Thanks Christopher…
I am on 2012, so dead-easy it is. I've started on the project and so far
(knock-wood) it's going very smoothly. As with anything there are quirks to
adjust to, but once I adjusted, Change Instrument has been just what I needed.
Neal Gittleman
On May 21, 2012, at 4:26
If you are on 2012, it is dead easy. Click the first measure where
you want the new instrument to appear, or else select a range of
measures, then select Change Instrument from the menu. Playback and
the score staff name will be correct too, if you started with the
Setup Wizard.
There are
On 5/21/2012 2:55 PM, Neal Gittleman wrote:
Greetings…
Soon I'll be embarking on a Finale project that will involve several
doubling parts (Flute/Piccolo, Oboe/English Horn, Clarinet/Bass
Clarinet). I'd appreciate any suggestions people have about most
efficient procedures of how to do
Mariposa Symphony Orchestra wrote:
Wow! I thought I was the only one who knew that movie!
And just FWIW: it wasn't a balloon. It was anothersimilar.latex item.
Does anybody remember the subtitle to that movie? This is a
quiz -- I do remember what it is.
--
David H. Bailey
What is--The Decline of the West in C# Major ?
Bob Morabito
On Jul 8, 2010, at 7:18 AM, dhbailey wrote:
Mariposa Symphony Orchestra wrote:
Wow! I thought I was the only one who knew that movie!
And just FWIW: it wasn't a balloon. It was
anothersimilar.latex item.
Does anybody
I think not -- could be my bad memory, but I recall it as being:
The decline and fall of western civilization in C# minor.
I just tried to find it, but after getting lots of hits with
commentary about the movie, I could find nothing referring
to this subtitle.
Oh well -- I certainly enjoyed
Sorry David, but your wrong on this..we'll chalk it up to your bad
memory, and even WORSE Googling.:):)
Heres a bunch on it
http://www.google.com/search?hl=ensafe=offclient=firefox-
ahs=mLtrls=org.mozilla:en-
US:officialsa=Xei=kek1TK6mE8SqlAe2oNXSBwved=0CBIQvwUoAQq=the
My bad, on both counts. Thanks for the links.
David
Bob Morabito wrote:
Sorry David, but your wrong on this..we'll chalk it up to your bad
memory, and even WORSE Googling.:):)
Heres a bunch on it
...not to mention the CanadiEns, on and off the ice!
Aaron J. Rabushka
arabus...@austin.rr.com
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From: Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.ca
To: finale@shsu.edu
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Finale] Doubling part label
On Tue Jul
Cor anglais is stuck up? I thought it was simply British, for
people who know that the English horn is neither English nor a horn.
French, actually. French for English horn, which is apparently
where the term came from.
Actually it was originally: angelic horn, as in horn of the angels.
/
At the moment I'm editing a cantata by Telemann written for a funeral in 1722
which calls for one oboa d'amore, which sent me running to Johann Gottfried
Walther, who writes (Musicalisches Lexikon, 1732) that the oboe d'amore
appeared around 1720. He continues it resembles the oboe in almost
Angelic horn? you mean a sackbut?
Aaron J. Rabushka
arabus...@austin.rr.com
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From: ch...@directionsinmusic.com
To: finale@shsu.edu
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 2:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Finale] Doubling part label
Cor anglais is stuck up? I thought it was simply
At 8:56 PM -0700 7/6/10, dershem wrote:
But a warning is always welcome. I do the same with mute changes,
using get plunger ready and the like. With software, it's easy to
do, and there's really no reason not to.
Absolutely. Case in point: we're in rehearsal for our annual summer
At 12:09 AM -0400 7/7/10, Christopher Smith wrote:
Roemer agrees with John Blane (and with me!) that the key signature
change should occur in the first measure containing notes on the new
instrument. The change itself (in English) is indicated well in
advance, but the key only changes with
On Wed Jul 7, at WednesdayJul 7 1:11 PM, John Howell wrote:
Absolutely. Case in point: we're in rehearsal for our annual
summer musical (The Pajama Game, 1954), and the string books are
filled with pizz., arco, con sordino, and senza sordino markings
that ARE NOT CANCELLED! We're
At 12:58 AM -0400 7/7/10, Christopher Smith wrote:
And most anglophone Canadians who speak French too are not stuck up,
they are just trying to get along with their fellow citizens. Some
might take exception to your position.
And they would be quite correct to, so my apologies in advance.
On Wed Jul 7, at WednesdayJul 7 1:29 PM, John Howell wrote:
Of course the guy who managed my quartet for a while grew up in
Canada and was fluent in French (his father was a famous chef on
the Canadian-Pacific Railroad), and he acted as a liaison with the
French military right after WW
At 4:06 AM -0500 7/7/10, Aaron Rabushka wrote:
Angelic horn? you mean a sackbut?
Well, in the King James translation, Gabriel plays the trumpet, but
in the Luther translation he plays the Posaune. Different unions,
I guess!
Of course the Italian trombone does mean a big trumpet. (The
I also recall a lot of paintings where the angels are playing
sackbuts/trombones in heavenly settings. As you used to say to me and Bill
Taggart, John, you guys belong to a good union!
Anyone see Fellini's Orchestra Rehearsal movie? Where the trombonist carries
on about his instrument being
At 1:26 PM -0400 7/7/10, Christopher Smith wrote:
On Wed Jul 7, at WednesdayJul 7 1:11 PM, John Howell wrote:
Absolutely. Case in point: we're in rehearsal for our annual
summer musical (The Pajama Game, 1954), and the string books are
filled with pizz., arco, con sordino, and senza
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From: arabus...@austin.rr.com
To: finale@shsu.edu
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Finale] Doubling part label
I also recall a lot of paintings where the angels are playing
sackbuts/trombones in heavenly settings. As you used to say to me and Bill
On 7/7/2010 10:11 AM, John Howell wrote:
At 8:56 PM -0700 7/6/10, dershem wrote:
But a warning is always welcome. I do the same with mute changes,
using get plunger ready and the like. With software, it's easy to
do, and there's really no reason not to.
Absolutely. Case in point: we're in
At 5:48 PM -0700 7/7/10, dershem wrote:
The local light opera company is doing Pajama Game this summer.
Apparently it's a popular show right now. :)
Alas, I'm not on the contractor's short list, and won't be in the pit. :(
You'd be welcome in my pit anytime, but unfortunately we're a
On 7/7/2010 6:29 PM, John Howell wrote:
At 5:48 PM -0700 7/7/10, dershem wrote:
The local light opera company is doing Pajama Game this summer.
Apparently it's a popular show right now. :)
Alas, I'm not on the contractor's short list, and won't be in the pit. :(
You'd be welcome in my pit
when the
key-signatures only occur at the top of the page.
Guy Hayden
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From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
dershem
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 8:49 PM
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] Doubling part label
On 7/7/2010 10
At 9:36 PM -0400 7/7/10, Guy Hayden wrote:
I think PG is from a period when the
key-signatures only occur at the top of the page.
It sure is, and it drives me nuts. Especially with constant key changes.
I just checked my book. The exit music is actually in C major, but
the Fashion Parade
Because of the PDF issue, I now use a vertical separation line instead of a
slash. And for multi-wind parts, I usually label first the part name, and then
the instruments used (in the order that they are used), e.g.:
WIND 1
Alto Flute|Flute|Soprano Sax
or, for your example...
FLUTE 3
Ryan ... thanks for the info I'm still confused about (BTW, I am
using key sigs) changing key sigs in the middle of the stream for one
part only in the score. Does Staff Style allow me to go back and
forth between the oboe and E.H. at will, for a given number of
measures, without
On 2010-07-06, at 2:22 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Because of the PDF issue, I now use a vertical separation line instead of a
slash. And for multi-wind parts, I usually label first the part name, and
then the instruments used (in the order that they are used), e.g.:
WIND 1
Alto
Dean,
Yes, Staff styles will let you change anything on that staff for the amount
of measures you select. Christopher Smith is right, Staff Styles is pretty
amazing. Make a copy of your file and just mess around with it for a bit.
You'll quickly learn what it can do.
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 9:51
Dean, you are SO going to love Staff Styles! Yes to everything. Read
the manual, learn it, love it, live it.
DON'T change key sigs, change the transposition with a staff style.
Christopher
On Tue Jul 6, at TuesdayJul 6 12:35 PM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
Ryan ... thanks for the info
At 9:10 PM -0700 7/5/10, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
While we're at it ... I'm writing an orchestral piece that uses both
Oboe and English Horn, played by the same person. How are those
parts labeled, and how is the transposition for the E.H. handled in
score and part(s), if you know what I mean?
Good news for me I shall investigate and apply ...
Thanks,
Dean
On Jul 6, 2010, at 9:51 AM, Christopher Smith wrote:
Dean, you are SO going to love Staff Styles! Yes to everything.
Read the manual, learn it, love it, live it.
DON'T change key sigs, change the transposition with a
Thanks guys this list is, and I don't use this appellation
often, AWSOME!
Off to work
Dean
On Jul 6, 2010, at 10:23 AM, Ryan wrote:
Dean,
Yes, Staff styles will let you change anything on that staff for
the amount
of measures you select. Christopher Smith is right, Staff Styles
Yeah, good idea ... I tend to work with a score in concert pitch, but
switch to transposed when I print it ... but rarely do I work with
the C score as we used to call it in my 12 tone days if that
makes sense to you ...
Dean
On Jul 6, 2010, at 11:24 AM, John Howell wrote:
At 9:10
Cor anglais is stuck up? I thought it was simply British, for people who know
that the English horn is neither English nor a horn.
Aaron J. Rabushka
who would most likely write oboe/corno inglese
John Howell john.how...@vt.edu wrote:
At 9:10 PM -0700 7/5/10, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
At 7:04 PM -0400 7/6/10, arabus...@austin.rr.com wrote:
Cor anglais is stuck up? I thought it was simply British, for
people who know that the English horn is neither English nor a horn.
French, actually. French for English horn, which is apparently
where the term came from. Which, as you
Well, in my usual pedestrian mannr, I went with English Horn, and
even got the Staff Style tool to do my bidding, after several tries
of course.
Dean
On Jul 6, 2010, at 5:10 PM, John Howell wrote:
At 7:04 PM -0400 7/6/10, arabus...@austin.rr.com wrote:
Cor anglais is stuck up? I thought
Yes, French indeed, a near-sound-alike for cor anglé a reference to the angle
between the reed and the rest of the instrument. My two major references for
its usage be Brits come from H. C. Robbins Landon's notes to Haydn's Symphony
22, and to Antony Hopkins's repeated use in the old BBC Music
I believe that common practice is to not show the key sig change until
the spot where the new instrument actually enters.
On Jul 5, 2010, at 11:48 PM, Ryan wrote:
At the end of the Oboe passage, I would put to English Horn. If
you're
using key signatures, I would personally prefer to see
At 8:43 PM -0400 7/6/10, arabus...@austin.rr.com wrote:
Yes, French indeed, a near-sound-alike for cor
anglé a reference to the angle between the reed
and the rest of the instrument.
I don't think that etymology has been pinned
down, but it certainly is suggestive. Actually,
if the term
At 8:57 PM -0500 7/6/10, John Blane wrote:
I believe that common practice is to not show the key sig change
until the spot where the new instrument actually enters.
I'm not sure whether it is or not, but when I suggested putting it
earlier, when the instrument change instruction is given, it
On 7/6/2010 8:42 PM, John Howell wrote:
At 8:57 PM -0500 7/6/10, John Blane wrote:
I believe that common practice is to not show the key sig change until
the spot where the new instrument actually enters.
I'm not sure whether it is or not, but when I suggested putting it
earlier, when the
On Tue Jul 6, at TuesdayJul 6 11:36 PM, John Howell wrote:
The name is sometimes said to derive from its original
resemblance to the oboe da caccia, which tended to be either bent
or curved in shape and was thus supposedly called a cor anglé`
(bent horn), a name later corrupted to cor
On Tue Jul 6, at TuesdayJul 6 11:42 PM, John Howell wrote:
At 8:57 PM -0500 7/6/10, John Blane wrote:
I believe that common practice is to not show the key sig change
until the spot where the new instrument actually enters.
I'm not sure whether it is or not, but when I suggested putting it
On Tue Jul 6, at TuesdayJul 6 11:36 PM, John Howell wrote:
(For whatever it's worth, I also consider pseudo-French spellings
of words like centre and theatre to be stuck up, adopted in England
to show that people had studied French!)
The theatre spelling, which apart from being standard
On 7/5/2010 4:14 PM, Ryan wrote:
What's the best way to label a woodwind part that doubles?
Piccolo 3rd Flute
or
Piccolo/3rd Flute
or
Piccolo (also 3rd Flute)
Does the top one imply that two players are needed? Does the middle one
imply that one of the instruments is optional? (i.e. If you
At 4:14 PM -0700 7/5/10, Ryan wrote:
What's the best way to label a woodwind part that doubles?
Piccolo 3rd Flute
or
Piccolo/3rd Flute
or
Piccolo (also 3rd Flute)
Does the top one imply that two players are needed? Does the middle one
imply that one of the instruments is optional? (i.e. If
On Mon Jul 5, at MondayJul 5 7:14 PM, Ryan wrote:
What's the best way to label a woodwind part that doubles?
Piccolo 3rd Flute
or
Piccolo/3rd Flute
or
Piccolo (also 3rd Flute)
Does the top one imply that two players are needed? Does the middle
one
imply that one of the instruments is
While we're at it ... I'm writing an orchestral piece that uses both
Oboe and English Horn, played by the same person. How are those parts
labeled, and how is the transposition for the E.H. handled in score
and part(s), if you know what I mean?
Dean
On Jul 5, 2010, at 6:58 PM, John Howell
On Jul 5, 2010, at 6:58 PM, John Howell wrote:
At 4:14 PM -0700 7/5/10, Ryan wrote:
What's the best way to label a woodwind part that doubles?
Piccolo 3rd Flute
or
Piccolo/3rd Flute
or
Piccolo (also 3rd Flute)
Does the top one imply that two players are needed? Does the
middle one
imply
At the end of the Oboe passage, I would put to English Horn. If you're
using key signatures, I would personally prefer to see the key change right
there, as well as staff name change in the score. I do this with a Staff
Style. At the beginning of the English Horn passage, I would put English
Horn.
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