, and print these files?
Thanks!
- Patrick Sheehan
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In regarding e-mailing Finale files, I have one rule: I don't.
For your own protection and safety, never e-mail them, no matter how
computer savvy or non-savvy the composer or client is. There are many
pitfalls as to what can happen to your documents after they've been e-mailed
to the next
I'm pretty verse in Finale '06, but there are a few things I still cannot
figure out:
I am extracting parts for a jazz chart, and when I plant a 1st and 2nd ending
with a repeat, the rests do not come out correctly when I extract the parts.
For example, in a trombone part, it has four bars of
Another question, everyone:
After extracting parts from a jazz chart, there are woodwind changes, where I
need to change the key signature and transpose the written notes with regard to
what instrument the player needs (saxophone, clarinet, flute, or etc.). Anyone
know how to change the key
Including the current version, I have worked with (and still have pieces) in
Finale 2002b, 2006a, and now 2007. I need to know how to properly convert all
of my previous (2002b, 2006) works into 2007, and have them play back with the
Human Playback (every instrument on one channel,
, ...and all other sorts of
extensions. Any help? Thanks.
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I'm having trouble in Finale 2007 to get the part names on the parts when
they're extracted. Right now, everything is coming out to what I've edited it
to: Full Score in C, and I have to manually change each one; shouldn't have
to do that? Help!
Patrick J. M. Sheehan
Woodlawn Arts Academy
Either way has worked for me. I was a pencil-paper-ruler man for many
years, and could always look at a section of score and hear it with my
mind's eye...remember that, Dr. Deemer? It is beneficial, though, as Mr.
Eden says, to have Finale playback your theories. A brother of mine uses
it as
I'm working with an organ score that needs to have many text boxes for
instructions, etc. When I print out the score (no part extraction needed), I
want the boxes to be exactly where they are in the score layout, not offset
somewhere else; this has happened when I've used Text Blocks in the
I agree with you, David. When I orchestrate or arrange, and want a specific
sound from an instrument family, I'll have no qualms about using an alto
clarinet (non-doubled) or a couple flugelhorns, or whatever. I mandate that
the ensemble find the instrument or don't play the piece; I'm that
Agree with you, John! Every part is independent!
- Original Message -
From: John Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: finale@shsu.edu
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Finale] Turn-of-the-century Band Music
At 2:40 PM -0400 8/25/07, Andrew Stiller wrote:
On Aug 24,
In Windows Finale 2007, is there a way to put a fermata in an empty bar, and
also a cessura in an empty bar (to match the other vertical bars in a score)?
Patrick J. M. Sheehan
Woodlawn Arts Academy
Music Director Secretary -- Sauk Valley Productions
PS Music
Host, The Saturday Night Blues:
I'd say:
Violincello (it's own independent line and in it's own family)
Piano (obvious)
Percussion (more busy and I'm guessing multiple instruments...always looks
better at the bottom)
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From: Lee Actor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: finale@shsu.edu
Sent: Saturday,
It's true that it's played on a piccolo in the traditional pit orchestras of
today; I conducted it a few years ago and had my flutist put on her
picclist hat for those moments.
I don't argue that a soprano recorder should be used, but it may not carry
if your orchestra is (as it should be) IN
Does anyone know how to insert (and where to find) the cessura markings for
scores that have a small number of staves per system? Say I'm working with a
chamber score setup, and I'll have two full systems on each page, I'd like to
insert a visible, thick cessura-like marking into the middle of
I'm on Windows 2000 XP and just upgraded to Finale Windows '08.
I installed the Garritan sounds, and absolutely love them; MUCH better than a
general midi sound card. Does anyone know if I can open up my earlier projects
in '02, '05, '06, and '07 and convert them to use those Garritan sounds
Just got Finale '08 for Windows XP, and I'm creating my first jazz chart in
this version -- and I'm not getting the swing playback. Any help? Please give
me any tips about playback controls, human playback, etc...have no idea why
this isn't working...is this a bug with '08? Grrr.
Patrick J.
I agree -- it's a Finale list. We all use it for specific reasons, so let's
leave the Sibelius topics out of it. Is there a Sibelius user list server?
Find that.
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From: Dean M. Estabrook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: finale@shsu.edu
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 4:35
What does a copyist do?
Being a professional copyist, having done work for James Galway and wind
composer Roger Cichy, I've never had to edit anything that they have given
me, as I have just reset editions that have been given to me.
However, there are time when I have worked with other
Was there digests sent on June 8th and today, June 9th?
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Personally, I absolutely hate the 8va and 8vb markings (I still see the 8vb
quite a bit in piano music). I prefer to space out the score / staves and
write it in it's true octave, as my eye's ear hears the pitches in the
octave where they're supposed to be, not an octave above it with an 8vb
When I open up a work I've completed in a previous version, e.g. WinFin '06 or
WinFin '07, the midi sounds are different, and are not the same as '08 --
mixer, Garritan, everything. I tried saving the older version as an '08
version before closing and this didn't do any help. So, help!
] inserting .gif's
At 10:17 AM 7/3/2008, Patrick Sheehan wrote:
On Windows Finale '08, is there a way to insert a .gif file at the
bottom of a score, within margins? In other words, inserting an
image file from your computer, such as a scanned signature?
Not a GIF, but you can insert a TIF or EPS
I am trying to finish a jazz chart, but am having major problems in making a
condensed score.
The full score is already finished, and I am making a condensed score at the
music director's request. This particular chart is a clarinet solo feature (a
la Pete Fountain), and therefore the solo
Hi David and Don,
I thought of both of your suggestions while I was enduring this problem, as
in, copying the full score file and taking out what I needed. I do my
condensed score (although I despise them) with the solo line, saxs,
trumpets, trombones, and rhythm, equaling a 5-staff system,
Anyone see any features worth working with in '09? How many of you will stay
with '08? Let the discussion begin!
Patrick J. M. Sheehan
Woodlawn Arts Academy, Instructor, Music Director
Centennial Auditorium, Music Director Conductor
P.S. Music
Host, The Saturday Night Blues: 89.5
I have a brother that plays in a prestigious big band, and I have recently been
hired as the copyist for this particular band.
I had done non-contracted copy work for them before, and need to clear up some
notation issues with the experts, because we argue. I'm not extensive in jazz,
but I
I'm with Darcy -- Staples and Kinko's ARE awful -- they only appear to be
professional and make good products.
I brought a large orchestral score to Staples to have it enlarged and spiral
bound, and the man put it together b-a-c-k-w-a-r-d-s, and GAVE it to me that
way. Open up the cover, and
. How do
I fix this in order to get the program running again? Of course, this is
extremely urgent. HELP!!!
Patrick Sheehan
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Wow, look at the argument. tsk tsk tsk
Be a lot shorter if Danneblitz was merely deleted off of the list,
...because this sort of behavior has been exhibited before, sadly.
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From: Eric Dannewitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008
I would also write it out, note for note.
Depending on what's around it, the gliss. might be able to only go so far
because of what's around it / what's coming on the next beat / can the
pianist's hand shift that quickly to the next register...
that glisses that start on white notes are played as white note glisses,
and glisses that start on black notes are played as black note glisses.
Cheers,
- Darcy
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On 30 Nov 2008, at 10:21 AM, Patrick Sheehan wrote:
I would also write it out, note for note
Stu's suggestion is good; I agree.
Also, whatever notes (in whatever clef) end up being those that are on
multiple ledger lines, just put them there. If a pianist has to stop and
think and figure out what those notes are (low D's, C's, B's in treble clef,
etc.), that's what's done.
Rental parts are nothing but a means to make life difficult for any
conductor who wishes to use them.
This is exactly why I don't publish my works; dealing with publishers and
editors and even rentals is something I do not want to be a part of...ever.
If people want to buy my works, they simply
Does anyone know of a way to notate the use of a wah-wah pedal for an
electric guitar ---and is there a Garritan sound that I can load to play
back the effect? I'm looking for the Three's Company kind of sound; real
70's -ish.
Patrick J. M. Sheehan
patricksheehanmu...@gmail.com
I just purchased a wide 22 HP monitor to use to view Finale projects on
the big screen. It works wonderfully, however, whenever I try to use
my mouse's right click button for certain functions (Selector tool select,
delete measure stack, transpose, etc.), the right click menu won't
come up
Ryan, better to have two separate parts, just like Violin I Violin II.
The less to look at and process, the better.
Patrick J. M. Sheehan
Music Director, Instructor: Woodlawn Arts Academy
P. S. Music
Host: The Saturday Night Blues on 89.5 WNIJ-FM, 9pm - 12am (CST)
WNIJ.org
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I am using Finale 2008 on an HP with Windows XP:
There are few random times when I play back a file, the processing bar
window will come up and when it hits 79%, it's processing hairpins, gets
stuck there, and never ends up playing. I have to close the program on a
hard close; in essence, it
Da Capos and D.S.'s should be outlawed. Why not just write it out again?
Less confusion, I say.
Patrick J. M. Sheehan
Music Director, Instructor: Woodlawn Arts Academy
P. S. Music
Host: The Saturday Night Blues on 89.5 WNIJ-FM, 9pm - 12am (CST)
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1-815-285-4401 (f)
It also depends on what register it's in...but overall it should be somewhat
feasible.
Patrick J. M. Sheehan
Music Director, Instructor: Woodlawn Arts Academy
P. S. Music
Host: The Saturday Night Blues on 89.5 WNIJ-FM, 9pm - 12am (CST)
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? And, if they're not used, WHY? How did
that tradition come about? Thanks.
Patrick Sheehan
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I have owned a MusicPad Pro for a couple years now and it is a true
lifesaver. Being a pianist and a pit musical director, it makes page
turning a breeze. If you use .tiff files, it takes up less memory and the
resolution of the image is a lot clearer than a PDF. I have used it for
instrumental
Working with a C score is like none other. Transposed scores screw up my
eye's ear. I always work in C scores. I suggest you give it a try. This
way you can see exactly where each instrumental line is being played in real
pitch.
Patrick J. M. Sheehan
Music Director, Instructor: Woodlawn Arts
A C Score, with this part in bass clef, would not pose a problem.
Patrick J. M. Sheehan
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From: Robert Patterson [mailto:rob...@robertgpatterson.com]
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011
Yeah, ditch the confusing repeat and just write it out again since it's only
5 bars.
Patrick J. M. Sheehan
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From: Richard Huggins [mailto:huggin...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 11:04 AM
To: Finale
Subject: [Finale] Playing stave
There's only one answer:
Without question, use a key signature, no matter how heavily-sharped or
flatted.
If players don't learn to APPLY a key signature, then the purpose of a key
signature is out the window.
Practice your scales.
Patrick J. M. Sheehan
Music Director, Instructor: Woodlawn Arts
To All Choirmasters out there:
Part of my work for the past 10+ years has been accompanying for high school
choirs, where at times we will perform a mix classic and new serious
literature as well as some of the popular alternative choices that are in
the catalogs today.
What bothers me in
Thank you all for the historical practices and experience on what you've
used and seen.
To clarify, I do not have a problem in reading the Treble8 clef for tenors,
I simply find it impractical.
News flash: We all have to deal with reading multiple ledger lines
(pianists, flutists, violinists).
Oh, how I hate repeat figure slashes.
Write the damn chord out again -- it won't hurt.
Patrick J. M. Sheehan
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From: Pierre Bailleul [mailto:pierrebaill...@free.fr]
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 5:13 AM
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re:
I'd rather depend on my own knowledge...
Patrick J. M. Sheehan
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From: Craig Parmerlee [mailto:cr...@acticalc.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 10:43 PM
To: Finale News List
Subject: [Finale] 1012B: Controlling automatic range detection
Who needs courtesy accidentals? Such a crutch. Forget it!
Patrick J. M. Sheehan
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P. S. Music
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From:
What I usually tell myself (always), and other people who are going to
listen to it:
Finale playback is only a guide -- a luxury, if you will -- before it's
played for real.
You have to use your eye's ear to IMAGINE how it's going to sound in a
real performance setting.
But if you can't do
In the same vein for hearing things in your head, EVERY SCORE in this world
should be a C-Score. EVERY. SCORE.
Patrick J. M. Sheehan
Music Director, Instructor: Woodlawn Arts Academy
P. S. Music
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Well, if we just copy-and-pasted and not have to worry about D. S.'s and D.
C.'s and D. Q.'s and Fine's and Codas and signs here and signs here and
there, we wouldn't have to worry about using these things.
Using D.C.'s and roadmap signs are confusing to the player. We should be
able to read
Courtesy accidentals (ANYWHERE) are for the weak. If you *need* them in the
part, then that means you're not following the key signature. Back to
school!
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From: Christopher Smith [mailto:christopher.sm...@videotron.ca]
Sent: Sunday,
...and that's why we should always avoid repeats. Roadmaps suck. Written
out beginning to end poses no problems (!)
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From: Craig Parmerlee [mailto:cr...@acticalc.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 10:57 PM
To: Finale News List
Let's hope so! Cautionary (and courtesy) accidentals are for the weak!
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finale-requ...@shsu.edu
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 12:00 PM
To: finale@shsu.edu
COMPLETELY disagree.
PUT the dots for all staccato notes and NEVER use the cresc,
decresc...they are always easily missed / immediately forgotten. Hairpins
never fail.
Patrick J. M. Sheehan
P. S. Music
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-Original Message-
From: Christopher Smith
6/4. Don't change the denominators. Keep the denominator consistent as
the pulse stays consistent.
Patrick J. M. Sheehan
P. S. Music
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From: Lee Dengler [mailto:leedeng...@comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 1:10 PM
To:
David, think practically when you are assembling your score order.
Different publishers do different things, and there is no standard. Again,
think practically!! To answer your questions:
1. Place instrument lines in "families". *It does not matter if bassoons
are a bass voice*; NEVER put
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