Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?

2011-05-23 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 1:44 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > I think it's funny when old people get upset. You are like what, 60, > and you are using childish references, Glenn beck pictures, and > O'Reily references that maybe two other people get? And ass > references? Really? I think it's funnier

Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?

2011-05-23 Thread Eric Dannewitz
I think it's funny when old people get upset. You are like what, 60, and you are using childish references, Glenn beck pictures, and O'Reily references that maybe two other people get? And ass references? Really? Sales figures matter. Why would Apple be in the tops there if they didn't make good p

Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?

2011-05-23 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Huh? Who? You aren't making sense..what are you talking about? Sent from my iSomething On May 23, 2011, at 10:34 PM, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: Aw more butthurt: LOL @ 950.00 27 inch monitor compared to HP's 27 version for only 320 @ the aforementioned Amazon, clearly someone is dedicated to

Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?

2011-05-23 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 12:43 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > Oh, but you spent lots of money on a niche product. You could have > bought 2 or more $300 laptops that could do all what you want. > > The iMac is really nice. The displays are nice. And it is nearly > silent. A 27" iMac and a 30" external

Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?

2011-05-23 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Eric wrote: > Man, you are a moron huh? I mean, you are using Glenn beck and Bill > O'Reilly? What purpose does bringing these people into this > discussion? Are you? I mean, it's one thing to have a debate about a platform and your personal preferences, but if y

Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?

2011-05-23 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Oh, but you spent lots of money on a niche product. You could have bought 2 or more $300 laptops that could do all what you want. The iMac is really nice. The displays are nice. And it is nearly silent. A 27" iMac and a 30" external monitor would be amazing. Have you done that? How would you arran

Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?

2011-05-23 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Man, you are a moron huh? I mean, you are using Glenn beck and Bill O'Reilly? What purpose does bringing these people into this discussion? Whatever. I think anyone that reads your posts will see them for what they are.ill-informed. Apple makes great products, and if one is looking for a new

[Finale] Re: Forcing ties to previous note

2011-05-23 Thread Stephen Lamb
Thanks, everyone who responded, for the timely responses to my question about forcing ties to a previous note at a coda or similar instance. I just remembered I didn't follow up with this. The answer Ryan gave, about how using a different layer will get backward ties to show up, proved to be t

Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?

2011-05-23 Thread Chuck Israels
The last thing I wanted to do was to start a platform war. Macs are better for me (in my limited experience) and worth the money - for me. PCs seem to be less expensive, and I know they work. I find them slightly more obtuse and I am clumsier when using them, but that may be lack of experienc

Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?

2011-05-23 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > Actually, no. But Clow(n) land seems to be really holding you tight. Not so tight as things apparently over in Eric Dumbshitz land. > Look, the fact is that a cheap laptop isn't going to hack it. Even David > Fenton agrees. And just ba

Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?

2011-05-23 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Actually, no. But Clow(n) land seems to be really holding you tight. Look, the fact is that a cheap laptop isn't going to hack it. Even David Fenton agrees. And just bashing Apple products just shows ignorance on your part. -- Eric Dannewitz Musician/Polymath On Monday, May 23, 2011 at 8:00 PM

Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?

2011-05-23 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 10:42 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > Really? You can't use Google? Or check CNet? Check Amazon (3 of the top 5 are > Apple Laptops, 5 of the top 10 are iMacs)? Or even check Consumer Reports? > > The evidence is out there.plain as day. They make excellent hardware. > #

Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?

2011-05-23 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Really? You can't use Google? Or check CNet? Check Amazon (3 of the top 5 are Apple Laptops, 5 of the top 10 are iMacs)? Or even check Consumer Reports? The evidence is out there.plain as day. They make excellent hardware. #1-3 in Desktops on Amazon are held by Apple products. Point Game Ma

Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?

2011-05-23 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > Sure it's not clown pie? That link is really old.they mention PowerBooks? > But it's more recent than any of your links, Oh wait, you haven't provided anything other than your personal stories, and that great extended Apple warranty.

Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?

2011-05-23 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Sent from my iSomething On May 23, 2011, at 3:11 PM, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: So your point about Apple's limited warranty and offering extended coverage isn't any better than PC has no bearing on anything? Ok, great. Moving on. What? I'm

Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?

2011-05-23 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Sure it's not clown pie? That link is really old.they mention PowerBooks? And that's the only one you can reference? Hardly convincing Sent from my iSomething On May 23, 2011, at 3:30 PM, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: > On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: >> Whatever he is ea

Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?

2011-05-23 Thread Eric Dannewitz
What, not having any clown pie? The iMacs display is really really nice for finale... Sent from my iSomething On May 23, 2011, at 3:35 PM, Matthew Hindson Gma wrote: > Me too. I have a 27" iMac with a 2nd 24" monitor attached in portrait mode. > Worth every cent. Screen real estate is gold an

Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?

2011-05-23 Thread Matthew Hindson Gma
Me too. I have a 27" iMac with a 2nd 24" monitor attached in portrait mode. Worth every cent. Screen real estate is gold and improves productivity substantially. I have a laptop at work and it's almost painful in comparison. Matthew Sent from my iPhone On 24/05/2011, at 5:22 AM, Chuck Isr

Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?

2011-05-23 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Wow.hell has frozen over ;-) You speak the truth sir. Sent from my iSomething On May 23, 2011, at 2:08 PM, "David W. Fenton" wrote: > On 23 May 2011 at 13:53, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > >> But that's no a real good point. You then have several boat anchors >> (ie old hardware) around, plus yo

Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?

2011-05-23 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > Whatever he is eating/smoking I want some. I haven't seen anything > remotely close to what you'd get with a stock MacBook. > Old link, but still pertinent: http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-10442_7-6511774-10.html?tag=rb_content;rb_mtx And t

Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?

2011-05-23 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > Sent from my iSomething > > On May 23, 2011, at 2:10 PM, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: > >> Right, so Apple's limited warranty isn't any better than a standard >> PC, and like them-- you can buy an extended warranty. But that's swell >> of Apple

Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?

2011-05-23 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Whatever he is eating/smoking I want some. I haven't seen anything remotely close to what you'd get with a stock MacBook. Sent from my iSomething On May 23, 2011, at 2:18 PM, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: > But you're not getting the same thing for $300 that you would if you > pad $800 for a Mac -- i

Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?

2011-05-23 Thread Eric Dannewitz
If not RAID 1 (mirroring for those who don't know what it is), then at least an external drive to backup Daily to and/or a subscription to something like crashplan. In this digital age you really can't afford to NOT to have a backup plan. Though RAID1 won't keep you safe from accidental deletion o

Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?

2011-05-23 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Sent from my iSomething On May 23, 2011, at 2:10 PM, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: > Right, so Apple's limited warranty isn't any better than a standard > PC, and like them-- you can buy an extended warranty. But that's swell > of Apple to offer limited warranties on their products. And the point > fo

Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?

2011-05-23 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
But you're not getting the same thing for $300 that you would if you pad $800 for a Mac -- if you configured a Windows PC with comparable specifications as the $800 Mac, it will cost about $800, too (and in many cases, it will cost MORE). Not in this case, really. I'm way ahead of you on this one.

Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?

2011-05-23 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > But that's no a real good point. You then have several boat anchors (ie old > hardware) around, plus you have all the migration problems of getting your > old files and software to new machines. Yeah, that's incredibly hard work! Most Fi

Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?

2011-05-23 Thread David W. Fenton
On 23 May 2011 at 13:53, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > But that's no a real good point. You then have several boat anchors > (ie old hardware) around, plus you have all the migration problems of > getting your old files and software to new machines. Eric and I hardly ever agree on anything at all, but

Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?

2011-05-23 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > There is a lot to consider here. Bigger screen doesn't mean better. You want > a good, high resolution screen. Not just a bigger screen. It could be 19" but > with a crappy display resolution. > > Blu Ray DVD? So now we are looking at ente

Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?

2011-05-23 Thread David W. Fenton
On 23 May 2011 at 14:44, Lee Dengler wrote: > Any suggestions would greatly appreciated. It's difficult to recommend brands any more as so many of the top nameplates just don't have good quality any longer. I still recommend Dell desktops to my clients and haven't had any significant problems

Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?

2011-05-23 Thread David W. Fenton
On 23 May 2011 at 15:29, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: > I got a top notch laptop via their website for > 300.00. It may have been a really good value, but it wasn't a "top-notch laptop". -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/

Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?

2011-05-23 Thread Eric Dannewitz
But that's no a real good point. You then have several boat anchors (ie old hardware) around, plus you have all the migration problems of getting your old files and software to new machines. So if I spend $999 to get a MacBook, I could have gotten 2 1/2 $300 special windows computers? That is "

Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?

2011-05-23 Thread Eric Dannewitz
There is a lot to consider here. Bigger screen doesn't mean better. You want a good, high resolution screen. Not just a bigger screen. It could be 19" but with a crappy display resolution. Blu Ray DVD? So now we are looking at entertainment machines? I don't think you'd have an actual BluRay bu

Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?

2011-05-23 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > Though I don't see how a $300 laptop is going to be able to "grow" for a few > years. Nor how it will handle playing back good quality sounds (NOT the > Finale Software synth sounds, but more like the Garritan sounds) > > I'd still say som

Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?

2011-05-23 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: > That's what I think too.  I have a 27" iMac, and it is satisfying and trouble > free.  A little extra RAM can help.  (Full disclosure - I've always used Macs > and have little experience with Windows.  Still, I am confident in giving > thi

Re: [Finale] Playback Problem after Pizzicato

2011-05-23 Thread Darcy James Argue
Turn Human Playback on and use pizz. and arco expressions that are NOT defined for playback. HP will catch your "pizz." and "arco" expressions and interpret accordingly. Keep in mind that pizz. volume for GPO strings is absurdly loud, so you will have to use hidden dynamics if you want realisti

Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?

2011-05-23 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Though I don't see how a $300 laptop is going to be able to "grow" for a few years. Nor how it will handle playing back good quality sounds (NOT the Finale Software synth sounds, but more like the Garritan sounds) I'd still say some sort of Mac. iMac for desktop, or a laptop. Plus they can driv

Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?

2011-05-23 Thread Chuck Israels
That's what I think too. I have a 27" iMac, and it is satisfying and trouble free. A little extra RAM can help. (Full disclosure - I've always used Macs and have little experience with Windows. Still, I am confident in giving this recommendation.) Chuck On May 23, 2011, at 12:10 PM, Eric

Re: [Finale] Playback Problem after Pizzicato

2011-05-23 Thread Michael Lawlor
Noel, Sorry for not being clear enough. The pizz. was taken from the default set, but since I could not find an arco to counteract this, I set up my own. What playback parameters should I create for this? I have found it confusing because there are the parameters that work the "old" way and t

Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?

2011-05-23 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
> I need to purchase a new desktop computer.  I am running Finale 2010 Windows > at the present and will likely upgrade to 2012 when it comes out.  I engrave > full orchestrations and want to be able to play any and all of the sounds. > I also want something that I will not outgrow in a few years.

Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?

2011-05-23 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Get an iMac. -- Eric Dannewitz Musician/Polymath On Monday, May 23, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Lee Dengler wrote: > Hi All, > > I need to purchase a new desktop computer. I am running Finale 2010 Windows > at the present and will likely upgrade to 2012 when it comes out. I engrave > full orchestrations

[Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?

2011-05-23 Thread Lee Dengler
Hi All, I need to purchase a new desktop computer. I am running Finale 2010 Windows at the present and will likely upgrade to 2012 when it comes out. I engrave full orchestrations and want to be able to play any and all of the sounds. I also want something that I will not outgrow in a few years.