Re: [Finale] Hyphen behaviour in 2006 and 2007

2006-10-22 Thread Michael Cook
er... that's the solution I promosed in my original message: ...but the only thing I can think of is to manually replace the hyphen with a space. On 21 Oct 2006, at 22:26, Mark D Lew wrote: But that suggests a possible solution. One could go through the the Edit Lyrics window of the

[Finale] Re: Piano/Vocal [was a lot of things]

2006-10-22 Thread Ken Moore
Mark D Lew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Times is a decent type face if you take the trouble to buy a well-built font. I represent my own opinions only, and not any authoritative standard. I'll curious to hear what others say on the question. I have no expertise in lyrics or in artistic

Re: [Finale] Hyphen behaviour in 2006 and 2007

2006-10-22 Thread Éric Dussault
Sorry, didn't want to steal Michael's line! In fact you are right and it works in your situation. What I meant is a totally different situation. Say you have a two syllables on the same note, then you'll need a non-breakable space between the two syllables (option-shift on macs). On Finmac

[Finale] Typgraphy with Finale....

2006-10-22 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Mark D Lew wrote: The only non-free fonts I have are Adobe, so I have no way of checking if other professional fonts from other providers use the same system. Not too long ago, I upgraded my Corel Office suite, and the fonts included was a significant reason for my doing so. Corel includes

Re: [Finale] Re: Piano/Vocal [was a lot of things]

2006-10-22 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
David W. Fenton wrote: But it's the numbers *without* descenders, and that all have the same width that are the aberration in the history of typesetting, because they were created for computer use, so you type columns of numbers in your word processing documents and have then line up. Type

Re: [Finale] Re: Piano/Vocal [was a lot of things]

2006-10-22 Thread Carl Dershem
dc wrote: I *hate* numbers with ascenders and descenders. It's just an instant, visceral ugh. They may be more legible (though I don't know if there's data on this -- people often use legible as shorthand for what I like), but I think they look ugly as sin. Just the opposite over here. I find

Re: [Finale] Re: Piano/Vocal [was a lot of things]

2006-10-22 Thread David W. Fenton
On 22 Oct 2006 at 15:41, Darcy James Argue wrote: I *hate* numbers with ascenders and descenders. It's just an instant, visceral ugh. They may be more legible (though I don't know if there's data on this -- people often use legible as shorthand for what I like), but I think they look ugly

Re: [Finale] Re: Piano/Vocal [was a lot of things]

2006-10-22 Thread Mark D Lew
On Oct 22, 2006, at 4:25 AM, Ken Moore wrote: I have no expertise in lyrics or in artistic judgment of type faces, but I have long agreed with Comrie's view, as expressed in his edition of the Chambers 7-figure Mathematical Tables, that figures with ascenders and descenders are more legible

Re: [Finale] Hyphen behaviour in 2006 and 2007

2006-10-22 Thread Mark D Lew
On Oct 21, 2006, at 11:43 PM, Michael Cook wrote: er... that's the solution I promosed in my original message: ...but the only thing I can think of is to manually replace the hyphen with a space. Oops, my bad. I didn't read carefully enough. -- On Oct 22, 2006, at 6:22 AM, Éric Dussault

Re: [Finale] Re: Piano/Vocal [was a lot of things]

2006-10-22 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 22 Oct 2006, at 3:32 PM, Mark D Lew wrote: On Oct 22, 2006, at 4:25 AM, Ken Moore wrote: I have no expertise in lyrics or in artistic judgment of type faces, but I have long agreed with Comrie's view, as expressed in his edition of the Chambers 7-figure Mathematical Tables, that

Re: [Finale] Re: Piano/Vocal [was a lot of things]

2006-10-22 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Mark D Lew wrote: The only non-free fonts I have are Adobe, so I have no way of checking if other professional fonts from other providers use the same system. but this is not quite accurate. The website www.identifont.com provides a means of comparing (and finding where to purchase)

Re: [Finale] Re: Piano/Vocal [was a lot of things]

2006-10-22 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 22 Oct 2006, at 5:46 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 22 Oct 2006 at 15:41, Darcy James Argue wrote: I *hate* numbers with ascenders and descenders. It's just an instant, visceral ugh. They may be more legible (though I don't know if there's data on this -- people often use legible as

Re: [Finale] Re: Piano/Vocal [was a lot of things]

2006-10-22 Thread Mark D Lew
On Oct 22, 2006, at 2:58 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: You're conflating two different things. Most (all?) proportional fonts do not have fixed-width numbers, but they do have numbers that are a uniform height, and that's the look I'm defending. They are indeed two separate issues. I'm

Re: [Finale] Re: Piano/Vocal [was a lot of things]

2006-10-22 Thread Mark D Lew
On Oct 22, 2006, at 1:41 PM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: but this is not quite accurate. The website www.identifont.com provides a means of comparing (and finding where to purchase) typefaces: type the name of the font in the box, and a sample of the face is shown, along with where it can be

Re: [Finale] Re: Piano/Vocal [was a lot of things]

2006-10-22 Thread Mark D Lew
On Oct 22, 2006, at 8:03 PM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: [answering me] I've used Identifont before, but if it has a panel that shows what collection of glyphs a font provides, I haven't found it. I suppose it may depend upon how large a sample of the font one wishes to view. [...] I thought