Re: anachronisms (was spam [Finale] very TAN

2007-02-19 Thread Ken Moore
John Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So the complaint seems to be not that the songs are '70s songs, because they can't help being. It's that they supposedly don't SOUND like '50s songs, and there I'll certainly agree, although anybody who didn't live through the era has a very skewed idea

Re: anachronisms (was spam [Finale] very TAN

2007-02-19 Thread John Howell
At 8:55 AM -0800 2/19/07, Mark D Lew wrote: If filtering the 1950s setting through a 1970s sensibility is a purpose of the film, it's only a post-hoc attempt to make virtue of necessity, sort of like turning Olivia Newton-John's character into an Australian exchange student as a way to explain

Re: anachronisms (was spam [Finale] very TAN

2007-02-19 Thread John Howell
At 5:49 PM + 2/19/07, Ken Moore wrote: John Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So the complaint seems to be not that the songs are '70s songs, because they can't help being. It's that they supposedly don't SOUND like '50s songs, and there I'll certainly agree, although anybody who didn't

RE: anachronisms (was spam [Finale] very TAN

2007-02-19 Thread keith helgesen
) 62910787. Mob 0417-042171 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Howell Sent: Tuesday, 20 February 2007 6:17 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: anachronisms (was spam [Finale] very TAN At 8:55 AM -0800 2/19/07, Mark D Lew wrote: If filtering

Re: anachronisms (was spam [Finale] very TAN (was: musical note values in OZ?))

2007-02-18 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 17, 2007, at 11:21 AM, John Howell wrote: Just started watching the movie Marie Antoinette. The illustration of wallpaper music constantly playing in the background is quite telling, but the rock parts of the score strike me as so totally anachronistic that they really turn me off.

Re: anachronisms (was spam [Finale] very TAN

2007-02-18 Thread dhbailey
Mark D Lew wrote: On Feb 17, 2007, at 11:21 AM, John Howell wrote: Just started watching the movie Marie Antoinette. The illustration of wallpaper music constantly playing in the background is quite telling, but the rock parts of the score strike me as so totally anachronistic that they

Re: anachronisms (was spam [Finale] very TAN

2007-02-18 Thread Darcy James Argue
Um, all of them? Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 18 Feb 2007, at 7:14 AM, dhbailey wrote: Which 70s songs are sung in Grease? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: anachronisms (was spam [Finale] very TAN

2007-02-18 Thread dhbailey
Darcy James Argue wrote: Um, all of them? Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 18 Feb 2007, at 7:14 AM, dhbailey wrote: Which 70s songs are sung in Grease? If by that you mean that all the original songs in Grease were written in the 70s and therefore are 70s songs,

Re: anachronisms (was spam [Finale] very TAN

2007-02-18 Thread Darcy James Argue
I wrote: The songs in Grease are all anachronistic -- some more obviously than others (i.e., the disco beat in the title song), but even in those songs that are meant to evoke 1950's rock and roll, none of them would fool anyone who's even passingly familiar with the pop music of the era

Re: anachronisms (was spam [Finale] very TAN

2007-02-18 Thread Darcy James Argue
The songs in Grease are all anachronistic -- some more obviously than others (i.e., the disco beat in the title song), but even in those songs that are meant to evoke 1950's rock and roll, none of them would fool anyone who's even passingly familiar with the pop music of the era into

Re: anachronisms (was spam [Finale] very TAN

2007-02-18 Thread John Howell
At 8:07 AM -0500 2/18/07, Darcy James Argue wrote: The songs in Grease are all anachronistic -- some more obviously than others (i.e., the disco beat in the title song), but even in those songs that are meant to evoke 1950's rock and roll, none of them would fool anyone who's even passingly

Re: anachronisms (was spam [Finale] very TAN

2007-02-18 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 18, 2007, at 4:38 AM, dhbailey wrote: I was under the impression that the complaint had to do with pop songs not originally written for the musical Grease which were widely known in the 70s which were included in the musical for effect, and that no pop songs not originally written

Re: anachronisms (was spam [Finale] very TAN

2007-02-18 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 18, 2007, at 10:23 AM, John Howell wrote: Version 1.0 opened in Chicago in 1971. A very revised version opened off Broadway in February 1972, and moved onto B'way in June 1972, remaining in production for 3,388 performances before closing in April, 1980. It is being revived as we

Re: anachronisms (was spam [Finale] very TAN

2007-02-18 Thread Darcy James Argue
Lew wrote: Some more obviously than others is a huge understatement. The Bee Gees disco of the title song is horridly anachronistic. Well, yes, but it's very clearly *supposed* to be that way. The film *wants* to draw your attention to the anachronism of Frankie Valli singing over a