Re: [Finale] List seems very quiet

2010-07-27 Thread dhbailey
Michael Withers wrote: Is the Finale list still working? I haven't received any postings in the last couple of days. I'll get things rolling: I finally tried 2011 to see if a procedure worked and I was surprised that when I selected the Staff tool double-clicking on the staff handle didn't

Re: [Finale] List seems very quiet

2010-07-27 Thread dhbailey
) 937-9760 -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of dhbailey Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 5:14 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] List seems very quiet Michael Withers wrote: Is the Finale list still working? I haven't

Re: [Finale] Finale Unicode support; UTM; ACME

2010-07-27 Thread dhbailey
Unless it's one of those we almost had it in time for the initial release but missed it by that much (insert Maxwell Smart hand gesture) and they'll bring it out in the amazing Finale2011a or b release, soon to be announced. :-) David H. Bailey Darcy James Argue wrote: Since Finale 2011

Re: [Finale] Finale 2011

2010-07-22 Thread dhbailey
David McKay wrote: I've only put my toe in the water, but I'm liking FinWin 2011. I used to upgrade every time, but our previous upgrade was FinWin 2004. The years flash by as I get closer and closer to 60... I like the way the program opens up 2 pages on my 19 inch monitor. I previously only

Re: [Finale] OT: Copyright and downloadable music

2010-07-11 Thread dhbailey
David W. Fenton wrote: On 10 Jul 2010 at 5:59, dhbailey wrote: my post was quoted by Blake Richardson, who then went on the tirade against stupid things done in the name of copyright protection. No, those were done in the name of enforcing performance rights, which is distinctly different

Re: [Finale] OT: Copyright and downloadable music

2010-07-11 Thread dhbailey
Blake Richardson wrote: [snip] All sorts of scary stuff is happening in Europe under the umbrella of artists' rights. There's a proposal (don't know whether it's made it into law yet) to give sculptors and painters the right of first refusal on sales of their work. Under such a system, if

Re: [Finale] OT: Copyright and downloadable music

2010-07-11 Thread dhbailey
John Howell wrote: At 1:41 PM -0400 7/11/10, Blake Richardson wrote: From: John Howell john.how...@vt.edu If there IS a single problem, it's obviously the one we've all been aware of all the time: the progress of technology has made new crimes not only possible but really, really EASY!

Re: [Finale] OT: Copyright and downloadable music

2010-07-11 Thread dhbailey
Darcy James Argue wrote: As far as the Nicole Simpson murder, you are correct, but of course O.J. Simpson was convicted of armed robbery, kidnapping, and other felonies on Oct. 3, 2008, and is currently serving a minimum 9-year sentence. You're correct -- I should have been more specific that

Re: [Finale] OT: Copyright and downloadable music

2010-07-10 Thread dhbailey
John Howell wrote: From: dhbailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com Let's be fair about things here. Yes, there's a problem with people who believe that just because the internet makes it easy, they're entitled to whatever they want without paying. But you also have to take into account

Re: [Finale] OT: Copyright and downloadable music

2010-07-10 Thread dhbailey
dhbailey wrote: John Howell wrote: From: dhbailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com Let's be fair about things here. Yes, there's a problem with people who believe that just because the internet makes it easy, they're entitled to whatever they want without paying. But you also have to take

Re: [Finale] OT: Copyright and downloadable music

2010-07-10 Thread dhbailey
Graeme Gerrard wrote: I am from an older generation, but kids these days have the attitude that the money goes to multinational companies, with only a trickle to the composers and performers, their heroes. My generation bought into the arrangement and that's who passed the laws (same with

Re: [Finale] OT: Copyright and downloadable music

2010-07-10 Thread dhbailey
Cecil Rigby wrote: I'm not trying to pick a fight here, just understand WHY, exactly, is it offensive in any degree that anyone can (having enough money and a willing seller) become a holder of copyrights? The individual artist's rights are NOT abridged just because someone may buy

Re: [Finale] FinMac 2011 Percussion entry/playback GPO4

2010-07-10 Thread dhbailey
Thank you very much for sharing this with us -- it seems like it will make things easier for us who might be trying GPO4. David H. Bailey David Froom wrote: Hi, I got some excellent advice from Make Music Tech Support (Travis S.), as I've been struggling to get this to work. What I want

Re: [Finale] OT: Copyright and downloadable music

2010-07-10 Thread dhbailey
Nigel Hanley wrote: Cecil, in many ways I agree with you. Full stop. I 'm equally not trying to pick a fight, but am merely attempting to understand why the original owners of such monumental works of popular music such as the Beatles' library are forced to undergo legal proceedings to retain

Re: [Finale] OT: Copyright and downloadable music

2010-07-10 Thread dhbailey
Noel Stoutenburg wrote: Nigel Hanley wrote: Cecil, in many ways I agree with you. Full stop. I 'm equally not trying to pick a fight, but am merely attempting to understand why the original owners of such monumental works of popular music such as the Beatles' library are forced to undergo

Re: [Finale] Re: OT: Copyright and downloadable music

2010-07-10 Thread dhbailey
Blake Richardson wrote: Interesting article in the Times just this week that highlights how creativity and innovation in the food / high cuisine industry is managing to thrive despite no copyright protections. Thought it might be of interest given the discussion going on here.

Re: [Finale] OT: Copyright and downloadable music

2010-07-10 Thread dhbailey
John Howell wrote: [snip] The former is exactly true, as I've pointed out before. But I'm not sure the latter really is. If you ever walked through a record company's distribution warehouse (and I have), you realize that of all the records that company fronted for and released, only a few

Re: [Finale] OT: Copyright and downloadable music

2010-07-09 Thread dhbailey
I had gotten the link to that blog from a different list (orchestralist maybe?) and as always am intrigued by the way that many people seem to think that additional exposure to a potential wider buying audience is what we musicians want, whether we be composers or performers. I can't remember

Re: [Finale] Doubling part label

2010-07-08 Thread dhbailey
Mariposa Symphony Orchestra wrote: Wow! I thought I was the only one who knew that movie! And just FWIW: it wasn't a balloon. It was anothersimilar.latex item. Does anybody remember the subtitle to that movie? This is a quiz -- I do remember what it is. -- David H. Bailey

Re: [Finale] OT: Tuning without an Oboe in the group

2010-07-08 Thread dhbailey
John Howell wrote: At 4:19 PM -0400 7/7/10, dhbailey wrote: And that also assumes that the string player wouldn't use an electronic tuner to get the A and then tune by ear from there. I never suggested that they use the tuner for all their strings, just that if everybody were using

Re: [Finale] Doubling part label

2010-07-08 Thread dhbailey
watching it way back when it was actually in a theater in Cambridge, MA. David H. Bailey Bob Morabito wrote: What is--The Decline of the West in C# Major ? Bob Morabito On Jul 8, 2010, at 7:18 AM, dhbailey wrote: Mariposa Symphony Orchestra wrote: Wow! I thought I was the only one who

Re: [Finale] Doubling part label

2010-07-08 Thread dhbailey
-US:officialsa=Xei=kek1TK6mE8SqlAe2oNXSBwved=0CBIQvwUoAQq=the+Decline+of+the+West+in+C%23+Major+orchestra+Rehearsalspell=1 --OR-- http://tinyurl.com/2gy4f2k Thanks Bob On Jul 8, 2010, at 10:24 AM, dhbailey wrote: I think not -- could be my bad memory, but I recall it as being: The decline and fall

Re: [Finale] OT: Tuning without an Oboe in the group

2010-07-07 Thread dhbailey
Ryan wrote: If there's no oboe in the orchestra (pit orchestra), what's the next best choice to tune to? Muted trumpet? Ha. In all seriousness; Clarinet? Flute? According to the League of American Orchestras, The penetrating tone of the oboe is easy for all players to hear, and its ability to

Re: [Finale] OT: Tuning without an Oboe in the group

2010-07-07 Thread dhbailey
David W. Fenton wrote: On 7 Jul 2010 at 15:07, John Howell wrote: And for string players, tuning to a meter means tuning tempered 5ths, not pure 5ths. Er, doesn't that depend on what temperament you have your electronic tuner set to? And that also assumes that the string player wouldn't

Re: [Finale] JazzSymbol commercial music chord symbol font released

2010-06-26 Thread dhbailey
I have a question regarding the use of these fonts in Finale or in Sibelius - I didn't think either program was unicode compliant yet. Am I mistaken about this? If a program isn't unicode compliant how does one access any of the characters above character number 256? The demo for

Re: [Finale] Use of JazzSymbol in Finale

2010-06-26 Thread dhbailey
:45 -0400 From: dhbailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com Subject: Re: [Finale] JazzSymbol commercial music chord symbol font released To: finale@shsu.edu Cc: sibelius-l...@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: 4c25d92d.6020...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Re: [Finale] Initial view

2010-06-22 Thread dhbailey
dc wrote: I can't remember where one sets the initial view to Page view when opening a file. I can't find it in Program options (Fin2008). Can anyone remind me? On the New page is a place to set the default view for any new file to Page, Studio or Scroll view. Can't make this stuff up --

Re: [Finale] Initial view

2010-06-22 Thread dhbailey
mmathew1...@comcast.net wrote: Isn't the Preferences, program options, new document windows where you set the opening page view option: scroll, page or studio view? I usually miss something, so, please be kind when you correct me! [snip] Yes, that's right. But it's not called New

Re: [Finale] play 2nd time only

2010-06-20 Thread dhbailey
trumpe...@verizon.net wrote: Hello all---I cannot get a passage to play 2nd time only on a section that has a 1st and 2nd ending. I have Finale 2007 and have used the expression tool to create the words 2nd time only and set the key velocity on 0 and play only on 1st time then set key velocity

Re: [Finale] Snare Drum playback

2010-06-19 Thread dhbailey
Lee Dengler wrote: Hi All, I seldom write for percussion and I an not figure out how to create a snare drum playback. I am on Finale 2010. Thanks to anyone who can help me with this. You have to define the staff to be a percussion staff (use the Staff tool, then under Notation Style

Re: [Finale] upgrade? and question

2010-06-18 Thread dhbailey
Katherine Hoover wrote: Dear finalelist, I'm working on a fairly new mac with finale 2004. 1. Is it time to upgrade to 2011? 2. I have a score with 4 staves. Is it possible (for formatting) to move a single staff up or down within a single system ? 1. Only you can answer if

Re: [Finale] OT: Creating a Ringtone

2010-06-17 Thread dhbailey
David W. Fenton wrote: On 16 Jun 2010 at 11:18, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: Trim it to about 20 seconds. Save it as mp3 with file extension mp3 (or mid for older phones). Works great! Seems to me that the older phones that used mid files were not playing MP3s, but had a software synch, and

Re: [Finale] Band and Chorus

2010-06-09 Thread dhbailey
Ryan wrote: Where should the chorus be placed in a score for concert band? Below the brass and above the percussion? There is no standard for placement of chorus in band scores. As a conductor, I've seen the chorus placed at the top of the score, the bottom of the score, and in the middle,

Re: [Finale] Rendering Garritan instruments to separate WAV files

2010-06-06 Thread dhbailey
Aaron Sherber wrote: On 6/6/2010 9:00 AM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: The upshot is that for Finale to be taken serious as a rendering tool, it needs to either produce independent WAV files per track or else become an order of magnitude easier to achieve a reasonable mix. Personally, I don't think

Re: [Finale] Finale 2011 Review

2010-06-05 Thread dhbailey
Mark D Lew wrote: I suggest you contact MakeMusic (even if you don't upgrade to Fin2011) and ask that they should keep the old way as well. Or display the distance as text as you suggested. Yeah, I'll add it to my list. For so many years I was so far behind on upgrading it seemed almost

Re: [Finale] Beams

2010-06-02 Thread dhbailey
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: [snip] Why would they have to do that? Counting is counting, isn't it? Doesn't make sense to me. True -- but suggesting that counting is counting assumes that all musicians are able to think of the counting while playing, which isn't true in my experience. I

Re: [Finale] Beams

2010-06-02 Thread dhbailey
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: On Tue, June 1, 2010 10:48 am, dhbailey wrote: But to get to my statement which you quoted, I'm not sure why it should bother you. It seems like a tautology that if the performers don't understand the notation they won't perform the music correctly. I'm talking

Re: [Finale] Re: Gardner Read book

2010-06-02 Thread dhbailey
n...@npcimaging.com wrote: David Bailey wrote: Also out of print is Gardner Read's work, Sourcebook of Proposed Music Notation Reforms from 1985. Â I beg to differ... I have two copies in stock ri ght now! :) Along with many other Gardner Read titles. Nick I see that the edition you have

Re: [Finale] Beams

2010-06-01 Thread dhbailey
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: On Mon, May 31, 2010 3:25 pm, Graeme Gerrard wrote: If a program such as Finale can only do a subset of things or things only in a defined way, that helps to determine what becomes canonic. Innovations that composers might have initiated are restrained by an

Re: [Finale] Beams

2010-06-01 Thread dhbailey
Graeme Gerrard wrote: This raises an important issue in the development of notation. If a program such as Finale can only do a subset of things or things only in a defined way, that helps to determine what becomes canonic. Innovations that composers might have initiated are restrained by an

Re: [Finale] Beams

2010-06-01 Thread dhbailey
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: On Tue, June 1, 2010 6:45 am, dhbailey wrote: It's all well and good for a composer to feel that some new notational device is necessary for correct communication of what he/she wants the music to sound like, but if nobody among the performers understands

Re: [Finale] Finale 2011 preordering?

2010-05-27 Thread dhbailey
Ray Horton wrote: On my side - I keep one eye open for good reasons to start the Sib learning curve. So far, I haven't seen them. Could still happen, but not so far. I hadn't seen a reason to start the sib learning curve when I initially purchased the program and installed it and found

Re: [Finale] Da capo roadmap

2010-05-27 Thread dhbailey
Patrick Sheehan wrote: Da Capos and D.S.'s should be outlawed. Why not just write it out again? Less confusion, I say. You don't play outdoor concerts where breezes make limiting the number of pages open for any one piece a good thing, do you? Da Capo and D.S. should provide no more

Re: [Finale] Da capo roadmap

2010-05-27 Thread dhbailey
dershem wrote: [snip] There are always arguments on either side. Use what works best and causes the fewest potential problems. [snip] Well, if you're going to think logically . . . ;-) -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___

Re: [Finale] Finale 2011 preordering?

2010-05-26 Thread dhbailey
Eric Dannewitz wrote: Anyone notice on the new features page they have fonts listed twice? On the left they say new fonts then on the right they have alphanotes which also happens to be mentioned on the new fonts page.. Seems like they needed some padding there or something and had to

Re: [Finale] Finale 2011 preordering?

2010-05-26 Thread dhbailey
Ray Horton wrote: John Howell wrote: Hardly a spy! I've monitored the FinaleList much longer than I've been on the SibList, since our Department adopted Finale before being forced to drop it when our students were ready to show up with new OSX computers. And I find the different

Re: [Finale] Finale 2011 preordering?

2010-05-25 Thread dhbailey
Lora Crighton wrote: --- On Tue, 5/25/10, Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.ca wrote: Click on the video to see how lyric entry and spacing is improved. Does that seem like enough to you guys who do choral music? After many years of not bothering with the upgrades - I have 2006 -

Re: [Finale] Finale 2011 preordering?

2010-05-25 Thread dhbailey
David W. Fenton wrote: On 25 May 2010 at 11:27, Ryan wrote: I would be much more inclined to purchase 2011 if they offered a tiered pricing structure. The if you're upgrading from 2010, you pay a lower price than someone upgrading from 2009, etc etc. I must be missing something. If you're

Re: [Finale] Finale 2011 preordering?

2010-05-25 Thread dhbailey
Phillips, Justin wrote: Hi Ryan, We do run discount pricing promotions for 2009 and 2010 users upgrading to Finale 2011. If you did not receive an email this morning with this information, definitely contact customer support at the link below and we can get you signed up to receive special

Re: [Finale] print forces update layout??

2010-05-21 Thread dhbailey
Darcy James Argue wrote: That's a bad kludge. Find another, better way to get the result you want. In recent versions, printing forces an update layout. This is a good and sensible thing. I'm sorry but I have to disagree that printing forcing an update layout with no user control is not a

Re: [Finale] print forces update layout??

2010-05-21 Thread dhbailey
Mark D Lew wrote: On May 20, 2010, at 11:09 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: That's a bad kludge. Find another, better way to get the result you want. In recent versions, printing forces an update layout. This is a good and sensible thing. Ugh. OK, well at least that answers my question.

Re: [Finale] print forces update layout??

2010-05-21 Thread dhbailey
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: On Fri, May 21, 2010 2:09 am, Darcy James Argue wrote: That's a bad kludge. Find another, better way to get the result you want. In recent versions, printing forces an update layout. This is a good and sensible thing. Ouch! That explains why my DO NOT UPDATE LAYOUT

Re: [Finale] print forces update layout??

2010-05-21 Thread dhbailey
dhbailey wrote: Darcy James Argue wrote: That's a bad kludge. Find another, better way to get the result you want. In recent versions, printing forces an update layout. This is a good and sensible thing. I'm sorry but I have to disagree that printing forcing an update layout

Re: [Finale] spacing with layers again

2010-05-19 Thread dhbailey
Mark D Lew wrote: That looks like standard Finale behavior to me. I would expect to have to add space in a situation like that. Finale's awareness of collisions between layers is incomplete. And inexplicable after all these years, all these versions and all these development dollars.

Re: [Finale] part names

2010-05-15 Thread dhbailey
trumpe...@verizon.net wrote: I'm using Finale 2007 and have already written a big band score but when I look at the parts they have no names in the upper left hand corner. This is usually established when using Document Wizard but everything is done and I see no way of even putting the names

Re: [Finale] Repeats on D.C. al Coda

2010-05-11 Thread dhbailey
Adam Taylor wrote: After fiddling with this for nearly half an hour and inventing some rather colourful swear words directed at Finale, I've decided to tap the collected wisdom of the list. I am nearly finished my second Sonatine for marimba. In the final movement, I have a D.C. al Coda

Re: [Finale] spacing with dotted notes

2010-05-10 Thread dhbailey
Christopher Smith wrote: That would be The Art of Music Engraving Processing or I think the complete title might be Teach Yourself the Art of Music Engraving Processing by Ted Ross, the 3rd edition I have is copyright 1987. It is widely considered to be one of the leading references for

Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -

2010-05-08 Thread dhbailey
Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: Yes, that is scary all right. Last year I lost a whole score. I only had the original and the backup. Both got corrupted. Thanks for replying. I'm saving as with names like myFile1, myFile2, etc., as David Fenton suggested. Harold Additionally, you might consider

Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -

2010-05-07 Thread dhbailey
Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: Yes, I do have a copy saved as. I said that on my post. It gives the same error. All three files give the same error: the main file, the .asv copy and the saved as copy. It seems as if although the file was still open, it was already corrupted when both copies were

Re: [Finale] Why doesn't Finale play the instrument I want?

2010-05-03 Thread dhbailey
Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: In a score for flute, clarinet, guitar, piano and double bass, I set midi instrument flute (GM 74) to play the flute staff and midi instrument clarinet (GM 72)to play the clarinet. However I hear only trumpets on both staffs. Guitar sounds right. It is ironic that

Re: [Finale] OT - a matter of notation

2010-05-03 Thread dhbailey
Graeme Gerrard wrote: [snip] Some people seem to like the repeats re - presented in the letter notation: AA BB BB CC AA BB BB CC DD AA BB BB CC The redundancy offends me a bit. What do people think? The redundancy is good or confusing? The answer is a resounding it depends. For people who

Re: [Finale] Tuplets Default

2010-04-30 Thread dhbailey
Darcy James Argue wrote: I have given up on notating anything in compound meter. It is much too difficult for players to sight-read for anything of even moderate rhythmic complexity in such meters. Notating 6/8 figures in 2/4 (w/triplets), or 12/8 figures 4/4 (w/triplets), has the *huge*

Re: [Finale] key signature fix

2010-04-20 Thread dhbailey
Ryan wrote: I've forgotten the cure for this: Going from Eb Major to G Minor key signatures. Finale displays three naturals to cancel the original key then two flats for the new key. I just want the new key signature with one natural to cancel Ab. I know it has to do with going from the major

Re: [Finale] Courtesy Key signature

2010-04-14 Thread dhbailey
Pierre Bailleul wrote: Do you know the way to add naturals before the courtesy key signature at end of staff system ? (Fin 2010b Win) Thanks. Pierre ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale In the

Re: [Finale] O.T. Bar numbers

2010-04-14 Thread dhbailey
Aaron Rabushka wrote: Not meaning to sounds too nit-picky, but if it's full, is it a pickup measure? The only way to really know for sure is to settle the argument over how many angels can dance on a pin and then survey them all and if a majority say one way or the other, then the matter

Re: [Finale] TAN: minor, now major (well, maybe sergeant- major) rant

2010-04-02 Thread dhbailey
J D Thomas wrote: As someone said yesterday, there's no way Sibelius will ever open Finale files. But lately I've done several xml transfers from FinMac 2K7 to Sibelius 6. And it's not as bad as one might think. Granted, there is work to be done, and it will take some time. But I was

Re: [Finale] TAN: minor rant

2010-04-01 Thread dhbailey
Mark D Lew wrote: So I ordered my upgrade tonight. Afterward the webpage asked me to participate in a survey, so I said OK. On the first page, it asks: Which Finale 2010 feature was the biggest reason for your upgrade? - Export lyrics - Measure Numbers - Percussion Notation - Music Education

Re: [Finale] TAN: minor, now major (well, maybe sergeant- major) rant

2010-04-01 Thread dhbailey
Ray Horton wrote: Hey, guys, wait at least a week or two before you scare him off! Except that Justin said in his original reply to my message that MakeMusic *does* monitor these lists, implying that they've been doing it for a while. Which means he's not really new to this list, he just

Re: [Finale] TAN: minor, now major (well, maybe sergeant- major) rant

2010-04-01 Thread dhbailey
that works right..finally. I for one would jump ship to Sibelius if Sibelius had a way to just OPEN Finale documents into Sibelius. Converting them into Sibelius is just not going to be worth it to me, and take forever to do. On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:55 AM, dhbailey dhbai

Re: [Finale] Noteflight

2010-03-31 Thread dhbailey
John Howell wrote: At 3:59 PM -0400 3/30/10, dhbailey wrote: Any program which doesn't reside on my computer and the data files of which I store in my own location separate from the vissicitudes of web businesses failing is not anything I'm interested in. For music files I certainly agree

Re: [Finale] Noteflight

2010-03-31 Thread dhbailey
Christopher Smith wrote: On Tue Mar 30, at TuesdayMar 30 9:30 PM, John Howell wrote: And just this afternoon I learned from the prof. who's been teaching Apprec for many years that he's using a totally on-line course. It's from a company that handles everything on line, there's no textbook,

Re: [Finale] Noteflight

2010-03-31 Thread dhbailey
David W. Fenton wrote: On 30 Mar 2010 at 15:59, dhbailey wrote: I won't use the internet for storing my backups -- nothing's truly and verifiably secure on the internet and nothing's to prevent some such company from going out of business just at the time when I need to restore those files

Re: [Finale] Dissertation Work Guidelines/Advice?

2010-03-31 Thread dhbailey
Christopher Smith wrote: On Tue Mar 30, at TuesdayMar 30 9:49 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Last I checked, UMI PDFs of dissertations were graphics of scans of the printed page, not produced from the text of the document. Even if they *were* produced from the printed document, specifying dpi of

Re: [Finale] Noteflight

2010-03-31 Thread dhbailey
Chris Bell wrote: http://www.noteflight.com/ What do we think of this? I think it's great. I've used it a lot with my 12-15 year-old students, especially those at schools that do not have any budget for Finale or Sibelius. It's free, online (which for some kids, makes it 'cooler'' to use).

Re: [Finale] Crediting the copyist

2010-03-30 Thread dhbailey
Rich Caldwell wrote: The composer of a piece I'm currently working on said I should put my name on the last page of the score to credit myself as the engraver. My first reaction was that engravers don't normally do this, but I might be assuming incorrectly. After all, if I'm wrong, I could lose

Re: [Finale] Noteflight

2010-03-30 Thread dhbailey
Barbara Touburg wrote: I found this in a Dutch music magazine: http://www.noteflight.com/ What do we think of this? Barbara ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Any program which doesn't reside on

Re: [Finale] untitled

2010-03-28 Thread dhbailey
dc wrote: Is there a standard (Italian?) term used as a heading for a piece that has no title, in the context of a work where all the other movements have a title? Allemande Courante [???] Sarabande etc. Thanks, Dennis ___ Finale mailing list

Re: [Finale] Blog Format

2010-03-24 Thread dhbailey
Nigel Hanley wrote: I have enjoyed this reading this mailing list on and off for near on fourteen years, correct me if it hasn't been around that long. I am a Finale user since 2.0, currently Fin 2007. Has there ever been discussion about taking this list to a blog format? There's been no

Re: [Finale] repeats and endings

2010-03-23 Thread dhbailey
David W. Fenton wrote: On 22 Mar 2010 at 17:11, dhbailey wrote: Perhaps if you were to explain more fully the road map for the work in question, we could offer better insight to help you make the music the clearest. Maybe it's my early music background, but for one particular situation, I

Re: [Finale] repeats again (rondeau)

2010-03-23 Thread dhbailey
dc wrote: What's the clearest way to write an |:A:|BACA piece if I don't write out in full the three A sections (to avoid page turns). The original simply has Da Capo at the end of B and C, and a fermata on the last note of A. People with experience in the music of the period you're

Re: [Finale] repeats and endings

2010-03-23 Thread dhbailey
Mike McGowan wrote: Many of the old marches (certainly the ragtime marches) used an unusual repeat system: the first strain has a first ending, second ending which moves to the 2nd strain, and a fine' ending. After the third strain, one will D.S. back to the first strain and take the fine'

Re: [Finale] repeats and endings

2010-03-22 Thread dhbailey
dc wrote: I have a piece with three endings, where 1 3 are identical. Is it kosher to put them both under the same bracket, say, with 1. 3. and then 2. Thanks, I've seen it done, but I do agree with Darcy that the answer should be no. The main reason is that the road map issues can

Re: [Finale] composers and new effects

2010-03-17 Thread dhbailey
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: On Wed, March 17, 2010 12:29 am, Michael Greensill wrote: Now, after about 100 years, if we could just get string sections to learn how to swing.. [Coffee-Sputter] Maybe Dudamel will. I had one conductor explain to me that string players are so driven to be in

Re: [Finale] composers and new effects

2010-03-17 Thread dhbailey
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: On Wed, March 17, 2010 7:16 am, dhbailey wrote: On the other hand, in my opinion, the reality of the situation is that string players can't swing because nobody's taught them how. Nobody's made them play swing music. It's not that they can't, they just need

Re: [Finale] OT: blowing air through brass instruments

2010-03-15 Thread dhbailey
timothy.price wrote: On Mar 14, 2010, at 2:03 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: reversing the mouthpiece *definitely* does. As radical an idea as actual experimentation may be, I tried it on my trumpet, and by gosh, you get a much louder sound using the reversed mouthpiece. Imagine that !

Re: [Finale] OT: blowing air through brass instruments

2010-03-15 Thread dhbailey
John Howell wrote: At 10:58 AM -0400 3/15/10, dhbailey wrote: timothy.price wrote: As radical an idea as actual experimentation may be, I tried it on my trumpet, and by gosh, you get a much louder sound using the reversed mouthpiece. Imagine that ! But you also get a different timbre, so

Re: [Finale] OT: blowing air through brass instruments

2010-03-14 Thread dhbailey
Robert Patterson wrote: On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 7:47 PM, dhbailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com wrote: Perhaps the effect differs with different numbers of people doing it, but I've heard it done quite effectively without anybody reversing mouthpieces. So help me to understand. You

Re: [Finale] OT: blowing air through brass instruments

2010-03-13 Thread dhbailey
Guy Hayden wrote: Not being a brass player, I find this suggestion difficult to understand. Can you describe it a bit more clearly? Do you blow across the wrong end of the mouthpiece like blowing across a beer bottle? What I cannot figure is the idea of inverting the mouthpiece. Aren't they

Re: [Finale] OT: blowing air through brass instruments

2010-03-13 Thread dhbailey
Andrew Stiller wrote: On Mar 12, 2010, at 6:27 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: I clearly remember what our principal trumpet said one time to a composer who had asked fro the effect (n the middle of rehearsal in front of the entire orch. and conductor). You know, I have spent a lot of money to

Re: [Finale] OT: blowing air through brass instruments

2010-03-13 Thread dhbailey
Robert Patterson wrote: On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Andrew Stiller kalli...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Are you saying the effect is impossible? If so, I can cite numerous recordings from major composers proving you wrong. If it's not impossible, then what are you saying? That it's beneath your

Re: [Finale] Text expressions : 'poco' italic or not?

2010-03-11 Thread dhbailey
Kim Patrick Clow wrote: Good day: Hi all: I am working on some 18th century manuscripts, many times I will see poco F or poco piano or poco forte. The default text setting in some music engraving applications is for italic (e.g. Sibelius); but aren't italics traditionally seen as editorial

Re: [Finale] Text expressions : 'poco' italic or not?

2010-03-11 Thread dhbailey
Eric Fiedler wrote: The general rule, set forth for example in the chapter on the NBA in Bärenreiter's Editionsrichtlinien (latest edition: Bärenreiter 2000), is that _all_ additions by the editor should be clearly designated as such. This means _cursive_ for added text, dotted slurs [in my

Re: [Finale] Re: phantom word extension

2010-03-07 Thread dhbailey
Don Hart wrote: Solved with the Update smart word extensions and hyphens feature in the *utilities menu*! A feature I was unaware of, (new since 2006, I guess) that seems totally worthy of membership somewhere in the Lyrics menu. Or so one would think. - DH I've long ago given up trying

Re: [Finale] crash when un/plugging USB headset

2010-03-07 Thread dhbailey
SN jef chippewa wrote: is there something in the audio/MIDI setup that could be letting this happen? i get a crash whenever plugging or unplugging a logitech USB headset (headphones + mic). ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] Re: phantom word extension

2010-03-07 Thread dhbailey
Barbara Touburg wrote: dhbailey wrote: I've long ago given up trying to decipher any logic in the MakeMusic placement of menu items. Should we send a request for editable menu structures, like M$ Word has? Or can someone write a plugin for it? I doubt a plug-in could change the menu

Re: [Finale] endings and time sigs

2010-03-05 Thread dhbailey
dc wrote: If one has a change in time signature between 1st and 2nd endings, should the first hook of the 2nd be placed before or after the new time sig? If the new time signature is part of the 2nd ending, then the first hook of the ending bracket should be before the new time signature,

Re: [Finale] Playback Bugs

2010-03-01 Thread dhbailey
Michael Lawlor wrote: [Finale 2009] A couple of weeks ago I asked about a problem with Finale failing while human playback is on. I got no response to that, but I am now encountering several problems with playback, including one I used to have with an older version of Finale. Following is a

Re: [Finale] A bit OT: Henle engraver plate

2010-02-27 Thread dhbailey
SN jef chippewa wrote: i guess you can't specify which plate you would want if you order one? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale There wasn't an option when I ordered mine. -- David H. Bailey

Re: [Finale] [OT] cue in C tpt before Bb picc tpt entry

2010-02-27 Thread dhbailey
SN jef chippewa wrote: sorry, should have mentioned chromatic trans, no key sigs. so just to make sure, even though the part is for C tpt, since the player has just taken the Bb picc tpt to play, the cue should be in Bb picc, yes? tpt in C has a cue just before its entry (was previously

Re: [Finale] A bit OT: Henle engraver plate

2010-02-26 Thread dhbailey
David W. Fenton wrote: On 25 Feb 2010 at 13:57, Ryan wrote: On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 1:46 PM, David W. Fenton lists.fin...@dfenton.comwrote: On 25 Feb 2010 at 22:35, Jari Williamsson wrote: I highly recommend these Henle plates. It just becomes so much easier to understand the reasons why

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