Re: [Finale] Copy and paste
This is a new “feature” that is turned on by default in the new versions. It might be useful for an amateur who doesn’t know instrument/voice ranges, but for pros it’s annoying as heck. To turn it off, Finale menu>Preferences>Edit, uncheck “Respect instrument ranges when copying or changing instruments”. Save preferences and it will never bother you again… until the next update. Christopher > On Dec 19, 2017, at 7:48 AM, Lawrence David Eden <lde...@comcast.net> wrote: > > Fellow Listers, > > I recently started using FinaleMac 25 (I upgraded from 2K11) and I have a > question about copy and paste. > Finale seems to be applying an octave transposition when I paste. I don’t > know why this is, but I want it to stop. > Clearly, I have something set wrong in my program options…or is it something > else? > > I look forward to reading your replies and wish you all a fine holiday season. > > Larry Eden > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
[Finale] Copy and paste
Fellow Listers, I recently started using FinaleMac 25 (I upgraded from 2K11) and I have a question about copy and paste. Finale seems to be applying an octave transposition when I paste. I don’t know why this is, but I want it to stop. Clearly, I have something set wrong in my program options…or is it something else? I look forward to reading your replies and wish you all a fine holiday season. Larry Eden ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Copy and Paste Text Boxes
Trent J: I've got a couple of items with figured bass that I eventually intend to set in Finale. When I get to these, I expect to follow the suggestion in the Finale Users guide about using the facilities of the Chord tool to try to implement the figured bass. I expect that this will involve developing new chord libraries, and if there is a good tutorial on this, I have yet to find it. More daunting, I don't know of anyone who has been happy with the results that they have obtained setting Figured Bass in any method. Intuitively, it seems to me that the chord tool is probably the way to go, but I suspect those most knowledgeable about the chord tool have are least interested in figured bass, and those most interested in figured bass are perhaps among the least interested in the chord tool. One of the reasons in favor of my using the chord tool, is that the chord tool will support playback while text blocks do not. While articulation and expression tools also affect playback, I don't know if these tools can effectively manage figured bass. A couple of months ago, I bought my first digital camera, and I've been spending some time looking at the digital processing of images, in particular the amount of meta-data that is recorded in and for digital images. One of the reasons I was interested in this, is that I had begun approaching the same thing with Finale. Finale already has a small amount built in, in the form of the file info, the title, composer, copyright info, c. But it has been an irritation of mine, probably since 2k1 (which was just a couple of months after I started using Finale; I bought 2k in May, and 2k1 came out in August) that Finale does not have more meta data designed in than it does. Since most of my work has been choral, I would have liked metadata for source / lyricist, and translator. And while there was some improvement in the amount of file info over the years, I still find it insufficient, to the point that a couple of years ago, I decided to abandon the set-up wizard, in favor of use of more templates as starting points for compositions. What I have evolved at this point, is that the first couple of pages at the very beginning of my file with all of the text blocks I need for a piece of choral music. There are predefined blocks for headers, footers, page numbers, Titles, Subtitles, Composer, Arranger, Lyricist / translator, dedication line, publisher, c. I also include special information about the file in these pages: a block usually details printer settings, how the paper is oriented, what the settings in the dialog are, and in what order the pages are printed, and if there is a reference to a graphic, a text block on these pages details where the graphic is found, and where it is in my file system. It is trivial in this instance to add style blocks if I need one for special purposes, where the contents can be copied into a real text block that might be placed later in the score. It seems to me that one thing which might be a time saver in what you are attempting to do is to adjust your work flow procedures. If you put all of the figured bass in at one time, just before you start, you can change the default text block font to the font and size you prefer for figured bass, and then when you are done entering the figured bass, change the default fonts back. ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Copy and Paste Text Boxes
On 26.10.2006 Noel Stoutenburg wrote: I've got a couple of items with figured bass that I eventually intend to set in Finale. When I get to these, I expect to follow the suggestion in the Finale Users guide about using the facilities of the Chord tool to try to implement the figured bass. I expect that this will involve developing new chord libraries, and if there is a good tutorial on this, I have yet to find it. More daunting, I don't know of anyone who has been happy with the results that they have obtained setting Figured Bass in any method. Intuitively, it seems to me that the chord tool is probably the way to go, but I suspect those most knowledgeable about the chord tool have are least interested in figured bass, and those most interested in figured bass are perhaps among the least interested in the chord tool. One of the reasons in favor of my using the chord tool, is that the chord tool will support playback while text blocks do not. While articulation and expression tools also affect playback, I don't know if these tools can effectively manage figured bass. If you are talking baroque figured bass, with special symbols like crossed out numbers etc, forget the chord tool, you would regret it. I have tried this years ago, but it is a complete nightmare. I have since only used lyrics, with a special font, not unlike Ansgar Krause's Finale Figured Bass, but optimized in such a way that it can be used left alligned, allowing to enter things like 6 5 4 3 under one note using hard spaces. Your best bet in my opinion is to either follow Ansgar's instructions and use his font, or design your own (in a font editor). I bought 2k in May, and 2k1 came out in August) that Finale does not have more meta data designed in than it does. Write to MM and request more fields, like I have several times. This would also allow an easier integration of house styles in Finale. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Copy and Paste Text Boxes
On 26.10.2006 Trent Johnston wrote: Is there a way in either Finale 2005 (current version I'm using) or the new 2007 to copy and paste measure based text boxes. I can't seem to find a way to do this. Selecting a text box only allows me to edit it not copy and paste it somewhere else. I haven't got the time to try this right now, but I believe this can be done using the mass edit tool, and copying only the measure attached text blocks. I am not quite sure what the procedure is in 2k5, since the copying interface has changed in 2k6 I believe, but it is still possible, I think. However, I seriously doubt that using measure attached text blocks for figured bass is in any way practical. Currently, lyrics is the way to go. In the future I am still hoping that MM will include a figured bass mode in the chord tool, but at the moment the chord tool is completely useless for serious figured bass entry. I have been through all the possibilities for figured bass in Finale, and the only practical way imo is to use the lyrics tool with a special font. See my other post. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Copy and Paste Text Boxes
Thanks everyone for your help. Yes I'm using Ansgar Krause's Font. As you said your email using lyrics means that a figured symbol can only be over (or under) a note. Text boxes are relatively quick especially since your Mass Edit suggestion I just paste them in click in the box and change the figure and drag exactly where I want them. Yes, no figured bass coming from Sibelius was a bit of shock.. the figured bass feature in Sibelius is only another lyric/text tool that either jumps to the next note or beat in bar. Trent - Original Message - From: Johannes Gebauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Copy and Paste Text Boxes | On 26.10.2006 Noel Stoutenburg wrote: | I've got a couple of items with figured bass that I eventually intend to set in Finale. When I get to these, I expect to follow the suggestion in the Finale Users guide about using the facilities of the Chord tool to try to implement the figured bass. I expect that this will involve developing new chord libraries, and if there is a good tutorial on this, I have yet to find it. More daunting, I don't know of anyone who has been happy with the results that they have obtained setting Figured Bass in any method. Intuitively, it seems to me that the chord tool is probably the way to go, but I suspect those most knowledgeable about the chord tool have are least interested in figured bass, and those most interested in figured bass are perhaps among the least interested in the chord tool. One of the reasons in favor of my using the chord tool, is that the chord tool will support playback while text blocks do not. While articulation and expression tools also affect playback, | I don't know if these tools can effectively manage figured bass. | | | If you are talking baroque figured bass, with special symbols like | crossed out numbers etc, forget the chord tool, you would regret it. I | have tried this years ago, but it is a complete nightmare. | | I have since only used lyrics, with a special font, not unlike Ansgar | Krause's Finale Figured Bass, but optimized in such a way that it can be | used left alligned, allowing to enter things like | | 6 5 | 4 3 | | under one note using hard spaces. | | Your best bet in my opinion is to either follow Ansgar's instructions | and use his font, or design your own (in a font editor). | | I bought 2k in May, and 2k1 came out in August) that Finale does not have more meta data designed in than it does. | | Write to MM and request more fields, like I have several times. This | would also allow an easier integration of house styles in Finale. | | Johannes | -- | http://www.musikmanufaktur.com | http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de | | ___ | Finale mailing list | Finale@shsu.edu | http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale | ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Copy and Paste Text Boxes
- Original Message - From: dc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu; finale@shsu.edu Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 12:04 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] Copy and Paste Text Boxes | Johannes Gebauer écrit: | Well, not strictly true. You can drag lyric syllables, too. However, my | answer to the problem is a changed figured bass font, which works left | alligned and uses hard spaces to place figures at other places. This works | well for me, and I find it a lot easier than dragging around objects, | whether lyrics or text blocks. | | This can only work with music that doesn't use normal lyrics. The best | solution for me is to enter ghost rests. Dragging things around is never | a good idea. | | Dennis | Do ghost rests or notes affect spacing? If they don't then this would be a good method. I've tried with lyrics before - I put the figured bass into the - chorus - since this isn't a rock song then a chorus style is pretty useless to perfect for the figured bass. Johannes idea of a changed font is worth looking at to... since figured progressions on the same note need to aligned the same. Trent ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Copy and Paste Text Boxes
Hello everyone, Is there a way in either Finale 2005 (current version I'm using) or the new 2007 to copy and paste measure based text boxes. I can't seem to find a way to do this. Selecting a text box only allows me to edit it not copy and paste it somewhere else. Any help appreciated. Trent ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Copy and Paste Text Boxes
Trent Johnston wrote: Hello everyone, Is there a way in either Finale 2005 (current version I'm using) or the new 2007 to copy and paste measure based text boxes. I can't seem to find a way to do this. Selecting a text box only allows me to edit it not copy and paste it somewhere else. Not as far as I know. My usual work-around is to select and open the box I want to copy, copy the contents of the Edit text dialog box, then close the dialog, and close the text block. I move to the page and location where I want to copy the box to, open a new box, and paste in the contents. On the other hand, if you want to move instead of copy the text block, this is easily done in the text block attributes dialog: simply determine the values of the text block in the new location, open the text block attributes dialog box of the block you wish to move, and enter the desired location (page, location on the page, and offsets) into the dialog box. ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Copy and Paste Text Boxes
Thanks Noel. It's a strange ommission. Makes it very hard when using a lot a text boxes especially if they have specific fonts and sizes. It would be much easier to create one text box in the style and then copy and paste them as needed then the user would only have to edit the information but font and size would be already set. I was hoping that this would be a simplier way of entering a figured bass.. a bit easier than using lyrics as I could put the figures anywhere on the measure and not only associated with a note .. a limitation when using lyrics. I'll try the reverse... copying the text or first figure and then creating a text box and paste the figure then over-write with the new. Just as long as the font and size information stays with the copied and pasted information. Trent From: Noel Stoutenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: finale@shsu.edu To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Copy and Paste Text Boxes Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:34:42 -0500 Trent Johnston wrote: Hello everyone, Is there a way in either Finale 2005 (current version I'm using) or the new 2007 to copy and paste measure based text boxes. I can't seem to find a way to do this. Selecting a text box only allows me to edit it not copy and paste it somewhere else. Not as far as I know. My usual work-around is to select and open the box I want to copy, copy the contents of the Edit text dialog box, then close the dialog, and close the text block. I move to the page and location where I want to copy the box to, open a new box, and paste in the contents. On the other hand, if you want to move instead of copy the text block, this is easily done in the text block attributes dialog: simply determine the values of the text block in the new location, open the text block attributes dialog box of the block you wish to move, and enter the desired location (page, location on the page, and offsets) into the dialog box. ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale _ Thousands of sexy singles online http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fclickthru%2Fclickthru%2Eact%3Fid%3Dninemsn%26context%3Dan99%26locale%3Den%5FAU%26a%3D23768_t=754951090_r=endtext_lavalife_oct_1000_m=EXT ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
