Re: [Finale] Tenor-singers Clefs Discussion wrapup

2011-09-17 Thread Phil Daley
At 9/16/2011 11:56 PM, John Howell wrote: By rights we should require good sightreading as a prerequisite before we accepted any student as a college music major, but if we actually did that we wouldn't have any voice majors at all (except the smart ones, many of whom started taking piano

Re: [Finale] EPS export from F2010 is black in MS word

2011-09-17 Thread SN jef chippewa
the degradation in image quality in word is remarkable, i just did what you suggested and don't think there is any way this could be better than the 1200 ppi tiffs. i generated a PDF of an image from graphic converter to PDF and printed that (to paper); inserted the PDF at 100% in a word doc

Re: [Finale] Tenor-singers Clefs Discussion wrapup

2011-09-17 Thread David H. Bailey
On 9/17/2011 7:23 AM, Phil Daley wrote: At 9/16/2011 11:56 PM, John Howell wrote: By rights we should require good sightreading as a prerequisite before we accepted any student as a college music major, but if we actually did that we wouldn't have any voice majors at all (except

Re: [Finale] EPS export from F2010 is black in MS word

2011-09-17 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Jef, What version of Word are you using? I remember Office 2004 for Mac being particularly bad about image quality. Anyway, Apple's Pages application will import your existing Word file (and even save in Word format, if that's important), and also allow you to place PDFs without any image

Re: [Finale] EPS export from F2010 is black in MS word

2011-09-17 Thread SN jef chippewa
I always print to Adobe pdf printer driver (include fonts), open in Acrobat, crop, save as EPS, import into Word. It shows as rough tif preview graphic on screen but prints fine. yes this works fantastic! and the print quality is excellent (even though the PDF i generated from finale is 150

Re: [Finale] EPS export from F2010 is black in MS word

2011-09-17 Thread SN jef chippewa
What version of Word are you using? I remember Office 2004 for Mac being particularly bad about image quality. aha! bingo. 11.2 (2004) Anyway, Apple's Pages application will import your existing Word file (and even save in Word format, if that's important), and also allow you to place PDFs

Re: [Finale] EPS export from F2010 is black in MS word

2011-09-17 Thread Richard Yates
so i think your solution is the best i have come across, but it just seems stupid that FIN-PDF-EPS-MS gets higher quality and better functionality than FIN-EPS-MS. You are right, of course, but for years nothing at all worked so I am still thrilled there is a way!

Re: [Finale] EPS export from F2010 is black in MS word

2011-09-17 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Jef, Pages is a really excellent app. I use it exclusively and the Word import/export does the trick (for my purposes, at least). Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 17 Sep 2011, at 8:31 AM, SN jef chippewa wrote: What version of Word are you using? I

Re: [Finale] EPS export from F2010 is black in MS word

2011-09-17 Thread Christopher Smith
Darcy, I've just changed over to Pages. I am still feeling my way around it, but so far love the PDF import for examples. My problem is what to do with examples that take up a whole page, or several pages. Should I import them one page at a time? They won't be pushed forward a page if I ever

Re: [Finale] Tenor-singers Clefs Discussion wrapup

2011-09-17 Thread Steve Larsen
Since the discussion has veered off into discussion of piccolos, octave transpositions and ledger lines, I thought I'd share a nugget about piccolo and flute writing. All those ledger lines are tough to read, at least for the rest of us mortals who don't play flute or picc. But they're used to

Re: [Finale] Tenor-singers Clefs Discussion wrapup

2011-09-17 Thread John Howell
At 7:23 AM -0400 9/17/11, Phil Daley wrote: At 9/16/2011 11:56 PM, John Howell wrote: By rights we should require good sightreading as a prerequisite before we accepted any student as a college music major, but if we actually did that we wouldn't have any voice majors at all (except the

Re: [Finale] EPS export from F2010 is black in MS word

2011-09-17 Thread SN jef chippewa
ok, will look into it, am convinced to take the time now. just need to find the damn iWork installation discs. thanks, jef Pages is a really excellent app. I use it exclusively and the Word import/export does the trick (for my purposes, at least).

Re: [Finale] Tenor-singers Clefs Discussion wrapup

2011-09-17 Thread John Howell
At 12:34 PM -0500 9/17/11, Steve Larsen wrote: My own practice is to use the 8va sign in scores when necessary, but to restore the part to its proper octave when extracting. And that just makes good sense. And save space in the score, where things are more crowded already. Another pet peeve

Re: [Finale] Tenor-singers Clefs Discussion wrapup

2011-09-17 Thread David W. Fenton
On 16 Sep 2011 at 23:56, John Howell wrote: By rights we should require good sightreading as a prerequisite before we accepted any student as a college music major, but if we actually did that we wouldn't have any voice majors at all (except the smart ones, many of whom started taking

Re: [Finale] Tenor-singers Clefs Discussion wrapup

2011-09-17 Thread John Howell
On 16 Sep 2011 at 11:18, Patrick Sheehan wrote: News flash: We all have to deal with reading multiple ledger lines (pianists, flutists, violinists). Don't complain about ledger lines; learn to read them and be comfortable! We don't have a staff that has 10 lines, only 5. Actually that

Re: [Finale] Tenor-singers Clefs Discussion wrapup

2011-09-17 Thread Aaron Rabushka
And dont' forget those of us who simply don't want to count (and in olden times draw) the leger lines. Aaron J. Rabushka arabus...@austin.rr.com - Original Message - From: John Howell john.how...@vt.edu To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [Finale]

Re: [Finale] EPS export from F2010 is black in MS word

2011-09-17 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Chris, Pages has options to control whether images (even large, full-page images) are in-line and move with the text (in which case they *will* be pushed forward), or are attached to the page. Basically, if you want it to be in-line, make sure there's a flashing insertion point before you

Re: [Finale] Tenor-singers Clefs Discussion wrapup

2011-09-17 Thread Mark D Lew
On Sep 16, 2011, at 9:18 AM, Patrick Sheehan wrote: Someone mentioned that the Treble8 clef for tenors much like a transposing instrument. Correct! In this sense, the tenors are reading treble clef notes but what's coming out of their throat is an octave lower, plus they have to think that

Re: [Finale] attacca, segue

2011-09-17 Thread Mark D Lew
On Jul 22, 2011, at 3:43 AM, David H. Bailey wrote: Attacca literally means attacks (as in attack the next song immediately) This is an old post, but as I'm cleaning out my Finale mailbox I'd like to point out that attacca does NOT literally mean attack. Attaccare is to connect, to join. The

[Finale] Fin08 Crash when inserting measure stacks

2011-09-17 Thread Robert Patterson
I have a file that consistently crashes when I try to insert new bars early in the piece. Does anyone else have any experience with this? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Fin08 Crash when inserting measure stacks

2011-09-17 Thread JRB
I do remember that bug. Oddly, the workaround was to insert way more measures than you need - like 30 or more. Once it doesn't crash you can safely delete the extra bars. JB Sent from my iPhone using my thumbs w/out a spellchecker On Sep 17, 2011, at 12:57 PM, Robert Patterson

Re: [Finale] attacca, segue

2011-09-17 Thread David McKay
Makes some sense of why John Williams called his band Attacca Thanks! David McKay Sent from my iPhone On 18/09/2011, at 6:23 AM, Mark D Lew markd...@earthlink.net wrote: On Jul 22, 2011, at 3:43 AM, David H. Bailey wrote: Attacca literally means attacks (as in attack the next song

Re: [Finale] Tenor-singers Clefs Discussion wrapup

2011-09-17 Thread John Howell
At 1:00 PM -0700 9/17/11, Mark D Lew wrote: On Sep 16, 2011, at 9:18 AM, Patrick Sheehan wrote: Someone mentioned that the Treble8 clef for tenors much like a transposing instrument. Correct! In this sense, the tenors are reading treble clef notes but what's coming out of their throat is

Re: [Finale] Fin08 Crash when inserting measure stacks

2011-09-17 Thread Christopher Smith
Yes. My solution is to copy and paste the entire work a bar later, erase the redundant bar 1, and fill with content as needed. I don't know why it happens. It is inconsistent. I assumed it was file corruption. Christopher On Sat Sep 17, at SaturdaySep 17 3:57 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: I

Re: [Finale] EPS export from F2010 is black in MS word

2011-09-17 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Jef, You can just buy it from the App Store, or download it from Apple's website. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 17 Sep 2011, at 2:01 PM, SN jef chippewa wrote: ok, will look into it, am convinced to take the time now. just need to find the damn iWork