Re: [Finale] Measure numbers in repeats

2004-12-02 Thread Johannes Gebauer
I don't understand. Why is the problem only relevant in 20th century music? Johannes Owain Sutton wrote: Surely we're only talking about twentieth music, if the initial problem arising from first/second time endings is to be relevant? -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com

Re: [Finale] Double bars

2004-12-02 Thread Crystal Premo
That's what your client wants, and if he's a jazz guy, that is by *no* means an unreasonable request. In fact, that's what most jazz musicians prefer. Your client isn't an idiot, he just wants his chart to look like other jazz charts. (I happen to know that Chuck prefers a more traditional

Re: [Finale] Double bars

2004-12-02 Thread dhbailey
Crystal Premo wrote: That's what your client wants, and if he's a jazz guy, that is by *no* means an unreasonable request. In fact, that's what most jazz musicians prefer. Your client isn't an idiot, he just wants his chart to look like other jazz charts. (I happen to know that Chuck

Re: [Finale] Measure number zero

2004-12-02 Thread Christopher Smith
On Dec 1, 2004, at 5:58 PM, Stig Christensen wrote: I know in my world, which is show-business, I have never seen bar number 0. Neither in classical music. I also think that a drummer playing from bar 0 to bar 7 in a jazz standard repertoire would be very surprised to find a section to begin on

[Finale] Opt+Shift+Click behavior

2004-12-02 Thread A-NO-NE Music
For the life of me, I can't figure this out. Since Fin v1.0 didn't support copy/paste, I am too used to Opt+Shift+Click MasMover. FinMac2k5a, highly intermittently I don't get How many times? dialog box but it pastes right into it. This is new to me. Am I missing something? -- - Hiro

Re: [Finale] Is this a bug?

2004-12-02 Thread JD
on 12/2/04 6:38 AM, A-NO-NE Music at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Until this list made me realize you can double click to select entire measure when Partial Measure is selected, I didn't leave Partial Measure option on. Now I have it on all the time but I found myself MasMover intermittently

Re: [Finale] Opt+Shift+Click behavior

2004-12-02 Thread JD
on 12/2/04 6:38 AM, A-NO-NE Music at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since Fin v1.0 didn't support copy/paste, I am too used to Opt+Shift+Click MasMover. FinMac2k5a, highly intermittently I don't get How many times? dialog box but it pastes right into it. This is new to me. Am I missing

Re: [Finale] Double bars

2004-12-02 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Crystal Premo wrote: My client can have whatever she wants. I just wish she would *say* what she wants when she proofs things the first or second or third time. Here is how I handle this: I tell my clients that they will have two correction runs for the price (I usually make a price per source

[Finale] OT: Powerbook battery

2004-12-02 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Sorry, this is a little off-topic, feel free to reply to me personally. My Powerbook battery has all of a sudden decided to have very much less capacity than before, and I am wondering whether there is something I can try to get it back to normal. It is quite possible that it has indeed reached

Re: [Finale] Opt+Shift+Click behavior

2004-12-02 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 07:32:48 -0800, JD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/2/04 6:38 AM, A-NO-NE Music at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since Fin v1.0 didn't support copy/paste, I am too used to Opt+Shift+Click MasMover. FinMac2k5a, highly intermittently I don't get How many times? dialog box but

Re: [Finale] Measure number zero

2004-12-02 Thread David W. Fenton
Didn't we cover this at the change of the millenium? On 2 Dec 2004 at 0:50, Johannes Gebauer wrote: For the same reason there is no year 0. 0 is the point in between the year -1 and the year +1. Midnight of the 31st December in the year -1 _is_ zero, but one minute later is in fact the 1st

Re: [Finale] Measure numbers in repeats

2004-12-02 Thread Owain Sutton
I'm not aware of any consistent usage of 1st/2nd endings much before 1900. I'm happy to be corrected, though. Johannes Gebauer wrote: I don't understand. Why is the problem only relevant in 20th century music? Johannes Owain Sutton wrote: Surely we're only talking about twentieth music, if the

Re: [Finale] Measure number zero

2004-12-02 Thread John Howell
At 12:17 AM + 12/2/04, Owain Sutton wrote: Johannes Gebauer wrote: For the same reason there is no year 0. 0 is the point in between the year -1 and the year +1. Midnight of the 31st December in the year -1 _is_ zero, but one minute later is in fact the 1st January of the year 1. You give

Re: [Finale] Double bars

2004-12-02 Thread John Howell
At 9:38 PM -0500 12/1/04, Crystal Premo wrote: On a lead sheet on which A and B sections are defined by enclosed A's and B's, with a double bar at the ends of the sections. All sections begin at the beginning of a line, and my client has marked those sections to also begin with a double bar.

Re: [Finale] Measure number zero

2004-12-02 Thread Phil Daley
At 12/2/2004 01:36 PM, John Howell wrote: The Christian calendar is no more and no less than a King List ... with ONLY ONE KING! This is Anno Domine (Year of our Lord) 2004. AD stands for the Latin (spelling not guaranteed!). It's the BC (before Christ) convention of numbering backwards that

Re: [Finale] Is this a bug?

2004-12-02 Thread A-NO-NE Music
JD / 04.12.2 / 10:30AM wrote: Partial measures can be tricky and I've found it's 'where' you click in the destination measure. I learned something new! So I tried to take the advantage of this. I have eight 8th notes run in one 4/4 measure, which I tried to copy to somewhere else starting at

Re: [Finale] Opt+Shift+Click behavior

2004-12-02 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Brad Beyenhof / 04.12.2 / 11:09AM wrote: Also, you get the How Many Times when copying horizontally (to another measure in the same staff) or diagonally (to a different measure in another staff) but not when copying vertically (to the same measure in another staff). Yup, I know. If I am copying

Re: [Finale] Opt+Shift+Click behavior

2004-12-02 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 14:59:31 -0500, A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do I really have to buy QuickKeys? They were extremely slow on implementing to OSX, tho. QuicKeys is great, and it's worth the money. However, iKey (don't get Version 2 yet; stick with the last release of Version 1) is

Re: [Finale] OT: Powerbook battery

2004-12-02 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Johannes, Yeah, you should try resetting the power supply -- it's a little recessed button on the back of the PowerBook, marked with a triangle inside a circle, and you need a pen or a straightened paperclip to push it down. You want to hold it down for at least 30 seconds (this will cause

Re: [Finale] Double bars

2004-12-02 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Dec 2, 2004, at 12:47 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: I really, really hate to disagree with Chuck, but he's quite wrong here, at least when it comes to manuscript practice. A double left barline (in addition to the double right barline in the preceding measure) when a new section begins on a

Re: [Finale] Measure numbers in repeats

2004-12-02 Thread Johannes Gebauer
No, but there are editions of music before 1900 even in our times ;-) And we were talking about modern practice of publishing music, but not necessarily of contemporary music. Johannes Owain Sutton wrote: I'm not aware of any consistent usage of 1st/2nd endings much before 1900. I'm happy to

Re: [Finale] Measure numbers in repeats

2004-12-02 Thread Owain Sutton
Johannes Gebauer wrote: No, but there are editions of music before 1900 even in our times ;-) And don't we know it*still awaiting the complete edition of the Trent Codices*... And we were talking about modern practice of publishing music, but not necessarily of contemporary music. That's

Re: [Finale] Is this a bug?

2004-12-02 Thread JD
on 12/2/04 12:02 PM, A-NO-NE Music at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Partial measures can be tricky and I've found it's 'where' you click in the destination measure. I learned something new! So I tried to take the advantage of this. I have eight 8th notes run in one 4/4 measure, which I tried

Re: [Finale] Opt+Shift+Click behavior

2004-12-02 Thread JD
on 12/2/04 12:02 PM, A-NO-NE Music at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JD / 04.12.2 / 10:32AM wrote: If Partial Measures is selected, you won't see the How Many Times dialog unless you've double clicked the measure to select it entirely. I just tried it again, selecting the measure with double

Re: [Finale] OT: Powerbook battery

2004-12-02 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Darcy James Argue / 04.12.2 / 4:14PM wrote: I'm afraid you are wrong. Holding the reset button for 30 seconds *does* resent the PMU on most PowerBooks, and doing so *does* benefit the battery. I stand corrected. I went back to the original post and found it was Wallstreet. According to the

Re: [Finale] Is this a bug?

2004-12-02 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 13:24:25 -0800, JD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/2/04 12:02 PM, A-NO-NE Music at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I tried to take the advantage of this. I have eight 8th notes run in one 4/4 measure, which I tried to copy to somewhere else starting at the 'and' of 4. I

Re: [Finale] Is this a bug?

2004-12-02 Thread dhbailey
JD wrote: on 12/2/04 12:02 PM, A-NO-NE Music at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Partial measures can be tricky and I've found it's 'where' you click in the destination measure. I learned something new! So I tried to take the advantage of this. I have eight 8th notes run in one 4/4 measure, which I

Re: [Finale] Measure numbers in repeats

2004-12-02 Thread Johannes Gebauer
I am not quite sure I follow you. Are you suggesting that first and second repeats are unusual in 18th and 19th century music? In that case, I am afraid you are wrong. They happen in about every larger piece many times, and in fact even in classical menuets you will find them in most of them.

Re: [Finale] OT: Powerbook battery

2004-12-02 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Even so, the Wallstreet doesn't have one (a reset button at the back that is). There is a procedure to reset the PMU, but Thomas Schaller suggested to use a little application from Apple, Battery Reset 2.0 which I am going to try first. Johannes Darcy James Argue wrote: Hi Hiro, I'm afraid you

Re: [Finale] Measure number zero

2004-12-02 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Johannes Gebauer wrote: For the same reason there is no year 0. 0 is the point in between the year -1 and the year +1. Midnight of the 31st December in the year -1 _is_ zero, but one minute later is in fact the 1st January of the year 1. to which Owain Sutton rejoined: You give medieval

Re: [Finale] Measure number zero

2004-12-02 Thread Owain Sutton
Noel Stoutenburg wrote: but which causes me to observe that I understand first, that there was no general distinction two millenia ago between mathematicians and astronomers, and second, that there was generally no concept of zero in any numbering system then in use. I seem to remember that

Re: [Finale] Measure number zero

2004-12-02 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Owain Sutton wrote: Please.have you any evidence at all, other than anecdotal carpenter say-so, that the exact milling of inch divisions was omitted for that one stage? The one explanation I would understand would be that the 'zero' point had been so overused that it was worn down, and

Re: [Finale] Measure number zero

2004-12-02 Thread Owain Sutton
Noel Stoutenburg wrote: Owain Sutton wrote: Please.have you any evidence at all, other than anecdotal carpenter say-so, that the exact milling of inch divisions was omitted for that one stage? The one explanation I would understand would be that the 'zero' point had been so overused