tanley N Salthe
> Sent: jeudi, 31 mai 2018 16:21
> To: Burgin, Mark; fis
> Subject: Re: [Fis] Is information physical? A logical analysis
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> Mark -- What Shannon referred to as 'entropy' was 'variety'. 'Information'
> per se was achieved by way of a reduction or winnowing of thi
Dear Arturo,
> On 21 May 2018, at 12:49, tozziart...@libero.it wrote:
>
> Dear Bruno,
> You state that:
> "When poll are done at congress in cosmology or quantum computing, about half
> of the physicists endorse the non collapse theory, as it is covariant, and
> has no “measurement problem”.
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> *From:* Fis [mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] *On Behalf Of *Stanley
> N Salthe
> *Sent:* jeudi, 31 mai 2018 16:21
> *To:* Burgin, Mark; fis
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Fis] Is information physical? A logical analysis
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>
> Mark
: Fis [mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] On Behalf Of Stanley N
Salthe
Sent: jeudi, 31 mai 2018 16:21
To: Burgin, Mark; fis
Subject: Re: [Fis] Is information physical? A logical analysis
Mark -- What Shannon referred to as 'entropy' was 'variety'. 'Information'
per se was achieved by way
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> -- Original Message --
> From: "Burgin, Mark"
> To: "Søren Brier" ; "Krassimir Markov" ;
> "fis@listas.unizar.es"
> Sent: 5/24/2018 4:23:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [Fis] Is i
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To: "Søren Brier" mailto:sbr@cbs.dk>>; "Krassimir
Markov" mailto:mar...@foibg.com>>;
"fis@listas.unizar.es" <mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es>>
Sent: 5/24/2018 4:23:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Fis] Is information physical? A logica
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Objet : RE: [Fis] Is information physical? A logical analysis
Dear Christoph
I am not sure what you mean. In my understanding the important dynamics in
Peirce’s pragmaticist semiotics is that symbols grow and create habits in a web
of signs in nature as well as in c
ssimir Markov;
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Objet : Re: [Fis] Is information physical? A logical analysis
Dear Mark, Loet and others
My point was that all the aspects I mention are part of a reality that is
bigger than what we can grasp under the realm of
om:* l...@leydesdorff.net <leydesdo...@gmail.com> *On Behalf Of *Loet
Leydesdorff
*Sent:* 24. maj 2018 07:45
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Krassimir Markov <mar...@foibg.com>; fis@listas.unizar.es
*Subject:* Re[2]: [Fis] Is information
De : Fis <fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es> de la part de Søren Brier
<sbr@cbs.dk>
Envoyé : jeudi 24 mai 2018 17:44
À : Loet Leydesdorff; Burgin, Mark; Krassimir Markov; fis@listas.unizar.es
Objet : Re: [Fis] Is information physical? A logical analysis
Dea
n Brier <sbr@cbs.dk>;
Krassimir Markov <mar...@foibg.com>; fis@listas.unizar.es
Subject: Re[2]: [Fis] Is information physical? A logical analysis
Dear Mark, Soren, and colleagues,
The easiest distinction is perhaps Descartes' one between res cogitans and res
extensa as two different
Thanks Lou, you are surely right to point out the object-nature of concepts.
>There is no escape from sooner or later realizing that 2 exists only
in the mind or in the Mind.
Indeed. Our minds are full of such concepts. It seems that one of the
important activities of the mind is to generate
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From: "Burgin, Mark" <mbur...@math.ucla.edu>
To: "Søren Brier" <sbr@cbs.dk>; "Krassimir Markov"
<mar...@foibg.com>; "fis@listas.unizar.es" <fis@listas.unizar.es>
Sent: 5/24/2018 4:23:5
Dai,
I start down a road toward attempting to understand information by first
understanding number and form.
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Is a number a thing?
Is 2 a thing?
Cannot say that this 2, this || “is” two. Rather it partakes in being a couple.
2 is relational. We say that there are 2 signs in
Dear Jerry, Joseph and all FISers,
The title of my contribution is Logical Analysis but not Formal Logical
Analysis. It means that I did not use any formal logic but thoroughly
applied simple mundane logic, which is frequently used in everyday life.
Sincerely,
Mark
On 5/18/2018 8:45
<mbur...@math.ucla.edu>
*Emne:* Re: [Fis] Is information physical? A logical analysis
Dear Mark and FIS Colleagues,
First of all. I support the idea of Mark to write a paper and to
publish it in IJ ITA.
It will be nice to continue our common work this way.
At the second place, I want to point t
Dear Bruno,
You state that:
"When poll are done at congress in cosmology or quantum computing, about half
of the physicists endorse the non collapse theory, as it is covariant, and has
no “measurement problem”.
This means that the main tenet of your account, your "First Principle", is not
Dear Arturo,
This is already my second post of this week, so you might answer to my two
posts, and I will comment your possible answer (if necessary) next week. Thank
you.
> On 20 May 2018, at 19:30, tozziart...@libero.it wrote:
>
> Dear Bruno,
> You talk about "some non mechanical
Dear Bruno,
You talk about "some non mechanical super-entities (which exist also in the
arithmetical reality)".
This way of reasoning throws us into the realm of the philosophy of
mathematics, in which you clearly pursue a neo-platonism in the traces of
Tegmark, Godel, Husserl, Tiles, against
Hi Dai Griffith, Hi Colleagues,
> On 17 May 2018, at 13:44, Dai Griffiths wrote:
>
> What is a 'thing'?
>
I assume Digital Mechanism all along. I don’t know if it is true, but if true
it provides a clear (and tastable) answer.
For the staring basic primitive
AJ=en
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From: "Jose Javier Blanco Rivero" <javierwe...@gmail.com>
To: "Burgin, Mark" <mbur...@math.ucla.edu>
Cc: "Fis," <fis@listas.unizar.es>
Sent: 5/17/2018 12:47:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Fis] Is information physical? A logica
What is a 'thing'?
Perhaps it is more reasonable to think that only processes exist, and
that for human convenience in living in the world we put conceptual
membranes around some parts of those processes and call them 'things'.
From this point of view we do not have two aspects (things and
Dear FISers,
I recently came across an old interview to W. van Orman Quine and I got an
idea -maybe not very original per se. Quine distinguishes two kind of
philosophical problems: ontological (those referred to the existence of
things) and predicative (what can we say and know about things).
oun...@listas.unizar.es> På vegne af Krassimir Markov
Sendt: 17. maj 2018 11:33
Til: fis@listas.unizar.es; Burgin, Mark <mbur...@math.ucla.edu>
Emne: Re: [Fis] Is information physical? A logical analysis
Dear Mark and FIS Colleagues,
First of all. I support the idea of Mark to write a paper an
] Is information physical? A logical analysis
Dear FISers,
It was an interesting discussion, in which many highly intelligent and
creative individuals participated expressing different points of view. Many
interesting ideas were suggested. As a conclusion to this discussion, I would
like to suggest
Dear FISers,
It was an interesting discussion, in which many highly intelligent
and creative individuals participated expressing different points of
view. Many interesting ideas were suggested. As a conclusion to this
discussion, I would like to suggest a logical analysis of the problem
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