Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 1:44 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > I think it's funny when old people get upset. You are like what, 60, > and you are using childish references, Glenn beck pictures, and > O'Reily references that maybe two other people get? And ass > references? Really? I think it's funnier you're upset, for a guy who used personal insults based on a list participant's name, and whining about childish antics, well that's even funnier. > Sales figures matter. Why would Apple be in the tops there if they > didn't make good products? And 10% of the market is not a true figure. > That is figuring in work machines. No, it's based on web analytics, not sales. "Unlike determining market share by units sold, Qauntcast measures OS share by comparing the operating system of users via the company's "audience measurement services," similar to statistics gathered by Net Applications. Such usage patterns can give us a rough idea of the installed base of an OS among end users." Those end users aren't imaginary people, or "unreal" people. Sounds like you're the one with vision issues. *Wink wink* > area now for whatever reason. Of course you think apple has problems > with it's phones but again, the sales numbers don't show that at > all..but doesn't really matter for a myopic such as yourself. > didn't they sell something like 18 million of those phones last > quarter? So what, Nokia sold 107.6 million mobile devices in the first quarter of 2011. > I never say NOT to get windows. Just don't get the $300 machine. Its > clown-ish. Again, even D. Fenton agrees that it is stupid. That's nice, dear. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?
I think it's funny when old people get upset. You are like what, 60, and you are using childish references, Glenn beck pictures, and O'Reily references that maybe two other people get? And ass references? Really? Sales figures matter. Why would Apple be in the tops there if they didn't make good products? And 10% of the market is not a true figure. That is figuring in work machines. I believe allthingsd did a study last year saying the numbers of home machines another matter. That is what amazon is showing. What real people buy. Not the imaginary 10% number you are fixating onmaybe anally as you seem to be in that area now for whatever reason. Of course you think apple has problems with it's phones but again, the sales numbers don't show that at all..but doesn't really matter for a myopic such as yourself. didn't they sell something like 18 million of those phones last quarter? I never say NOT to get windows. Just don't get the $300 machine. Its clown-ish. Again, even D. Fenton agrees that it is stupid. Sent from my iSomething On May 23, 2011, at 10:23 PM, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Eric wrote: > > Are you? I mean, it's one thing to have a debate about a platform and > your personal preferences, but if you wanted to raise the ante by > insulting someone, I can ramp it up too. You brought up sales figures > on Amazon as some sort of justification of "well if it sells on > Amazon, that means I'm right." Did you miss the part where I pointed > out Apple is about 10 percent of the market, and they have and remain > a niche area in the market? > > I'm sorry Mr Dipshitz' butthurt is showing because someone doesn't > worship at the altar of Steve Job or suggests an alternative you don't > like. And your continued bringing up the 300 dollar laptop is pretty > lulz- worthy too. I mentioned that as a purchase at Deal News.com as > an example of a great deal I found there, and I specifically mentioned > they list great specials on any platform or vendor. > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?
Huh? Who? You aren't making sense..what are you talking about? Sent from my iSomething On May 23, 2011, at 10:34 PM, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: Aw more butthurt: LOL @ 950.00 27 inch monitor compared to HP's 27 version for only 320 @ the aforementioned Amazon, clearly someone is dedicated to their product, no matter the price! ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 12:43 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > Oh, but you spent lots of money on a niche product. You could have > bought 2 or more $300 laptops that could do all what you want. > > The iMac is really nice. The displays are nice. And it is nearly > silent. A 27" iMac and a 30" external monitor would be amazing. Have > you done that? How would you arrange the score with two huge displays? > > I my macpro is pretty quite, and I have yet to max out the processors > on it. I've mixed two jazz band albums using ProTools with it, and I > don't think I even got anywhere close to 1/2 of the processing power > even with all the plugins I was using. And this is a 2008 model. > Though think of all the $300 laptops I could have bought! > > For finale stuff, I have no clue how much power it uses. A big band > score with the garritan sounds works fine. The only time thing I ever > had the computer choke on was lots of VIs in digital performer. > Basically ran out of memory. Increasing the Mac to 8 gigs solved that. > > But I'm using a niche product.should have gotten a $300 laptop. It > could do all that and then some. I could be on my second or third on > by now. > Aw more butthurt: LOL @ 950.00 27 inch monitor compared to HP's 27 version for only 320 @ the aforementioned Amazon, clearly someone is dedicated to their product, no matter the price! ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Eric wrote: > Man, you are a moron huh? I mean, you are using Glenn beck and Bill > O'Reilly? What purpose does bringing these people into this > discussion? Are you? I mean, it's one thing to have a debate about a platform and your personal preferences, but if you wanted to raise the ante by insulting someone, I can ramp it up too. You brought up sales figures on Amazon as some sort of justification of "well if it sells on Amazon, that means I'm right." Did you miss the part where I pointed out Apple is about 10 percent of the market, and they have and remain a niche area in the market? > Whatever. I think anyone that reads your posts will see them for what > they are.ill-informed. Apple makes great products, and if one is > looking for a new system they should spend money on it. Windows > systems as well, lots of ram, etc. NOT the $300 special Mr. Clown is > suggesting.I mean, he knows all about stuff. He's on that Internet > thing with the tubes. And can readily link to images of Glenn beck > I'm sorry Mr Dipshitz' butthurt is showing because someone doesn't worship at the altar of Steve Job or suggests an alternative you don't like. And your continued bringing up the 300 dollar laptop is pretty lulz- worthy too. I mentioned that as a purchase at Deal News.com as an example of a great deal I found there, and I specifically mentioned they list great specials on any platform or vendor. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?
Oh, but you spent lots of money on a niche product. You could have bought 2 or more $300 laptops that could do all what you want. The iMac is really nice. The displays are nice. And it is nearly silent. A 27" iMac and a 30" external monitor would be amazing. Have you done that? How would you arrange the score with two huge displays? I my macpro is pretty quite, and I have yet to max out the processors on it. I've mixed two jazz band albums using ProTools with it, and I don't think I even got anywhere close to 1/2 of the processing power even with all the plugins I was using. And this is a 2008 model. Though think of all the $300 laptops I could have bought! For finale stuff, I have no clue how much power it uses. A big band score with the garritan sounds works fine. The only time thing I ever had the computer choke on was lots of VIs in digital performer. Basically ran out of memory. Increasing the Mac to 8 gigs solved that. But I'm using a niche product.should have gotten a $300 laptop. It could do all that and then some. I could be on my second or third on by now. Sent from my iSomething On May 23, 2011, at 9:08 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: > The last thing I wanted to do was to start a platform war. Macs are better > for me (in my limited experience) and worth the money - for me. PCs seem to > be less expensive, and I know they work. I find them slightly more obtuse > and I am clumsier when using them, but that may be lack of experience. (I > don't know Sibelius and find it difficult, but new users find it easier to > learn than Finale, so I have to accept the fact that my judgments are > personal.) That's all I know, and from my point of view, I like Macs and am > quite satisfied with the 27" iMac. I used to have a Mac Pro and a 30" Cinema > display (that I liked), but the Mac Pro was overkill, big, and slightly > noisy. The iMac is essentially silent, and if I need to do a lot of work on > orchestral scores, I can always ad a monitor in portrait mode. > > Chuck > > > On May 23, 2011, at 7:42 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > >> Really? You can't use Google? Or check CNet? Check Amazon (3 of the top 5 >> are Apple Laptops, 5 of the top 10 are iMacs)? Or even check Consumer >> Reports? >> >> The evidence is out there.plain as day. They make excellent hardware. >> #1-3 in Desktops on Amazon are held by Apple products. >> >> Point Game Match.. >> >> I don't need a fork for the Clown Pie.it just makes a strange honking >> noise.. >> >> -- >> Eric Dannewitz >> Musician/Polymath >> On Monday, May 23, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: >>> But it's more recent than any of your links, Oh wait, you haven't >>> provided anything other than your personal stories, and that great >>> extended Apple warranty. >>> >>> Here, have a fork for your pie. >> >> ___ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > Chuck Israels > 1310 NW Naito Parkway #807 > Portland, OR 97209-3162 > phone: (503) 926-7952 > cell phone: (360) 201-3434 > www.chuckisraels.com > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?
Man, you are a moron huh? I mean, you are using Glenn beck and Bill O'Reilly? What purpose does bringing these people into this discussion? Whatever. I think anyone that reads your posts will see them for what they are.ill-informed. Apple makes great products, and if one is looking for a new system they should spend money on it. Windows systems as well, lots of ram, etc. NOT the $300 special Mr. Clown is suggesting.I mean, he knows all about stuff. He's on that Internet thing with the tubes. And can readily link to images of Glenn beck Sent from my iSomething On May 23, 2011, at 9:08 PM, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: > On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Eric Dannewitz > wrote: > >> Actually, no. But Clow(n) land seems to be really holding you tight. > > Not so tight as things apparently over in Eric Dumbshitz land. > > >> Look, the fact is that a cheap laptop isn't going to hack it. Even David >> Fenton agrees. And just bashing Apple products just shows ignorance on your >> part. > > > Cry moar! Here have a hanky. > > http://204.45.110.156/bin/052010/1272964790_glenn-beck-crying.gif > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Re: Forcing ties to previous note
Thanks, everyone who responded, for the timely responses to my question about forcing ties to a previous note at a coda or similar instance. I just remembered I didn't follow up with this. The answer Ryan gave, about how using a different layer will get backward ties to show up, proved to be the best option. I thought I had remembered coming across a solution like this before, but couldn't remember what it was. While I don't ask very many questions here, I've been reading this list for at least ten years, and have found it to be an invaluable resource. Thanks to everyone for making it what it is. Stephen Lamb Freelance copyist, arranger, and composer Nashville, TN > From: Ryan > To: > Subject: Re: [Finale] Forcing ties to previous note > > > Try entering the notes of the first bar of the coda in a different layer, > like layer 3, and then forcing a back tie. It's worked for me in similar > situations in the past. > This may affect your linked parts, however, depending on the settings you've > chosen. > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?
The last thing I wanted to do was to start a platform war. Macs are better for me (in my limited experience) and worth the money - for me. PCs seem to be less expensive, and I know they work. I find them slightly more obtuse and I am clumsier when using them, but that may be lack of experience. (I don't know Sibelius and find it difficult, but new users find it easier to learn than Finale, so I have to accept the fact that my judgments are personal.) That's all I know, and from my point of view, I like Macs and am quite satisfied with the 27" iMac. I used to have a Mac Pro and a 30" Cinema display (that I liked), but the Mac Pro was overkill, big, and slightly noisy. The iMac is essentially silent, and if I need to do a lot of work on orchestral scores, I can always ad a monitor in portrait mode. Chuck On May 23, 2011, at 7:42 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > Really? You can't use Google? Or check CNet? Check Amazon (3 of the top 5 are > Apple Laptops, 5 of the top 10 are iMacs)? Or even check Consumer Reports? > > The evidence is out there.plain as day. They make excellent hardware. > #1-3 in Desktops on Amazon are held by Apple products. > > Point Game Match.. > > I don't need a fork for the Clown Pie.it just makes a strange honking > noise.. > > -- > Eric Dannewitz > Musician/Polymath > On Monday, May 23, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: >> But it's more recent than any of your links, Oh wait, you haven't >> provided anything other than your personal stories, and that great >> extended Apple warranty. >> >> Here, have a fork for your pie. > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 1310 NW Naito Parkway #807 Portland, OR 97209-3162 phone: (503) 926-7952 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > Actually, no. But Clow(n) land seems to be really holding you tight. Not so tight as things apparently over in Eric Dumbshitz land. > Look, the fact is that a cheap laptop isn't going to hack it. Even David > Fenton agrees. And just bashing Apple products just shows ignorance on your > part. Cry moar! Here have a hanky. http://204.45.110.156/bin/052010/1272964790_glenn-beck-crying.gif ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?
Actually, no. But Clow(n) land seems to be really holding you tight. Look, the fact is that a cheap laptop isn't going to hack it. Even David Fenton agrees. And just bashing Apple products just shows ignorance on your part. -- Eric Dannewitz Musician/Polymath On Monday, May 23, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: > That's right, and those same sources say the same about cheaper PCs: > they're all excellent. Bill O'Reilly's books are high ranking on > Amazon too, so that's not impressive by any measure -- never mind > overall Apple is still around 10 percent for desktops and laptops. > Z.Apple has and will remain a niche product for its fans. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 10:42 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > Really? You can't use Google? Or check CNet? Check Amazon (3 of the top 5 are > Apple Laptops, 5 of the top 10 are iMacs)? Or even check Consumer Reports? > > The evidence is out there.plain as day. They make excellent hardware. > #1-3 in Desktops on Amazon are held by Apple products. That's right, and those same sources say the same about cheaper PCs: they're all excellent. Bill O'Reilly's books are high ranking on Amazon too, so that's not impressive by any measure -- never mind overall Apple is still around 10 percent for desktops and laptops. Z.Apple has and will remain a niche product for its fans. > Point Game Match.. Sorry but Macs suck for games, you should get a PC!!! :-) > > I don't need a fork for the Clown Pie.it just makes a strange honking > noise.. Really? That sounds like some more personal experiences! Thanks! Kim ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?
Really? You can't use Google? Or check CNet? Check Amazon (3 of the top 5 are Apple Laptops, 5 of the top 10 are iMacs)? Or even check Consumer Reports? The evidence is out there.plain as day. They make excellent hardware. #1-3 in Desktops on Amazon are held by Apple products. Point Game Match.. I don't need a fork for the Clown Pie.it just makes a strange honking noise.. -- Eric Dannewitz Musician/Polymath On Monday, May 23, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: > But it's more recent than any of your links, Oh wait, you haven't > provided anything other than your personal stories, and that great > extended Apple warranty. > > Here, have a fork for your pie. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > Sure it's not clown pie? That link is really old.they mention PowerBooks? > But it's more recent than any of your links, Oh wait, you haven't provided anything other than your personal stories, and that great extended Apple warranty. Here, have a fork for your pie. Thanks, KIm ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?
Sent from my iSomething On May 23, 2011, at 3:11 PM, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: So your point about Apple's limited warranty and offering extended coverage isn't any better than PC has no bearing on anything? Ok, great. Moving on. What? I'm saying that apple is rated at or damn near the top. Meaning the quality is top noch and when something does break, apple generally makes it good with AppleCare. There are lots or reports of people getting whole new computers from applelike people who had problems with the liquid cooled g5 towers... And there are plenty of Consumer Reports "Recommended Buys" for PC etc, and cheaper. As for their products, do you want to throw in the Android format versus the iPhone and the numerous issues with its phones (Consumer Reports can fill you in on that). Ah, consumer reports. Really an unbiased and trustworthy source aren't they? And I think there are PLENTY if YouTube videos showing the exact same problems with droids (ie death grip) So what? A lot of the software is pre-installed anyway, and that's not a factor in buying an Apple product? I've known Apple users that had to reinstall applications after a major Apple upgrade. If we limit this to just installing Finale, I mentioned earlier many on the list appear to install upgrades or fixes anyways. *Shrug* So when you decide to upgrade your pcs motherboard, you have to reinstall everythingincluding windows. Meaning you need to contact Microsoft to get them to move the license to a new machine. And finale. And everything else. So.hardly a great upgrade path You missed my point: Apple is going to a more restrictive model for what software it will offer to sell on its Apps store: that means even less software will be available in the future. This is pure FUD. There is nothing to suggest that apple is going to ban non-apple store software. They simply provide the option to uses and developers. Clown pie is good huh? I live in the fantasy world where I can buy a computer that's cheaper, runs more software and doesn't box me in. Ah, the Crux of the matter. The 1990s reasoning that more software is better. But weren't we limiting it to finale? No? And you are boxed in with windows. Are you going 64 bit or 32? Ultimate or the lesser versions? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?
Sure it's not clown pie? That link is really old.they mention PowerBooks? And that's the only one you can reference? Hardly convincing Sent from my iSomething On May 23, 2011, at 3:30 PM, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: > On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: >> Whatever he is eating/smoking I want some. I haven't seen anything >> remotely close to what you'd get with a stock MacBook. >> > > > Old link, but still pertinent: > > http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-10442_7-6511774-10.html?tag=rb_content;rb_mtx > > And that Acer was significantly cheaper than the Apple product. > > Here, have some Crow Pie. > > Thanks > Kim > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?
What, not having any clown pie? The iMacs display is really really nice for finale... Sent from my iSomething On May 23, 2011, at 3:35 PM, Matthew Hindson Gma wrote: > Me too. I have a 27" iMac with a 2nd 24" monitor attached in portrait mode. > Worth every cent. Screen real estate is gold and improves productivity > substantially. I have a laptop at work and it's almost painful in comparison. > Matthew > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 24/05/2011, at 5:22 AM, Chuck Israels wrote: > >> That's what I think too. I have a 27" iMac, and it is satisfying and >> trouble free. A little extra RAM can help. (Full disclosure - I've always >> used Macs and have little experience with Windows. Still, I am confident in >> giving this recommendation.) >> >> Chuck >> >> >> On May 23, 2011, at 12:10 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: >> >>> Get an iMac. >>> >>> -- >>> Eric Dannewitz >>> Musician/Polymath >>> On Monday, May 23, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Lee Dengler wrote: Hi All, I need to purchase a new desktop computer. I am running Finale 2010 Windows at the present and will likely upgrade to 2012 when it comes out. I engrave full orchestrations and want to be able to play any and all of the sounds. I also want something that I will not outgrow in a few years. Any suggestions would greatly appreciated. Lee Dengler leedeng...@comcast.net Lee Dengler Consulting Editor, Jubilate Music Director, Goshen Community Chorale Minister of Music, College Mennonite Church Composer ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>> ___ >>> Finale mailing list >>> Finale@shsu.edu >>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> Chuck Israels >> 1310 NW Naito Parkway #807 >> Portland, OR 97209-3162 >> phone: (503) 926-7952 >> cell phone: (360) 201-3434 >> www.chuckisraels.com >> >> >> ___ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?
Me too. I have a 27" iMac with a 2nd 24" monitor attached in portrait mode. Worth every cent. Screen real estate is gold and improves productivity substantially. I have a laptop at work and it's almost painful in comparison. Matthew Sent from my iPhone On 24/05/2011, at 5:22 AM, Chuck Israels wrote: That's what I think too. I have a 27" iMac, and it is satisfying and trouble free. A little extra RAM can help. (Full disclosure - I've always used Macs and have little experience with Windows. Still, I am confident in giving this recommendation.) Chuck On May 23, 2011, at 12:10 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Get an iMac. -- Eric Dannewitz Musician/Polymath On Monday, May 23, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Lee Dengler wrote: Hi All, I need to purchase a new desktop computer. I am running Finale 2010 Windows at the present and will likely upgrade to 2012 when it comes out. I engrave full orchestrations and want to be able to play any and all of the sounds. I also want something that I will not outgrow in a few years. Any suggestions would greatly appreciated. Lee Dengler leedeng...@comcast.net Lee Dengler Consulting Editor, Jubilate Music Director, Goshen Community Chorale Minister of Music, College Mennonite Church Composer ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 1310 NW Naito Parkway #807 Portland, OR 97209-3162 phone: (503) 926-7952 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?
Wow.hell has frozen over ;-) You speak the truth sir. Sent from my iSomething On May 23, 2011, at 2:08 PM, "David W. Fenton" wrote: > On 23 May 2011 at 13:53, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > >> But that's no a real good point. You then have several boat anchors >> (ie old hardware) around, plus you have all the migration problems of >> getting your old files and software to new machines. > > Eric and I hardly ever agree on anything at all, but on this one, I'm > with him 100%. > > The fact is, the "Apple hardware is more expensive" canard is a > COMPLETE MYTH, and it has been for well over a decade. > > The reason it persists is because Apple doesn't sell low-end > products. It configures all of its products so that they perform > well. This means that there is nothing comparable to the $300 PCs in > Apple's product line. > > But you're not getting the same thing for $300 that you would if you > pad $800 for a Mac -- if you configured a Windows PC with comparable > specifications as the $800 Mac, it will cost about $800, too (and in > many cases, it will cost MORE). > > Secondly, the point about changing machines often is one that too > many people vastly underrate. You're much better off spending $1500 > every 6 years than you are spending $300 three times during the same > time period. You may think you're sayving a huge amount of money, but > instead, you're getting a poorly performing machine that was way back > in the pack performance-wise when you bought it (and likely last > year's model, anyway), and it will be wheezing under the requirements > placed on it in a couple of years. > > You can get a 5-year PC for $1000 if you have modest computing needs, > but for $1500, you can get a machine that will long outlast 5 years > (I have clients retiring 8-year-old machines, for instance). The > price point used to be $2000, but it's come down to $1500 in the last > few years. > > But anybody who says Macs are more expensive than PCs hasn't ever > actually sat down and tried to do a real 1:1 comparison between a Mac > and a PC configured with the same peripherals, RAM, etc. > > When you do that, you find out that Macs are actually quite a good > value. > > And you learn to stay away from the low-end PC junk. > > -- > David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com > David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > Whatever he is eating/smoking I want some. I haven't seen anything > remotely close to what you'd get with a stock MacBook. > Old link, but still pertinent: http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-10442_7-6511774-10.html?tag=rb_content;rb_mtx And that Acer was significantly cheaper than the Apple product. Here, have some Crow Pie. Thanks Kim ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > Sent from my iSomething > > On May 23, 2011, at 2:10 PM, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: > >> Right, so Apple's limited warranty isn't any better than a standard >> PC, and like them-- you can buy an extended warranty. But that's swell >> of Apple to offer limited warranties on their products. And the point >> for many people is bang for their buck and dollars when it comes to >> laptops or computers: you get can buy faster motherboards at a >> cheaper price with a platform that's not nearly as restrictive as what >> will be with Apple's Lion OS that's being touted: it even more >> restrictive with less choices available. > > Apple is consistently rated like #1 in its products and stores So your point about Apple's limited warranty and offering extended coverage isn't any better than PC has no bearing on anything? Ok, great. Moving on. And there are plenty of Consumer Reports "Recommended Buys" for PC etc, and cheaper. As for their products, do you want to throw in the Android format versus the iPhone and the numerous issues with its phones (Consumer Reports can fill you in on that). > You do know that windows generally needs to be reinstalled if you > switch hardware. So what? A lot of the software is pre-installed anyway, and that's not a factor in buying an Apple product? I've known Apple users that had to reinstall applications after a major Apple upgrade. If we limit this to just installing Finale, I mentioned earlier many on the list appear to install upgrades or fixes anyways. *Shrug* > And what fantasy world did you pull this BS about lion being more > restrictive? I think 10.7 (Lion) will work across all mac nade within > the last 4 years > You missed my point: Apple is going to a more restrictive model for what software it will offer to sell on its Apps store: that means even less software will be available in the future. I live in the fantasy world where I can buy a computer that's cheaper, runs more software and doesn't box me in. Thanks! Kim ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?
Whatever he is eating/smoking I want some. I haven't seen anything remotely close to what you'd get with a stock MacBook. Sent from my iSomething On May 23, 2011, at 2:18 PM, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: > But you're not getting the same thing for $300 that you would if you > pad $800 for a Mac -- if you configured a Windows PC with comparable > specifications as the $800 Mac, it will cost about $800, too (and in > many cases, it will cost MORE). > > Not in this case, really. I'm way ahead of you on this one. > > Thanks > > Kim > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?
If not RAID 1 (mirroring for those who don't know what it is), then at least an external drive to backup Daily to and/or a subscription to something like crashplan. In this digital age you really can't afford to NOT to have a backup plan. Though RAID1 won't keep you safe from accidental deletion or filesystem corruption (which is rare nowadays) Sent from my iSomething On May 23, 2011, at 2:04 PM, "David W. Fenton" wrote: > On 23 May 2011 at 14:44, Lee Dengler wrote: > >> Any suggestions would greatly appreciated. > > It's difficult to recommend brands any more as so many of the top > nameplates just don't have good quality any longer. I still recommend > Dell desktops to my clients and haven't had any significant problems > with any of them (with rare exceptions). > > For a 5-year Windows machine (i.e., will not need significant > upgrades for that period of time), you'll pay in the range of $1500 > up. These are my recommendations: > > 1. Windows 7 64-bit > 2. 8GBs of RAM > 3. mirrored RAID 1 high-speed hard drives (i.e., a pair of hard > drives where 1 mirrors the other -- it increases performances since > the controller can read from either drive, but also if one fails, the > other one is still OK). > 4. high-end video, though not the most expensive possible. > 5. the largest monitor you can afford, or better, two reasonably > large monitors. > > In general, the bottom half of Dell's product line can't be > configured with this spec, only the Dell Dimension and Optiplex lines > of standard desktops work for this. That's because the lower-priced > lines are CHEAP and not expandable, and simply don't support the > newer components with the highest performance. > > I would love to be able to buy a desktop with the OS on a solid-state > drive and use the RAID 1 array for data only, but that doesn't exist > yet except on the gaming machines (which are way too expensive, in my > opinion). > > Don't skimp on either RAM, hard drive speed or video speed/RAM. All > of those things have a huge impact on performance and when you trim > from the specs for each of those components, you lose a huge amount > in performance. That's why one of these $1500 desktops will vastly > outperform any machine half its price. > > You can probably save money on the RAM if you buy the machine with > 2GBs (single DIMM) and then upgrade it to 8GBs from Crucial.com, but > I have never considered that worth the effort when buying a new > machine. But it's worth comparing the price from Crucial with what > you'd pay from the vendor. > > -- > David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com > David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?
Sent from my iSomething On May 23, 2011, at 2:10 PM, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: > Right, so Apple's limited warranty isn't any better than a standard > PC, and like them-- you can buy an extended warranty. But that's swell > of Apple to offer limited warranties on their products. And the point > for many people is bang for their buck and dollars when it comes to > laptops or computers: you get can buy faster motherboards at a > cheaper price with a platform that's not nearly as restrictive as what > will be with Apple's Lion OS that's being touted: it even more > restrictive with less choices available. > Apple is consistently rated like #1 in its products and stores You do know that windows generally needs to be reinstalled if you switch hardware. And what fantasy world did you pull this BS about lion being more restrictive? I think 10.7 (Lion) will work across all mac nade within the last 4 years > >> >> Yikes...no thanks. I don't want a machine crapping out on me ever two >> years or so. Do you think the same way with cars? Houses? Instruments?? > > That's nice. Guess you do. Hope the Yugo doesn't fly apart on the freeway... ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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But you're not getting the same thing for $300 that you would if you pad $800 for a Mac -- if you configured a Windows PC with comparable specifications as the $800 Mac, it will cost about $800, too (and in many cases, it will cost MORE). Not in this case, really. I'm way ahead of you on this one. Thanks Kim ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > But that's no a real good point. You then have several boat anchors (ie old > hardware) around, plus you have all the migration problems of getting your > old files and software to new machines. Yeah, that's incredibly hard work! Most Finale users seem to buy the software upgrades and new releases anyway. > So if I spend $999 to get a MacBook, I could have gotten 2 1/2 $300 special > windows computers? That is "several"? Are you expecting them to die every > other year. I see that they only offer 1 year warranty on them. For like > another $100 I can bump Applecare up to 3 years. Right, so Apple's limited warranty isn't any better than a standard PC, and like them-- you can buy an extended warranty. But that's swell of Apple to offer limited warranties on their products. And the point for many people is bang for their buck and dollars when it comes to laptops or computers: you get can buy faster motherboards at a cheaper price with a platform that's not nearly as restrictive as what will be with Apple's Lion OS that's being touted: it even more restrictive with less choices available. > > Yikes...no thanks. I don't want a machine crapping out on me ever two > years or so. Do you think the same way with cars? Houses? Instruments?? That's nice. Thanks, Kim ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?
On 23 May 2011 at 13:53, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > But that's no a real good point. You then have several boat anchors > (ie old hardware) around, plus you have all the migration problems of > getting your old files and software to new machines. Eric and I hardly ever agree on anything at all, but on this one, I'm with him 100%. The fact is, the "Apple hardware is more expensive" canard is a COMPLETE MYTH, and it has been for well over a decade. The reason it persists is because Apple doesn't sell low-end products. It configures all of its products so that they perform well. This means that there is nothing comparable to the $300 PCs in Apple's product line. But you're not getting the same thing for $300 that you would if you pad $800 for a Mac -- if you configured a Windows PC with comparable specifications as the $800 Mac, it will cost about $800, too (and in many cases, it will cost MORE). Secondly, the point about changing machines often is one that too many people vastly underrate. You're much better off spending $1500 every 6 years than you are spending $300 three times during the same time period. You may think you're sayving a huge amount of money, but instead, you're getting a poorly performing machine that was way back in the pack performance-wise when you bought it (and likely last year's model, anyway), and it will be wheezing under the requirements placed on it in a couple of years. You can get a 5-year PC for $1000 if you have modest computing needs, but for $1500, you can get a machine that will long outlast 5 years (I have clients retiring 8-year-old machines, for instance). The price point used to be $2000, but it's come down to $1500 in the last few years. But anybody who says Macs are more expensive than PCs hasn't ever actually sat down and tried to do a real 1:1 comparison between a Mac and a PC configured with the same peripherals, RAM, etc. When you do that, you find out that Macs are actually quite a good value. And you learn to stay away from the low-end PC junk. -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > There is a lot to consider here. Bigger screen doesn't mean better. You want > a good, high resolution screen. Not just a bigger screen. It could be 19" but > with a crappy display resolution. > > Blu Ray DVD? So now we are looking at entertainment machines? I don't think > you'd have an actual BluRay burner, because those are still around $200. It's > probably a BluRay reader and a DVD/CD Burner. But that really doesn't matter. > I can't think of the last time I had to actually burn something. Everything > is done with via the Net, like using DropBox to send PDFs to clients, or song > mixes or whatever. > > Never ever had an issue with Apple stuff, and if I did, I'd simply take it to > an Apple Store and have them look at it. Applecare is great (I hear). > > And 19" on a "Laptop".I know we Americans are getting fat but that is > like.huge. How practical is that? Like what 20lbs of "laptop"? > > Oh, also, I don't see HP ever making a 19" laptop..the biggest one of > that line Google says they make is 17" Sorry -- typo-- it's 17 inch. You're getting bogged down in a lot of useless back-and-forth about this and that when the bottom line is : you can find products with more features at a cheaper price than most Apple products. You had a good experience: great! I highly recommend Deal News for any computer specials. Thanks, Kim ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?
On 23 May 2011 at 14:44, Lee Dengler wrote: > Any suggestions would greatly appreciated. It's difficult to recommend brands any more as so many of the top nameplates just don't have good quality any longer. I still recommend Dell desktops to my clients and haven't had any significant problems with any of them (with rare exceptions). For a 5-year Windows machine (i.e., will not need significant upgrades for that period of time), you'll pay in the range of $1500 up. These are my recommendations: 1. Windows 7 64-bit 2. 8GBs of RAM 3. mirrored RAID 1 high-speed hard drives (i.e., a pair of hard drives where 1 mirrors the other -- it increases performances since the controller can read from either drive, but also if one fails, the other one is still OK). 4. high-end video, though not the most expensive possible. 5. the largest monitor you can afford, or better, two reasonably large monitors. In general, the bottom half of Dell's product line can't be configured with this spec, only the Dell Dimension and Optiplex lines of standard desktops work for this. That's because the lower-priced lines are CHEAP and not expandable, and simply don't support the newer components with the highest performance. I would love to be able to buy a desktop with the OS on a solid-state drive and use the RAID 1 array for data only, but that doesn't exist yet except on the gaming machines (which are way too expensive, in my opinion). Don't skimp on either RAM, hard drive speed or video speed/RAM. All of those things have a huge impact on performance and when you trim from the specs for each of those components, you lose a huge amount in performance. That's why one of these $1500 desktops will vastly outperform any machine half its price. You can probably save money on the RAM if you buy the machine with 2GBs (single DIMM) and then upgrade it to 8GBs from Crucial.com, but I have never considered that worth the effort when buying a new machine. But it's worth comparing the price from Crucial with what you'd pay from the vendor. -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?
On 23 May 2011 at 15:29, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: > I got a top notch laptop via their website for > 300.00. It may have been a really good value, but it wasn't a "top-notch laptop". -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?
But that's no a real good point. You then have several boat anchors (ie old hardware) around, plus you have all the migration problems of getting your old files and software to new machines. So if I spend $999 to get a MacBook, I could have gotten 2 1/2 $300 special windows computers? That is "several"? Are you expecting them to die every other year. I see that they only offer 1 year warranty on them. For like another $100 I can bump Applecare up to 3 years. Yikes...no thanks. I don't want a machine crapping out on me ever two years or so. Do you think the same way with cars? Houses? Instruments? -- Eric Dannewitz Musician/Polymath On Monday, May 23, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: > > My point wasn't that he should buy a 300 dollar laptop, it was instead > the nature of great deals on the website. They list many deals for a > variety of computer products and types, not just laptops. > > But even so, for the price of a top end Apple iMac, you could have > purchased several laptops over the course of a few years. > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?
There is a lot to consider here. Bigger screen doesn't mean better. You want a good, high resolution screen. Not just a bigger screen. It could be 19" but with a crappy display resolution. Blu Ray DVD? So now we are looking at entertainment machines? I don't think you'd have an actual BluRay burner, because those are still around $200. It's probably a BluRay reader and a DVD/CD Burner. But that really doesn't matter. I can't think of the last time I had to actually burn something. Everything is done with via the Net, like using DropBox to send PDFs to clients, or song mixes or whatever. Never ever had an issue with Apple stuff, and if I did, I'd simply take it to an Apple Store and have them look at it. Applecare is great (I hear). And 19" on a "Laptop".I know we Americans are getting fat but that is like.huge. How practical is that? Like what 20lbs of "laptop"? Oh, also, I don't see HP ever making a 19" laptop..the biggest one of that line Google says they make is 17" -- Eric Dannewitz Musician/Polymath On Monday, May 23, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: > > I have a HP Pavillion 19 inch laptop and it's fantastic. And a lot > cheaper than a Mac, and it has a Blu Ray DVD reader burner. > > Fast as hell, with a huge hard drive tons of RAM. HP is great with > driver updates and diagnostics and their customer service support is > fantastic (I had an issue with a DVD that was quickly solved by remote > assistance from HP). > > Thanks > > Kim ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > Though I don't see how a $300 laptop is going to be able to "grow" for a few > years. Nor how it will handle playing back good quality sounds (NOT the > Finale Software synth sounds, but more like the Garritan sounds) > > I'd still say some sort of Mac. iMac for desktop, or a laptop. Plus they can > drive additional monitors with the addition of a simple plug, and the high > end iMac can drive two additional monitors. Even my 2006 iMac can drive an > additional monitor. And you also don't have to worry about viruses, windows > registry problems, driver issues, or any of the other headaches you get with > a PC. > > Plus, you get Time Machine, which is absolutely amazingly easy to use. I've > saved my self several times by having it on. Like if I made a change to a > score or a file and then wanted to go back to the old version. Boom, it's > there. > My point wasn't that he should buy a 300 dollar laptop, it was instead the nature of great deals on the website. They list many deals for a variety of computer products and types, not just laptops. But even so, for the price of a top end Apple iMac, you could have purchased several laptops over the course of a few years. Thanks, Kim ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: > That's what I think too. I have a 27" iMac, and it is satisfying and trouble > free. A little extra RAM can help. (Full disclosure - I've always used Macs > and have little experience with Windows. Still, I am confident in giving > this recommendation.) > > Chuck > I have a HP Pavillion 19 inch laptop and it's fantastic. And a lot cheaper than a Mac, and it has a Blu Ray DVD reader burner. Fast as hell, with a huge hard drive tons of RAM. HP is great with driver updates and diagnostics and their customer service support is fantastic (I had an issue with a DVD that was quickly solved by remote assistance from HP). Thanks Kim ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Playback Problem after Pizzicato
Turn Human Playback on and use pizz. and arco expressions that are NOT defined for playback. HP will catch your "pizz." and "arco" expressions and interpret accordingly. Keep in mind that pizz. volume for GPO strings is absurdly loud, so you will have to use hidden dynamics if you want realistic playback. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 23 May 2011, at 3:19 PM, Michael Lawlor wrote: > Noel, > Sorry for not being clear enough. The pizz. was taken from the default set, > but since I could not find an arco to counteract this, I set up my own. What > playback parameters should I create for this? I have found it confusing > because there are the parameters that work the "old" way and those for VST / > GPO instruments. I would like to use GPO. > Regards, > Michael > > - Original Message - >> Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 14:01:25 -0500 >> From: Noel Stoutenburg >> Subject: Re: [Finale] Playback Problem after Pizzicato >> To: >> Message-ID: <4dd95d85.20...@ticnet.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed >> >> Michael >> >> About the situation you describe: >> >>> I have just started (~30 bars) entering a work into Finale [2009] and I >>> have a problem with volume. There is a short passage of pizzicato followed >>> by a return to arco (the work is for string quartet and uses VST >>> instruments). The volume in the arco section is very quiet. If I change >>> the dynamics to ff, it makes no difference, but if I remove the pizz. >>> indication from the previous section then the volume is as expected. Is >>> this a known bug and is there a solution? >> >> You don't specify the source of the pizzicato and arco expressions you >> are using, that is, whether you used the ones included in the default >> expression library, whether you created your own, or whether perhaps you >> got the expressions from some other source. In any event, what you >> describe sounds to me to be what I would expect if the "pizz." >> expression was defined for playback, and the arco expression either was >> not defined, or was defined using a different parameter. >> >> And I would not expect dynamics to have an impact on the sound, unless >> the controller modified in the "pizz." expression was Key velocity, >> >> ns > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?
Though I don't see how a $300 laptop is going to be able to "grow" for a few years. Nor how it will handle playing back good quality sounds (NOT the Finale Software synth sounds, but more like the Garritan sounds) I'd still say some sort of Mac. iMac for desktop, or a laptop. Plus they can drive additional monitors with the addition of a simple plug, and the high end iMac can drive two additional monitors. Even my 2006 iMac can drive an additional monitor. And you also don't have to worry about viruses, windows registry problems, driver issues, or any of the other headaches you get with a PC. Plus, you get Time Machine, which is absolutely amazingly easy to use. I've saved my self several times by having it on. Like if I made a change to a score or a file and then wanted to go back to the old version. Boom, it's there. -- Eric Dannewitz Musician/Polymath On Monday, May 23, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: > > Deal News has wonderful daily listings for specials that they find via > the Internet. Some are amazing. I got a top notch laptop via their > website for 300.00. > > I highly suggest you get a RSS feed / alerts to their desktop specials . > > > Good luck, > > Kim > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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That's what I think too. I have a 27" iMac, and it is satisfying and trouble free. A little extra RAM can help. (Full disclosure - I've always used Macs and have little experience with Windows. Still, I am confident in giving this recommendation.) Chuck On May 23, 2011, at 12:10 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > Get an iMac. > > -- > Eric Dannewitz > Musician/Polymath > On Monday, May 23, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Lee Dengler wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> I need to purchase a new desktop computer. I am running Finale 2010 Windows >> at the present and will likely upgrade to 2012 when it comes out. I engrave >> full orchestrations and want to be able to play any and all of the sounds. >> I also want something that I will not outgrow in a few years. >> >> Any suggestions would greatly appreciated. >> >> Lee Dengler >> leedeng...@comcast.net >> >> >> Lee Dengler >> Consulting Editor, Jubilate Music >> Director, Goshen Community Chorale >> Minister of Music, College Mennonite Church >> Composer >> ___ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 1310 NW Naito Parkway #807 Portland, OR 97209-3162 phone: (503) 926-7952 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Playback Problem after Pizzicato
Noel, Sorry for not being clear enough. The pizz. was taken from the default set, but since I could not find an arco to counteract this, I set up my own. What playback parameters should I create for this? I have found it confusing because there are the parameters that work the "old" way and those for VST / GPO instruments. I would like to use GPO. Regards, Michael - Original Message - Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 14:01:25 -0500 From: Noel Stoutenburg Subject: Re: [Finale] Playback Problem after Pizzicato To: Message-ID: <4dd95d85.20...@ticnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Michael About the situation you describe: I have just started (~30 bars) entering a work into Finale [2009] and I have a problem with volume. There is a short passage of pizzicato followed by a return to arco (the work is for string quartet and uses VST instruments). The volume in the arco section is very quiet. If I change the dynamics to ff, it makes no difference, but if I remove the pizz. indication from the previous section then the volume is as expected. Is this a known bug and is there a solution? You don't specify the source of the pizzicato and arco expressions you are using, that is, whether you used the ones included in the default expression library, whether you created your own, or whether perhaps you got the expressions from some other source. In any event, what you describe sounds to me to be what I would expect if the "pizz." expression was defined for playback, and the arco expression either was not defined, or was defined using a different parameter. And I would not expect dynamics to have an impact on the sound, unless the controller modified in the "pizz." expression was Key velocity, ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?
> I need to purchase a new desktop computer. I am running Finale 2010 Windows > at the present and will likely upgrade to 2012 when it comes out. I engrave > full orchestrations and want to be able to play any and all of the sounds. > I also want something that I will not outgrow in a few years. > > Any suggestions would greatly appreciated. Deal News has wonderful daily listings for specials that they find via the Internet. Some are amazing. I got a top notch laptop via their website for 300.00. I highly suggest you get a RSS feed / alerts to their desktop specials . Good luck, Kim ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?
Get an iMac. -- Eric Dannewitz Musician/Polymath On Monday, May 23, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Lee Dengler wrote: > Hi All, > > I need to purchase a new desktop computer. I am running Finale 2010 Windows > at the present and will likely upgrade to 2012 when it comes out. I engrave > full orchestrations and want to be able to play any and all of the sounds. > I also want something that I will not outgrow in a few years. > > Any suggestions would greatly appreciated. > > Lee Dengler > leedeng...@comcast.net > > > Lee Dengler > Consulting Editor, Jubilate Music > Director, Goshen Community Chorale > Minister of Music, College Mennonite Church > Composer > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] New desktop computer suggestions?
Hi All, I need to purchase a new desktop computer. I am running Finale 2010 Windows at the present and will likely upgrade to 2012 when it comes out. I engrave full orchestrations and want to be able to play any and all of the sounds. I also want something that I will not outgrow in a few years. Any suggestions would greatly appreciated. Lee Dengler leedeng...@comcast.net Lee Dengler Consulting Editor, Jubilate Music Director, Goshen Community Chorale Minister of Music, College Mennonite Church Composer ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
