Re: [Finale] FINMAC - iKey?
Why do you need to replace quickeys, it works great. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup & Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *"If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!"* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 28 July 2018 at 21:36, GERALD BERG wrote: > Hello all > Was it iKey that was the best replacement for the old Quickkeys program? > TIA > Jerry > GJB > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
[Finale] Mac PDFWriter (Lisanet) Virtual PDF Printer issue
Mac specific convo: I've been using the virtual PDF printer "PDFwriter" by Lisanet ( https://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfwriterformac/ ) for some time with great results. It's been particularly useful when dropping multiple (sometimes huge amounts of) finale files directly onto the PDFwriter printer icon in the dock - it happily chugs through the queue at a great rate, producing PDFs that have been through all my systems and also that of the commercial printers for hundreds of books. I've noticed a difference however, between what is produced by Finale 2014.5 and the latest version of FInale (v25). [1] In Finale 2014.5, the PDFs are produced correctly. > Pages are setup in *Page Layout > Page Size* to A4 > System default paper size is set to A4 in system prefs (if this even matters) [2] In FInale v25 the PDFs produced by PDFwriter look like they've been printed to a longer page format. I still get a multipage PDF that looks valid, but the page layout is incorrect. See image: https://www.dropbox.com/s/goi2tnes52hkvuw/Finalev25PDFwriterError.jpg?dl=0 Note how the page ends midway through the bottom staff, and that the left and right margins are uneven. I've put together some workarounds such as *Graphics > Export Pages* and also *File > Print...* using various combinations of finalescript and Quickeys, but neither are fast in comparison, and are prone to asking whether something should be replaced if it already exists, which PDFwrite gets around by adding a job number prefix (not everyone will like that, I understand). I see that the following is present in Finale 2014.5 but not Finale v25, maybe this has something to do with it: *Finale Preferences > Save & Print > Use Finale's Page Orientation Instead Of The Printer's Page Orientation* Curiously, if I print directly from Finale using *File > Print*, and select the PDFwriter driver and "default settings" it works fine. I'm somewhat out of ideas where to go from here, having explored every avenue I can think of for the moment. Does anyone have any insight into why this is the case, and perhaps how to work around it? Kind regards, Simon Troup. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup & Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *"If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!"* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] What is the Finale strategy?
Thank you for this link Robert. You can sort by 'planned' and I hope that those things are carried through. Since the forums were closed I've lost a lot of interest in Finale. I use it all the time, but I no longer correspond regularly with people about it or champion it like I used to. I'd miss it if it disappeared, and would have to retrain to use something else, but frankly, I'm amazed and delighted that I've been able to use it without many problems for the last 10 years or more, throughout which it seem to have lived a rather fragile existence. Since about mid 2005 I consider every year a bonus :) Simon -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup & Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *"If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!"* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 19 April 2018 at 14:10, Robert Patterson <rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote: > Which functionality was lost v25? I've been on it so long I forgot. (The > biggest loss of functionality for me came in Fin09, when they dropped > note-attached expressions.) The main thing I remember in F25 is the screwed > up Mac Print Dialog. But I've learned to live with it. (Heck, I almost > don't even use it any more now that someone on this list turned me on to > Export Pages.) > > I don't expect we will see revolutionary changes to Finale anyt time soon. > But sfaik they are continuing to add incremental improvements. You can get > a sense of the kinds of issues they have planned to fix over at the Feature > Request Forum > <https://makemusic.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/community/topics/ > 200449177-Finale-Feature-Requests?sort_by=recent_activity>. > (Look for items marked "Planned".) Others (marked "Answered") usually > indicate sympathy and awareness of the issue. I can only some of hope those > will change to "Planned" at a future date. > > Over time, evolutionary change can seem revolutionary. I am pretty > astounded at the difference between F25 and any pre-F12 version. And even > the difference from F12 is noticeable. > > > On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 7:42 AM, Don Hart <donhartmu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Like watching paint dry. > > > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 5:59 PM Christopher Smith < > > christopher.sm...@videotron.ca> wrote: > > > > > Hahaha! Yes, of course! > > > > > > Christopher > > > > > > > On Apr 18, 2018, at 6:49 PM, SN jef chippewa < > > > shirl...@newmusicnotation.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > i find these tools quite useful, and they are entirely genre- and > > > platform-independent: they work just as awesomely for the newest of the > > new > > > music notation as for basically all traditional approaches to music > > > notation, western or other. > > > > https://youtu.be/mci6NVBJbvo > > > > > > > >> All that said, I’m always happy to be pointed to a technique or a > tool > > > I might have missed that solves problems like these and others. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > neueweise -- fonts for new music and traditional notation > > > > http://newmusicnotation.com/fonts > > > > > > > > shirling & neueweise | http://newmusicnotation.com > > > > new music notation + translation + arts management > > > > [FB] http://facebook.com/neueweise | [TW] > http://twitter.com/neueweise > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > Finale mailing list > > > > Finale@shsu.edu > > > > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > > > > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Finale mailing list > > > Finale@shsu.edu > > > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > > > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > > > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > ___ > > Finale mailing list > > Finale@shsu.edu > > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
[Finale] Time sig contextual menu
Does anyone know how you set a preset for the time signature contextual menu? I've got a time signature pattern that I need to use over and over again that isn't in there 7/8 (4+3) then 7/8 (4+3) then 2/8. It would be really handy to have 7/8 (4+3) in that list. Kind regards, Simon Troup. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup & Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *"If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!"* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Finale malware?
Something to do with: http://www.telerik.com/ -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup & Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *"If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!"* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 29 September 2017 at 19:20, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz <bath...@maltedmedia.com > wrote: > Hi all, > > Finale 25 Windows 10. > > Malwarebytes is blocking an outbound connection to > 007388f3ab7c4015923017ac3b30dcd0.monitor-eqatec.com > IP Address: 52.202.145.216 > > It's being made by Finale. Anybody know what this is? The report is new. > > Dennis > > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Help converting two Sibelius files to MusicXML
No Problem David. Problem solved, they have a 30 day trial of the new version! Music XML export from Sibelius to Finale is actually saving me time these days - who'd have thought. Previously it has been absolutely tragic for tab. Simon -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup & Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *"If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!"* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 5 December 2016 at 11:16, David H. Bailey <dhbaile...@comcast.net> wrote: > I'd offer to help, but you've got a later version of Sibelius than I > have, so that won't work. > > You might consider joining the Sibelius group at yahoogroups so that > someone with Sibelius8 (not that there are all that many who upgraded, > similar to the lack of enthusiasm here for Finale25) could do the > conversion for you. > > Sorry I can't help. > David H. Bailey > > On 12/4/2016 8:02 PM, Simon Troup wrote: > > They're on tour and can't access the files for a week. > > > > > > -- > > > > Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) > > http://www.digitalmusicart.com > > > > Partners: Simon Troup & Jennie Troup > > VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 > > > > *"If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... > really!"* > > > > *This email is a private communication between the sender and the > intended > > recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all > content, > > information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the > > author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without > > permission.* > > > > On 5 December 2016 at 01:01, David H. Bailey <dhbaile...@comcast.net> > wrote: > > > >> Ask whomever sent you those files to simply export as MusicXML from > >> Sibelius and send you those files. He/She can even download the full > >> Dolet plugin for Sibelius for free to get even more complete export. > >> > >> If he/she has Sibelius8 and they can send you Sibelius files, then they > >> can send you MusicXML files as well. > >> > >> David H. Bailey > >> > >> On 12/4/2016 1:45 PM, Simon Troup wrote: > >>> Hello, > >>> > >>> is anyone able to open two Sibelius scores for me and export them as > >>> MusicXML. I have Sibelius 7.5 but it seems these are from a newer > >> version. > >>> If I used Sibelius more than once every couple of years I'd update, but > >>> this would only lead to the most expensive 3 minutes of my life! > >>> > >>> Kind regards, > >>> > >>> Simon Troup > >>> > >>> -- > >>> > >>> Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) > >>> http://www.digitalmusicart.com > >>> > >>> Partners: Simon Troup & Jennie Troup > >>> VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 > >>> > >>> *"If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... > >> really!"* > >>> > >>> *This email is a private communication between the sender and the > >> intended > >>> recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all > >> content, > >>> information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the > >>> author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without > >>> permission.* > >>> ___ > >>> Finale mailing list > >>> Finale@shsu.edu > >>> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >>> > >>> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > >>> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> * > >> David H. Bailey > >> dhbaile...@comcast.net > >> http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com > >> ___ > >> Finale mailing list > >> Finale@shsu.edu > >> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >> > >> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > >> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > >> > > ___ > > Finale mailing list > > Finale@shsu.edu > > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > > > > > > -- > * > David H. Bailey > dhbaile...@comcast.net > http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Help converting two Sibelius files to MusicXML
They're on tour and can't access the files for a week. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup & Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *"If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!"* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 5 December 2016 at 01:01, David H. Bailey <dhbaile...@comcast.net> wrote: > Ask whomever sent you those files to simply export as MusicXML from > Sibelius and send you those files. He/She can even download the full > Dolet plugin for Sibelius for free to get even more complete export. > > If he/she has Sibelius8 and they can send you Sibelius files, then they > can send you MusicXML files as well. > > David H. Bailey > > On 12/4/2016 1:45 PM, Simon Troup wrote: > > Hello, > > > > is anyone able to open two Sibelius scores for me and export them as > > MusicXML. I have Sibelius 7.5 but it seems these are from a newer > version. > > If I used Sibelius more than once every couple of years I'd update, but > > this would only lead to the most expensive 3 minutes of my life! > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Simon Troup > > > > -- > > > > Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) > > http://www.digitalmusicart.com > > > > Partners: Simon Troup & Jennie Troup > > VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 > > > > *"If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... > really!"* > > > > *This email is a private communication between the sender and the > intended > > recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all > content, > > information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the > > author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without > > permission.* > > ___ > > Finale mailing list > > Finale@shsu.edu > > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > > > > > > -- > * > David H. Bailey > dhbaile...@comcast.net > http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
[Finale] Help converting two Sibelius files to MusicXML
Hello, is anyone able to open two Sibelius scores for me and export them as MusicXML. I have Sibelius 7.5 but it seems these are from a newer version. If I used Sibelius more than once every couple of years I'd update, but this would only lead to the most expensive 3 minutes of my life! Kind regards, Simon Troup -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup & Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *"If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!"* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Laserjet 5000 jams
I used to get symptoms like this occasionally when I switched to a much lighter grade of paper. Have you changed your paper stock recently? -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup & Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *"If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!"* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 23 December 2015 at 14:03, Johannes Gebauer <li...@musikmanufaktur.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > I wonder whether anyone can help me locate the problem which is causing > paper jams in my Laserjet 5000. > > Recently it started misbehaving, both feeding from the lower trays and > the manual feed tray. It seems that it feeds the paper all right but > then tries to feed another sheet immediately after. For a while it would > work by just feeding single sheets, but now it even reports a paper jam > when there is no second sheet on the tray. There isn't a jam, just > opening and closing it will reset it, but it happens pretty much every > time. > > The rollers and pads were all replaced about a year ago. > > Is there some sensor which doesn't see the paper anymore? This would > seem like the most likely problem to me. And can I fix this myself, or > is it time to get a new one? > > I love this printer for being able to print on A3. It's been serving me > well for a long time. > > Johannes > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
[Finale] Redraw slow? Update to new version?
I'm getting some horrific screen redraw slowdowns. Is there anything I can try to speed things back up? I was also wondering about whether to upgrade, to see if this issue goes away. I'm using an older Finale Mac 2014. I've avoided the bleeding edge release for so long that I've forgotten what to do to revert back in the event you run into problems. Simon Troup -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup & Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *"If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!"* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Is everyone allright?
Doesn't look like it. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup & Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *"If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!"* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 6 October 2015 at 22:15, Barbara Touburg <btoub...@online.nl> wrote: > I haven't received any messages for the last two days. Am I banned again? > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Exporting EPS
If you open it in illustrator, does it have an enormous amount of tracking set to it? -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 5 June 2015 at 14:38, Gippo Mercoli i...@clubgippo.com wrote: Hi everyone I've problema exporting pages in EPS format: an expression (rehersal) alligned with tre right barline, correctly in Finale, is moved about 200 epvus in the extracted eps file. I already tried to: -Exporting in other formats Such as pdf and had no problem -building a new file: the problem remains Thank you! -- Gippo Mercoli www.clubgippo.com www.ga-music.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Igor Engraver Classic
Hi Barbara Try the ellipsis (alt-semicolon on mac). That's what I see when I try to edit that font. Simon -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 5 May 2015 at 18:22, Barbara Touburg btoub...@online.nl wrote: I'm using this font for the accidentals, but I really can't find the natural between brackets. I'm finding it hard to believe that is isn't there. Could it be that my font file is corrupt? Where, oh, where is the bracketed natural? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
[Finale] Finalescript frustration
I'd be grateful for a little help with FinaleScript. For about 90 minutes now I've been trying every variation of command from thins I've found in the manual, forum, articles to get what I would have thought was a very straight forward script. This sort of thing happens every time I try and use finale script :( in fact, I asked pretty much the same question on the forum some time ago but no-ne could say how to do this directly in finalescript, but maybe someone here knows a solution? // work on layer 2 show active layer only select meas 2 menu item Utilities/Transpose… click radio Up click radio Diatonically pop-up second press ok // So far everything works up until click radio up, which doesn't trigger. Thanks for reading (if you got this far!). Simon -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Finalescript frustration
Hi Jan thanks for the input, those sort of commands don't appear to work on the mac otherwise that would be a good workaround in my situation. Simon -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 17 April 2015 at 20:20, Jan Angermüller j...@angermueller.com wrote: I am no Finalescript expert, but maybe you can find a workaround with the keys c and arrow up. When you're in the dialog, pressing c selecting chromatic and pressing arrow up selects Diatonically. Something like: type c (or type raw c ?) arrow up But I haven't tested it. I only the keystrokes in Finale2014/Windows. Jan Am 17.04.2015 um 20:46 schrieb Simon Troup: I'd be grateful for a little help with FinaleScript. For about 90 minutes now I've been trying every variation of command from thins I've found in the manual, forum, articles to get what I would have thought was a very straight forward script. This sort of thing happens every time I try and use finale script :( in fact, I asked pretty much the same question on the forum some time ago but no-ne could say how to do this directly in finalescript, but maybe someone here knows a solution? // work on layer 2 show active layer only select meas 2 menu item Utilities/Transpose… click radio Up click radio Diatonically pop-up second press ok // So far everything works up until click radio up, which doesn't trigger. Thanks for reading (if you got this far!). Simon -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu -- Jan Angermüller Jevenstedter Str. 80 22547 Hamburg Tel. 040 - 28 94 84 82 www.angermueller.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Finalescript frustration
Hey Allen yeah the code seems to need an ellipsis (alt+colon) to call the menu Tranpose Took me a while even to figure out that particular piece of voodoo! Simon -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 17 April 2015 at 19:51, Allen Fisher al...@fisherartandtech.com wrote: Hey Simon That sounds like a bug in the plugin, sadly. Your code looks right It doesn't seem to want to recognize that radio button. Allen Sent from my iPhone On Apr 17, 2015, at 1:46 PM, Simon Troup simon.tr...@digitalmusicart.com wrote: I'd be grateful for a little help with FinaleScript. For about 90 minutes now I've been trying every variation of command from thins I've found in the manual, forum, articles to get what I would have thought was a very straight forward script. This sort of thing happens every time I try and use finale script :( in fact, I asked pretty much the same question on the forum some time ago but no-ne could say how to do this directly in finalescript, but maybe someone here knows a solution? // work on layer 2 show active layer only select meas 2 menu item Utilities/Transpose… click radio Up click radio Diatonically pop-up second press ok // So far everything works up until click radio up, which doesn't trigger. Thanks for reading (if you got this far!). Simon -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Request for quotation
Sorry, that was my advice. I would try to agree to trial a small piece of the work first on a fixed budget hourly rate so that both parties could see what they're getting, and how long it would take, before committing to anything larger. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 5 February 2015 at 12:37, Marcello Noia marcellon...@gmail.com wrote: Yes but what could be your advice? Il 05/02/2015 13:20, Simon Troup ha scritto: You'd have to contact the guy for more info before you could possibly quote for that work. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 5 February 2015 at 12:13, Marcello Noiamarcellon...@gmail.com wrote: How much could be the fee for that? A fee for each page? An hourly fee? Il 05/02/2015 12:24, Simon Troup ha scritto: I've had a query from someone for some engraving work. I'm too busy to accept anything else at the moment but asked the guy if he wanted me to try and find someone else from the mailing list. The details are as follows. If you are interested (and I'll admit this looks a little odd!) contact taxavoi...@wanadoo.fr. I should add that this is a query that came out of the blue, and not someone I've ever worked for. Simon Troup - Dear Sirs, Would you please build up an estimate for some of my clients. They are aiming at converting into optical music recognized version (XML format) the following : - 1.000 pages in pdf from a famous classical composer - 10.000 pages in .pdf from another classical composer - 100 pages in .pdf from a modern musician The sources are reliable and coming from public international data base for classical composers. What would be the price and how long would it take to engrave it ? -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Request for quotation
You'd have to contact the guy for more info before you could possibly quote for that work. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 5 February 2015 at 12:13, Marcello Noia marcellon...@gmail.com wrote: How much could be the fee for that? A fee for each page? An hourly fee? Il 05/02/2015 12:24, Simon Troup ha scritto: I've had a query from someone for some engraving work. I'm too busy to accept anything else at the moment but asked the guy if he wanted me to try and find someone else from the mailing list. The details are as follows. If you are interested (and I'll admit this looks a little odd!) contact taxavoi...@wanadoo.fr. I should add that this is a query that came out of the blue, and not someone I've ever worked for. Simon Troup - Dear Sirs, Would you please build up an estimate for some of my clients. They are aiming at converting into optical music recognized version (XML format) the following : - 1.000 pages in pdf from a famous classical composer - 10.000 pages in .pdf from another classical composer - 100 pages in .pdf from a modern musician The sources are reliable and coming from public international data base for classical composers. What would be the price and how long would it take to engrave it ? -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Request for quotation
I presume this is someone's side project, someone making an app from out of copyright classical music, something like Project Gutenberg for example. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 5 February 2015 at 14:14, Anne Erickson gnume...@gmail.com wrote: May is undoubtedly an understatement. On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 9:08 AM, David Woodard davidcwoodar...@gmail.com wrote: H. the email address may say it all. D On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 7:45 AM, Simon Troup simon.tr...@digitalmusicart.com wrote: Sorry, that was my advice. I would try to agree to trial a small piece of the work first on a fixed budget hourly rate so that both parties could see what they're getting, and how long it would take, before committing to anything larger. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 5 February 2015 at 12:37, Marcello Noia marcellon...@gmail.com wrote: Yes but what could be your advice? Il 05/02/2015 13:20, Simon Troup ha scritto: You'd have to contact the guy for more info before you could possibly quote for that work. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 5 February 2015 at 12:13, Marcello Noiamarcellon...@gmail.com wrote: How much could be the fee for that? A fee for each page? An hourly fee? Il 05/02/2015 12:24, Simon Troup ha scritto: I've had a query from someone for some engraving work. I'm too busy to accept anything else at the moment but asked the guy if he wanted me to try and find someone else from the mailing list. The details are as follows. If you are interested (and I'll admit this looks a little odd!) contact taxavoi...@wanadoo.fr. I should add that this is a query that came out of the blue, and not someone I've ever worked for. Simon Troup - Dear Sirs, Would you please build up an estimate for some of my clients. They are aiming at converting into optical music recognized version (XML format) the following : - 1.000 pages in pdf from a famous classical composer - 10.000 pages in .pdf from another classical composer - 100 pages in .pdf from a modern musician The sources are reliable and coming from public international data base for classical composers. What would be the price and how long would it take to engrave it ? -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
[Finale] Request for quotation
I've had a query from someone for some engraving work. I'm too busy to accept anything else at the moment but asked the guy if he wanted me to try and find someone else from the mailing list. The details are as follows. If you are interested (and I'll admit this looks a little odd!) contact taxavoi...@wanadoo.fr. I should add that this is a query that came out of the blue, and not someone I've ever worked for. Simon Troup - Dear Sirs, Would you please build up an estimate for some of my clients. They are aiming at converting into optical music recognized version (XML format) the following : - 1.000 pages in pdf from a famous classical composer - 10.000 pages in .pdf from another classical composer - 100 pages in .pdf from a modern musician The sources are reliable and coming from public international data base for classical composers. What would be the price and how long would it take to engrave it ? -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Losing my Way
I use this all the time, and also you can specify things being 2/3 and 1/3 the width by using absurd numbers such as 2 and 1, as long as the total is bigger than expected I think it basically defaults to proportional based on the numbers you enter (hope that makes sense). -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 4 January 2015 at 18:03, David Wolfson da...@davidwolfsonmusic.net wrote: I believe if you select a number of measures (with the Measure Tool selected), and type a large minimum width in the text box labeled as such, they will all nicely settle into the same width once you've locked the system and updated the layout. David Wolfson davidwolfsonmusic.net On Jan 4, 2015, at 1:00 PM, finale-requ...@shsu.edu finale-requ...@shsu.edu wrote: 3. I haven't found a way to respace a number of bars if e.g. I want to enlarge a multi-measure rest and then space the remaining bars in the line equally. I'm puzzled that it doesn't seem to be a possibility related to the menu that appears when I right click on one of the measure spacing handles. I'm sure I must be missing somethin ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Re(2): from Finale's new CEO
As far as I can tell (I'm no expert), the transition of Finale from Codewarrior to Xcode, OS9 to OSX, C++ to Obj C, Carbon to Cocoa etc. - all this stuff has taken a monumental amount of work, and literally years to accomplish. I know that Finale doesn't currently have the solid rep that a hugely resourced company like Adobe can deliver, but (I've said it before and I'll say it again) I stand in awe of what the Finale team has done just to have steered it through the fast pace and ever changing goalposts of the Apple platform changes of the last decade. I've feared for it so many times, and I'm super-glad that it's still with us. Of course there remains much to do, I'm not ignoring that, but I'm heartened by the new message and the presence of some familiar team members. I think your analogy sums it up very well Giovanni. Simon -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 8 December 2014 at 10:47, Giovanni Andreani l...@giovanniandreani.com wrote: That caught my attention to, much a sto say we can't keep adding bricks to this huge building, if we want it to be higher, modern and nice to look at we'll have to rebuild it from the foundations. That's the advantage Sibelius has compared ti Finale. Sounds interesting! Giovanni ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] from Finale's new CEO
Very please to see Michael Johnson's name in that list. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 7 December 2014 at 09:13, Steve Parker st...@pinkrat.co.uk wrote: The first order of business will be to shore up and modernize the systems and processes we use for building Finale, which means we are not racing to release another upgrade. Look for us to deliver several more incremental updates over the coming year to improve stability and speed. We’re going to take the time to get it right. Quality is paramount; it leads to trust, and I’m focused on earning it. It will take time, and it will take action, and it will take some patience on everyone’s part.” :-) Steve P. On 7 Dec 2014, at 05:49, David McKay davidmcka...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for that link. I'd have been completely out of the loop if you hadn't posted it, Ryan. David McKay Sent from my iPad On 7 Dec 2014, at 4:20 pm, Ryan ry.squa...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't seen this posted to this forum yet, so here it is. (If it was posted already, I apologize.) http://www.finalemusic.com/blog/meet-gear-fisher-makemusic-ceo/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Finale update is f$$$$$ed
Not generally a Mac thing. I just updated to Mac Fin 2014d today on OSX 10.9.5 without any issues. First impressions are that it seems faster. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 3 December 2014 at 21:50, David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com wrote: I'm sorry to learn about your hassles with the upgrade -- It must be a Mac thing, because I upgraded my two Windows computers and they upgraded just fine to 2014d. David H. Bailey On 12/3/2014 3:03 PM, J D Thomas wrote: I updated Finale Mac from 2014b to seeming d via the in app update. The POS updater gave me c. Downloaded the d updater directly and launching Finale a dialog tells me some txt file is missing or corrupt and it abruptly quits. MM, you suck big time, costing time this morning. I should send you the fucking bill!!! J D Thomas ThomaStudios ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Finale Digest, Vol 136, Issue 16
On 28 November 2014 at 11:35, Steve Parker st...@pinkrat.co.uk wrote: Music is not an extreme sport where the ‘real men’ don’t use safety kit….. Well said that man! -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Music Editor for Macs
I've been using Fission by Rogue Amoeba. It's not free, but it is cheap. It particularly suited my needs because it can bulk edit large audio files down into smaller sections. Like anything, whether you like it or not will depend on wholly if its feature set matches you needs. From my perspective it's the perfect lightweight audio editor, and replaced audacity. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 4 November 2014 11:39, Giovanni Andreani l...@giovanniandreani.com wrote: Give a look at Reaper; it's not free, though it stands at a higher level than audacity when it comes to post production. Giovanni Giovanni Andreani www.giovanniandreani.com After recording on my Zoom H2, I've been using Audacity to process the .wav sound file for editing and burning onto CD. Unfortunately, support for Audacity ends at Mac 10.9, so I'll be without a solution once (if) I upgrade to 10.10 Yosemite. Have any Mac users found a replacement music-editing program for Audacity? I don't suppose this is a hidden feature of Finale 2014 I haven't found yet... Thurletta Brown-Gavins ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] OT: Office Chair
On 15 October 2014 22:40, Lee Actor lee.ac...@comcast.net wrote: Herman Miller Aeron 900 quid for a chair! I'd expect a hover chair for that kind of money... -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] OT: Office Chair
I'd be tempted at $500, that sounds a lot more reasonable. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 15 October 2014 23:01, Lee Actor lee.ac...@comcast.net wrote: Don't know if prices are higher in the UK; you can get the basic model in the US for $500, though the one I'd get is ~$600. -Lee -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Simon Troup Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 2:43 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: Office Chair On 15 October 2014 22:40, Lee Actor lee.ac...@comcast.net wrote: Herman Miller Aeron 900 quid for a chair! I'd expect a hover chair for that kind of money... -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] The Dutch Heart and soul list
It is interesting, although overall I thought it looked very conservative. Is that a reflection of the radio station? -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 6 October 2014 18:13, Lawrence Yates yateslawre...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you - now I'll click the link! (Please forgive my paranoia). Cheers! I am very sorry. Not to worry. Those are links to lists of the top 300 of the most favourite pieces of music, according to the listeners to the Dutch classical radio. The Matteus Passion is at number 1, not surprisingly. This is the average Dutch taste... ___ -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Finale Book Author
Nothing wrong with a good beginners book - writing them is quite an art demanding an empathy for how things are experienced by someone without any of the advantages of your own experience. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 3 October 2014 21:02, Dean Rosenthal deanrosent...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting, David. I found my copy of Trailblazer a complete waste of money. Go online and read the user manual - it's free and Mark doesn't cover any new ground - in fact, he leaves out everything beyond advanced beginner. Then, go to the forums and, also, Google your notation question for more advanced needs. Or subscribe to this listserve! But don't waste your money, the book isn't anything you don't already know. Even if you've just started. Dean -- Dean Rosenthal www.deanrosenthal.org On Oct 3, 2014, at 7:03 AM, David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com wrote: You must have a different Trailblazer series than I have -- the Finale 2014: A Trailblazer Guide certainly does discuss the Score Manager, and it's listed in the clear index at the back of the book. It also discusses FinaleScript -- again, that's listed in the clear index at the back of the book. And I checked again in Finale 2012: A Trailblazer Guide and both of those items are discussed also and are clearly listed in the index, too. Perhaps you should actually buy the book and sit down and read it before telling people what it does or doesn't include. From the point of view of a would-be engraver the Trailblazer guides are an excellent resource. From the point of view of a professional engraver already working in the field it still is a good resource for each new version because it does document the behavior of the new version, which can be especially important for someone making a jump from several versions earlier. I think Mark Johnson has done an excellent job with the Trailblazer series and it surprised me to learn that some other publisher is looking to publish a book on Finale. What these books don't do (and don't claim to do, so it shouldn't be held against them) is to serve as a music engraving handbook. So for a would-be engraver (which term implies people who don't yet have experience using a computer for engraving music) this won't teach them about music notation nor common practices. There are other excellent books for people to learn about music notation from. People have to already know what properly engraved music looks like -- if they don't then they need to study published music and find what they need/want to have their engraved music look like. The Trailblazer books are intended only to serve as guides to help Finale users get the most out of Finale. What people do with it (i.e. how their engraved music ends up looking) is up to them. David H. Bailey On 10/2/2014 7:57 PM, John Witmer wrote: It sure would be a service to the industry if someone were to write a DEFINITIVE guide to Finale. The so-called trailbazer series have been nothing more than a compilation of the rough introductions to each of the main segments of Finale. Not only do they not touch the more difficult parts, they don't even have an index that is worth much. For example they don't evem discuss the Score Manager or how to write scripts. It just seems to be a list of the items in the table of contents. A well written guide from the point of view of a would-be music engraver would be far more useful than for just the next isssue of Finale. Heck, you could probably sell a copy to 90% of the readers of this site. Chordially, John Witmer Clemson Downs Retirement Center - Original Message - From: Simon Troup To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale Book Author Damn Jef, you turned it into a thread... lol -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 2 October 2014 20:37, Simon Troup simon.tr...@digitalmusicart.com wrote
[Finale] Finale Book Author
I've been contacted by a publisher to write a Finale How To book, but I can't personally commit to the deadline, it's around a month. I don't want to start a thread about this but if anyone is interested you can you contact me directly on simon.tr...@digitalmusicart.com and I'll put you in touch. Simon Troup -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Finale Book Author
I believe that the deadline was set some time ago - the book was scheduled and someone dropped out. Hence, the deadline is now ridiculous. However, they know it and it's probably more a case of as soon as. Someone may have a bunch of unpublished tuition materials from a course or some such that would act as a good head start though, so you never know. My involvement was simply to have been offered it, and as I can't do it, at least to *attempt* to find someone who could do a proper job, because one way or another they'll probably end up publishing something, and if it's about finale I'd rather it was a credit to our community. Simon -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 2 October 2014 20:16, SN jef chippewa shirl...@newmusicnotation.com wrote: i can't imagine what the budget would need to be for me to willingly set aside a month of my life to write a how to book on finale for an obscure publisher that will probably become obsolete (or perhaps out of print) with the next version. seriously!??!?! a MONTH?!?!?! sounds like not a very serious publisher. you could perhaps get a secondary school level beginner's guide ready in a month... (simon: no offense meant to you of course!) I've been contacted by a publisher to write a Finale How To book, but I can't personally commit to the deadline, it's around a month. I don't want to start a thread about this... that's ok, i'll do it for you -- shirling neueweise new music notation + translation + arts management mailto:shirl...@newmusicnotation.com http://newmusicnotation.com | http://www.facebook.com/neueweise ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Finale Book Author
Damn Jef, you turned it into a thread... lol -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 2 October 2014 20:37, Simon Troup simon.tr...@digitalmusicart.com wrote: I believe that the deadline was set some time ago - the book was scheduled and someone dropped out. Hence, the deadline is now ridiculous. However, they know it and it's probably more a case of as soon as. Someone may have a bunch of unpublished tuition materials from a course or some such that would act as a good head start though, so you never know. My involvement was simply to have been offered it, and as I can't do it, at least to *attempt* to find someone who could do a proper job, because one way or another they'll probably end up publishing something, and if it's about finale I'd rather it was a credit to our community. Simon -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 2 October 2014 20:16, SN jef chippewa shirl...@newmusicnotation.com wrote: i can't imagine what the budget would need to be for me to willingly set aside a month of my life to write a how to book on finale for an obscure publisher that will probably become obsolete (or perhaps out of print) with the next version. seriously!??!?! a MONTH?!?!?! sounds like not a very serious publisher. you could perhaps get a secondary school level beginner's guide ready in a month... (simon: no offense meant to you of course!) I've been contacted by a publisher to write a Finale How To book, but I can't personally commit to the deadline, it's around a month. I don't want to start a thread about this... that's ok, i'll do it for you -- shirling neueweise new music notation + translation + arts management mailto:shirl...@newmusicnotation.com http://newmusicnotation.com | http://www.facebook.com/neueweise ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Finale Book Author
I've been informed the publisher now has sufficient interest. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 2 October 2014 20:38, Simon Troup simon.tr...@digitalmusicart.com wrote: Damn Jef, you turned it into a thread... lol -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 2 October 2014 20:37, Simon Troup simon.tr...@digitalmusicart.com wrote: I believe that the deadline was set some time ago - the book was scheduled and someone dropped out. Hence, the deadline is now ridiculous. However, they know it and it's probably more a case of as soon as. Someone may have a bunch of unpublished tuition materials from a course or some such that would act as a good head start though, so you never know. My involvement was simply to have been offered it, and as I can't do it, at least to *attempt* to find someone who could do a proper job, because one way or another they'll probably end up publishing something, and if it's about finale I'd rather it was a credit to our community. Simon -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 2 October 2014 20:16, SN jef chippewa shirl...@newmusicnotation.com wrote: i can't imagine what the budget would need to be for me to willingly set aside a month of my life to write a how to book on finale for an obscure publisher that will probably become obsolete (or perhaps out of print) with the next version. seriously!??!?! a MONTH?!?!?! sounds like not a very serious publisher. you could perhaps get a secondary school level beginner's guide ready in a month... (simon: no offense meant to you of course!) I've been contacted by a publisher to write a Finale How To book, but I can't personally commit to the deadline, it's around a month. I don't want to start a thread about this... that's ok, i'll do it for you -- shirling neueweise new music notation + translation + arts management mailto:shirl...@newmusicnotation.com http://newmusicnotation.com | http://www.facebook.com/neueweise ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Archive Project
I'd just drop them on LisaNet PDFWriter about 100 at a time. Seems to be much faster than using FinaleScript. http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfwriterformac/ I'm sure there are numerous ways of doing it. Archives tend to become unusable with OS changes etc, might be worth creating a musicXML file to save alongside everything else, but that's not my speciality - just trying to think how you might best future proof everything. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 30 September 2014 21:34, Dick Hauser rdhau...@comcast.net wrote: I would like to archive about 82 meg worth of Finale files (2012 and earlier). The kindest thing to do would be to create a PDF in addition to saving the .mus file, but there are about 1,200 files. I can’t see how the process of creating a PDF could be automated, but perhaps some of you have ideas?I suppose I could at least include a copy of Mac and Win PrintMusic, but then we’re talking a bit of cost ($120 or so). Mac FIN 2014/2012 10.9.5 Dick H OlyWa ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Michael (is) Good
By which you are confirming ongoing development of Finale? -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 11 September 2014 18:06, Good, Michael mg...@makemusic.com wrote: Thanks to Robert, C., and David for the kind words. I apologize for the delay in replying, but this came in while I was on vacation over the Labor Day holiday. My Finale blog post was written shortly before the Peaksware transaction, but it still reflects Finale's direction. Naturally the exact path will be different with Peaksware, but the goals for the product have not changed: http://www.finalemusic.com/blog/finale-2014-looking-back-looking-forward/ You can learn more about my music and software activities at my Songs and Schemas website and blog: http://michaelgood.info Best regards, Michael Good VP of RD MakeMusic, Inc. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Won't hide empty staves
Hi Richard sorry I should have been more specific. Usually when you have a bunch of staves showing you can select the staff tool, then select all (cmd-A) and right click on ANY of the handles and choose Hide empty staves and it will hide the staves. Yesterday I came across a file where selecting the contextual menu using the handle on the TOP stave in the group would work but none of the others would, trying to issue the Hide empty staves command from any other handle would fail. Or maybe there are certain conditions related to this that I'm not familiar with?! Simon -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 4 August 2014 17:41, Richard Huggins huggin...@yahoo.com wrote: I'll be more specific. I have a choral piece with a piano intro of 7 measures and I wish to hide the vocal staves for that system. Then the ladies sing alone for awhile, so I want to hide the men's stave on that system. I have highlighted that system and invoked Hide Empty Staves. All that happens is that the handles on the page blink off-on. Previously I had this page at 90% and everythign worked fine. At 85% it does not work. Strange also is that one empty stave is displaying in that piano intro system when there are two empty staves in play. In other words, it's hiding one of them, not the other. I tried converting to Show Empty Staves then starting over but it didn't work. One went away, one stayed. I did clear the empty measures...several times :) As for the handles, I see only one per stave (staff tool selected). On Sunday, August 3, 2014 8:51 PM, Simon Troup simon.tr...@digitalmusicart.com wrote: Hi Richard Strangely enough I had something very similar about 20 minutes ago, and was able to do it only by clicking on the top handle of the group. Are you clicking on the lowest handle in the group that you are trying to hide? Not seen this before today. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 4 August 2014 02:25, Richard Huggins huggin...@yahoo.com wrote: FINMAC2012 I have two systems that will not hide their empty staves. They used to, but after altering the layout they won't now. I have made sure the empty staves are clean (actually empty) and that the correct staff attributes are checked. Not sure where I go from here to try. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Won't hide empty staves
Sorry just noticed your comment about 85%, curiously I'm working at a staff reduction of 85% too, I wonder if this is a voodoo number responsible for a bug under various conditions. Then again, it could just be a coincidence - enormous conspiracy theories start this way... -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 4 August 2014 17:51, Simon Troup simon.tr...@digitalmusicart.com wrote: Hi Richard sorry I should have been more specific. Usually when you have a bunch of staves showing you can select the staff tool, then select all (cmd-A) and right click on ANY of the handles and choose Hide empty staves and it will hide the staves. Yesterday I came across a file where selecting the contextual menu using the handle on the TOP stave in the group would work but none of the others would, trying to issue the Hide empty staves command from any other handle would fail. Or maybe there are certain conditions related to this that I'm not familiar with?! Simon -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 4 August 2014 17:41, Richard Huggins huggin...@yahoo.com wrote: I'll be more specific. I have a choral piece with a piano intro of 7 measures and I wish to hide the vocal staves for that system. Then the ladies sing alone for awhile, so I want to hide the men's stave on that system. I have highlighted that system and invoked Hide Empty Staves. All that happens is that the handles on the page blink off-on. Previously I had this page at 90% and everythign worked fine. At 85% it does not work. Strange also is that one empty stave is displaying in that piano intro system when there are two empty staves in play. In other words, it's hiding one of them, not the other. I tried converting to Show Empty Staves then starting over but it didn't work. One went away, one stayed. I did clear the empty measures...several times :) As for the handles, I see only one per stave (staff tool selected). On Sunday, August 3, 2014 8:51 PM, Simon Troup simon.tr...@digitalmusicart.com wrote: Hi Richard Strangely enough I had something very similar about 20 minutes ago, and was able to do it only by clicking on the top handle of the group. Are you clicking on the lowest handle in the group that you are trying to hide? Not seen this before today. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 4 August 2014 02:25, Richard Huggins huggin...@yahoo.com wrote: FINMAC2012 I have two systems that will not hide their empty staves. They used to, but after altering the layout they won't now. I have made sure the empty staves are clean (actually empty) and that the correct staff attributes are checked. Not sure where I go from here to try. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr
Re: [Finale] Won't hide empty staves
Clearly, unless it's even more insidious than that, 85%, tenor clef, sharp key sigs... -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 4 August 2014 18:33, David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com wrote: On 8/4/2014 12:53 PM, Simon Troup wrote: Sorry just noticed your comment about 85%, curiously I'm working at a staff reduction of 85% too, I wonder if this is a voodoo number responsible for a bug under various conditions. Then again, it could just be a coincidence - enormous conspiracy theories start this way... There have been bugs in Finale over the 20+years I've been using it which only appeared at specific percentages. But it's easy enough to test -- he can go back to 90% and see if the problem is still there. Or he could try 86% or 84% and see if the problem is still there. -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Won't hide empty staves
Hi Richard Strangely enough I had something very similar about 20 minutes ago, and was able to do it only by clicking on the top handle of the group. Are you clicking on the lowest handle in the group that you are trying to hide? Not seen this before today. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 4 August 2014 02:25, Richard Huggins huggin...@yahoo.com wrote: FINMAC2012 I have two systems that will not hide their empty staves. They used to, but after altering the layout they won't now. I have made sure the empty staves are clean (actually empty) and that the correct staff attributes are checked. Not sure where I go from here to try. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Finale 2014: Looking back, looking forward
Agreed with Allen, nice summary. If I recall Allen, wasn't the data for Quicklook once stored in the resource fork, which meant that it was broken for those of us using SVN for Finale files? I wonder if I could quickly raise that so that we don't get back into that situation again. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 31 July 2014 22:31, Allen Fisher al...@fisherartandtech.com wrote: Spotlight hooks into the OS's search system. Depending on what you implement in your exporter, you can search on things like clef, key, time, composer, etcetera. IIRC you could search for instruments in a document. Really is handy when you have a lot of files and need to find a subset quickly. The other thing QuickLook gives you is a view of your files in the Cover Flow view in Finder windows. I used these things a lot and it's a huge bummer they are on hiatus. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 31, 2014, at 3:26 PM, Steve Parker st...@pinkrat.co.uk wrote: Quicklook lets you hit the space bar and see the score, scroll through it etc. without opening Finale or the file. If you're looking through twenty versions of something for a particular thing Quicklook is immediate rather than opening and closing the files. Or for something like a quick check through a folder of orchestral parts. Not having quicklook would be like having no Return key. Of course you can still get stuff done, but not efficiently. Steve P. On 31 Jul 2014, at 19:29, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote: I have no idea what Quicklook and Spotlight are. Are these Mac things that allow you to preview and print the document without actually opening in Finale? I could see that could be useful, but that hasn't been a deal breaker for me, as I've never had that capability in the first place. It sounds like the good news is that because of the new future-oriented file system, once those tools are working, they should continue to work on future releases with minimal or no development work, and that means development resources could be put against other problems. This is the frustration of doing a major architectural upgrade to a rather old codebase. Users get the impression that there are few benefits for such a long wait. But the benefits are there -- they are just realized over a longer time horizon. On 7/30/2014 3:59 PM, Steve Parker wrote: I'm coming to this late.. So Finale 2014 doesn't work with quicklook?? That would dealbreak an upgrade.. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] music (plate) engraving videos - suggestions?
Haven't seen the Halstan one before, fascinating. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 12 June 2014 23:38, SN jef chippewa shirl...@newmusicnotation.com wrote: There was an interesting video on the Henle site a few years ago. It may not be as technical but it was a good one. hi john, thanks. yeah, two of the vids in my links are henle, you are probably referring to sharp as a tack. the 3rd link is a more substantial video by henle, but along the same lines. Sharp as a Tack -- Music Engraving: an Art and a Craft http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5uPPJj_M_o Music Printing and Notation: The [Halstan Process] Hhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rlp0Zo7xewQ Music Engraving on Metal Plates http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=345o3Wu95Qo -- BLOCK SEMINAR (18hrs): score design, function and role instructor: jef chippewa 25-27 jun @ CMMAS (morelia, mexico) http://cmmas.org/cmmas_eventos.php?lan=esid=904 LECTURE-RECITAL: problematics of electroacoustic notation 14-17 aug @ toronto int. EA symposium (canada) http://www.facebook.com/events/484751998312109 shirling neueweise new music notation + translation + arts management mailto:shirl...@newmusicnotation.com http://newmusicnotation.com | http://www.facebook.com/neueweise ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Chord symbol question
Hi John I've often suggested offsets for such scenarios but never, until you've mentioned this, found anyone else who was bothered by Finale's lack of precision in this respect. My suffix libraries include a duplicate set of suffixes which start about 5 EVPU further to the right for those I use most often. You'll probably find my posts about it in the Finale forums by searching for Chord Suffix Kerning or similar. Then again, maybe this has been updated, or there's a better way to do it, so I'm very interested to see what anyone else has to say about it. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 15 May 2014 15:56, John Roberts an...@nycap.rr.com wrote: I'm finding that when I add a chord suffix to an altered chord, eg F#7, the suffix is too close to the # sign. It's fine with a plain chord letter name. Is there a way to add some space after the accidental? I suppose I could create a whole duplicate set of symbols with a little extra space before each one but this seems overkill. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Chord symbol question
I think all that's required is an Horizontal offset for chords with alterations setting. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 15 May 2014 17:01, Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.cawrote: I'm bugged by it. In fact the thing that bugs me most is that if you open up a bit of space to allow for the sharp, then a root WITHOUT an alteration seems to have too BIG of a gap. I created a whole set of custom suffixes, but of course Finale being what it is, they took me a very long time and I'm still not happy with them, partly because of the gap problem. Christopher On Thu May 15, at ThursdayMay 15 11:02 AM, Simon Troup wrote: Hi John I've often suggested offsets for such scenarios but never, until you've mentioned this, found anyone else who was bothered by Finale's lack of precision in this respect. My suffix libraries include a duplicate set of suffixes which start about 5 EVPU further to the right for those I use most often. You'll probably find my posts about it in the Finale forums by searching for Chord Suffix Kerning or similar. Then again, maybe this has been updated, or there's a better way to do it, so I'm very interested to see what anyone else has to say about it. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 15 May 2014 15:56, John Roberts an...@nycap.rr.com wrote: I'm finding that when I add a chord suffix to an altered chord, eg F#7, the suffix is too close to the # sign. It's fine with a plain chord letter name. Is there a way to add some space after the accidental? I suppose I could create a whole duplicate set of symbols with a little extra space before each one but this seems overkill. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Chord symbol question
Lol, Christopher, yes, the Window Of Shame. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 15 May 2014 22:26, Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.cawrote: Once you get a nice library set up (with that tiny little un-resizeable edit window where the nudge buttons don't work!) it is pretty painless. I have many, many issues with the chord tool, though. Christopher On Thu May 15, at ThursdayMay 15 5:23 PM, John Roberts wrote: Thank you both for the input. I've usually used lyrics for chord symbols, using one of the Metronome fonts which mixes music symbols with texts and has a nice set of superscript numbers, but I was getting a random bug in Fin2012 where lyrics would suddenly get out of sync with their corresponding music. 2014 crashes too much so I went back to 2012, and decided to try the chord tool more seriously. But I don't much like the results, or the effort/results ratio. John On 5/15/14, 12:22 PM, Simon Troup wrote: I think all that's required is an Horizontal offset for chords with alterations setting. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 15 May 2014 17:01, Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.ca wrote: I'm bugged by it. In fact the thing that bugs me most is that if you open up a bit of space to allow for the sharp, then a root WITHOUT an alteration seems to have too BIG of a gap. I created a whole set of custom suffixes, but of course Finale being what it is, they took me a very long time and I'm still not happy with them, partly because of the gap problem. Christopher On Thu May 15, at ThursdayMay 15 11:02 AM, Simon Troup wrote: Hi John I've often suggested offsets for such scenarios but never, until you've mentioned this, found anyone else who was bothered by Finale's lack of precision in this respect. My suffix libraries include a duplicate set of suffixes which start about 5 EVPU further to the right for those I use most often. You'll probably find my posts about it in the Finale forums by searching for Chord Suffix Kerning or similar. Then again, maybe this has been updated, or there's a better way to do it, so I'm very interested to see what anyone else has to say about it. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* On 15 May 2014 15:56, John Roberts an...@nycap.rr.com wrote: I'm finding that when I add a chord suffix to an altered chord, eg F#7, the suffix is too close to the # sign. It's fine with a plain chord letter name. Is there a way to add some space after the accidental? I suppose I could create a whole duplicate set of symbols with a little extra space before each one but this seems overkill. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
[Finale] IgorEngraverClassic Font
Does anyone have a copy of Igor Engraver Classic? I'm presuming it's a music font for Igor engraver. It was used in an old score I've been tasked with updating but I don't have a copy of the font. I tried contacting Noteheads, the makers of Igor Engraver but the site doesn't appear to have been updated for years and the email address bounced back for several days with mailbox full messages so I'm concluding that it's an abandoned project. I have no intention of using the font for anything other than ripping a glyph chart so that I can replace any characters used with something more appropriate. Regards Simon Troup -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] IgorEngraverClassic Font
Thanks everyone. A kind soul has provided me with everything I need. -- Simon Troup | BA Hons (Mus) http://www.digitalmusicart.com Partners: Simon Troup Jennie Troup VAT Registration: 982 4230 17 *If you can twang it, we can engrave it. Seriously, we can. No... really!* *This email is a private communication between the sender and the intended recipient. If you received this email in error be advised that all content, information and files contained in the message remain copyright of the author, artist or original copyright holder and may not be used without permission.* ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] batch printing to PDF using a script?
You can't do this in snow leopard (see http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/509/cpsid_50981.html), but in leopard you should be able to set your default printer to Adobe PDF (if you have acrobat) then use a finalescript batch print to just print an entire file or all open documents. On 13 August 2011 01:23, Ryan ry.squa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, Is it possible to batch print to PDF using FinaleScript? Or AppleScript? Finale 2010, Mac OS X 10.5.8 If it is possible, can someone please share a sample script? Thanks, Ryan ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] ILLUSTRATOR and FINALE fonts
Hi Henry Try this ... PREFERENCES TYPE AUTO TRACING TYPE OBJECT SELECTION BY PATH ONLY make sure this is checked. If you don't, then you are prone to selecting things using the whole bounding box rather than just the path, which means that something with a large bounding box that is front of the element you are trying to select, may be selected instead. Furthermore, finale EPS files have all their objects grouped, so you will have to select an item and then OBJECT UNGROUP so that you can work with each element. -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art On 3/11/07, Henry E. Howey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I may need to export EPS or postscript into ILLUSTRATOR to achieve certain editorial conventions. I cannot select stems in beamed eighth notes as an Item to adjust in ILLUSTRATOR. I can select noteheads, the beams themselves, and flags on various note values. I hope someone else has tried and succeeded;-) Henry Howey Professor of Music Sam Houston State University Box 2208 Huntsville, TX 77341 (936) 294-1364 http://www.shsu.edu/music/faculty/howey.php Owner of FINALE Discussion List ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Trying to contact Jari
Hi I've been trying to contact Jari by email but have not been able to get any kind of response in more than 3 months. The FinaleTips.Nu website has been hosted free of charge on my server for the last couple of years without any problem, but the forum has not been updated in a while and is now attracting spam of a rather unsavory sort, along with multiple automated signups. As a result, and in view of the fact that I have not been able to contact jari, I have had to close the forum to new signups, which is not something that give me particular joy, but I hope the Finale community can see why this has to be done. If anyone knows what has become of Jari, or how I may contact him (as email does not seem to be getting through) I would be grateful if you would contact me off list. Regards Simon Troup Digital Music Art ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT monitor rotation
On 9/14/06, Chuck Israels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm working on a large score and it is time to get a card that will allow rotation of my 24 monitor into portrait mode. Hi Chuck I recently bought two 20 inch TFT rotatable monitors. They were expensive enough so I bought a second hand Radeon 9800 Pro Mac Special Edition G5 Card on eBay! It was about £80 which is what - $140? It works brilliantly. The control panels are found in System Prefs Preference Panes ATI and you just click whether you want 90 degrees CW, 90 degrees CCW or 180 degrees for each monitor. It also works with either VGA or DVI. Actually it has an ADC and a DVI connector but it comes with a DVI to VGA connector, and Br Bott sell an ADC to VGA connector if you need VGA. Anyway, this probably isn't the cheapest option even secondhand, but just to say that ATI versavision (rotation software) is brilliant and rotation in general is a real eye opener. I'm generally using one monitor in front of me in landscape and one to the left in portrait. This means I can have a score open in two views - the detail in landscape in front of me where I do actual work and zoom about - and a complete page overview in portrait mode to the left which updates live with the work I'm doing in the other monitor. Can't say anything about longevity, but for quality I can vouch for the LG2000C, rotatable, 1600x1200, DVI VGA, 3 year on site swap out warranty. I paid about £350 each, you can get far cheaper if you don't need the HiRes. Anyone thinking of going for rotation would do well to put them on a shortlist. -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art Chat with other Finale users at finaleirc.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fenton...the throwback
Perhaps I'm a throwback to an older era when people spoke more plainly and forcefully, and did not hedge their opinions in an attempt to disguise significant disagreement and, I guess, avoid conflict. David David, you're completely deluded. While their is merit in many of your posts, the tone of many is totally inexcusable. You sometimes defend your right to be so rude by saying that people can filter you - personally I think you should start filtering yourself by moderating your behaviour to something approaching common decency. -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art Real-time Finale discussion - http://www.finaleirc.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Traffic
In observance of the joke thread, this reminds me of a somewhat off-color joke that was told to me several years ago when I was (briefly) dating a horn player. She was a great kisser ... if only she didn't keep trying to put her fist up my ass. Took me a while to realise this was a joke, I put it down to TMI for a while. I think it's because I'm not used to seeing that sort of thing posted in here. -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art Real-time Finale discussion - http://www.finaleirc.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fin2007 to be Universal Binary
Just what was needed! I noticed the subject of the last email from ADC (Apple Developer Connection) was It's Time to Ship Your Universal Binary. Well this is certainly the next best thing. What pleases me about this is the shift away from an over cautious neither confirm nor deny stance (which never did anyone any good) in favour of one that provides people with real optimism. I say Hurrah!. At least, according to this MacWorld article: http://www.macworld.com/news/2006/01/19/finale/index.php MakeMusic on Thursday announced support for Apple's recently released Intel-based Macintosh computers. The company said that the next version of Finale, its music notation software, will be made as a Universal Binary, running natively on both PowerPC and Intel- based Macs. While the company did not give a firm date for the release of the update, they did say that Finale is typically updated on an annual basis. The most recent version of Finale was released on July 25, 2005. -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art Real-time Finale discussion - http://www.finaleirc.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] WinFin2006 PDF
Kurt Gnos écrit: no problems with PDFs here (WinFin2006c). Do you mean when you display a whole page? This will depend on your screen resolution (1600x1200 here). My PDFs or ok to look, if I enlarge them the staff lines are fine, and printing them is no problem and looking fine. I guess if you have a smaller display resolution the lines might be uglier, but this is a mathematical problem - the lower the resolution the uglier the lines, I think. I don't see how Adobe could get that better, I should think it either gets a 0 or an 1 when interpreting the image information, and even if PDFs got some special screen preview as EPS, there is no garantee to get them right on the screen. Compare a PDF of the same Finale file produced on a Mac and on a PC, and you'll immediately see what we mean by ugly output on screen. The fact remains that Mac-generated PDFs look much better. This shouldn't be a problem even at low resolution. There's no reason why all staff lines shouldn't be identical on the screen. Dennis Last time we looked at this issue we discovered that Finale Windows generated PDF files had staff lines that were composed of very thin lines, that is to say something like 10 very skinny lines per staff line. That was the difference between the Mac and Windows PDF files, and the display problem is likely the result of all the very closely knit clustering. It would be interesting to get an official response as to why this is the case. -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TAN: Intel Macs out
I believe the extended desktop feature was already possible with iMacs, but required a third-party hack. The same is definitely true for my iBook (I have tried it, though I haven't used it extensively. Hi Johannes can you tell me anything more about this, was it an application that would provide this? -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art Real-time Finale discussion - http://www.finaleirc.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Edit Lyrics
But I think that such things are the main basis in the problems any of us have (and the concurrent complaints) with any/all user-interfaces. We think they're great and intuitive when their logic follows our own, and we think they're stupid/poorly-developed/counter-intuitive when their logic runs counter to our own. There isn't any universally-agreeable, really intuitive way of doing things. At least as far as I understand things. The moment you make something intuitive for person A, you've likely made it counter-intuitive for person B. I've pointed out what I think the mental analogy should be, as follows: 1st line of lyrics 2nd line of lyrics 3rd line of lyrics which is 1 2 3 and it seems there are some people who see this as the intuitive ordering: 3 2 1 It seems to me this must be like the left/right brained thing. Those of us seeing visual lists (1. 2. 3.) and those thinking of numbering logic (2 is 'higher' than one). For instance, I have no problem imagining 2 as a higher number than 1, so it's easy for me to click the up-arrow to raise the number from 1 to 2, and the down-arrow to lower it from 1 to 0. I don't have a problem with it, I just always click the wrong arrow once at the beginning of each edit (not using it everyday). I was just wondering if it's one of those things that no-one ever complained about because it's never the most pressing thing (always something bigger broken!). -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TAN: Intel Macs out
Great plan, but you have to wonder if MakeMusic has an Intel mac development system yet. Hey Eric, more encouraging news, Carla just posted on the MM forum the following As Bill Wolff, MakeMusic CEO, announced on the Forums last June, we are actively working on developing Finale for the Mac Intel. While initial testing of Finale seems positive on a Developer Transition Kit from Apple, I am reluctant to base any official statements upon it. Once we get our hands on a real Mac Intel machine (on order, already shipped), we will have more definite information Hopefully the previous negativity that we were all feeling is lifting with the news that MM bought one of the first Mac Intel developer machines immediately as they came out, and have now splashed out on the first run of production machines. If that isn't a flag waving with the words we're working on it then I don't know what is. -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Guitar notation
Simon, thanks, I guess I read the chapter and try some more... But it would be nice just to press an x and get an x. The default behaviour of Finale placing the X notehead for you when you drag from staff to TAB very nearly works, but the notehead is about 3 or 4 EVPU our of alignment vertically which is annoying, it's a taste thing but prehaps it'll work for you. -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TAN: Intel Macs out
Hi Eric Great plan, but you have to wonder if MakeMusic has an Intel mac development system yet. They do, Allen Fisher told us a few weeks ago. Quote: OK, OK. You got me ;-) We've had one of the prototypes in house since they were availble. This is far from an official statement, but I can tell you this. We've been researching it and exploring it, and the initial experiments are looking promising. You can expect a more official statement from Bill in the future. -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art Real-time Finale discussion - http://www.finaleirc.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Edit Lyrics
But it seems to me that it is a reasonable design choice in editing text blocks, to expect that if one wants to edit a higher numbered block, to access it by way of the up arrow, and to access a lower numbered block by using the down arrow, and it appears that he designers of the interface used the same basic design in the edit lyrics and the edit text block dialogs. If you're inputting lyrics (Type Into Score) and want to get from 1 to 2 you press the down arrow, so that to me means that it is internally inconsistent. The logic seems pretty simple to me, make any numbered list and see which way you wrote it ... top to bottom most likely. That's why the lists of instruments in the instrument list run from top to bottom, and why text expression numbers start with 1 at the top. Number 1 is first, and that should be at the top - it is back to front. I understand your idea of higher numbered blocks, but I'm struggling to think of any real world analogies where it's actually used, and it's use in Finale is very much the exception to the rule. -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Guitar notation
Is there a better way to enter the music than entering it into a normal staff system and copy/pasting it into a TAB staff? Not really. I found a bend sign, how about hammer on / pull off? Or tapping? There are lots of different styles for guitar notation, it really depends on what you want. Most publishers use slurs for hammer on pull off. With regard to tapping you'd have to tell us what notation system it is you're trying to use or copy. How do I enter x-notes for muted strings? I like my X noteheads to be _exactly_ the same in the staff and the tab, so I make them as the same character font and size and make them as six different shape expressions (single and then banks of 2 to 6, I don't want to place 6 individual ones to make a muted chord!). These can b placed quickly with metatools set to snap into the correct position horizontally, leaving you to just set the vertical position. That being said no doubt there are a dozen ways of doing it. You'll notice that you can delete the default X's that are created in the tab caused by dragging the staff notes containing x note heads down to the tab by using the note mover tool - Finale creates these weird default ones but I've never liked them. This is something Finale could seriously improve on. I wanted to convert a guitar tune from guitar pro to Finale, but i had to give up... Sorry never heard of it. The whole of Chapter 36 covers guitar notation (I'm in Finale 2005 at the moment), but you're right, it's not much of a tutorial. I'm often around on FinaleIRC (see my signature) it may be easier to catch me on there in this case, otherwise I could see some of these queries going on for days and days, nothing wrong with here and it's good for the archive, but I don't have a great deal of time at the moment to go into step by step explanations (big project on!) but you're welcome to pick my brains on stuff like this if I'm about. -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art Real-time Finale discussion - http://www.finaleirc.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Smart Slurs - Engraver Slurs
-- Is there a consensus on this list that engraver slurs should be used? Absolutely not! Engraver slurs need just as much tweaking as regular slurs in order to look right, and IMO the old slurs are more easily adjusted. I instruct everyone who publishes with me to turn off engraver slurs before beginning their work. I don't use them, I like to use my own judegement about what looks good in a given situation, and most of the time the best starting point seems to be with engraver slurs off. -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art Real-time Finale discussion - http://www.finaleirc.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: RTFM, no. It shouldn't be necessary.
Apple's iLife stuff, and Pages are great examples of programs that require scant reading to get them to work. Comparing Pages with Finale isn't really a fair comparison, Pages just isn't that complex a program. It would be better to compare Finale with the Pro apps like Finale Cut Pro or Logic. -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art Real-time Finale discussion - http://www.finaleirc.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] mp3
If you're on Mac, then I have no clue and hopefully Mac users will jump in and help. I'm on Mac 2006b and I see both those buttons. -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art Real-time Finale discussion - http://www.finaleirc.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Sibelius 4 and other oddities
To be honest, I think it is increasingly becoming its greatest weakness. Especially since it seems to be trying to be a toy as well as a tool. I wished it would concentrate on being a tool. I'm hoping that continued success of SmartMusic and also encouraging results with Finale such as this last quarter will mean extra development resources, and will be better in all respects. What is absolutely critical IMHO is that while it continues to expand, they get a far better grip on the GUI, layout of menus, more consistent use of keystrokes and continue to address the learning curve. Finale's greatest weaknesses IMHO are it's learning curve (being addressed), it's failure to address known issues and, partly as result of its own depth, a complex GUI and myriad of finicky (and much needed!) preferences that utterly bamboozle new users. -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art Real-time Finale discussion - http://www.finaleirc.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: RTFM
Anyway- that's my New Year babble over with! Have a good 2006 everyone! Cheers Keith in OZ I'm not going to quote the whole email, but thought I would add a quick Aye in agreement. I have to admit to sometimes looking really hard for a solution in the manual only to find, when a solution has ben pointed out here, that I'm looking for the wrong terms or expressions. -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art Real-time Finale discussion - http://www.finaleirc.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Best macro program?
Did you use QuicKeys before OSX? If so, are there any significant differences between what you used before and the version you have now, good or bad? It's not quite as fast (say 85%) as the OS9 version, and it's just as tetchy, but you're probably used to the weirdness already. A totally solid, predictable and advanced OSX macro utility is yet to be built I think, I do think it will be built by the Quickeys team though, and there isn't a cloud hanging over it's development as there possibly is with iKeys. I find some drop down menus impossible to access with Quickeys at the moment, hopefully this will be solved in an update at some point. There are issues I had when closing windows, where after a long time wondering why macros didn't work I found that it was because when closing a window it had actually captured the name of the file being operated on when I was recording the macro itself, and was therefore expecting me to be using that same file in subsequent playback - this was fixed easily once I realised the problem, by asking it to ignore the name or setting wild- cards, that's probably a testament to the power of the program, but also points to a certain level of complexity that wasn't always the case in the OS9 version. There are a number of OSX developers having a few problems with scripting and working with the OSX Finder (the developers of Pathfinder and Finder Window Manager to name a couple) so I don't think all the weirdness is down to Quickeys, they're probably having to use kludgy workarounds for some of the stuff they do. However, as a former Quickeys OS9 owner I've been very happy with the OSX version since Quickeys X2, and it's now up to X3. X1 was shaky, it was the CE team simply trying to release something that worked and keep themselves in business IMHO, but that's all in the past, X2 and X3 I've found invaluable, like many, I get a massive productivity boost from the simple shortcuts, and in particular from lengthy multi-step macros that have earned me many a tea-break while Quickeys does the donkey work. -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art Real-time Finale discussion - http://www.finaleirc.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Best macro program?
One more question: is there any way to import certain of my old macros into this new version of QuicKeys (X3)? I doubt it, but You could try sending one over and I'll see what happens - just don't send any erase entire hard drive macros :) -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art Real-time Finale discussion - http://www.finaleirc.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale EPS graphics in MS Word
Although it is an extra step, I found 100% results if I opened the EPS files in Illustrator before dragging into Word. I always open EPS files in Illustrator CS and re-save. We've found the files produced are much more compatible. One thing Illustrator does have that Finale doesn't is a really good scriptable export suite. I run my EPS files through Illustrator using an AppleScript adapted from one found in Adobe Illustrator Scripting by Ethan Wilde. You can do a similar thing in Windows using VBScript IIRC. -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art Real-time Finale discussion - http://www.finaleirc.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Quickeys Question
Seem to be having a nightmare with Quickeys today. All I'm trying to do is the following: File Page Format Format for HP Laserjet Paper size A4 What's strange is that Quickeys recognises and highlights the Settings menu in the Page Format dialogue box, but not the other two menus. None of my usual tricks seems to work here, does anyone else get the same thing? Does anyone have a solution? -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art Real-time Finale discussion - http://www.finaleirc.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] 2006b problem again
The development process at MM was obviously broken in some way for such a serious bug to make it into shipping code. It's one thing for an installer to have a problem (and that got through due to inadequate testing, too), it's entirely another for the data loss bug to have slipped through. About the installer problem. The symptom was loss of preferences if I remember. Now, most beta testers will test in a fresh install, not in their regular account, NOD's are full of disclaimers against data loss. Just goes to show the testers aren't all nuts if you ask me. -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] DS al Coda question
My question: Since many practices which were once common go away with time, can someone suggest a method of creating the blank space. I have enough room on the page to create a sliver of space and still not crowd the music, however, I really don't want to add another page for two measures. If you mean that you want the Coda on the same line as some other music and it is separated by a shim of blank space, insert an extra bar, and apply a staff style to it that has the staff setting set to 0 with full barline. That effectively makes a bar with no lines - which is blank space if you put nothing in it or hide things in it. -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art Real-time Finale discussion - http://www.finaleirc.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] DS al Coda question
If you mean that you want the Coda on the same line as some other music and it is separated by a shim of blank space, insert an extra bar, and apply a staff style to it that has the staff setting set to 0 with full barline. That effectively makes a bar with no lines - which is blank space if you put nothing in it or hide things in it. That is exactly what I meant. I just tried it and it worked perfectly. Thank you very much! You're very welcome. I use them all the time if the coda is just a couple of bars, to me they're still very much in fashion :) -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art Real-time Finale discussion - http://www.finaleirc.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Wouldn't it be nice?
Wouldn't it be nice, when you made an enharmonic change (using 9) in speedy entry, if Finale could remember that preference for at least the rest of the measure? - Bob Excellent idea from my perspective. Maybe an option. -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art Real-time Finale discussion - http://www.finaleirc.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] First Finale 2006b bug?
First test with Finale 2006b and an important bug! Really, it's the first thing I did when I opened 2006b. Just wanted to test the Time signature tool improvement and apply a time signature to a measure with an existing document (a copy of it of course). Nothing happens and I am at the end of the document. I try somewhere else: after clicking on a measure to change the time sign, the change is applied two measure later. Strange, isn't it? Hi Eric Can't reproduce that here at all. -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art Real-time Finale discussion - http://www.finaleirc.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] test
test Works Quiet isn't it! -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art Real-time Finale discussion - http://www.finaleirc.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT Postcode!
It's not a 'government service', but a public limited company whose majority owner is the British Government. It's called the Royal Mail and it's not considered a government service? You're right, I can probably rename my company Royal Digital Music Art :) -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art Real-time Finale discussion - http://www.finaleirc.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT Postcode!
Is the Royal Mail not a government service? That is, shouldn't it be free? It's not a 'government service', but a public limited company whose majority owner is the British Government. And in any case, there's plenty of government services, from passports to self-service photocopies in libraries, that aren't free. .. exactly, after all, we have to pay for the privelege of posty leaving our parcels in the wheelie bin when you're out, now why is it posty thinks that's a good hiding place? -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art Real-time Finale discussion - http://www.finaleirc.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT Postcode!
Anyone in UK please tell me the Postcode (Zip Code?) for Eastbourne, Sussex, UK. Thanks Keith in OZ According to multimap.com it's ... BN21 3xx don't use that however, as I added the xx bit, unless you can be more specific, you don't have a whole postcode. Most postcodes in the UK cover about a dozen houses only. If you have a specific address I think you can look up its postcode at http://www.royalmail.com/ Hope that's a starter at least! -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art Real-time Finale discussion - http://www.finaleirc.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Speedy entry on Mac Powerbook
Can anyone help with the following problem. I use Speedy Entry and wan to change the pitch of a note already inserted. I press the key on my midi keyboard locate the insertion cursor on the target note and press what?? On my PC I can press Enter if I do that on my Powerbook with finale 2005 the insertion frame will move to the staff below. Can anyone help me? I believe all the options are shown in ... Speedy Speedy Edit Commands ... and there's no keyboard shortcut other than to lower by a semitone. On occasion I've done a rapid series of either - or + (to lower or raise a semitone) followed each to by a 9 to change the enharmonic ... this has a vaguely similar effect and looks like this ... -9-9-9-9-9-9 or +9+9+9+9+9+9 ... totally mad. Also, you can just grab the note with a mouse-click-drag and constrain it's movement with shift. Both are a bit of a kludge, there ought to be a way to move a note up or down diatonically. Of course this is where someone tells me how to do it and I die of embarrassment. -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art Real-time Finale discussion - http://www.finaleirc.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Slightly OT: HP 5si MX printers
Matthew Hindson Fastmail Account écrit: My duplexer has run into problems - I can't duplex without paper jams. However that may be a function of the paper itself (HP paper manufactured in Brazil... I hope that it doesn't come from the Amazon). I also have frequent paper jams when I duplex A3 on a HP 8150. Does anyone have recommandations for non-jamming-A3 paper available in Europe? Dennis My s/h HP 5SI MX came with a duplexer and it works great, I've done loads of double sided copies with no problems. It is quite loud though, so, working from home, I try not to use it at night! -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Slightly OT: HP 5si MX printers
Simon Troup écrit: My s/h HP 5SI MX came with a duplexer and it works great, I've done loads of double sided copies with no problems. What kind of A3 paper do you use? Dennis I'm just using generic Logic 300 80gsm for proofing of 12 x 9 concert size at 100% by ourselves and clients etc, it doesn't ever have to be used on stands or anything. -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Slightly OT: HP 5si MX printers
Simon Troup écrit: My s/h HP 5SI MX came with a duplexer and it works great, I've done loads of double sided copies with no problems. What kind of A3 paper do you use? Dennis I'm just using generic Logic 300 80gsm for proofing of 12 x 9 concert size at 100% by ourselves and clients etc, it doesn't ever have to be used on stands or anything. Sorry Dennis, I speed read your question. Are you sure it's the paper? I've only ever used 80gsm, I tried to source some heavier A3 at a reasonable price a while back and it all seemed outrageously overpriced. What weight are you using there? Maybe I should buy a few sheets of heavy from a repro house to test before I go and buy loads of the stuff! -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art Real-time Finale discussion - http://www.finaleirc.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] disk formatting?
As to the point above, tho, I find it hard to believe. 1st-gen. iMacs were the first to have no floppy drive. If they can't burn data to a CD, then they can't copy to removable media at all! My First gen imac didn't burn, and it wasn't one of the first off the line either! -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] three annoying everyday Finale bugs
3.) Since ever. Why won't the spacing between systems change after page 1 even if I did not do anything? Why do I always have to do one of my dozen workarounds to get systems evenly spaced not on one page, but throughout the piece, normally so I won't need more pages than necessary? Why will there be a system on page 2 that has a much bigger space than all of the others? I get something similar to this and have fixed it by lowering the Space Pages More Than x% Full setting in Space Systems Evenly. I always want them done. For some reason I don't think that setting always gets it right?! -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art Real-time Finale discussion - http://www.finaleirc.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: OT: MacIntel iBooks in January?
OK, OK. You got me ;-) We've had one of the prototypes in house since they were availble. This is far from an official statement, but I can tell you this. We've been researching it and exploring it, and the initial experiments are looking promising. You can expect a more official statement from Bill in the future. --Allen Allen, thanks, that's really very much appreciated, and very comforting to hear. To be honest, I wasn't expecting you to answer, but it's great that you did! -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art Real-time Finale discussion - http://www.finaleirc.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: OT: MacIntel iBooks in January?
Yep. It's a great way to get a clean machine to test out a configuration problem... Allan! You can't just drop in and answer THAT bit of the thread?! :) How's MacIntelFin coming along? -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Repeat Font
I used to know how to enlarge and make bold the numbers in 1st and 2nd time bars. Hi Keith In 2005b it's ... Options Document Options Fonts Text Ending Repeat ... sorry don't have 2001 to hand. -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art Real-time Finale discussion - http://www.finaleirc.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale Mac forgetting MIDI ports?
On 26.11.2005 Matthew Hindson Fastmail Account wrote: Has anyone else had any trouble with Finale forgetting MIDI ports after the machine goes to sleep? And then it requiring a restart to get it happening again? I have this problem with my MOTU 828/ii. I also have to restart Finale to get them back, but I always assumed this was a problem with the MOTU. Johannes We have this problem with one of our machines, an iMac G5 using a MOTU Fastlane USB. -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art Real-time Finale discussion - http://www.finaleirc.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: OT: MacIntel iBooks in January?
If future Macs are indeed dual boot windows machines, then MM is definitely not cutting off a third of its installed base. You're dwelling way too much on this dual boot idea. The fact that you'll be able to boot into Windows natively on an x86 based Mac is an interesting but mainly irrelevant point to the average Mac user. Given the choice between using Finale Windows in a dual boot Mac/Win environment that would necessitate rebooting into Windows (and even having to have Windows on my machine), or switching to Sibelius Mac, well even I would go to Sibelius! I don't say something like that lightly. I believe that MM will develop for Mac+Intel, but on this occasion, playing their cards close to their chest is serious error. If they're not careful, someone will coin the term the MakeMusic effect, being the exact opposite of the Osbourne effect - users could drop the product as they see no future in it, when a speedy announcement clarifying the fact that they're busy squirrelling away on a port would in fact create a buzz of excitement ... -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art Real-time Finale discussion - http://www.finaleirc.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: Finale Digest, Vol 28, Issue 29
On 26.11.2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did notice that if I select any printer in the page setup, I can select other page sizes. If I select HP5simx, custom sizes are dimmed out. Johannes Well, it seems you printer driver doesn't support custom paper sizes. I just checked, and my HP 6MP does support them. It's nothing to do with the OS, though, it's your printer and its driver that have limitations. Do you have the newest driver? I'm not sure which OS you're on, but I have an HP 5si MX, and in MacOS 10.4.3 the printer specific print options need to be set, and this appears just after you have chosen to print with COMMAND + P. Here's a screenshot of the options that I see in the print dialogue ... http://www.digitalmusicart.com/temp_26-11-05.jpg ... layout, paper handling and paper feed are the main ones you need to look at, and can quite easily override settings that you may have made elsewhere. -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: MacIntel iBooks in January?
Hi Eric I can't find the link but I'm sure that I've seen that that has been officially ruled out. Eric Dussault A stupid question? will the classic environnement work with Rosetta on MacIntel machines? Le 05-11-26 à 04:03, Johannes Gebauer a écrit : I was not talking about the Windows emulation here, I was talking about Rosetta. We already know that Rosetta will not be fully compatible. Apple announced that Rosetta will emulate a G3. I have software, particularly Altvierb, which has been announced to not run on Rosetta. -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art Real-time Finale discussion - http://www.finaleirc.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: OT: MacIntel iBooks in January?
That might certainly make a dual-boot scenario more appealing to Mac users who may wish to see what the Windows world has to offer. I would have thought that most mac users have experience of using windows anyway (workplace, school etc). If Mac users wanted to use windows they would already have done it, after all, they have to pay a premium to use MacOS as it is - mac hardware is generally more expensive, it's a choice that isn't taken lightly, particularly in the UK where the price differential is much more marked. It's an interesting scenario you propose though, and made me wonder if MacOS could be issued as a 30 day trial that worked on any x86 machine, but if you wanted to use it beyond that you'd have to buy Mac hardware. -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: OT: MacIntel iBooks in January?
But what if you *don't* have to reboot? What if (by installing Virtual PC) you could double click an icon just as you do now, and it opened a Finale doc window just as it does now. No muss, no fuss, and no reboot. At what point does your refusal even to consider installing Win on your machine begins to look more like stubborn bigotry than anything pragmatic? Hi Robert that way though I'd have to buy cross platform upgrade to finale, windows and VPC. That's not cheap, and it isn't really no mess and no fuss. I'm not at all anti-windows, I've used it in the past. What I'm definitely against though is the hassle of running 2 OS or 2 OS and an emulator. -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: OT: MacIntel iBooks in January?
I can accept cost as an objection, but not disc space, and not the nebulous objection quoted above. Nebulous objection? -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: OT: MacIntel iBooks in January?
This strikes me as arbitrary. Virtual PC does not take up any significant processor cycles, unless you are running a Win program, so the only practical objection would be A) the cost or B) the disk space. Cross-grading Fin from Mac to Win is no more costly than any Fin upgrade. They come on the same disc. Virtual PC does have an associated cost (c. $200 last time I checked), most of which is the Win license. I can accept cost as an objection, but not disc space, and not the nebulous objection quoted above. I don't really think I need to explain why configuring an OS within an emulator in another OS is unattractive. I've used Virtual PC with Win 98 SE, Win XP and Win 2000 - it's buggy and has a tremendous performance hit, things don't work at anything like native windows speed. It also absolutely requires you to learn and manage another OS, another whole font library etc. etc. - when you are your own IT department there's a lot to be said for keeping it simple. Where does this idea comes from that VPC functions only as a window server? (and I use the term in a unix sense) - it doesn't, and it doesn't make an argument to pretend that one day it might, as I doubt it ever will. -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: OT: MacIntel iBooks in January?
Well, if you think about it, it can't really do that. What if an OS X app and a VPC app try to access the same hardware or memory at the same time? VPC would always have to be a slave of OS X. Now, it could be that Intel underneath OS X could provide enough performance improvement to make VPC much snappier, but I don't think there'd ever be any real possibility of VPC being able to go direct to the hardware, since VPC wouldn't know anything about what OS X is doing. Has anyone used virtual PC on windows to run a different version of windows? It's entirely possible. A friend of mine has done it using a very fast machine with a huge amount of RAM etc. and said the performance was Pants. This must be because even in a Win/Win situation (unintentional pun!) the virtual machine within Virtual PC is interfacing with a software emulation of a generic graphics card rather than with the actual graphics card installed in the machine, and I think the same is true of everything else, VPC probably even pretends to be a generic BIOS, it's one mammoth abstraction layer even running within the same architecture. Sorry Johannes if this is going round and round a bit, having used VPC, lots of versions of windows, running a red hat web server and having used dual boot OS9 and OSx into unix and linux, I'm fascinated, and also NEVER want to have to do it again - all that experimentation taught me a thing or two about the simple beauty of MacOS, maybe it's not the fastest or most tweakable system, but it sure is slick!). -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Making Fonts
I've been looking at Fontographer and FontLab recently, it seems MacroMedia sold Fontographer on to FontLab and they've released it for OSX. Does anyone have any practical experience of the two, and offer some advice on their relative merits? Is FontLab just for serious font geeks? Is it worth the extra cash? -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art Real-time Finale discussion - http://www.finaleirc.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: MacIntel iBooks in January?
It might, but then they also allow Mac Users to make a two step, painless move to pure Windows computers. Once the first step is taken (ie a dual boot Mac/Win machine), I foresee the market doing its thing quickly. MacUsers will end up using more Win Software (simply out of necessity at first), developers will stop developing Mac applications, users will be tempted by cheaper hardware (currently you can get more powerful notebooks for a fraction of the price of a Powerbook), and eventually leave the Mac platform. I actually see myself going that way, unless there are good enough reasons (ie software) to keep me on the Mac (and I prefer OS X by many miles over Win). So stay on Mac if you like it, everyone else will, I don't think this catastrophic vision of yours will ever happen. -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art Real-time Finale discussion - http://www.finaleirc.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
