Re: [Finale] [Fwd: Musical Humor] repost: Trombone problems

2006-02-01 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jan 31, 2006, at 11:29 PM, bill wrote: I think bass trombonists are cool. Thanks, man! That makes two; you and my mom! Christopher (whose wife is under no illusions about the coolness factor of musicians of any stripe!) ___ Finale mailing

RE: [Finale] Mass Copy in Finale 2006

2006-02-01 Thread Fisher, Allen
I always thought shift was used to bypass dialogs, at least in Finale... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of A-NO-NE Music Sent: Tue 1/31/2006 9:00 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Cc: Subject:Re: [Finale] Mass Copy in Finale 2006 Christopher Smith /

Re: [Finale] Mass Copy in Finale 2006

2006-02-01 Thread Christopher Smith
Well, in this case Shift is the key to hold down to GET the dialogue box (along with opt, which you have to hold anyway.) Christopher On Feb 1, 2006, at 9:17 AM, Fisher, Allen wrote: I always thought shift was used to bypass dialogs, at least in Finale... -Original Message- From:

Re: [Finale] OT Contemporary music and anti-intellectualism [was: Happy 250th Birthday Mozart]

2006-02-01 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Jan 31, 2006, at 4:13 PM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: a definition of contemporary which is close to the one you use describe, that is the sense of contemporary classical composer. I consider Hovhaness to be in that category, but you do not. Not quite. He is clearly identifiable as a

Re: [Finale] Two vertical systems on a page

2006-02-01 Thread Andrew Stiller
The blank measure on the same system won't really work easily because of the clefs that can't be forced to appear after it. Dennis But they can. There's a radio button for that in the Change Clef dialog. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/

Re: [Finale] Melody (was Happy 250th Birthday Mozart)

2006-02-01 Thread Chuck Israels
On Jan 31, 2006, at 8:14 PM, John Howell wrote: I seriously doubt that the solos were identical each time, given some of the name brand players, but David does point out a contradiction in the big band era. Once a song was recorded--and this goes for sweet jazz, hot jazz, or cool jazz

Re: [Finale] Happy 250th Birthday Mozart - now Finale list vs D. F.

2006-02-01 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Jan 31, 2006, at 2:10 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: So, we are supposed to just ignore things? In response to my The way to control such behavior is simply not to respond. At all. Not to drag this out any further, but you've misunderstood my recommendation. Ignoring things would mean

Re: [Finale] Mass Copy in Finale 2006

2006-02-01 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Fisher, Allen / 2006/02/01 / 09:17 AM wrote: I always thought shift was used to bypass dialogs, at least in Finale... Nope. Example. Create an expression, then hit OK while Cmd is pressed. You bypass the rest of the dialog boxes. This has been this way since v1.0 which I paid $1,000 for! --

Re: [Finale] OT Contemporary music and anti-intellectualism [was: Happy 250th Birthday Mozart]

2006-02-01 Thread Phil Daley
At 2/1/2006 11:09 AM, Andrew Stiller wrote: On Jan 31, 2006, at 4:13 PM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: a definition of contemporary which is close to the one you use describe, that is the sense of contemporary classical composer. I consider Hovhaness to be in that category, but you do not. Not

Re: [Finale] Happy 250th Birthday Mozart

2006-02-01 Thread Owain Sutton
John Howell wrote: Petrucci was a shrewd (or very lucky) businessman. But, we do not know who he sold books to, or even how many he sold. And it's most likely that he chose pre-existing music which he knew would sell well, and therefore is irrelevant in the context of how composers

Re: [Finale] DB-skip key (was Mass Copy in Finale 2006)

2006-02-01 Thread Robert Patterson
On Windows, the shift key is what bypasses dialogs, but it isn't nearly so convenient as the cmd key on Mac. For example (as of the last time I checked, c. WinFin03), if you hit shift-enter on Win when designing/assigning a text expression, it okays all *except the last* dialog box. (On Mac,

[Finale] OT: Mozart Requiem, Beyer edition(s)

2006-02-01 Thread Michael Good
One of the choruses I sing in is performing the Beyer edition of the Mozart Requiem in March. Does anybody know the story behind the publication of this edition by Kunzelmann? There are two versions of the vocal score (1983 and 2005) with the same catalog number but quite different music, far

Re: [Finale] Happy 250th Birthday Mozart

2006-02-01 Thread Phil Daley
At 2/1/2006 12:25 PM, Owain Sutton wrote: I don't accept that the success of Petrucci's innovation is proof that these books were being bought primarily to use for performances. It's too big an assumption. I like to draw a parallel with minature scores of symphonic repertoire - sure, they

Re: [Finale] Two vertical systems on a page

2006-02-01 Thread Raymond Horton
dc wrote: Andrew Stiller écrit: But they can. There's a radio button for that in the Change Clef dialog. But that won't work if you want the time sig and the key sig also, because the clef will appear after them!!! Dennis Right. In this particular case, I don't much care if I have

Re: [Finale] Two vertical systems on a page

2006-02-01 Thread Raymond Horton
Thanks Florence + Michael and Dennis. Looks straightforward enough. I use Finale for many hours, every week, but if I don't use a particular feature for a couple of months I can quickly forget it. I makes me realize why we find it so functional and others find it so daunting. My son at

Re: [Finale] Melody (was Happy 250th Birthday Mozart)

2006-02-01 Thread Christopher Smith
On Feb 1, 2006, at 11:34 AM, Chuck Israels wrote: On Jan 31, 2006, at 8:14 PM, John Howell wrote: I seriously doubt that the solos were identical each time, given some of the name brand players, but David does point out a contradiction in the big band era. Once a song was recorded--and

Re: [Finale] TAN: problem with displaying PDF files

2006-02-01 Thread David W. Fenton
On 31 Jan 2006 at 20:57, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Um, go to the Start Menu, and select run. In the dialogue, type cmd. This will bring up a DOS prompt. Type chkdsk /f. It will ask you if you want to do this next time the system starts. Enter YES. Type Exit Reboot It will do a check of you disk.

Re: [Finale] OT: Mozart Requiem, Beyer edition(s)

2006-02-01 Thread David W. Fenton
On 1 Feb 2006 at 10:22, Michael Good wrote: This reminds me of a secret re-master in the CD world, where a record label reissues a CD with a different mastering with the same catalog number and no external indication of the difference. Another example is the paperback edition of the Neue

Re: [Finale] OT: Mozart Requiem, Beyer edition(s)

2006-02-01 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
This isn't the first time I have heard such criticisms about Barenreiter's Editions. Considering the cost of buying their editions, you'd expect top notch work. Ton Koopman made a few comments about this in his Erato recordings of some of the Mozart Symphonies . Koopman also commented that parts

Re: [Finale] TAN: problem with displaying PDF files

2006-02-01 Thread Darcy James Argue
Well, there's this (which looks like a Win-compatible counterpart to OS X's Preview): http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/rd_intro.php - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://secretsociety.typepad.com Brooklyn, NY On 01 Feb 2006, at 3:05 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: I, for one, hate Acrobat

Re: [Finale] TAN: problem with displaying PDF files

2006-02-01 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Acrobat reader, older versions, were dogs. The current reader version, 7, works great on Windows XP and Macintosh. It's especially good on the Mac as the previous version really sucked. It's not slow at all. And hard to use? It's one of the few programs I've never had to read the manual to

Re: [Finale] bulk multimeasure update?

2006-02-01 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Dec 29, 2005, at 5:54 PM, Brad Beyenhof wrote: Well, it's possible to open the Page Setup for each file in sequence with this script: batch process folder execute menu item page setup save close Granted, you will have to manually make the change to each file, but you won't have to

Re: [Finale] OT: Mozart Requiem, Beyer edition(s)

2006-02-01 Thread David W. Fenton
On 1 Feb 2006 at 15:25, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: This isn't the first time I have heard such criticisms about Barenreiter's Editions. Considering the cost of buying their editions, you'd expect top notch work. When Hogwood recorded them, he used Cliff Eisen's newly-prepared editions, rather

Re: [Finale] OT Contemporary music and anti-intellectualism [was: Happy 250th Birthday Mozart]

2006-02-01 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Feb 1, 2006, at 12:08 PM, Phil Daley wrote: In it's strictest sense: con·tem·po·rar·y adj. Belonging to the same period of time: a fact documented by two contemporary sources. Of about the same age. Current; modern: contemporary trends in design. Your ideas of what contemporary means

Re: [Finale] Two vertical systems on a page

2006-02-01 Thread Andrew Stiller
Andrew Stiller écrit: But they can. There's a radio button for that in the Change Clef dialog. But that won't work if you want the time sig and the key sig also, because the clef will appear after them!!! Dennis So introduce an extra blank measure, of very narrow width, with just the

Re: [Finale] OT: Mozart Requiem, Beyer edition(s)

2006-02-01 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 01.02.2006 David W. Fenton wrote: I don't know why the early symphonies were so poorly done. It's clear that at the same time those awful editions were being prepared, the Bach edition was preparing exemplary editions. Perhaps it was just a bad editor, or that they didn't think anyone would

Re: [Finale] Two vertical systems on a page

2006-02-01 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Raymond Horton wrote: Thanks Florence + Michael and Dennis. Looks straightforward enough. I use Finale for many hours, every week, but if I don't use a particular feature for a couple of months I can quickly forget it. Here's a trick I have developed in my own use. I now _always_ include

Re: [Finale] TAN: problem with displaying PDF files

2006-02-01 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
David W. Fenton wrote: I, for one, hate Acrobat Reader. I think it's incredibly poorly designed and slow and hard to use. But it's all we've got, unfortunately. Not quite. I use the Ghostscript / Ghostview combination quite satisfactory for most of my purposes. ns.

Re: [Finale] Melody (was Happy 250th Birthday Mozart)

2006-02-01 Thread Bruce Petherick
Chuck Israels wrote: In Bill Evans' music, there was far more fixed arrangement than most people realized, or were willing to admit. Sometimes the stability of that reliable framework served as a springboard for creativity, and sometimes it just provided assurance that the shape and

RE: [Finale] Melody (was Happy 250th Birthday Mozart)

2006-02-01 Thread Williams, Jim
And possibly from the same instrument: IIRC, Bill Evans made one of his recordings on an instrument owned or used frequently by Glenn Gould, or at least was photographed sitting at it. Or is that another myth? My first mature musical insight was the realisation

Re: [Finale] [Fwd: Musical Humor] repost: Trombone problems

2006-02-01 Thread Carl Dershem
bill wrote: Christopher, I hope you are not offfended by that. Being an ex-lead trombone player, I always envied the bass. So much cool plumbing! I could never afford it, but I always loved the sound. Sorry to be sophomoric, but bass trombones rule...and violists I think bass trombonists

Re: [Finale] [Fwd: Musical Humor] repost: Trombone problems

2006-02-01 Thread Carl Dershem
Eric Dannewitz wrote: Of course, there is always the joke: What do you call a Trombone player with a pager? Optimist I always heard it: Q: What's the definition of a cocyekey optimist? A: A trombone player with a beeper. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/#

RE: [Finale] [Fwd: Musical Humor] repost: Trombone problems

2006-02-01 Thread Williams, Jim
Did anyone notice Bill's unintentional (but true) statement???...look below... I hope you are not oFFFended How appropriate for the bass trombone ;-) ;-) Under no circumstances should anyone infer that I am writing this because I play the noble and mellow EUPHONIUM--the KING of

Re: [Finale] [Fwd: Musical Humor] repost: Trombone problems

2006-02-01 Thread Carl Dershem
Williams, Jim wrote: Under no circumstances should anyone infer that I am writing this because I play the noble and mellow EUPHONIUM--the KING of instrruments--and refuse to play trombone*. I merely revel in the joys of unintentional grammatical irony. Hm. My euph is an Olds. :) cd --

Re: [Finale] OT: Mozart Requiem, Beyer edition(s)

2006-02-01 Thread David W. Fenton
On 1 Feb 2006 at 22:49, Johannes Gebauer wrote: I think that critical edition standards have evolved in the early years of both of these edtions, and what was acceptable then seems unacceptable now. Well, the early NMA editions that are so problematic did not meet the standards set in the

Re: [Finale] TAN: problem with displaying PDF files

2006-02-01 Thread David W. Fenton
On 1 Feb 2006 at 12:26, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Acrobat reader, older versions, were dogs. The current reader version, 7, works great on Windows XP and Macintosh. . . . I have to disagee on Windows. The version 7 reader has overcome the terrible performance problems of version 6, yes, but it

RE: [Finale] TAN: problem with displaying PDF files

2006-02-01 Thread Williams, Jim
Yeah, I have been bitten by that one numerous times. For weeks I wondered what the (*^)*%(^% I was doing wrong--nothing, as it turns out. But 7 does seem to be quicker, if less precise. There's also the problem with the plugins not unloading properly from memory when the host browsers are

Re: [Finale] OT: Mozart Requiem, Beyer edition(s)

2006-02-01 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 02.02.2006 David W. Fenton wrote: Well, the early NMA editions that are so problematic did not meet the standards set in the NMA editorial guidelines, either. The NBA guidelines are even better than the NMA's, which tended to privilege autograph readings over all other sources even when

Re: [Finale] [Fwd: Musical Humor] repost: Trombone problems

2006-02-01 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
Alight, everybody else has had a go -here's mine: What's the difference between a kipper and a trombone player? One's greasy and smelly with big bulging eyes and the other's a fish. Cheers, Lawrence "þaes ofereode - þisses swa maeg"http://lawrenceyates.co.ukDulcian Wind Quintet: