Re: [Fink-devel] find . -ls gets zero sizes!

2004-01-25 Thread Michèle Garoche
Le 23 janv. 2004, à 1:49, Pascal J.Bourguignon a écrit : find . -name mbox -ls 66892600 -rw--- 1 pascal staff 0 Jan 23 01:45 ./.mbox/mbox 66883790 -rw--- 1 pascal staff 0 Jan 14 10:36 ./Deleted\ Messages.mbox/mbox From the find manpage: -ls

[Fink-devel] CFD: Installing Frameworks from fink packages

2004-01-25 Thread Matthias Neeracher
Hi all, I'm thinking of creating a fink package for RubyCocoa (http://rubycocoa.sourceforge.net), a cocoa wrapper package for ruby, similar to what CamelBones does for Perl. It seems an appropriate subject for packaging to me because it: - Will depend on another fink package (ruby18) and no

Re: [Fink-devel] CFD: Installing Frameworks from fink packages

2004-01-25 Thread Martin Costabel
Matthias Neeracher wrote: - Do y'all agree that frameworks are, in principle, fink packageable matter? - Where should frameworks be installed? /sw/lib/Frameworks ? /sw/lib/frameworks ? /sw/Frameworks? /sw/frameworks? /sw/lib/sw? My vote goes for a new directory /sw/Library and

Re: [Fink-devel] find . -ls gets zero sizes!

2004-01-25 Thread Martin Costabel
Michèle Garoche wrote: Le 23 janv. 2004, à 1:49, Pascal J.Bourguignon a écrit : find . -name mbox -ls 66892600 -rw--- 1 pascal staff 0 Jan 23 01:45 ./.mbox/mbox 66883790 -rw--- 1 pascal staff 0 Jan 14 10:36 ./Deleted\ Messages.mbox/mbox From

[Fink-devel] Questions about .info file

2004-01-25 Thread Pierre Mazoyer
Thank you to all the people who answered me about creating a .patch file. I would enjoy to help the community by porting some software; but now I am still learning ;-) The software I am trying to port is bsvc (a Motorola 68000 simulator assembler). I managed to patch and compile it and I

[Fink-devel] splitoff question

2004-01-25 Thread Koen van der Drift
Hi, When creating a splitoff package, am I limited to foo-dev, foo-shlibs, and foo-bin? Or can I create other ones as well (in my case it would be called foo-scripting). Or would it be better to just create a separate package for that, that depends on foo? thanks, - Koen.

Re: [Fink-devel] bootstrap process

2004-01-25 Thread Likai Liu
Unfortunately Solaris' mv is too brain dead such that it won't work unless I use another mv. Actually, more fiddling reveals that fink probably needs to be rewritten to port to another platform at all (and I'm not going to advocate this, at least not on fink's own mailing list :-] ). There is

Re: [Fink-devel] find . -ls gets zero sizes!

2004-01-25 Thread Pascal J . Bourguignon
Randal L. Schwartz writes: some of them are not 0. I suspect the ones that are 0 really are 0. Yes, the ones that are 0 in ls are really 0. But even the ones that are not 0 in ls are 0 in find -ls, that's the problem. (Of course, you are aware that these files are stored on a HFS+ file

Re: [Fink-devel] CFD: Installing Frameworks from fink packages

2004-01-25 Thread David R. Morrison
Matthias Neeracher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] However, the package installs a framework, for which I think we don't currently have a precedent. So my questions are: - Do y'all agree that frameworks are, in principle, fink packageable matter? - Where should frameworks be installed?

.app's in Fink (was Re: [Fink-devel] CFD: Installing Frameworks from fink packages)

2004-01-25 Thread David R. Morrison
Martin Costabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we will have to restart the old discussion of /sw/Applications, too. And I mean a real discussion, not the hasty erection of religious taboos as we had in the past. I would really love to see things like Tcl/Tk-aqua and rangerrick's

Re: .app's in Fink (was Re: [Fink-devel] CFD: Installing Frameworks from fink packages)

2004-01-25 Thread Ben Hines
On Jan 25, 2004, at 4:59 PM, David R. Morrison wrote: OK, I suppose this is going to be controversial. Any discussion? Fine by me, as long as we stick to open source applications ONLY. The objection about 'moving apps around' never did make sense to me, i think a more important objection

.app's in Fink (was Re: [Fink-devel] CFD: Installing Frameworks from fink packages)

2004-01-25 Thread David R. Morrison
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Jan 25 04:24:05 2004 From: Martin Costabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Neeracher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

Re: [Fink-devel] CFD: Installing Frameworks from fink packages

2004-01-25 Thread Benjamin Reed
David R. Morrison wrote: I agree with Martin: if we need to extend the FHS, we should do it in parallel to the way Apple did it. So we should use /sw/Library/Frameworks or /sw/System/Library/Frameworks, probably the former. (I don't understand the distinction between /System/Library/Frameworks

Re: [Fink-devel] Questions about .info file

2004-01-25 Thread James Gibbs
On Jan 25, 2004, at 10:33 AM, Pierre Mazoyer wrote: The software I am trying to port is bsvc (a Motorola 68000 simulator assembler). I managed to patch and compile it and I have also started to write .info and .patch files. Another question is about documentation. Is DocFiles: sufficient to

[Fink-devel] Re: can't self-update right now?

2004-01-25 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Randal == Randal L Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Randal And it's a different number after .VERSION every time. Ahh, the problem seemed to be that /sw/fink was owned by root, not merlyn. Not sure how it got that way, but what an odd way to tell me. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge

[Fink-devel] gnuplot history -- doesn't detect readline

2004-01-25 Thread Joe Corneli
gnuplot history warning: history command requires some form of readline support fink list readline Information about 2434 packages read in 2 seconds. i readline 4.3-25 Comfortable terminal input library i readline-shlibs4.3-25 Comfortable

Re: [Fink-devel] find . -ls gets zero sizes!

2004-01-25 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
Hi, I'm the findutils maintainer. 'find -ls' (and in fact most of the size-related bits of find) is broken in older versions of findutils. Newer versions, including 4.1.20 in unstable, work fine for me. I'm seeing exactly the same output from '/usr/bin/find . -ls' and '/sw/bin/find . -ls'. If

Re: [Fink-devel] Incompatible .info files

2004-01-25 Thread Peter O'Gorman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Macks wrote: | In implementing variants, I'm doing some percent expansions on Package | using %things that may not be known to previous fink. That means (I | think) that if a user selfupdates while running an older fink and | there are

Re: .app's in Fink (was Re: [Fink-devel] CFD: Installing Frameworks from fink packages)

2004-01-25 Thread D. Hhn
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 David R. Morrison wrote: | Martin Costabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | |I think we will have to restart the old discussion of /sw/Applications, |too. And I mean a real discussion, not the hasty erection of religious |taboos as we had in the past.