktop versus laptop survey

2007-12-13 Thread Rick Neal
Mine is a laptop with a USB number pad and a wireless mouse. At home I also use an Echo Audiofire 2 I/O interface, a Yamaha midi keyboard, and run it all through my home stereo system. Rick -Original Message- >From: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Dec 13, 2007 10:19 AM >

Re: [Finale] Desktop versus laptop survey

2007-12-13 Thread Lora Crighton
--- Dennis Bathory-Kitsz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So the people who have answered 'laptop' -- do you > use it without screens, > external keyboards, etc.? Or docked to become a > desktop-like computer? In > which case, yeah, we have two laptops here at home. > :) > I have a mouse, keyboar

Re: [Finale] Desktop versus laptop survey

2007-12-13 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Thu, December 13, 2007 9:25 am, Martin Banner wrote: > I work at home on a 15" Mac G4 laptop, with separate 17" screen, plus > wireless mouse and wireless full size keyboard, connected (wireless) to > my HP Laserjet 2300dn Good you clarified. When the question was asked, I though it suggested a

Re: [Finale] Desktop versus laptop survey

2007-12-13 Thread Hans Swinnen
2 laptops, one with a 22' external monitor for music, no more desktop. Hans On Dec 12, 2007, at 9:29 PM, Henry E. Howey wrote: I think we need a list survey of laptop versus desktop usage. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.e

Re: [Finale] Desktop versus laptop survey

2007-12-13 Thread Lora Crighton
--- "Henry E. Howey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think we need a list survey of laptop versus > desktop usage. > > I, for example, have both, but my laptop is my real > machine upon which I > do 60-70% of my work. > > If my observation of an observed group of > undergraduate students is > ac

Re: [Finale] Desktop versus laptop survey

2007-12-13 Thread Martin Banner
I work at home on a 15" Mac G4 laptop, with separate 17" screen, plus wireless mouse and wireless full size keyboard, connected (wireless) to my HP Laserjet 2300dn Martin Banner [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://li

Re: [Finale] Desktop versus laptop survey

2007-12-13 Thread Jari Williamsson
On Dec 13, 2007 12:29 AM, Henry E. Howey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think we need a list survey of laptop versus desktop usage. 78.6% desktop use, the remaining 47.2% on laptop. Christmas tip: You can turn your Finale-laptop into a kind of Playstation by using pivot on the laptop while try

Re: [Finale] Desktop versus laptop survey

2007-12-13 Thread shirling & neueweise
at the moment 100% quasi-portable (really desktop): in spring 2005 a fully-loaded mac mini was a good solution (price vs. need vs. functionality) for me because i work at home **all** the time, and when i travel i usually have a place i can set up for as long as i am there; the whole computer

Re: [Finale] Desktop versus laptop survey

2007-12-13 Thread Richard Smith
Mostly desktop for the serious work. The laptop is for classroom and quick work. My desktop sounds much better, has more resources and is faster so I prefer to work on it. Richard Smith http://www.rgsmithmusic.com Chuck Israels wrote: I'm in the desktop camp. Chuck On Dec 12, 2007, at 9:29

Re: [Finale] Desktop versus laptop survey

2007-12-13 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Thu, December 13, 2007 12:29 am, Henry E. Howey wrote: > I think we need a list survey of laptop versus desktop usage. My laptop is only for travel. I'm a touch-typist (alpha and numeric), and laptop keyboards don't have enough keys or vertical key travel, plus I like large screens and there's

Re: [Finale] Desktop versus laptop survey

2007-12-13 Thread Lawrence David Eden
On Dec 13, 2007 12:29 AM, Henry E. Howey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think we need a list survey of laptop versus desktop usage. 100% desktop for me. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Desktop versus laptop survey

2007-12-13 Thread Adam Taylor
On Dec 13, 2007 12:29 AM, Henry E. Howey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think we need a list survey of laptop versus desktop usage. I, for example, have both, but my laptop is my real machine upon which I do 60-70% of my work. I use my laptop more than my desktop for Finale purposes. I found that

Re: [Finale] Desktop versus laptop survey

2007-12-13 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 12:29 AM 12/13/2007, Henry E. Howey wrote: >I think we need a list survey of laptop versus desktop usage. I use my desktop about 75% of the time -- but more like 95% for Finale. A lot of what I do is transcribing or editing from existing sources, and I need to have my copy holder on my desk

Re: [Finale] Dotted rhythms GONE

2007-12-13 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 12:26 AM 12/13/2007, Henry E. Howey wrote: >I cannot seem to find the setting, but WinFINALE 2008 (and 2008a) have >taken upon itself the respomsibility to remove all dotted rhythms and >replace them with their subordinate constituents. This occurs diring ALL >Insets and MANY Pastes. I can't r

Re: [Finale] Dotted rhythms GONE

2007-12-13 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 01:31 AM 12/13/2007, Christopher Smith wrote: >Yeah, when Finale pastes partial measures, it rebeams to the meter. >Now that the Selection Tool selects partial measures as part of its >normal operation, that means that if you are ever copying partial >measures then the target gets rebeamed. I h

Re: [Finale] Desktop versus laptop survey

2007-12-13 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
On Dec 13, 2007 12:29 AM, Henry E. Howey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think we need a list survey of laptop versus desktop usage. > > I, for example, have both, but my laptop is my real machine upon which I > do 60-70% of my work. It's about 50/50 on both, but right now, since I'm on holiday wit

Re: [Finale] Desktop versus laptop survey

2007-12-13 Thread John Howell
At 11:29 PM -0600 12/12/07, Henry E. Howey wrote: I think we need a list survey of laptop versus desktop usage. I, for example, have both, but my laptop is my real machine upon which I do 60-70% of my work. If my observation of an observed group of undergraduate students is accurate, they are c

Re: [Finale] Dotted rhythms GONE

2007-12-13 Thread dhbailey
Henry E. Howey wrote: I cannot seem to find the setting, but WinFINALE 2008 (and 2008a) have taken upon itself the respomsibility to remove all dotted rhythms and replace them with their subordinate constituents. This occurs diring ALL Insets and MANY Pastes. I cannot see any rational reason for

Re: [Finale] Desktop versus laptop survey

2007-12-13 Thread Johannes Gebauer
100% Laptop. I couldn't live without it. My next machine will be a laptop again. For what it is worth, I don't even use a second monitor, although I am always tempted to get one. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de __

Re: [Finale] Desktop versus laptop survey

2007-12-13 Thread Leigh Daniels
For me it's about 85% desktop (because of my 30" display!) and 15% laptop. **Leigh On Wed, Dec 12, 2007, Henry E. Howey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I think we need a list survey of laptop versus desktop usage. > >I, for example, have both, but my laptop is my real machine upon which I >do 60-70%

Re: [Finale] lyrics and spacing in 2008

2007-12-13 Thread Mark D Lew
On Dec 11, 2007, at 8:49 AM, dc wrote: Sorry, but I don't follow you. That's assuming that a whole region would require the same treatment - at least one full measure in ALL the parts. The problem is that you can have in the SAME measure and in the same part both a melisma and lyrics that n