Re: [Fink-devel] Adding bit-torrent to download options for fink, yes/no? Vote, comment. Thank you

2008-08-13 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
Yeah, it definitely requires infrastructure work. Debian has done some work on torrents-for-apt, which would presumably be extensible to torrents-for-tarballs: http://debtorrent.alioth.debian.org/ Dave - This SF.Net email is

Re: [Fink-devel] Python patch for offlineimap

2008-03-16 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
This bug has already been reported to the OfflineIMAP folks: http://software.complete.org/software/issues/show/20 . Apparently the bug in Python is fixed, so this problem will no longer occur with Python 2.5.3 and higher. However, contrary to the impression given by the issue tracker, earlier

Re: [Fink-devel] dpkg-deb: use --no-unquote as argument to tar

2008-01-04 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
But Fink's tar is in the dependency list of dpkg, so it should be used. I think this is true only when fink calls dpkg, because fink does some path munging first. However I just tried this: sudo dtrace -n 'syscall::execve:entry { self-path = copyinstr(arg0); } syscall::execve:return / arg0 == 0

Re: [Fink-devel] new pdb (hopefully) ready for testing

2007-12-06 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
Looks very cool! A few minor quibbles: * The 'Sort order' field seems meaningless. The only option is 'Descending', but the results are always sorted ascending by name anyhow. I'd suggest just scrapping the field, what's the point of sorting descending-by-name? * Could you add a way to search

Re: [Fink-devel] Info3?

2006-12-30 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Dec 30, 2006, at 11:59 AM, Martin Costabel wrote: Michèle Garoche wrote: Sorry if my question seems to be trivial. I need an answer first for my own understanding, second for correct translation. Sorry for putting new things into Fink without sufficient explanation to some

Re: [Fink-devel] Some recent weirdness

2006-12-11 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Dec 11, 2006, at 2:52 AM, Martin Costabel wrote: The latter file does indeed have incomplete sections that consist only of 3 lines and have no Packages: line, for example: Filename: dists/unstable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/base/ libncurses5-shlibs_5.4-20041023-9_darwin-powerpc.deb Size:

Re: [Fink-devel] multiple notify plugins?

2006-12-08 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Dec 7, 2006, at 9:09 AM, Charles Lepple wrote: I was looking through the Fink/Notify.pm code, and it seems like only one plugin can be active at a time. I'm not well versed in Perl OOP, so I'm wondering if anyone knows of any architectural showstoppers for changing the NotifyPlugin

Re: [Fink-devel] Good way for testing stable-readiness?

2006-04-06 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Apr 6, 2006, at 2:54 AM, Daniel Macks wrote: Yeah, but neither works for other tree than the one I am using right now, do they? By other tree, you mean in the Distribution sense (can't check 10.3 from a 10.4-transitional machine; can't check intel from a powerpc machine) right? The --trees

Re: [Fink-devel] Good way for testing stable-readiness?

2006-04-06 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Apr 6, 2006, at 11:01 AM, Daniel Macks wrote: Do we assume that if a user is forging $distribution, it should only be for use within fink itself (for dep-checking and listing), not actually to be able to install these packages? Yes, I think so. We should assume that it's in dry-run mode.

Re: [Fink-devel] Good way for testing stable-readiness?

2006-04-05 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Apr 5, 2006, at 10:56 AM, Daniel Macks wrote: fink --trees=stable/main,stable/crypto,virtual rebuild foo Note that this is equivalent to fink --trees=stable,virtual rebuild foo Just to save you all some typing. :-) Dave PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [Fink-devel] perl -pi.bak

2006-03-31 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Mar 31, 2006, at 4:54 PM, William Scott wrote: Should we no longer be using perl -pi.bak instead of perl - pi? Some of my packages got changed back to the latter, so I am wondering if I should fix the rest of them It doesn't really matter usually. Just don't do perl -pi.bak on

Re: [Fink-devel] Merge fink ChangeLogs?

2006-03-29 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Mar 29, 2006, at 8:01 AM, Max Horn wrote: such that they list the full file path, i.e. update/config.guess, update/config.sub in this case. I'm perfectly happy to have a merged Changelog. May I suggest, however, that for non-duplicate filenames we omit the full path? By far most of

Re: [Fink-devel] Machine readable package list?

2006-03-20 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Mar 20, 2006, at 5:14 PM, Chris Dolan wrote: Yes, fink list data are indeed exactly what I'm seeking, but the numbers need to be accessible to a non-Mac and Macs that don't have Fink installed. I can do fink list or the equivalent on my own machine and upload the data to my own website

Re: [Fink-devel] Maintainers (was: FYI: SDL change)

2006-03-19 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Mar 19, 2006, at 5:10 PM, Trevor Harmon wrote: And though I understand that you feel snubbed at having your package taken out of your hands, I feel that packages *should* be able to be taken out of a maintainer's hands, as long as responsibility for the changes are also taken out of the

Re: [Fink-devel] Dependency problem in cdat

2006-03-15 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Mar 15, 2006, at 12:02 AM, Daniel Macks wrote: $ fink build cdat unable to resolve version conflict on multiple dependencies python = 1:2.4-1 python = 2.5-1 Exiting with failure. The offending dependency is: python (= 1:2.4-1) | python (= 2.5-1) I can't tell you

Re: [Fink-devel] Q: how to get a current version of fink (the manager)?

2006-03-01 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Mar 1, 2006, at 12:57 PM, Adrian Mugnolo wrote: Earlier today I came accross a problem with the fink validate command (a call to an undefined Perl subroutine). When I checked against CVS, fink (the manager) files on my system were not current. Adrian, Fink (the package manager) has a new

Re: [Fink-devel] Q: Trees search order or precedence?

2006-02-28 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Feb 28, 2006, at 3:16 AM, Martin Costabel wrote: In very old versions of fink, the search order used to be from left to right in the Trees line (or so the documentation said). Nowadays it seems to be from right to left. This is, of course, not reasonable, given that local/main is by

[Fink-devel] Proposal: New percent-expansion for full version (Was: HEAD buildlocks (and maybe others?) don't handle epoch)

2006-02-27 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Feb 27, 2006, at 10:11 AM, Daniel Macks wrote: So either there's a bug in get_depends (either its implementation or how it is being called in this code snippet) or there's a bug in your .info file (missing %e in the Depends line). It's a bug in the .info file. The SplitOffs had Depends: %N

Re: [Fink-devel] KDE builds on Intel! (mostly)

2006-02-27 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Feb 27, 2006, at 9:57 PM, Daniel Johnson wrote: The blocker for kdeaccessibility3 is gstreamer (at least) which uses assembly language files for it's x86 build. Unfortunately, Apple's assembler appears to use a different syntax than the Gnu assembler and dies horribly when trying to

Re: [Fink-devel] Gettext stable-unstable switching on 10.4 tree

2006-02-25 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
Alright, here's the reason SysState exists, and why it gives an error. Dpkg has a reasonably serious bug in it: when a package is upgraded, dpkg doesn't check to see if there are any versioned dependencies that have become invalid. This has yet to be fixed upstream, here's one of the

Re: [Fink-devel] Gettext stable-unstable switching on 10.4 tree

2006-02-25 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Feb 25, 2006, at 9:48 AM, David R. Morrison wrote: However, there are some pairs of packages (dclib0 and valknut come to mind) which have been set up so that one depends on a precise version of another. It seems to me that these would be completely impossible to update with the strict

Re: [Fink-devel] Gettext stable-unstable switching on 10.4 tree

2006-02-25 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Feb 25, 2006, at 11:23 AM, David R. Morrison wrote: 2. Even if we don't tell dpkg to install both at once, the SysState algorithm will figure things out in the simple cases, when upgrading the depender fixes things. For example, say you have foo-shlibs-1.0-1 and foo-dev-1.0-1 installed

Re: [Fink-devel] Gettext stable-unstable switching on 10.4 tree

2006-02-25 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Feb 25, 2006, at 3:28 PM, David R. Morrison wrote: To explain: after the update, gettext (which really means gettext- shlibs but for historical reasons is called gettext) and gettext- dev are in one package, which is really just a legacy package for the old version of the library. The

Re: [Fink-devel] Gettext stable-unstable switching on 10.4 tree

2006-02-25 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Feb 25, 2006, at 4:07 PM, David R. Morrison wrote: So its only because we don't have a deb for (old) gettext-tools? If I built the old gettext-tools first it would be OK? Gah, I've been getting things wrong. Lemme see if I can get this straight. We have these packages in stable:

Re: [Fink-devel] some gtk+2 issues

2006-02-23 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
Thanks for the testing Daniel! Indeed no such file exists in any gtk+2 splitoffs, but if I run /sw/ sbin/update-gdk-pixbuf-loaders from gtk+2 that file is created and abiword works. I think update-gdk-pixbuf-loaders needs to be run during the gtk+2 build. Actually it needs to be run at

Re: [Fink-devel] fink commander 0.5.4 known broken?

2005-12-08 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Dec 7, 2005, at 6:04 AM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Or is it something peculiar to me that keeps it saying updating the table data with a barber pole forever? Randal, What version of Fink are you running? Unreleased versions from CVS have a known issue with FinkCommander updating the

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: Fink binary distributions

2005-11-06 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Nov 5, 2005, at 11:28 PM, Chris Dolan wrote: On Nov 5, 2005, at 5:45 PM, Alexander K. Hansen wrote: A problem opposite to the one that you mentioned also occurs: building on different machines with different packages that solve the same virtual dependency (e.g. Xorg vs. Apple's X11) will

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: Fink binary distributions

2005-11-05 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Nov 5, 2005, at 1:01 AM, Philip Lamb wrote: Originally, I was under the impression that there was a machine autobuilding packages and uploading the binaries. However this is obviously untrue. Does the fink project have the resources to have such an autobuild system established? Ideally,

Re: [Fink-devel] Intriguing!

2005-10-27 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Oct 27, 2005, at 8:42 AM, Murali Vadivelu wrote: configure: WARNING: There is an installation error in jpeg support. You seem to have only one of either the headers _or_ the libraries installed. You may need to either provide correct --with-extra-... options, or the development package

Re: [Fink-devel] May I try to maintain deborphan orphaned package ?

2005-10-10 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Oct 8, 2005, at 4:31 AM, Philippe Lelédy wrote: I've used Fink since the beginning, both binary and source distibutions. I've experimented a bit with software packaging in general and with fink packaging in particular. So I'd like trying maintaining some fink packages, and I thought

Re: [Fink-devel] Binary Installer (0.8.0) not very usable on a non-dev system

2005-10-05 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Oct 5, 2005, at 2:56 AM, Martin Costabel wrote: If you only use apt-get, you don't need the dev tools. The new -- use-binary-dist flag in fink rather muddies the waters here, because it seems to promise that you can use the binary dist with the fink command which is only partly true.

Re: [Fink-devel] renaming a package

2005-09-25 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Sep 25, 2005, at 7:22 AM, Koen van der Drift wrote: Found the problem, I forgot to remove the Conflicts field in biopython-py.info: What about the Replaces and Provides fields, can they stay in the info file ? Hmm, it looks to me like they should all be there (including Conflicts). I

Re: [Fink-devel] renaming a package

2005-09-24 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
Hi Koen, Judging from your error messages, it looks like the biopython-py24 you had installed and the one you had in a .deb were different, even though they had the same version/revision. (This can happen if you make changes and rebuild.) Could you try installing python-biopython- py24

Re: [Fink-devel] gettext problems

2005-09-21 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Sep 21, 2005, at 10:37 PM, TheSin wrote: The following errors remain: Unsatisfied dependency in gettext-tools: gettext (= 0.10.40-19) To fix manually, run: sudo apt-get install gettext-dev=0.10.40-24 gettext=0.10.40-24 Hmm, why is there no gettext-tools 0.10.40-19? There should either

Re: [Fink-devel] Developer access for committing info files

2005-09-13 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Sep 13, 2005, at 6:10 PM, Philip Lamb wrote: A quick question as to what the criteria are for giving a developer access to commit info files to the fink repository. It's been kinda informal up to now, basically after you have a few packages under your belt some developer will take

[Fink-devel] New dep-fixing algorithm

2005-09-13 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
Hi folks, I worked on that algorithm that was causing so much trouble before. It should now ignore any pre-existing problems, it will just make sure not to cause more trouble. Testing would be appreciated. Thanks for the bug reports, Dave PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed

Re: [Fink-devel] BuildConflicts swapping code still not quite there

2005-09-12 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Sep 12, 2005, at 11:07 AM, Jean-François Mertens wrote: Do you want to continue? [Y/n] (assuming default) Could not resolve inconsistent dependencies! The following errors remain: Unsatisfied dependency in font-ttf-pm-bin: font-ttf-pm (= 0.34-1) snip about 20 more bad deps Wow, that's

Re: [Fink-devel] BuildConflicts swapping code still not quite there

2005-09-11 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Sep 11, 2005, at 8:38 AM, Martin Costabel wrote: Whereas the swapping code now manages to swap several BuildConflicts in and out during one run, there seem to be narrow limits to its capacity. BuildConflicts is known to be mostly broken, there's a bug on the tracker. It also hasn't

Re: [Fink-devel] BuildConflicts swapping code still not quite there

2005-09-11 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Sep 11, 2005, at 1:50 PM, Martin Costabel wrote: Dave Vasilevsky wrote: You can almost certainly get around this for now by manually removing libquicktime0, then building python24. After that the original command should work, or at least get farther. Sure, but it's a bug anyway

[Fink-devel] Re: fink ChangeLog,1.363,1.364 fink.conf.5.in,1.31,1.32

2005-08-30 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Aug 30, 2005, at 10:38 PM, Benjamin Reed wrote: Bzip2Path: the path to your bzip2 (or compatible) binary The Bzip2Path option lets you override the default path for the bzip2 command-line tool. This allows you to specify an alternate location to your

Re: [Fink-devel] fileutils missing dep on libgettext3-shlibs kills /usr/bin/gcc

2005-08-30 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Aug 28, 2005, at 4:05 AM, Martin Costabel wrote: /usr/bin/env PATH=/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin gcc_select Fink now does this, thanks for the advice. Just my €0.02 Or 3¢ Canadian. Darn all you folks with currencies that are worth something... Dave PGP.sig Description: This is a

Re: [Fink-devel] XCode Legacy Tools on ADC

2005-08-23 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Aug 23, 2005, at 6:21 PM, Daniel Johnson wrote: An XCode Legacy Tools package is now available on ADC which provides, among other things, gcc 2.95.2 and gcc 3.1 for Tiger (and Panther). If a Tiger user installs this, fink will want to install it's gcc3.1 package since it's version

Re: [Fink-devel] Help in Gnome apps

2005-08-22 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Aug 22, 2005, at 2:30 PM, Sébastien Maret wrote: I can't read the help files of Gnome app. I don't really have much to contribute here. Just confirming that this happens, and that I don't know why. Maybe a bug in yelp? Dave PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [Fink-devel] aqua native software

2005-08-15 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Aug 14, 2005, at 1:18 PM, Ben Willmore wrote: I think a better solution would be for Fink detect the version of XCode that is being used, and explicitly make that information available in a % expansion, I don't think it's necessarily a good idea to have such a specific percent

Re: [Fink-devel] Is there a Launchd alternative to daemonic?

2005-08-15 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Aug 13, 2005, at 1:28 PM, William Scott wrote: Is there a way for fink to install a Launchd file into /Library/ LaunchAgents for 10.4 packages? Not yet. It would not be terribly hard however to 1) Make a version of Daemonic that uses launchd instead of startup items but is otherwise

Re: [Fink-devel] Where is info2 format documented?

2005-08-06 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Aug 6, 2005, at 10:55 AM, Kevin Horton wrote: 1. These examples suggest that the info2 portion can be imbedded in a regular .info file. I.e. I don't need to have the Info2: at the top of the file. But, if I look at the .info files on my HD, I can only find the Info2: at the top of

Re: [Fink-devel] libggetext3

2005-08-04 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Aug 4, 2005, at 6:05 AM, Max Horn wrote: Alas, libggetext3 isn't in stable (yet). My question: Are there plans to move it to stable soon? Max, Because libgettext3 and gettext-dev conflict, the Fink dependency engine has to be able to switch back and forth between them when build

Re: [Fink-devel] Use-binary-dist flakiness

2005-08-04 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Aug 4, 2005, at 7:12 PM, Martin Costabel wrote: This one comes from the Installed-Size: field in the DEBIAN/ control file. apt-get compares package versions not only by their version-revision number, but also by a VersionHash number which is computed by taking into account several fields

Re: [Fink-devel] gfortran package

2005-08-01 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
Martin, I'm sorry if we came off as brash and inconsiderate. I definitely was not advising that we shouldn't package gfortran 4.1-CVS out of ideology, or blindly following rules. Hopefully my explanations here can allay your concerns. First, I agree with you that every package should

Re: [Fink-devel] Treatment of virtual packages, Version 2

2005-07-31 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Jul 30, 2005, at 3:24 PM, Alexander Hansen wrote:IMO we shouldn't have 'bar' provide 'foo' as well as have a separate 'foo' package.  This is a continual source of chaos.  There are many many packages right now that do this. Major reasons are: variants/ssl, old packages that used to be separate

Re: [Fink-devel] Treatment of virtual packages, Version 2

2005-07-30 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
One confusing thing is with 'fink remove'. If there's an actual package 'foo' and also a package 'bar' which provides 'foo', what should 'fink remove foo' do? 1) Remove just foo, if it's installed? 2) Remove foo and bar if either are installed? Dave PGP.sig Description: This is a

Re: [Fink-devel] gfortran package

2005-07-30 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Jul 30, 2005, at 7:21 AM, Max Horn wrote: Fink is not (!) supposed to be a test-bed for an unreleased compiler. It is easy enough to build gcc from cvs. Yes, exactly. Fink is a distribution, not a testing system. There's no reason that fink (lowercase, the package manager) can't be

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: fink/perlmod/Fink ChangeLog,1.1072,1.1073 Package.pm,1.145,1.146

2005-07-29 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Jul 29, 2005, at 11:38 AM, TheSin wrote: it won't be cause now if a Info2 is added that has spacing it'll break parsing on older finks. We simply can not allow spaces in Info2, without using Info3. Good point! Ok, Info3 then. Flame away! :-) Dave PGP.sig Description: This is

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: fink/perlmod/Fink ChangeLog,1.1072,1.1073 Package.pm,1.145,1.146

2005-07-29 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Jul 29, 2005, at 1:55 PM, Daniel Macks wrote: Apply this python method to all fields, not just Info3 (pass $infon read_properties_var and do it in the parser). Ok, done. With this code, Python scripts in CompileScript, and indented shell heredocs and all kinds of stuff that was hard and

Re: [Fink-devel] pilot-link9-0.11.8-32

2005-07-26 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Jul 22, 2005, at 10:34 PM, Mark Marin wrote: mv: rename /sw/src/fink.build/root-pilot-link9-0.11.8-32/sw/lib/ python2.3 to /sw/src/fink.build/root-pilot-link9-py23-0.11.8-32/sw/lib/ python2.3: No such file or directory This is usually indicative of a failure earlier in the build. Please

Re: [Fink-devel] New fink release, testing needed

2005-07-26 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Jul 26, 2005, at 7:47 PM, Kyle Moffett wrote: I think I remember that it used to create/update apt-get package lists for local filesystem repositories, so that when running dselect you can see what deb files are on the local filesystem, even if they aren't installed at the moment. As

[Fink-devel] New fink release, testing needed

2005-07-25 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
Hey folks, We're about to release fink 0.24.8. This is a bit of a bigger point- release than usual, because a bunch of features from the future 0.25 have been backported, so we'd like to get a few days of testing on - devel before release. To try it out, you can access the branch

Re: [Fink-devel] New fink release, testing needed

2005-07-25 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Jul 25, 2005, at 7:33 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Dave * 'fink rescan' is deprecated because nobody knows what it's Dave for. If Dave you know, tell us! I've used it as a ritual turn east and pray action when I've gone in and hacked my local .info and .patch files. Is it no

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: dists/10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/base tar.info,1.8,1.9

2005-07-20 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Jul 20, 2005, at 4:56 AM, Martin Costabel wrote: I can understand that one would require packages to have *explicit* dependencies on essentials, as a preparation to eventually un- essentialize some of these, but *implicit* dependencies on essentials seems to be nonsensical. They are

Re: [Fink-devel] Fwd: Compiling pwlib on 10.4 (Tiger)

2005-07-18 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Jul 18, 2005, at 10:42 AM, Kyle Moffett wrote: virtual thunk to std::basic_istreamchar, std::char_traitschar ::~basic_istream() If you do a 'nm -m' on libstdc++, that symbol is in section (__TEXT,__textcoal_nt), which means it's a 'coalesced' symbol. I'm not sure if this is relevant,

Re: [Fink-devel] build error: directory

2005-07-11 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Jul 10, 2005, at 9:36 PM, Jesse Alama wrote: When the file emacs-wiki_2.68.orig.tar.gz, which is downloaded from the debian, is unpacked it creates the directory `emacs-wiki'. Judging from the final error message, it seems that fink expects the unpacked file to be called something else,

Re: [Fink-devel] gtk+2 strangeness.

2005-07-09 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Jul 8, 2005, at 11:43 PM, Corey Halpin wrote: (gdb) bt #0 0x8fe0878c in __dyld_is_library_loaded_by_name () #1 0x8fe02e38 in __dyld_load_library_image () #2 0x8fe0642c in __dyld_load_images_libraries () #3 0x8fe04720 in __dyld_map_bundle_image () #4 0x8fe12ec8 in

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: [Fink-users] New 10.2-gcc3.3 Packages?

2005-07-07 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Jul 7, 2005, at 9:49 AM, Dan Sommers wrote: I must be the only one here still running fink on Jaguar, so I have recently borrowed some info/patch files from the 10.3 tree on SourceForge, copied them to my /sw/fink/dists/local tree, and installed them, and they seem to work. Specifically,

Re: [Fink-devel] 10.4 tree

2005-07-06 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Jul 5, 2005, at 10:58 PM, Philip Lamb wrote: Obviously we have 10.4-transitional using g++-3.3, but how is Fink going to enforce a complete rebuild of c++-based packages for users under 10.4? Another issue is that we will potentially have packages which cannot link to anything pre

Re: [Fink-devel] Help needed with g++ handling

2005-06-29 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
Hi Michèle, I'm glad my email was helpful to you. The SetCXX: c++ and SetCC: cc that you used in cssed accomplish nothing, but they're also harmless. So you can leave them in or remove them, it's up to you. So, it was here till the beginning, could I remove it in all trees? I mean this is

Re: [Fink-devel] Use-binary-dist flakiness

2005-06-29 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Jun 29, 2005, at 8:07 AM, Martin Costabel wrote: Using a local server for unstable debs, I have a long-standing quibble with apt-get: It often doesn't understand that a package is already installed and apt-get dist-upgrade downloads and installs many packages, sometimes hundreds of

Re: [Fink-devel] Help needed with g++ handling

2005-06-28 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
Hi Michèle, It seems you're a bit confused, understandable given the GCC situation. Hopefully this mail can make things clearer, it's a bit long so I've written it in sections. Also, you may want to read the new section in the packaging manual: http://fink.sourceforge.net/doc/

Re: [Fink-devel] soap-lite-pm

2005-06-28 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Jun 28, 2005, at 8:28 AM, Chris Dolan wrote: The /sw/bin files should go in a -bin splitoff. See spreadsheet- writeexcel-pm.info for a simple example. Note that there should perhaps also be a -man splitoff. On Jun 27, 2005, at 5:13 PM, Koen van der Drift wrote: During the installation

Re: [Fink-devel] GCC ABI recompiling issues

2005-06-27 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Jun 27, 2005, at 6:24 PM, Peter O'Gorman wrote: If your app/library does not use any c++ api then it does not need to be rebuilt. You can use Ben's idea to check this. nm -g app out1; nm -g app | c++filt out2; cmp out1 out2 I have a script I've been using to check my packages this

Re: [Fink-devel] need builder for programm

2005-06-17 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Jun 17, 2005, at 4:16 AM, Daniel Macks wrote: On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 09:28:59AM +0200, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: a binary version is probably no good, because it would depend on libraries that may not be there. gtk is not normally available on a Mac. Building it static would avoid

Re: [Fink-devel] openssl-linked packages: need new license type?

2005-06-14 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Jun 14, 2005, at 4:51 AM, Daniel Macks wrote: OTOH, we could generalize the solution away from fink's openssl linkage policy and just add a new Restrictive/Source-Distributable license type. I have no doubt that some of the other Restrictive packages may allow souce redistribution but (for

Re: [Fink-devel] '$MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET mismatch: now 10.4 but 10.3 during configure' error compiling clearsilver with python2.4

2005-06-12 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Jun 12, 2005, at 9:03 AM, Jeremy Higgs wrote: error: $MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET mismatch: now 10.4 but 10.3 during configure make[1]: *** [neo_cgi.so] Error 1 The compile continues, but the file (neo_cgi.so) is not compiled, and therefore not installed... which is a bit of a problem.

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: Fink package jove failing with --build-as-nobody

2005-06-10 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Jun 10, 2005, at 1:06 AM, Blair Zajac wrote: Looking at the log, it's doing a chown to root in the temporary install directory: Hi Blair, Matthew wrote: --build-as-nobody is needed to be able to create bindists automatically and safely, and we're hoping to switch it over to be the

Re: [Fink-devel] Running your own Binary Distribution Server

2005-05-31 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
using some chroot trickiness, but I honestly don't know how reliable that would be.) Alternatively, you can have two separate repositories for 10.3 and 10.4-transitional. On May 31, 2005, at 7:43 PM, Dave Vasilevsky wrote: By the way, if you would like to have 'fink scanpackages' run many

Re: [Fink-devel] Fink Build Status; QA Proposal

2005-05-31 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On May 31, 2005, at 10:55 PM, Michèle Garoche wrote:Le 31 mai 2005 à 23:48, Matthew Sachs a écrit :The second build will use 10.4-transitional and not try to force 4.0, and will build the packages as 'nobody' instead of 'root'.That would be good, because I've begun on 27th May and only 1120

Re: [Fink-devel] Stopping Spotlight

2005-05-25 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On May 25, 2005, at 9:55 AM, Hanspeter Niederstrasser wrote: Will this be %p/src/foo-%v-%r.build or %p/src/fink.build/foo-%v-%r? The second one. Packages will build in %p/src/fink.build/%f and will install in %p/src/fink.build/root-%f . I'm mostly just thinking that doing

[Fink-devel] Re: Stopping Spotlight

2005-05-25 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On May 25, 2005, at 10:43 AM, Kinako wrote: Adding sw into /System/Library/Find/SkipFolders might work. In my testing it doesn't. Dave PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part

[Fink-devel] Stopping Spotlight

2005-05-24 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
Hi folks, Some of you have already noticed Spotlight indexing /sw/src, which makes builds slow. For various reasons the solutions suggested so far aren't ideal[1], but msachs found out for us that directories with the *.build do not have anything inside them indexed. So we're going to

Re: [Fink-devel] gdk-pixbuf-0.18.0-12

2005-05-22 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
The issue should be fixed now. Apparently the original issue (that I fixed in a broken way) was originally because of an earlier fink patch, I just took out the broken part of that and removed both mine and Martin's later fixes. Thanks for your help Martin. Dave PGP.sig Description:

Re: [Fink-devel] missing patch file does not give an error

2005-05-18 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
[snip patchscript options] Another option, which doesn't require changes to hundreds of packages, is to require bash 3.0 and use the pipefail option for PatchScripts: bash-3.00$ false | true; echo $? 0 bash-3.00$ set -o pipefail bash-3.00$ false | true; echo $? 1 Dave PGP.sig Description:

[Fink-devel] Autoconf 2.5 on Tiger

2005-05-02 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
Getting this error while installing/building autoconf: /sw/bin/install -c -m 644 ./standards.info /Library/Fink/src/root- autoconf2.5-2.59-6/sw/share/info/standards.info cd doc make html texi2html -split_chapter ./autoconf.texi ** Unknown command [EMAIL PROTECTED]' (left as is) (l. 8) ** Unknown

Re: [Fink-devel] Autoconf 2.5 on Tiger

2005-05-02 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On May 2, 2005, at 5:25 AM, David R. Morrison wrote: OTOH, fink's texi2html package has deliberately not been updated to this newest version. So BuildDepends: texi2html should cure the problem for now. There's a problem with this. Fink's texi2html uses #!/sw/bin/perl . But I'm using

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: [fink-seed] findutils problem

2005-05-01 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
Hey guys, I'm not sure why nobody's asking me about this, given that I'm the maintainer. In 10.3/unstable I've already put findutils 4.2.20 rev 2, which fixes this issue in my testing. I don't yet have a Tiger system working, so if somebody would like to test my fix and then commit the

Re: [Fink-devel] variants and patching

2005-04-24 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Apr 24, 2005, at 8:57 AM, Koen van der Drift wrote: For a package I maintain only one of the variants needs to be patched. How can I add that in the .info file? Probably the best way is to use a PatchScript: PatchScript: #!/bin/sh -ev if [ %type_raw[-foo] = -foo ]; then patch

Re: [Fink-devel] Problem with -fabi-version=1

2005-04-19 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Apr 19, 2005, at 1:12 AM, Matthew Sachs wrote: In further testing, however, it seems that it also works with g++-3.3 on Tiger and no -fabi-version on Panther without the SDK. I've asked my coworkers for clarification on why we should be using the SDK in this situation. Ok guys, I've talked

Re: [Fink-devel] Problem with -fabi-version=1

2005-04-18 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Apr 18, 2005, at 2:53 PM, Matthew Sachs wrote: I got word that the default for -fabi-version in 3.3 is -1, for compatibility with 3.1. So that explains why you can't link -fabi-version=1 packages with 3.3-built default ABI packages. Code is here:

Re: [Fink-devel] Problem with -fabi-version=1

2005-04-18 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Apr 19, 2005, at 12:09 AM, Peter O'Gorman wrote: Ah, how silly of me, of course I need to specify g++-3.3 on tiger. That or pass -fabi-version=1. Sorry for the confusion! My intro to this kinda sucked before, so according to what we know now, these are some examples of what should work and

Re: [Fink-devel] Problem with -fabi-version=1

2005-04-18 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Apr 18, 2005, at 6:21 PM, TheSin wrote: if upgrading from 10.3 - 10.4 will will need to set abi-version to 0  I'm not sure but I think this will work. I strongly suspect this will not work. -fabi-version=0 is equivalent to -fabi-version=the maximum supported ABI version for this g++. So on

Re: [Fink-devel] the gpl and openssl

2005-03-26 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Mar 16, 2005, at 2:39 PM, Lars Rosengreen wrote: Yes, I think we do. I'll try to construct a list of packages that may be affected. Thanks Lars. I guess once we have this, for each package we'll need to: - Notify the upstream developers that they're sitting on a time bomb. :-) - Do one of

Re: [Fink-devel] buildconflicts, buildlock

2005-02-26 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Feb 26, 2005, at 6:08 PM, David R. Morrison wrote: OK, in my opinion, this behavior as reported by Robert indicates that the buildlock system is not yet working as it should. It's working fine, it's catching a bug in Fink right away rather than later. :-) Fink is supposed to be able to

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: [Fink-beginners] undefined value as filehandle reference at /sw/lib/perl5/Fink/Package.pm line 36

2005-02-25 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Feb 25, 2005, at 10:24 AM, Daniel Macks wrote: open APTDUMP, $basepath/bin/apt-cache dump | Perl usually discourages this form, since if someone could convince $basepath to bstart with it might do bad things. Why not stick with this? open APTDUMP, -|, $basepath/bin/apt-cache dump; Still

[Fink-devel] popt and BuildDependsOnly policy

2005-02-21 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
Hi folks, Thanks to tonyarnold, the 'popt' package should no longer be required for packages that use popt-shlibs to have proper localization. Packages that Depend on popt despite it being BuildDependsOnly should no longer do so. So if you see fink warn about a package depending on popt,

Re: [Fink-devel] Perl variants -- problem and proposed solution

2005-02-14 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
Hi folks, While I agree with dmacks that we can't really automate this, I still think it's important to deal with. I think that if we support a perl version, we ideally want every variant to support that version. There are a few ways this could be accomplished: 1. Usually it's not considered

Re: [Fink-devel] PatchScript: how to handle broken pipes

2005-01-29 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Jan 28, 2005, at 1:31 AM, Daniel Macks wrote: If we ever rework our patchfile system, we could give percent-expansions to the filenames and then only define those % keys if the file actually existed. Yes, we ought to do that. As an ugly hack in the meantime, why not read STDERR and look for

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: Providing default /sw/var/lib/debfoster/keepers with base-files package?

2005-01-22 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Jan 20, 2005, at 8:02 PM, Daniel Macks wrote: If a user is not carfull the system might end up unusable due to e.g. a missing apt while running with UseBinaryDist. That's not an unusable state, since fink will merely issue a please install the apt pkg warning. But anyway... I think what was

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: Providing default /sw/var/lib/debfoster/keepers with base-files package?

2005-01-22 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Jan 20, 2005, at 8:02 PM, Daniel Macks wrote: If a user is not carfull the system might end up unusable due to e.g. a missing apt while running with UseBinaryDist. That's not an unusable state, since fink will merely issue a please install the apt pkg warning. But anyway... I think what was

Re: [Fink-devel] lifetime of static variables

2004-12-22 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Dec 22, 2004, at 2:24 AM, Martin Costabel wrote: Is this different from using the -single-module linker flag? The latter is often recommended for problems with static initializers. According to Apple, it's exactly the same thing: http://developer.apple.com/releasenotes/DeveloperTools/

Re: [Fink-devel] lifetime of static variables

2004-12-21 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Dec 16, 2004, at 9:17 PM, Mark Treiber wrote: I'm in the middle of updating my quantlib package and the test suite is producing a failure that doesn't occur on any other platform. Basically are there any known issues with the lifetime of static variables with the november gcc update? Mac OS X

Re: [Fink-devel] lifetime of static variables

2004-12-21 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
On Dec 21, 2004, at 11:25 AM, David Fang wrote: I've been using patterns like the code above in my own traits classes with static members. I've found that linking all the object files into one (via libtool convenience library) wasn't sufficient to force the linker to link in the modules'

[Fink-devel] Mozilla and Xorg

2004-10-03 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
Hi folks, As some of you have noticed, Mozilla will not build with Xorg. This is because it uses a new version of freetype which removed a formerly deprecated API. I have a version of mozilla in my experimental dir that is patched to use the replacement API. It should build with Xorg, and it

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