Re: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius -- which is truly faster?

2008-02-20 Thread dhbailey
Darcy James Argue wrote: What, specifically, is slowing you down in Finale? My general impression is that Sibelius is still somewhat easier to learn, but expert Finale users can work more quickly and more efficiently, especially if you make full use of third-party plugins. Back when I was a

Re: [Finale] The Finale School

2008-02-20 Thread dhbailey
Matthew Voogt wrote: Hello Everyone, My name is Matthew Voogt. I am new to the list and would just like to say hello. I have a website called The Finale School (http://www.thefinaleschool.com). It is a website that is totally free and offers video tutorials about anything and everything

Re: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius -- which is truly faster?

2008-02-20 Thread Eric Dannewitz
TGTools is really what makes Finale shine. I can't imagine using Finale without it. On 2/19/08, Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What, specifically, is slowing you down in Finale? My general impression is that Sibelius is still somewhat easier to learn, but expert Finale users can

Re: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius -- which is truly faster?

2008-02-20 Thread Eric Dannewitz
*Yawn* Yeah, you go Bob.. On 2/19/08, Bob Morabito [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well said, David.. Peace, Bob Morabito ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] OT: None Finale question for computer buffs

2008-02-20 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 03:33 AM 2/20/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand, and experience seems to bear this out, that computers running under WindowsXP will gradually run slower and slower over a period of time. I'm not sure why this would be so, and it certainly has not been my personal experience.

Re: [Finale] OT: None Finale question for computer buffs

2008-02-20 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
Hi, I've had this happen on three or four computers over the years. Maybe it is something I'm doing then, I just don't know, but a computer lecturer at our local university reckoned it was a common feature. He was the chap who knows how to do it but reckons it's not easy to do for someone

Re: [Finale] OT: None Finale question for computer buffs

2008-02-20 Thread dhbailey
Aaron Sherber wrote: At 03:33 AM 2/20/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand, and experience seems to bear this out, that computers running under WindowsXP will gradually run slower and slower over a period of time. I'm not sure why this would be so, and it certainly has not been my

Re: [Finale] Using the IAC Driver bus, for Playback from Finale2008a/Sibelius5 from a Sequencer (Digital Performer 5.12)

2008-02-20 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Bob Morabito / 08.2.20 / 0:41 AM wrote: but I then went to Sibelius, and it didn't-- what would I change there to make it work there also? I couldn't find any Interapplication Midi there Sorry. I know nothing about Sib. But Sib should see DP's ports from its MIDI config if you started Sib

Re: [Finale] OT: None Finale question for computer buffs

2008-02-20 Thread A-NO-NE Music
[EMAIL PROTECTED] / 08.2.20 / 6:16 AM wrote: I've had this happen on three or four computers over the years. Maybe it is something I'm doing then, I just don't know, but a computer lecturer at our local university reckoned it was a common feature. I think so, too. Ever since OSX became

[Fwd: Re: [Finale] Invisible Score]

2008-02-20 Thread Barbara Touburg
(Resending the post because it seems the first time it never arrived) Original Message Subject: Re: [Finale] Invisible Score Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:26:09 +0100 From: Barbara Touburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You could check the

[Finale] Re: Finale Digest, Vol 55, Issue 19

2008-02-20 Thread Peter Sprague
From: Matthew Voogt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:27:11 -0500 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] The Finale School Hello Everyone, My name is Matthew Voogt. I am new to the list and would just like to say hello. I have a website called The

[Finale] OT: a little shameless self promotion

2008-02-20 Thread Martin Banner
For those of you on the list that might be practicing choir directors, I'm delighted (and proud) to announce that my newest edition, Credo in D a 8 by Giacomo Puccini senior (the great great grandfather of the more famous opera composer) for SATB double chorus, strings, oboes, horns and

Re: [Finale] The Finale School

2008-02-20 Thread Mark McCarron
I love it mark McCarron --- Matthew Voogt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Everyone, My name is Matthew Voogt. I am new to the list and would just like to say hello. I have a website called The Finale School (http://www.thefinaleschool.com ). It is a website that is totally free and

Re: [Finale] The Finale School

2008-02-20 Thread Dick Hauser
On Feb 19, 2008, at 9:27 PM, Matthew Voogt wrote: It is a website that is totally free and offers video tutorials about anything and everything related to Finale. Check it out... let me know what you think. Great idea, Matthew. I'm not tempted to purchase any of the videos, however. I

Re: [Finale] Using the IAC Driver bus, for Playback from Finale2008a/Sibelius5 from a Sequencer (Digital Performer 5.12)

2008-02-20 Thread Bob Morabito
Thanks Hiro-- On Feb 20, 2008, at 11:02 AM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: But Sib should see DP's ports from its MIDI config if you started Sib after DP published the ports. It did--I was able to get them both to work I see. It seems you can create multiple ports. I have never done it with IAC

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale Digest, Vol 55, Issue 14

2008-02-20 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Is NOT universal, but that does not mean that it does not run on Intel Macs. They have done little revisions to version 12, it is not new by any stretch of the imagination. It has been out for like nearly 4 years. The summer of 2004 is when it came out I believe. Version 12 works on the Mac, but

Re: [Finale] OT: finding an editor for my choral works

2008-02-20 Thread marcello noia
Sorry for OT question: I'm producing a bunch of choral arrangements of pop, jazz, classical pieces for mixed voices, both SATB four parts and divisi. The question is: could you advice me which editor could I contact to ask if they're interested in publishing my works? I ask that because

RE: [Finale] OT: None Finale question for computer buffs

2008-02-20 Thread Richard Yates
Aaron Sherber wrote: At 03:33 AM 2/20/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand, and experience seems to bear this out, that computers running under WindowsXP will gradually run slower and slower over a period of time. You might try a Registry cleaner such as the one at:

Re: [Finale] The Finale School

2008-02-20 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Well, the audio is ok. I think the video size is way too small, and blowing it up makes it hard to look at (fuzzy). I'd forward the site to a couple of Finale noobs that I know, but I think they would be at a loss trying to see what is going on, and then they would promptly either call or email me

Re: [Finale] The Finale School

2008-02-20 Thread dhbailey
dc wrote: Matthew Voogt écrit: It is a website that is totally free and offers video tutorials about anything and everything related to Finale. Check it out... let me know what you think. Where one reads: What [sic] to see all those locke0d [sic] videos?! A one time fee will give you access

Re: [Finale] The Finale School

2008-02-20 Thread Matthew Voogt
Hi Everyone! Thanks for the great feedback. I can agree with the fact that the audio is a bit not so great. This was a student project that I finished up this year (I go to Berklee College of Music). And I'm actually looking for a grant from the school to get some funding so that I can buy some

[Finale] Re: Finale Digest, Vol 55, Issue 19

2008-02-20 Thread Peter Sprague
Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius -- which is truly faster? Well, I wouldn't go so far as to say it is a stupid question. But it is a question that whose answer is very individual. The only reason I chime in here is to mention that if you are not making full use of 3rd-party plugins,

RE: [Finale] OT: None Finale question for computer buffs

2008-02-20 Thread Richard Willis
One of the better utilities I use to resolve some of the problems mentioned is the Glary Utilities. This is a freeware (for individuals) set of tools that do lots of things including a one-button fix on many of the problems associated with a messy computer. I would highly recommend trying it.

Re: [Finale] The Finale School

2008-02-20 Thread Eric Dannewitz
I think you ought to make two encodes then. Or just a higher one. How many people really expect to watch a video over a slower connection? And a tutorial video at that? I personally, even though I have a high speed connection, would rather wait for something that is of quality to download than

Re: [Finale] The Finale School

2008-02-20 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Matt, Good luck with this. RE: video size, what you actually need to do is to zoom in on the areas of interest so that people can see what you are doing. I looked at your Drum Hits video and it wasn't really possible to see what was going on on the actual staves. Plus, about 90% of

Re: [Finale] Help files

2008-02-20 Thread Lawrence David Eden
Try holding down the OPTION key while launching the help files. If this works, you will get a window that asks you what program to use to open the files Good luck. At 8:12 AM +0100 2/18/08, dc wrote: Barbara Touburg écrit: Ditch IE... But how do I get the help files to open by

RE: [Finale] The Finale School

2008-02-20 Thread Fisher, Allen
Eric Said: I think you ought to make two encodes then. Or just a higher one. How many people really expect to watch a video over a slower connection? To which I reply: 1. My Dad (he still uses dialup, like an awful lot of people who live in the rural US) 2. Many of the schools that I've worked

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale Digest, Vol 55, Issue 19

2008-02-20 Thread Robert Patterson
Google finale plug-in. The first page gets you to just about all of them. On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 8:41 AM, Peter Sprague [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius -- which is truly faster? Well, I wouldn't go so far as to say it is a stupid question. But it is a

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale Digest, Vol 55, Issue 19

2008-02-20 Thread Eric Dannewitz
On Finale, www.tgtools.de On 2/20/08, Peter Sprague [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius -- which is truly faster? Hi, what are the 3rd party plugins and where does one find out about them and buy them? Thanks, Peter

Re: [Finale] The Finale School

2008-02-20 Thread Chuck Israels
Hi Matthew, Good work so far - as a work in progress. I agree with what has been posted so far in response, and I want to add that the suggestion Darcy made about a script is more than just window dressing; it is necessary to raise this to a professional level. The verbal tics that yu

Re: [Finale] OT: a little shameless self promotion

2008-02-20 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
On 2/20/08, dc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure it's very safe to have Scorch viewable files on line, though... I'm no computer geek, but it only took me one click to save the whole vocal score on my own computer and open it in Sibelius. Isn't there some kind of encryption available? Or some

Re: [Finale] The Finale School

2008-02-20 Thread Chuck Israels
On Feb 20, 2008, at 11:17 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Hi Matt, Good luck with this. RE: video size, what you actually need to do is to zoom in on the areas of interest so that people can see what you are doing. I looked at your Drum Hits video and it wasn't really possible to see what

RE: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius -- which is truly faster?

2008-02-20 Thread Steve Currington
Yep. agree whole heartedly. And in trying give both a fair hearing.. ala rather than saying Oh bugger Finale doesn't do this well or Sibelius as crap at that.. They should give both a complete se of test run and see in reality which overall works best.. Both will have advantages and both with

RE: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius -- which is truly faster?

2008-02-20 Thread Steve Currington
dhbailey composed the following. Robert Patterson wrote: Well, I wouldn't go so far as to say it is a stupid question. But it is a question that whose answer is very individual. The only reason I chime in here is to mention that if you are not making full use of 3rd-party

FW: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius -- which is truly faster?

2008-02-20 Thread Steve Currington
Oh and before someone jumps down my throat. I was agreeing whole heartedly with the try and see statement not the stupid question statement. In my opinion any question raised on these forums is valid no matter how stupid they may seem to some. It is all a matter of where one stands in time

Re: [Finale] The Finale School

2008-02-20 Thread marcello noia
The video shots are a bit small and (sorry for saying that, I'm Italian) sometimes it's really hard to understand what's being said. The idea is great as well. Dick Hauser ha scritto: On Feb 19, 2008, at 9:27 PM, Matthew Voogt wrote: It is a website that is totally free and offers video

[Finale] 2008b is out

2008-02-20 Thread Chuck Israels
Hi all, 2008b is out and purports to solve the freeze on quit problem. I will shout hallelujah, if it proves to be true. Chuck Chuck Israels 230 North Garden Terrace Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 phone (360) 671-3402 fax (360) 676-6055 www.chuckisraels.com

RE: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius -- which is truly faster?

2008-02-20 Thread Steve Currington
Christopher Smith composed the following. On Feb 19, 2008, at 7:23 PM, Adam Golding wrote: yeah i indeed tried the macro route for awhile--setting things up on finale with autohotkey and whatnot--mind you, i could never find an easy way to enter smartshapes from the keyboard--i

RE: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius -- which is truly faster?

2008-02-20 Thread Steve Currington
Christopher Smith composed the following. On Feb 19, 2008, at 5:33 PM, dhbailey wrote: And here all my teachers told me there were no stupid questions. :-( That's what I say to MY students. There are no stupid questions. Only stupid students. 8-) Christopher Hmm and

Re: [Finale] The Finale School

2008-02-20 Thread shirling neueweise
As for the video quality. I encoded at a rate that I thought would be ok for people with slow and fast connections. keeping in mind many people learning finale could possibly be on uni servers... and taht today bandwidth is r-e-a-l-l-y not the same issue it was even five years ago.

Re: [Finale] OT: None Finale question for computer buffs

2008-02-20 Thread David W. Fenton
On 20 Feb 2008 at 3:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand, and experience seems to bear this out, that computers running under WindowsXP will gradually run slower and slower over a period of time. I don't think this is true unless there's something wrong with your computer, or unless

Re: [Finale] The Finale School

2008-02-20 Thread Matthew Voogt
Yeah. We have toyed with that idea as well. All of our videos are recorded at extremely high quality so that is an option that we can come back to. And when people get the DVD's they get the high quality versions of course... not the web ones. On Feb 20, 2008, at 2:37 PM, shirling

Re: [Finale] 2008b is out

2008-02-20 Thread dhbailey
Chuck Israels wrote: Hi all, 2008b is out and purports to solve the freeze on quit problem. I will shout hallelujah, if it proves to be true. Windows users don't get excited -- there isn't a 2008b for Windows, at least not yet. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Finale] OT: None Finale question for computer buffs

2008-02-20 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
Hi David (Fenton), Thanks for your suggestions. I've had this same problem on all my recent computers and so have several people I know (including, as I mentioned, a lecturer in computer studies at a local university). I have not used IE for years and always use Firefox. Two of the

[Finale] Fin2k8b download speed

2008-02-20 Thread Darcy James Argue
Has anyone else tried to download Fin2k8b only to see their download slow to a crawl? I'm getting 16KB/sec on cable broadband that is usually 6-10 MB/sec. It's hard to believe MM's servers could be overwhelmed by people downloading a Mac-only maintenance release, even on the release date.

Re: [Finale] Fin2k8b download speed

2008-02-20 Thread Matthew Voogt
Yeah same here... I've been trying all night and it is just crawling On Feb 20, 2008, at 8:30 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Has anyone else tried to download Fin2k8b only to see their download slow to a crawl? I'm getting 16KB/sec on cable broadband that is usually 6-10 MB/sec. It's hard

Re: [Finale] Fin2k8b download speed

2008-02-20 Thread Leigh Daniels
Darcy, Mine is coming down at 15 KB/sec, 2 hrs, 47 mins remaining! **Leigh On Wed, Feb 20, 2008, Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone else tried to download Fin2k8b only to see their download slow to a crawl? I'm getting 16KB/sec on cable broadband that is usually 6-10

Re: [Finale] Fin2k8b download speed

2008-02-20 Thread Christopher Smith
On Feb 20, 2008, at 8:30 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Has anyone else tried to download Fin2k8b only to see their download slow to a crawl? I'm getting 16KB/sec on cable broadband that is usually 6-10 MB/sec. It's hard to believe MM's servers could be overwhelmed by people downloading a

Re: [Finale] Fin2k8b download speed

2008-02-20 Thread John Blane
Yes, same thing here. It helps a little if you interrupt the download and then resume it but it is brutally slow. On Feb 20, 2008, at 7:30 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Has anyone else tried to download Fin2k8b only to see their download slow to a crawl? I'm getting 16KB/sec on cable

[Finale] 2008a E Flat Transposition

2008-02-20 Thread Williams, Jim
WinFin 08a XP Pro Created a sax-section score--soprano, alto, 2 tenors, bari, jazz font, JABB Key is concert D minor. Finale correctly shows transposed keysigs for the instruments (one sharp for Bb saxes, 2 sharps for Eb saxes) I use speedy entry, no MIDI keyboard this time--I'm on my