Re: [Finale] TAN: Olympic Star Spangled Banner

2004-08-29 Thread Dennis W. Manasco
At 4:29 pm -0400 8/28/04, Darcy James Argue wrote: No, that's not what I meant at all. What I meant was, Brad seemed to be having trouble putting himself in the shoes of an Iraqi olympian who has lost thousands of his countrymen and finds his country occupied by a foreign power. Oh. That one.

Re: [Finale] TAN: Olympic Star Spangled Banner

2004-08-28 Thread dhbailey
Brad Beyenhof wrote: On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 21:45:01 -0700, Richard Yates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like the arrangement that is being used in the Olympics this time around. The '..rockets red glare' section is sweet and peaceful. Not a good match for the words, but better than an a swaggering

Re: [Finale] TAN: Olympic Star Spangled Banner

2004-08-28 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
I certainly do not consider myself to be overly chauvinistic or a jingoist. However, in consideration of all our country has done for the world over the past two hundred years in terms of global aide and other charitable acts, I am much more than sick and tired of being portrayed as the

Re: [Finale] TAN: Olympic Star Spangled Banner

2004-08-28 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 28 Aug 2004, at 03:04 PM, Richard Walsh wrote: Huh, I'm sorry if this is off topic, but kindly name for me the source of this outrageous statement, Sure thing: Since the late 1940s, when more than 15% of every U.S. tax dollar was sent overseas to help rebuild war-torn Europe, the share of

Re: [Finale] TAN: Olympic Star Spangled Banner

2004-08-28 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 15:13:16 -0400, Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, I just can't let this go. Brad wrote (RE: a member of the Iraqi soccer team): What a bunch of ingrates! We rescue his country from the grip of a tyrant, and this is the thanks we get? What it comes

Re: [Finale] TAN: Olympic Star Spangled Banner

2004-08-28 Thread Jari Williamsson
Dean M. Estabrook writes: And, where is the outrage over the HOST crowd preventing the start of a race via the jeering directed at three Americans who simply came to their country to compete in an environment of purported equal access and non bias? Considering the fact that the situation

Re: [Finale] TAN: Olympic Star Spangled Banner

2004-08-28 Thread Richard Walsh
If I could chime in here, there is one posture (other than loved and feared) that was left out of the equation, and that was respected, It is good to be loved, if not loved, then at least respected, if not respected, then one must be feared... 'twas ever thus. RW On Saturday, August 28, 2004,

Re: [Finale] TAN: Olympic Star Spangled Banner

2004-08-28 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 28 Aug 2004, at 04:19 PM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: I inferred from your post that we Americans didn't know how it felt to lose a large number of countrymen in an attack by a foreign force. No, that's not what I meant at all. What I meant was, Brad seemed to be having trouble putting himself

Re: [Finale] TAN: Olympic Star Spangled Banner

2004-08-28 Thread Mark D Lew
On Aug 28, 2004, at 9:56 AM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: As for the the emotional effect of our National Anthem, I prefer a version which constricts my throat muscles and produces horripilation [...] I don't know about horripilation, but I definitely prefer a version which DOESN'T constrict my

Re: [Finale] TAN: Olympic Star Spangled Banner

2004-08-28 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
On Aug 28, 2004, at 1:29 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 28 Aug 2004, at 04:19 PM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: I inferred from your post that we Americans didn't know how it felt to lose a large number of countrymen in an attack by a foreign force. No, that's not what I meant at all. What I meant

Re: [Finale] TAN: Olympic Star Spangled Banner

2004-08-28 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 16:29:23 -0400, Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 28 Aug 2004, at 04:19 PM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: I inferred from your post that we Americans didn't know how it felt to lose a large number of countrymen in an attack by a foreign force. No, that's not

[Finale] TAN: Olympic Star Spangled Banner

2004-08-27 Thread Richard Yates
I like the arrangement that is being used in the Olympics this time around. The '..rockets red glare' section is sweet and peaceful. Not a good match for the words, but better than an a swaggering march. Anyone know who did it or how they choose? Richard Yates