Re: [Finale] Adding new staff/instrument without affecting existing layout
Fantastic!!! I've been wanting something like this for years. Bravo! Steve On 11/29/16 11:36 AM, "finale-boun...@shsu.edu on behalf of Robert Patterson" wrote: >I suppose adding at the bottom and reordering on by-system basis achieves >the result. But I am not happy about being unable to add staves in the >proper order. So yesterday I added a "cache/restore" feature to my >plugins. >It allows you to cache your systems before adding staves/instruments and >then restore them afterwards. As long as you don't add any music to the >new >staves before restoring, your restored systems are identical to the way >they were before. > >I can't believe Finale doesn't have this, but it will be available in the >next release of Patterson Plugins. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Adding new staff/instrument without affecting existing layout
I suppose adding at the bottom and reordering on by-system basis achieves the result. But I am not happy about being unable to add staves in the proper order. So yesterday I added a "cache/restore" feature to my plugins. It allows you to cache your systems before adding staves/instruments and then restore them afterwards. As long as you don't add any music to the new staves before restoring, your restored systems are identical to the way they were before. I can't believe Finale doesn't have this, but it will be available in the next release of Patterson Plugins. On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz < bath...@maltedmedia.com> wrote: > On Mon, November 28, 2016 9:59 am, Robert Patterson wrote: > > It seems like I had figured out a way to add a staff to an existing > > document without affecting any existing systems. However, when I do it > > using either double-click in the Staff Tool or Add Instrument in the > Score > > Manager, it adds the new staff to every system and staff set. Does anyone > > know a way to not have this happen? > > I just tried this. Maybe you did this already. Finale 2014.5, Windows. > > I double-clicked in scroll view to add a new staff AT THE BOTTOM. I > switched > to page view (where I have no auto-updating of anything) and the news staff > was off the page as expected. > > I selected that staff by clicking to the left of it, then 'hide'. All of > the > new staff occurrences disappeared. > > Next I switched to the selection tool, and selected all the measure stacks > on > one page by double-clicking the first measure and shift-clicking the last > measure. Then I switched to the staff tool and 'unhide'. > > The new staff reappeared on just that page, at the bottom. > > Then I chose 'reorder staves' and moved it up. > > The rest of the score remained unaffected. > > Does that do what you want? > > Dennis > > > > > > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Adding new staff/instrument without affecting existing layout
On Mon, November 28, 2016 9:59 am, Robert Patterson wrote: > It seems like I had figured out a way to add a staff to an existing > document without affecting any existing systems. However, when I do it > using either double-click in the Staff Tool or Add Instrument in the Score > Manager, it adds the new staff to every system and staff set. Does anyone > know a way to not have this happen? I just tried this. Maybe you did this already. Finale 2014.5, Windows. I double-clicked in scroll view to add a new staff AT THE BOTTOM. I switched to page view (where I have no auto-updating of anything) and the news staff was off the page as expected. I selected that staff by clicking to the left of it, then 'hide'. All of the new staff occurrences disappeared. Next I switched to the selection tool, and selected all the measure stacks on one page by double-clicking the first measure and shift-clicking the last measure. Then I switched to the staff tool and 'unhide'. The new staff reappeared on just that page, at the bottom. Then I chose 'reorder staves' and moved it up. The rest of the score remained unaffected. Does that do what you want? Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Adding new staff/instrument without affecting existing layout
Two points: I'm adding a new staff, so there won't be any notes in it. "Hide Empty Staves" does not always restore my systems to the exact staff spacing as before, so it is not an acceptable solution. FWIW: The reason for this is that I need to add (in this case a percussion) instrument after I've already laid out a dozen or more pages. The new instrument won't be used on any of the pages I've already laid out. On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 9:33 AM, David H. Bailey wrote: > On 11/28/2016 9:59 AM, Robert Patterson wrote: > > It seems like I had figured out a way to add a staff to an existing > > document without affecting any existing systems. However, when I do it > > using either double-click in the Staff Tool or Add Instrument in the > Score > > Manager, it adds the new staff to every system and staff set. Does anyone > > know a way to not have this happen? > > After it gets added, use staff tool to select that added staff and use > the "Hide Empty Staves" command in the Staff menu and any systems where > there aren't notes on that staff won't have it show. > > -- > * > David H. Bailey > dhbaile...@comcast.net > http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Adding new staff/instrument without affecting existing layout
On 11/28/2016 9:59 AM, Robert Patterson wrote: > It seems like I had figured out a way to add a staff to an existing > document without affecting any existing systems. However, when I do it > using either double-click in the Staff Tool or Add Instrument in the Score > Manager, it adds the new staff to every system and staff set. Does anyone > know a way to not have this happen? After it gets added, use staff tool to select that added staff and use the "Hide Empty Staves" command in the Staff menu and any systems where there aren't notes on that staff won't have it show. -- * David H. Bailey dhbaile...@comcast.net http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Adding new staff/instrument without affecting existing layout
I’m not sure I understand the question. How would adding another staff NOT affect the layout? It makes every system exactly one staff taller. You can choose the new staff everywhere except the place you want it with the Staff Tool and select Hide Empty Staves. This only works in Page view. For Staff Sets (in scroll view) you would have to redefine them to exclude the new staff. I am guessing you have Violin 1 split into two staves for a brief passage, or something like that? This is the way to do it. You also have to add the new staff to the existing Violin 1 part and create the Group while in the part. Christopher > On Mon Nov 28, at MondayNov 28 9:59 AM, Robert Patterson > wrote: > > It seems like I had figured out a way to add a staff to an existing > document without affecting any existing systems. However, when I do it > using either double-click in the Staff Tool or Add Instrument in the Score > Manager, it adds the new staff to every system and staff set. Does anyone > know a way to not have this happen? > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
[Finale] Adding new staff/instrument without affecting existing layout
It seems like I had figured out a way to add a staff to an existing document without affecting any existing systems. However, when I do it using either double-click in the Staff Tool or Add Instrument in the Score Manager, it adds the new staff to every system and staff set. Does anyone know a way to not have this happen? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu