Hi all,
Is it possible to have automatically both 2 time-signatures, (into parenthesis
or not) at the beginning of a measure :
- (9/8) 3/4
- 7/8 (4+3/8)
- (3+4/8) 7/8
- 4/4 (8/8)?
(Sorry for my poor english.)
Pierre
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Pierre:
First, I should note that your English is a whole lot better than my French.
Is it possible to have automatically both 2 time-signatures, (into parenthesis
or not) at the beginning of a measure :
- (9/8) 3/4
- 7/8 (4+3/8)
- (3+4/8) 7/8
- 4/4 (8/8)?
Given that you seem (from previous
I have a file in which I cannot change the time signatures of any measures.
The Time Signature Dialog Box seems to work normally but the measures do not
change when I exit the box. Nothing in the box seems to have any effect
(different time display, rebar, etc). The file was concatenated from
I tried the file and could change measures no problem.
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Richard Yates rich...@yatesguitar.com wrote:
I have a file in which I cannot change the time signatures of any measures.
The Time Signature Dialog Box seems to work normally but the measures do not
change
Thanks. Did you use 2007?
I tried the file and could change measures no problem.
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Richard Yates
rich...@yatesguitar.com wrote:
I have a file in which I cannot change the time signatures
of any measures.
The Time Signature Dialog Box seems to work
Richard Yates wrote:
I have a file in which I cannot change the time signatures of any measures.
The Time Signature Dialog Box seems to work normally but the measures do not
change when I exit the box. Nothing in the box seems to have any effect
(different time display, rebar, etc). The file was
Nolater version of finale
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On Oct 30, 2009, at 9:39 AM, Richard Yates rich...@yatesguitar.com
wrote:
Thanks. Did you use 2007?
I tried the file and could change measures no problem.
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Richard Yates
Eric Dannewitz wrote:
Nolater version of finale
My test was done with FinWin08.
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Richard Yates wrote:
I have a file in which I cannot change the time signatures
of any measures.
The Time Signature Dialog Box seems to work normally but
the measures
do not change when I exit the box. Nothing in the box seems to have
any effect (different time display, rebar, etc).
I had no problems changing time sig in 2008 or 2009. I don't have 2007 so
can't try that, sorry.
JR
On 10/30/09 11:38 AM, Richard Yates rich...@yatesguitar.com wrote:
I have a file in which I cannot change the time signatures of any measures.
The Time Signature Dialog Box seems to work
Hi all,
I forget if this is easy and I've forgotten.
How to remove the lower character (demoninator) from all time signatures
in a score? They change every measure and I only want the upper value.
There doesn't seem to be anything native nor in the third-party plugins. I
the old days I used
I forget if this is easy and I've forgotten.
negative value of 5 bajillion
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Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
Hi all,
I forget if this is easy and I've forgotten.
How to remove the lower character (demoninator) from all time signatures
in a score? They change every measure and I only want the upper value.
Easy indeed.
Options - Document Options - Time signature
Lower
Hmm. This is reminiscent of an issue I've encountered many times
when adding a Measure Expression. I'll click on the measure, go thru
the steps to create the expression, and when I return to the score,
no expression. It's actually been attached to another measure on the
page, and is
I've noticed this particularly when dealing with staves that have
been reduced with the Percent Tool (whatever the real name is.)
Christopher
On 21-Sep-07, at 12:39 PM, ThomaStudios wrote:
Hmm. This is reminiscent of an issue I've encountered many times
when adding a Measure Expression.
Sorry it's taken me so long to respond on this. But today I
realized, quite by accident, that every time I attempted to change
the time signature on the recalcitrant measure, it was actually
changing the 4th measure way back at the beginning, even tho I was
selecting the 56th measure.
I've seen this bug in 2007. Another way it shows is when you double
click a measure in the Measure Tool to add a double bar, and it adds
it in two places. THere are other manifestations, but I can't think
of another right now.
To the best of my knowledge, it is not present in 2008 (one of
I'm working in a Fin2K7 Mac file that I've been working with for
several months. It was created in 2K7. I've had this problem before
and can't remember how I've gotten around it: working in the score,
I have a measure that steadfastly refuses to allow me to change the
time signature.
On Sep 17, 2007, at 6:17 PM, ThomaStudios wrote:
I'm working in a Fin2K7 Mac file that I've been working with for
several months. It was created in 2K7. I've had this problem
before and can't remember how I've gotten around it: working in
the score, I have a measure that steadfastly
If there is doubt in anyone's mind that simple time signatures are
the norm in jazz, take a look at this piece, notated as closely as it
can be according to the way Bill Evans played it. The bass and drum
parts remain in 2/4 and a kind of 3/4 that crosses over a 4/4 feeling
in the bridge,
On 5 Mar 2007 at 13:18, Chuck Israels wrote:
If there is doubt in anyone's mind that simple time signatures are
the norm in jazz, take a look at this piece, notated as closely as it
can be according to the way Bill Evans played it. The bass and drum
parts remain in 2/4 and a kind of 3/4
Agreed.
Chuck
On Mar 5, 2007, at 1:39 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 5 Mar 2007 at 13:18, Chuck Israels wrote:
If there is doubt in anyone's mind that simple time signatures are
the norm in jazz, take a look at this piece, notated as closely as it
can be according to the way Bill Evans
Of Derek Kane
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 3:31 PM
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: [Finale] time signature question
Greetings,
Just a quick question here, I am working with a symphonic score, and I
want
one staff to be in 12/8 and the rest to be in 4/4 (or common time). Later
Greetings,
Just a quick question here, I am working with a symphonic score, and I want
one staff to be in 12/8 and the rest to be in 4/4 (or common time). Later
in the piece I want one staff to be in 4/4 while all the others are in 12/8.
Any suggestions?
Thanks for all your help.
At 04:30 PM 12/8/2006, Derek Kane wrote:
Just a quick question here, I am working with a symphonic score, and I want
one staff to be in 12/8 and the rest to be in 4/4 (or common time). Later
in the piece I want one staff to be in 4/4 while all the others are in 12/8.
Any suggestions?
Sure.
On 21 Jan 2006 at 19:42, Eric Dannewitz wrote:
Keep in mind, this is the guy who didn't take time to RTFM
That's a filthy lie.
I clearly stated several times that really *did* read the manual, but
I wasn't successful in finding the part having the needed
explanation.
And you probably know
You did read the manual? Oh yeah, just didn't see anything under OCTAVE,
or doubling. I don't need to pour salt in your wounds anymore. I know it
hurts. And it's not a filthy lie, unlike most of the posts you do here.
However, you are coming across as a know it all. Just stop it. Stop
On 22 Jan 2006 at 11:43, Eric Dannewitz wrote:
You did read the manual? Oh yeah, just didn't see anything under
OCTAVE, or doubling. I don't need to pour salt in your wounds anymore.
I know it hurts. And it's not a filthy lie, unlike most of the posts
you do here.
It is a blatant lie and you
Thank you to Johannes, Robert and Eric for the help on this.
There is one thing I discovered which seems to alleviate the need for
TGTools in this situation. I kept the 3/4 part of the signature in the Time
Signature tool and replaced the plus sign with an *option* space. This gave
me enough
Don Hart wrote:
Thank you to Johannes, Robert and Eric for the help on this.
There is one thing I discovered which seems to alleviate the need for
TGTools in this situation. I kept the 3/4 part of the signature in the Time
Signature tool and replaced the plus sign with an *option* space.
I don't know what Don's piece looks like, but to take a well-known
example: I like to be in America is notated this way, with 6/8(3/4)
as time signature at the beginning, and I don't think there's any doubt
how to play or conduct this piece.
Michael Cook
On 21 Jan 2006, at 12:21, dhbailey
Le 06-01-21 à 06:21, dhbailey a écrit :If you're just placing the two meters beside each other at the start of the work, how will anybody know when a measure is supposed to get the 3/4 feeling instead of hemiolas in 6/8? With both meters allowing 6 8th notes (or 3 quarter notes) it may not be
On 1/21/06, Éric Dussault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Le 06-01-21 à 06:21, dhbailey a écrit :
If you're just placing the two meters beside each other at
the start of the work, how will anybody know when a measure
is supposed to get the 3/4 feeling instead of hemiolas in 6/8?
With both meters
Yes, but what if there are no beams (a half note and a quarter note,
for example)? Also, Finale might make it difficult to ensure correct
beaming, since it will alternate its default beaming between 6/8 and
3/4 in each subsequent measure. That's what adding timesigs together
is supposed to
On Jan 21, 2006, at 11:22 AM, Brad Beyenhof wrote:
On 1/21/06, Éric Dussault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Le 06-01-21 à 06:21, dhbailey a écrit :
If you're just placing the two meters beside each other at
the start of the work, how will anybody know when a measure
is supposed to get the 3/4
On 1/21/06, Christopher Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 21, 2006, at 11:22 AM, Brad Beyenhof wrote:
Yes, but what if there are no beams (a half note and a quarter note,
for example)?
How would your example be performed differently in 6/8 or 3/4?
However, the notation of it looks like
On 21.01.2006 Brad Beyenhof wrote:
Yes, I'll admit that that was a silly example, since it can easily be
adapted to make either signature clear. What about a dotted half?
In what way would a dotted half be performed differently in 6/8 and 3/4?
Reminds me of Gerald Hoffnung (the GP in 3/4,
Christopher Smith wrote:
On Jan 21, 2006, at 11:22 AM, Brad Beyenhof wrote:
On 1/21/06, Éric Dussault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Le 06-01-21 à 06:21, dhbailey a écrit :
If you're just placing the two meters beside each other at
the start of the work, how will anybody know when a measure
is
On 1/21/06, dhbailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am I misunderstanding the process? Is there really a way to enter the
two different meters and have Finale automatically switch beaming
between alternating measures?
Seems I was misremembering with the alternation thing. In any case,
giving the
This is an answer to David's question but it gets into a few of the other
ideas that have been brought up since. I was a little slow getting around
to the list today (it's Saturday after all!).
A recurring rhythmic figure in the piece is:
q e q e / q q q
- one measure clearly 6/8 and one 3/4.
I think that's where I originally saw this sort of thing. - Don
on 1/21/06 5:41 AM, Michael Cook at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't know what Don's piece looks like, but to take a well-known
example: I like to be in America is notated this way, with 6/8(3/4)
as time signature at the
On 21 Jan 2006 at 6:21, dhbailey wrote:
If you're just placing the two meters beside each other at the start
of the work, how will anybody know when a measure is supposed to get
the 3/4 feeling instead of hemiolas in 6/8?
From my point of view this is not a very smart question. Hundreds of
On 21 Jan 2006 at 8:22, Brad Beyenhof wrote:
Yes, but what if there are no beams (a half note and a quarter note,
for example)? . . .
Well, I don't know how someone could play that without it sounding
like it's in 3/4 not 6/8, but if you really wanted them to try, you'd
notate it as dotted
On 21 Jan 2006 at 9:19, Brad Beyenhof wrote:
On 1/21/06, Christopher Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 21, 2006, at 11:22 AM, Brad Beyenhof wrote: Yes, but
what if there are no beams (a half note and a quarter note, for
example)? How would your example be performed differently in
This post provided a nice little nudge for me to explore the positioning of
expressions further than I had previously. I guess those of you who are
more serious about engraving are already on top of things, but those who
aren't should really check this out. I didn't realize that the Measure
I'm using show as and handling the beaming etc. manually. The adjustments
are straight forward and hardly noticeable for this piece.
Don
on 1/21/06 12:25 PM, Brad Beyenhof at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/21/06, dhbailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am I misunderstanding the process? Is
David W. Fenton wrote:
On 21 Jan 2006 at 9:19, Brad Beyenhof wrote:
Yes, I'll admit that that was a silly example, since it can easily be
adapted to make either signature clear. What about a dotted half?
This is a ludicrous question, seems to me, because there's no way
whatsoever for a
At 8:42 PM + 1/21/06, Owain Sutton wrote:
David W. Fenton wrote:
On 21 Jan 2006 at 9:19, Brad Beyenhof wrote:
Yes, I'll admit that that was a silly example, since it can easily be
adapted to make either signature clear. What about a dotted half?
I've stayed out of this particular
Le 06-01-21 à 16:05, John Howell a écrit :And another question: When one does change time signatures, is it proper always to use a double bar line, or never to use a double bar line? I've always used it, but I'm not sure why. Of course I use double bar lines at structural points as well, just
On 1/21/06, Owain Sutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
David W. Fenton wrote:
On 21 Jan 2006 at 9:19, Brad Beyenhof wrote:
Yes, I'll admit that that was a silly example, since it can easily be
adapted to make either signature clear. What about a dotted half?
This is a ludicrous question, seems to
Brad Beyenhof wrote:
On 1/21/06, Owain Sutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
David W. Fenton wrote:
On 21 Jan 2006 at 9:19, Brad Beyenhof wrote:
Yes, I'll admit that that was a silly example, since it can easily be
adapted to make either signature clear. What about a dotted half?
This is a
On 1/21/06, Owain Sutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Brad Beyenhof wrote:
On 1/21/06, Owain Sutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
David W. Fenton wrote:
On 21 Jan 2006 at 9:19, Brad Beyenhof wrote:
Yes, I'll admit that that was a silly example, since it can easily be
adapted to make either signature
David W. Fenton wrote:
On 21 Jan 2006 at 6:21, dhbailey wrote:
If you're just placing the two meters beside each other at the start
of the work, how will anybody know when a measure is supposed to get
the 3/4 feeling instead of hemiolas in 6/8?
From my point of view this is not a very
Exactly. After all, he's ALWAYS right.
Who care what he thinks anyways? I think alternating 3/4 to 6/8 is just
fine, especially if it is some sort of jazz piece where the 6/8 is
played in a different feel. In fact, I know I have played something that
alternated like this fairly recently.
On 21 Jan 2006 at 17:07, dhbailey wrote:
David W. Fenton wrote:
On 21 Jan 2006 at 6:21, dhbailey wrote:
If you're just placing the two meters beside each other at the start
of the work, how will anybody know when a measure is supposed to get
the 3/4 feeling instead of hemiolas in 6/8?
David W. Fenton wrote:
[snip]
My original reply, which I edited, used the term idiotic.
How kind of you. I feel ever so much better now.
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Keep in mind, this is the guy who didn't take time to RTFM
sotake it with a grain of salt..
dhbailey wrote:
David W. Fenton wrote:
[snip]
My original reply, which I edited, used the term idiotic.
How kind of you. I feel ever so much better now.
I think this has been discussed before but I can't remember if there's a way
to do it or not.
The piece I'm working on alternates freely between 6/8 and 3/4 (probably
conducted in one, with a dotted quarter = 90 bpm). Instead of cluttering
the page with many, many time signatures, I want the
On 20.01.2006 Don Hart wrote:
I can get a beautiful 6/8 *plus* 3/4 using the composite option in use
different time signature for display, but haven't found a way to get rid of
the plus sign or add the parentheses (within the realm of the time
signature).
I don't know about the paranthesis,
Don Hart wrote:
I want the time signature to be
6/8 and to have 3/4 show immediately after in parentheses.
Doing it with expressions is quite painless starting in Fin04, esp. with
the help of TGTools to make the space at the beginning of the bar. I
don't know of a better way. I would
Le 06-01-20 à 16:36, Don Hart a écrit :I can get a beautiful 6/8 *plus* 3/4 using the composite option in "use different time signature for display", but haven't found a way to get rid of the plus sign or add the parentheses (within the realm of the time signature). To remove the plus sign, go to
I'm wondering if there's a way to avoid a problem I've created for
myself in the past.
I'm working on an arrangement of a piece notated in 4/4 that really
is better understood in cut time (like many Cole Porter songs), but
I've done it in 4/4, and if I use the time signature tool to use
On 11/16/05, Chuck Israels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm working on an arrangement of a piece notated in 4/4 that really
is better understood in cut time (like many Cole Porter songs), but
I've done it in 4/4, and if I use the time signature tool to use
another time signature for display,
On Nov 16, 2005, at 11:11 AM, Brad Beyenhof wrote:
On 11/16/05, Chuck Israels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm working on an arrangement of a piece notated in 4/4 that really
is better understood in cut time (like many Cole Porter songs), but
I've done it in 4/4, and if I use the time signature
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Subject: Re: [Finale] Time Signature
George Ports wrote:
How can I change the time signature from 1/4 to 4/4 in a pickup measure
without moving anything (Lyrics etc.) around? The 4/4 was accidently put
in measure 1 instead
How can I change the time signature from 1/4 to 4/4
in a pickup measure without moving anything (Lyrics etc.) around? The 4/4 was
accidently put in measure 1 instead of the pickup measure.
I hide the 4/4 measure and can
show the 1/4 measure in the pickup measure but the pickup measure
George Ports wrote:
How can I change the time signature from 1/4 to 4/4 in a pickup measure
without moving anything (Lyrics etc.) around? The 4/4 was accidently put
in measure 1 instead of the pickup measure.
I hide the 4/4 measure and can show the 1/4 measure in the pickup
measure but the
Richard Yates wrote:
The whole system works like it should with TWO or more staves, which is
the only situation I can think of where one would even want independent
key or independent time signatures enabled.
I only discovered it because the SmartScore scanning default leaves that box
checked
Yes: with FinMac 2005 I followed your steps and got the same result,
both with a new file without libraries and with a copy of the default
file. I also tried changing to different time signatures (6/8, 3/2,
composite...), in several measures or only one measure, with the same
result.
As far
Start a new document, single staff, with 4/4 time signature. In Staff
Attributes check 'Independent Key Signature'.
With the Time Signature Tool try to change the time signature to 3/4.
Nothing happens - it won't change. Go back and uncheck 'Independent Key
Signature'. Now changing
My apologies Richard. I think I read your post too hurriedly before trying
it and must have clicked the wrong independent box.
I do indeed replicate your bug. Finale 2005b for Mac.
John Roberts
On 3/27/05 8:38 PM, Richard Yates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
After months of protest at the EPS
It's there if you check the independent KEY signature box (not the
independent time signature box) and then try to change the TIME
signature. It won't change. But if you ALSO check the independent time
signature box it will change.
And once you have TWO staves, the time signature changes
The whole system works like it should with TWO or more staves, which is
the only situation I can think of where one would even want independent
key or independent time signatures enabled.
I only discovered it because the SmartScore scanning default leaves that box
checked even if there is only
After months of protest at the EPS failure I was forced to move up to
Finale2005. The first thing I tried to do revealed a bug. Can anyone confirm
this one?
Start a new document, single staff, with 4/4 time signature. In Staff
Attributes check 'Independent Key Signature'.
With the Time Signature
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005, Richard Yates wrote:
After months of protest at the EPS failure I was forced to move up to
Finale2005. The first thing I tried to do revealed a bug. Can anyone confirm
this one?
I followed your steps to recreate the bug. I tried it with the default
document and a document
No problem here in FinMac 2005 (I have other problems, but let's leave that
one alone for now)
John Roberts
On 3/27/05 8:38 PM, Richard Yates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
After months of protest at the EPS failure I was forced to move up to
Finale2005. The first thing I tried to do revealed a
Dear list,
Something very strange on an imported file : I can't change the measure 1
time signature. When I apply different time signatures to measure 1 through
End of piece, the first measure stay in 1/4? (even when I delete it)??
Thanks for your responses.
Pierre.
Do you have a pickup measure? Options -- Pickup Measure -- Clear pickup
Richard Yates
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From: Pierre Bailleul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 6:36 AM
Subject: [Finale] Time signature
Dear list,
Something very strange
Subject: [Finale] Time signature
Dear list,
Something very strange on an imported file : I can't change the measure 1
time signature. When I apply different time signatures to measure 1
through
End of piece, the first measure stay in 1/4? (even when I delete it)??
Thanks for your responses
Surely you intend that the crotchets in the 2/4 time will be dotted
crotchet length of the crotchets in 3/4 time?
I can't figure how you have different numbers of bars at the end.
I just set up a SATB system and with staff tool set S and A to
independent time sigs, selected 3 bars on these
Greetings Listers,
I am try to transcribe the Zither Carol and I don't know how to make a few
things happen.
Here are my questions:
Soprano and alto must use an independant time signature at various times
during the music. The carol is written in 3/4 time, but the soprano and
alto are in 2/4.
Lawrence David Eden wrote:
Greetings Listers,
I am try to transcribe the Zither Carol and I don't know how to make a few
things happen.
Here are my questions:
Soprano and alto must use an independant time signature at various times
during the music. The carol is written in 3/4 time, but the
Lawrence David Eden wrote:
Greetings Listers,
I am try to transcribe the Zither Carol and I don't know how to make a few
things happen.
Here are my questions:
Soprano and alto must use an independant time signature at various times
during the music. The carol is written in 3/4 time, but the
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