[Finale] Stem direction [was: Re: FREE ASCAP Composer Career Workshop in Nashville]

2015-08-31 Thread David H. Bailey
On 8/31/2015 4:44 AM, Philip Brink wrote: > I have a problem a bit different from the formatting and oversize concerns > of late. I am making a special edition of the trombone section parts from > the Ring of the Nibelung. Most of the work is straightforward and doesn't > present a problem.

Re: [Finale] stem direction in linked parts with voices

2011-11-17 Thread Ryan
That is checked. What I needed to check was Ignore Layers Containing Only Hidden Notes. But, the ties are still flipped in the wrong direction. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 4:54 PM, Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.ca wrote: Make sure Layer 2 is set to only switch stem directions when

[Finale] stem direction in linked parts with voices

2011-11-17 Thread Jonathan Smith
Hi Ryan, Here's my set up that's works well for any two parts on one stave. In Document Options select Layers. Layer 1 check ONLY these items: Freeze stems ties (Freeze stems up) Freeze ties in same direction as stems Adjust floating rests by 6 steps Apply adjustments only if notes are in

[Finale] stem direction in linked parts with voices

2011-11-16 Thread Ryan
Trying to solve a mystery with linked parts with voices. A part voicing is specified to show Layer 2 when more than one layer is present. How do I get the stem direction to show correctly on the linked part? The stems are all downward, even though the notes are at the bottom of the staff. Finale

Re: [Finale] stem direction in linked parts with voices

2011-11-16 Thread Michael Mathew
a solution, also. Michael  mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com http://www.musicengravers.com/cgi-bin/engravers.pl http://oregonmts.com/mathew/ From: Ryan ry.squa...@gmail.com To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 4:09 PM Subject: [Finale] stem direction

Re: [Finale] stem direction in linked parts with voices

2011-11-16 Thread Christopher Smith
Make sure Layer 2 is set to only switch stem directions when there are items in other layers. This should show up correctly in the part. If it doesn't, maybe stems were flipped manually (L) or there is file corruption. Christopher On Wed Nov 16, at WednesdayNov 16 7:09 PM, Ryan wrote:

Re: [Finale] stem direction question

2010-01-27 Thread Richard Huggins
If you're not otherwise bound by some editorial edict you could use tied quarter notes across the three beats. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 27, 2010, at 4:44 AM, dc den...@free.fr wrote: Say you have three voices on one staff, as in the first bars (left hand), of the Goldbergs (see link to

Re: [Finale] stem direction question

2010-01-27 Thread Richard Huggins
If you must have three distinct voices, using Goldberg as an example, Im not aware of a rule governing the stem of the third note. My point was that you coould have a G on beat one, a G-B on beat 2, and a G-B-D on beat 3, with Gs and Bs tied. If a pianist played the Goldberg acc to the example

Re: [Finale] stem direction question

2010-01-27 Thread Christopher Smith
There is no rule as far as I know, but I would have thought legibility would be improved by having the stems in the middle voice down, so as not to have to avoid a collision with the rest on beat 2. In the last measure though, the stem should be up, otherwise there would be a collision

RE: [Finale] stem direction question

2010-01-27 Thread Richard Yates
I frequently run into this situation in guitar music. I have never found a rule for the stem direction of the middle stems and so always point the stems to best minimize confusion caused by wrongly reading the notes of two voices with stems in the same direction as one voice (and not adding up

Re: [Finale] stem direction question

2010-01-27 Thread Barbara Touburg
dc wrote: Say you have three voices on one staff, as in the first bars (left hand), of the Goldbergs (see link to scan below). Assuming the upper voice has all its stems upwards, the lower voice all stems downwards, what is the rule for the middle part? What you coud do, is notate the three

Re: [Finale] stem direction question

2010-01-27 Thread Harold Owen
Dennis writes: Say you have three voices on one staff, as in the first bars (left hand), of the Goldbergs (see link to scan below). Assuming the upper voice has all its stems upwards, the lower voice all stems downwards, what is the rule for the middle part?

[Finale] stem direction

2009-01-02 Thread Lawrence David Eden
Currently suffering from a brain freeze: How do I change the stem direction on a single note? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

RE: [Finale] stem direction

2009-01-02 Thread Richard Yates
Speedy, L -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Lawrence David Eden Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 7:24 AM To: FinaleList Subject: [Finale] stem direction Currently suffering from a brain freeze: How do I change the stem

Re: [Finale] stem direction

2009-01-02 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
In Finale 2006 it's: tools-advanced tools - special tools - stem direction. But I'm sure there's a much simpler, quicker way but i can' remember it either. Cheers lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] stem direction

2009-01-02 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
In a message dated 02/01/2009 15:38:40 GMT Standard Time, rich...@yatesguitar.com writes: Speedy, L That's the one!!! lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] stem direction

2009-01-02 Thread Jón Kristinn Cortez
On 2.1.2009, at 15:24, Lawrence David Eden wrote: Currently suffering from a brain freeze: How do I change the stem direction on a single note? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Speedy Entry /

[Finale] stem direction for grace notes?

2007-12-03 Thread Raimund Lintzen
What is the rule for stem direction when a single (8th) grace note (flag not crossed) preceed a note: Is there a fixed rile for stem direction? Thank you for helping! Raimund Lintzen ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] stem direction for grace notes?

2007-12-03 Thread dhbailey
Raimund Lintzen wrote: What is the rule for stem direction when a single (8th) grace note (flag not crossed) preceed a note: Is there a fixed rile for stem direction? Thank you for helping! I don't think there's any hard-and-fast rule. I seem to recall seeing grace note stems mostly

Re: [Finale] stem direction for grace notes?

2007-12-03 Thread Jack Ellis
: dhbaileymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edumailto:finale@shsu.edu Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] stem direction for grace notes? Raimund Lintzen wrote: What is the rule for stem direction when a single (8th) grace note (flag

Re: [Finale] stem direction for grace notes?

2007-12-03 Thread John Howell
At 5:55 PM +0100 12/3/07, Raimund Lintzen wrote: What is the rule for stem direction when a single (8th) grace note (flag not crossed) If the flag is not crossed it would be an appoggiatura rather than a grace note. And I would put the stem up by instinct, although I don't know any rule

[Finale] Stem direction?

2007-07-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I also can't find anything about changing stem direction. I have a vocal part that splits the soprano and the chords must show stems as up and down, but I can't find anything that refers to stem direction settings. ___ Finale mailing list

RE: [Finale] Stem direction?

2007-07-12 Thread Williams, Jim
In 2008, DOCUMENT OPTIONSLAYERS is where you need to look. Set the options as you want them. Jim From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 12-Jul-07 15:52 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] Stem direction? I also can't find anything about changing stem direction. I have a vocal part

Re: [Finale] Stem direction?

2007-07-12 Thread arabushk
I also can't find anything about changing stem direction. I have a vocal part that splits the soprano and the chords must show stems as up and down, but I can't find anything that refers to stem direction settings. ___ Finale mailing list

[Finale] Stem direction?

2007-07-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks for the replies. I did finally find the info in the QuickRef book, but a search of the PDF help doc showed nothing about stems and I find the tutorial method in the booklet to be very unhelpful: I don't work the way the author works, I don't have the same needs as he/she when I

Re: [Finale] Stem direction

2004-09-08 Thread Christopher Smith
On Sep 7, 2004, at 11:41 PM, Raymond Horton wrote: To reopen an old can of worms, orchestral string sections divide nearly everything, even passages marked as double stops, to get maximum sound and best intonation. So, generally, don't sweat the notation to differentiate. The players don't.

Re: [Finale] Stem direction

2004-09-08 Thread dumusic
I add my voice to this discussion. Dividing double stops is usually not done to improve intonation. It is an axiom that the string player never really plays in tune until mastering double-stops. When the player sounds both pitches they not only hear the correct temperament, they feel it.

Re: [Finale] Stem direction

2004-09-08 Thread Owain Sutton
This work contains many other instances of double-stops that need to be played by each player for the above mentioned reason of resonance. This observation is spot-on. It is a simple fact that the timbre of double stops is completely different to single stops on multiple instruments.

Re: [Finale] Stem direction

2004-09-08 Thread Andrew Stiller
Owain: a pet peeve of mine is string players' belief that they can overrule a composer's explicit indications at will. Quite how somebody interprets sul G as sul G until you don't like it very much, or until you get above 4th position, and then do whatever you want is beyond me. Not just

[Finale] Stem direction

2004-09-07 Thread D. Keneth Fowler
To the wisdom of the list, FinWin 2004b. Full score for anthem with instrumental accompaniment. Question regards handling stems in the wind parts: Flutes 1 and 2, Clarinets 1 and 2, Horns 1 and 2. In each case 1 and 2 share the same staff. At the moment I have set two stems in opposing

Re: [Finale] Stem direction

2004-09-07 Thread Owain Sutton
D. Keneth Fowler wrote: To the wisdom of the list, FinWin 2004b. Full score for anthem with instrumental accompaniment. Question regards handling stems in the wind parts: Flutes 1 and 2, Clarinets 1 and 2, Horns 1 and 2. In each case 1 and 2 share the same staff. At the moment I have set two

Re: [Finale] Stem direction

2004-09-07 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 13:59:42 -0400, D. Keneth Fowler wrote: Using one stem where rhythms are identical is less busy and seems to offer added open space between staves. For each pair the rhythm is the same, except for several short rhythmically independent moments. Does common practice call

Re: [Finale] Stem direction

2004-09-07 Thread Owain Sutton
Oh, and as a side note: Vocal staves should never share stems (Stone, Music Notation in the Twentieth Century, p. 165). I wish this was also common practice for divisi string parts, to clearly distinguish them from double stops. Alas, it isn't the case, and things get played wrongly as a

Re: [Finale] Stem direction

2004-09-07 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:29 PM 9/7/04 -0700, Brad Beyenhof wrote: There seems to be a clear way of notating any possible outcome; perhaps this method is not held to very widely among composers? Or if it is, is it possible that string players themselves are not well-versed with the convention? If my recent piece is

[Finale] Stem direction

2004-09-07 Thread D. Keneth Fowler
Owain and Brad, Thank you for your replies. You both have been immensely helpful. There is no divisi in the strings and separate staves for SATB easily fit on the page. I never thought to check Gardner Read. And the book was right there on the shelf in plain sight. Where would I be without

Re: [Finale] Stem direction

2004-09-07 Thread Raymond Horton
To reopen an old can of worms, orchestral string sections divide nearly everything, even passages marked as double stops, to get maximum sound and best intonation. So, generally, don't sweat the notation to differentiate. The players don't. Even chamber groups will do this. I once observed

Re: [Finale] Stem direction

2004-09-07 Thread Mark D Lew
On Sep 7, 2004, at 11:39 AM, Brad Beyenhof wrote: Oh, and as a side note: Vocal staves should never share stems (Stone, Music Notation in the Twentieth Century, p. 165). Don't know what Stone means by vocal staves, but if you're writing SATB on two staves in hymnbook style, sharing stems is

Re: [Finale] Stem direction

2004-09-07 Thread Owain Sutton
Raymond Horton wrote: To reopen an old can of worms, orchestral string sections divide nearly everything, even passages marked as double stops, to get maximum sound and best intonation. So, generally, don't sweat the notation to differentiate. The players don't. I've never ever come across

[Finale] Stem direction change

2004-05-19 Thread David McKay
Can anyone tell me how to make an extracted part's stem direction revert to normal convention, please? David McKay davidDOTmckayATozemailDOTcomDOTau http://members.ozemail.com.au/~musicke ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Finale] Stem direction change

2004-05-19 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On 5/19/04 3:57 PM, David McKay wrote: Can anyone tell me how to make an extracted part's stem direction revert to normal convention, please? Mass Edit tool, Select All, then Mass Edit Utilities Remove Stem Changes -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED]