Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not...

2016-07-16 Thread Robert Patterson
With mine you have to drop the System_7.5.3 file on the smiling Mac. When MM released it in 2009 this was not necessary, but now (at least for me) it is. On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: > Am 15.07.16 um 09:51 schrieb Dr. Raphael D. Thöne: > > The fhv.file is the Start Di

Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not...

2016-07-16 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Am 15.07.16 um 09:51 schrieb Dr. Raphael D. Thöne: > The fhv.file is the Start Disk for the Mini vMac. > But it isn't loading. Where should it be? right now, the folder includes: Mini vMac System_7.5.3.hfv Mini vMac.exe vMac.ROM (it is called hfv, not fhv, is that the problem? I didn't rename an

Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not...

2016-07-15 Thread Dr . Raphael D . Thöne
The fhv.file is the Start Disk for the Mini vMac. > Am 15.07.2016 um 09:48 schrieb Johannes Gebauer : > > Am 14.07.16 um 19:02 schrieb Aaron Sherber: >> Here's a copy: http://aaron.sherber.com/files/vMacFinale.zip > > Just out of interest, what would I have to do to get this running on a > Mac?

Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not...

2016-07-15 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Am 14.07.16 um 19:02 schrieb Aaron Sherber: > Here's a copy: http://aaron.sherber.com/files/vMacFinale.zip Just out of interest, what would I have to do to get this running on a Mac? (I have downloaded the Mini vMac and put it into the same folder, but I get the disk symbol with the question mar

Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not...

2016-07-14 Thread Brian Appleby
In 1988 or 89 two friends and I wangled NAMM passes through a local music store in Edmonton. We had been using DMCS and Professional Composer and getting frustrated with their limitations and bugs. We were hanging around a booth, might have been MOTU, when a guy approached us and asked if we w

Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not...

2016-07-14 Thread Aaron Sherber
Here's a copy: http://aaron.sherber.com/files/vMacFinale.zip Aaron. On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Robert Patterson < rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote: > I have searched high and low and can't find a download link for the Finale > 1.0 emulator. It uses the mac emulator Mini vMac >

Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not...

2016-07-14 Thread Robert Patterson
I have searched high and low and can't find a download link for the Finale 1.0 emulator. It uses the mac emulator Mini vMac , which is available for both macOS and Windows (as well as Linux). In researching this, I am intrigued to discover that Mini vMac is acti

Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not...

2016-07-14 Thread Kenneth Moore
On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 19:16:11, Johannes Gebauer wrote: >I am wondering whether I should upgrade my ancient version of Finale >(2k9) to the current. and, on Tue, 12 Jul 2016 21:26:07: > How is compatibility with older files? I have recently taken files from F2000 and even earlier into F2014 (Wi

Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not...

2016-07-13 Thread dershem
On 7/13/2016 8:18 PM, Mark D Lew wrote: > In the late 1980s I played around with Lime. I liked Lime in its > general structure and approach, but it was limited. > > The first version of Finale I used was version 2-point-something, > which I borrowed from a cousin. It wasn’t long before I knew I >

Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not...

2016-07-13 Thread Mark D Lew
In the late 1980s I played around with Lime. I liked Lime in its general structure and approach, but it was limited. The first version of Finale I used was version 2-point-something, which I borrowed from a cousin. It wasn’t long before I knew I wanted it, so I bought my own and started with

Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not...

2016-07-13 Thread David H. Bailey
On 7/13/2016 12:49 PM, Ryan wrote: > MusicPrinter Plus! Wow, I haven't thought about that in a long time. I used > that all the way up until 1996! > [snip] That's about when I moved to Finale. Version 3.5 was my first Finale version. -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com http:

Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not...

2016-07-13 Thread Williams, Jim
Raphael, Jack's then-colleague at berklee, Greg Fritze, told me about MP+, and I then permanently lost my left-handed osmiroid, all my Scripto K780s, and the Not-a-Set pages. ;-) Jim Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos. > On Jul 13, 2016, at 3:12 PM, Dr. Raphael D. Thöne > wr

Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not...

2016-07-13 Thread Dr . Raphael D . Thöne
Could you please give me that download link for Finale 1.0? > Am 13.07.2016 um 19:30 schrieb Robert Patterson : > > I started with Finale 1.0, preordering it before it was actually available. > Don't ask me how much it cost. >>shudder<< (You other 1.0 users know > exactly how much!) > > Before th

Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not...

2016-07-13 Thread Dr . Raphael D . Thöne
My composition teacher at Berklee, Jack Jarrett, wrote MusicPrinterPlus…. and later developed Notion, at least until Version 3…. he is still using MusicPrinterPlus... > Am 13.07.2016 um 18:49 schrieb Ryan : > > MusicPrinter Plus! Wow, I haven't thought about that in a long time. I used > that a

Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not...

2016-07-13 Thread Williams, Jim
u > Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 1:28 PM > Subject: Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not... > > Another since-v.1 user here. Prior to that, I tried using MOTU Professional > Composer. I still have a score that used MOTU for notes only, and I drew in > slurs, dynamics, articulati

Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not...

2016-07-13 Thread GERALD BERG
, July 13, 2016 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not... Another since-v.1 user here. Prior to that, I tried using MOTU Professional Composer. I still have a score that used MOTU for notes only, and I drew in slurs, dynamics, articulations by hand (which I was OK with because I’m of

Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not...

2016-07-13 Thread Jón Kristinn Cortez
I was using (HB) Music Engraver on Mac SE when I saw the ad for Finale 1. The price was $1.000! I had to save up and got Finale 2.0.6 and have had nearly all upgrades since. Oldest file now on my computer is Finale 3.0.1r11. Opens fine in Finale 2014d. Cortez > On 13. júl. 2016, at 17:30, Rob

Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not...

2016-07-13 Thread Robert Patterson
I started with Finale 1.0, preordering it before it was actually available. Don't ask me how much it cost. >>shudder<< (You other 1.0 users know exactly how much!) Before that I was using Deluxe Music Construction Set and ProCo. For the twentieth anniversary (F09 I believe), MM released a standal

Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not...

2016-07-13 Thread David Froom
Another since-v.1 user here. Prior to that, I tried using MOTU Professional Composer. I still have a score that used MOTU for notes only, and I drew in slurs, dynamics, articulations by hand (which I was OK with because I’m of the generation that had a Pelikan fountain pen with a music nib, a se

Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not...

2016-07-13 Thread Ryan
MusicPrinter Plus! Wow, I haven't thought about that in a long time. I used that all the way up until 1996! On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Williams, Jim < jwilli...@franklincollege.edu> wrote: > Same as Dennis here--around 1989, quit MusicPrinter plus and got Finale > 2.x for my 386 computer .

Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not...

2016-07-13 Thread Williams, Jim
Same as Dennis here--around 1989, quit MusicPrinter plus and got Finale 2.x for my 386 computer . Strayed a couple of times along the way and now 80% Finale, 20% Sibelius. Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos. > On Jul 13, 2016, at 12:39 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz > wrote: > >>

Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not...

2016-07-13 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Wed, July 13, 2016 12:35 pm, Chuck Israels wrote: > Don’t know if there are others here with the same history, but I have used > Finale since v.1.0. Nevertheless, there are a number of others whose > knowledge of the program runs considerably deeper than mine, including the > always reliable Ch

Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not...

2016-07-13 Thread Chuck Israels
Don’t know if there are others here with the same history, but I have used Finale since v.1.0. Nevertheless, there are a number of others whose knowledge of the program runs considerably deeper than mine, including the always reliable Christopher Smith. Chuck > On Jul 13, 2016, at 9:02 AM, D

Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not...

2016-07-13 Thread Dr . Raphael D . Thöne
How long have you been a Finale user? 1993? Wow… impressive. > Am 13.07.2016 um 17:50 schrieb Dennis Bathory-Kitsz : > > Found a Finale 2.2 file from 1993. Conversion to 2014.5 was flawless. > > Dennis > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.ed

Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not...

2016-07-13 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
Found a Finale 2.2 file from 1993. Conversion to 2014.5 was flawless. Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not...

2016-07-13 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Wed, July 13, 2016 11:32 am, Robert Patterson wrote: > F14.5 opens any legacy file, including Fin09. How well the conversion works > may depending on saves in intermediate versions, but short of possible > Adobe PS Type 1 font encoding issues, I don't imagine Johannes will see any > significant

Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not...

2016-07-13 Thread Robert Patterson
F14.5 opens any legacy file, including Fin09. How well the conversion works may depending on saves in intermediate versions, but short of possible Adobe PS Type 1 font encoding issues, I don't imagine Johannes will see any significant issues upgrading a F09 file. What you may be thinking of is tha

Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not...

2016-07-13 Thread Dr . Raphael D . Thöne
To my knowledge, F2014 opens F2012-files directly and without hesitation… > Am 13.07.2016 um 17:11 schrieb Dick Hauser : > > I’m hoping others can confirm my memory on upgrades. It’s my understanding > that F12 is the compatibility link between the post 12 version database > structure and the

Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not...

2016-07-13 Thread Dick Hauser
I’m hoping others can confirm my memory on upgrades. It’s my understanding that F12 is the compatibility link between the post 12 version database structure and the legacy versions. That is, F14 won’t open an F09 file directly. The process to bring forward legacy files is to open and save fro

Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not...

2016-07-13 Thread Robert Patterson
I know Fin12 has issues with playback and some of the dialog boxes crash in 10.11. I have no experience with Fin09. Fin08 crashes on startup, which is why I need my virtual. At some point Apple will make 64-bit mandatory by dropping 32-bit runtime support. That day may be coming sooner than later.

Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not...

2016-07-13 Thread Bill Baker
On July 12, 2016 at 1:16:37 PM, Johannes Gebauer ([1]li...@musikmanufaktur.com) wrote: I am wondering whether I should upgrade my ancient version of Finale (2k9) to the current. Can someone outline in some brief words what I will gain apart from retina support (which may well be worth it just by

Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not...

2016-07-13 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Am 12.07.16 um 22:05 schrieb Robert Patterson: > Personally, though, I would recommend setting up a virtual 10.7 or > thereabouts using Fusion or Parallels, and keeping Fin09 alive that way. It > sidesteps the entire upgrade issue. 2k9 seems to work with 10.11.5, are there any issues I should be a

Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not...

2016-07-12 Thread Robert Patterson
I don't know if Makemusic has announced whether the 64-bit version will be a paid upgrade. I would not be surprised if it were, however. I don't think you'll encounter any significant issues upgrading Fin09 files. The one caution I would mention is if you use any Adobe PS Type 1 fonts. If so, you

Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not...

2016-07-12 Thread Ryan
Supposed to be available in the Fall. On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Johannes Gebauer < li...@musikmanufaktur.com> wrote: > Am 12.07.16 um 20:04 schrieb Robert Patterson: > > I'm sure there are other improvements, but I can't call them to mind at > the > > moment. Having said that, I think you

Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not...

2016-07-12 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Am 12.07.16 um 20:04 schrieb Robert Patterson: > I'm sure there are other improvements, but I can't call them to mind at the > moment. Having said that, I think you should wait for the 64-bit version > before you upgrade, unless you absolutely have to run on an outdated Mac OS. > Does this mean th

Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not...

2016-07-12 Thread Robert Patterson
Linked parts were available in Fin09 but there have been big improvements since then. You can now unlink special tools edits like beams, note spacing, etc. I also really like the beat-attached smart shapes that replaced measure-attached. They allow for unlinked editing of (for example) hairpin dyna

Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not...

2016-07-12 Thread Darcy James Argue
Linked parts is the big one. Cheers, – DJA - http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On July 12, 2016 at 1:16:37 PM, Johannes Gebauer (li...@musikmanufaktur.com) wrote: I am wondering whether I should upgrade my ancient version of Finale (2k9) to the current. Can someone outline in some brief

Re: [Finale] To upgrade or not

2006-11-30 Thread Chuck Israels
I am in basic agreement with Eric and I am hopefully optimistic that the maintenance update (on which MM is working) should make some things work more smoothly. Whether or no the linked parts will save you time depends on the kind of music you write, and how much editing occurs after the p

Re: [Finale] To upgrade or not

2006-11-30 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Yes. The linked parts are very good. They require a little bit of learning, but it saves a ton of time than extracting parts. Craig Sylvern wrote: My apologies if this has been covered recently. I am currently using Finale 2006. I usually upgrade Finale every two years or so, but some of the