Re: [Fis] A Paradox

2018-03-19 Thread Otto E. Rossler
i <949309...@qq.com>Cc: 闫学杉 , fis Subject: Re: [Fis] A Paradox Many thanks Zou. Syed Confidential: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom this email is addressed. If you are not one of the named

Re: [Fis] A Paradox

2018-03-18 Thread ZouXiaohui
: Syed Ali Date: ,3?? 6,2018 11:20 To: ZouXiaohui <949309...@qq.com> Cc: ?? , fis Subject: Re: [Fis] A Paradox Many thanks Zou. Syed Confidential: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or ent

Re: [Fis] A Paradox

2018-03-05 Thread Francesco Rizzo
st simple example from genetics is: an egg cell >> accepts a sperm cell, a fertilized egg contains a set of effective genetic >> information from paternal and maternal cell, here information transmission >> has taken place, but is there any "meaning" and "explan

Re: [Fis] A Paradox

2018-03-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
; meaning only is a human or animal phenomena and it does not be used in any > other context like plant or molecule or cell etc., this is the key we > dissolve the paradox. > > In general, I have not seen any effective explanation of this paradox so far. > > > > B

Re: [Fis] A Paradox

2018-03-04 Thread Alex Hankey
ay come up > with, my opponent can always succeed in coming up with an example I > missed. The only solution to such an end-less debate would be to discover > the axioms of algebra, at which level, there cannot be any debate. When I > took an abstract algebra course as an undergraduate at the

Re: [Fis] A Paradox

2018-03-04 Thread Francesco Rizzo
of view. Please give comments or >> suggestions! >> Thank you! >> >> Best wish! >> >>Zou Xiaohui >> >> >> 发自我的iPhone >> >> >> -- Original -- >> *From:* Syed Ali >> *D

Re: [Fis] A Paradox

2018-03-04 Thread Francesco Rizzo
tal object or > subject of information science). > These are Zou Xiaohui's point of view. Please give comments or > suggestions! > Thank you! > > Best wish! > >Zou Xiaohui > > > 发自我的iPhone > > > ------ Original -

Re: [Fis] A Paradox

2018-03-04 Thread ZouXiaohui
Best wish! Zou Xiaohui iPhone -- Original -- From: Syed Ali Date: ,3?? 5,2018 4:26 To: ZouXiaohui <949309...@qq.com> Cc: ?? , fis Subject: Re: [Fis] A Paradox Dear Colleagues:Could you critique a view: Information is the conta

Re: [Fis] A Paradox

2018-03-04 Thread Mark Johnson
ssex.ac.uk/spru/>University of > Sussex; > > Guest Professor Zhejiang Univ. <http://www.zju.edu.cn/english/>, > Hangzhou; Visiting Professor, ISTIC, > <http://www.istic.ac.cn/Eng/brief_en.html>Beijing; > > Visiting Fellow, Birkbeck <http://www.bbk.ac.uk/>, University o

Re: [Fis] A Paradox

2018-03-04 Thread Søren Brier
Søren From: Fis [mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] On Behalf Of Xueshan Yan Sent: 4. marts 2018 02:17 To: FIS Group Subject: Re: [Fis] A Paradox Dear Dai, Søren, Karl, Sung, Syed, Stan, Terry, and Loet, I am sorry to reply you late, but I have thoroughly read every post about

Re: [Fis] A Paradox

2018-03-04 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
t Leydesdorff" Cc: y...@pku.edu.cn; "FIS Group" Sent: 3/4/2018 1:03:17 PM Subject: Re: [Fis] A Paradox Dear Loet, all, I agree with this. Our construction of reality is never that of a single system: there are always multiple systems and they interfere with each other in the

Re: [Fis] A Paradox

2018-03-04 Thread Mark Johnson
t; Hangzhou; Visiting Professor, ISTIC, > <http://www.istic.ac.cn/Eng/brief_en.html>Beijing; > > Visiting Fellow, Birkbeck <http://www.bbk.ac.uk/>, University of London; > http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=ych9gNYAAAAJ&hl=en > > > -- Original Message --

Re: [Fis] A Paradox

2018-03-04 Thread ZouXiaohui
: [Fis] A Paradox Dear Dai, S?0?3ren, Karl, Sung, Syed, Stan, Terry, and Loet, I am sorry to reply you late, but I have thoroughly read every post about the paradox and they have brought me many inspirations, thank you. Now I offer my responses as follows: Dai, metaphor research is an ancient

Re: [Fis] A Paradox

2018-03-03 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
olar.google.com/citations?user=ych9gNYJ&hl=en -- Original Message -- From: "Xueshan Yan" To: "FIS Group" Sent: 3/4/2018 2:17:01 AM Subject: Re: [Fis] A Paradox Dear Dai, Søren, Karl, Sung, Syed, Stan, Terry, and Loet, I am sorry to reply you late, but I have

Re: [Fis] A Paradox

2018-03-03 Thread Xueshan Yan
e paradox. In general, I have not seen any effective explanation of this paradox so far. Best wishes, Xueshan From: Syed Ali [mailto:doctorsyedal...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 8:10 PM To: Sungchul Ji Cc: Terrence W. DEACON ; Xueshan Yan ; FIS Group Subject: Re: [Fis] A Para

Re: [Fis] A Paradox

2018-02-26 Thread Sungchul Ji
ion science waiting to be discovered, which will end all the heated debates on information, meaning, data, etc. ? All the best. Sung From: Fis on behalf of Terrence W. DEACON Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 1:13 PM To: Xueshan Yan Cc: FIS Group Subject: Re: [

Re: [Fis] A Paradox

2018-02-26 Thread Søren Brier
on: Science, Spirituality and Harmony. Editor / Ananta Kumar Giri. Delhi : Primus Books, 2017. pp. 53-96 From: l...@leydesdorff.net [mailto:leydesdo...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Loet Leydesdorff Sent: 26. februar 2018 19:03 To: Søren Brier ; Stanley N Salthe ; fis Subject: Re[2]: [Fis] A Pa

Re: [Fis] A Paradox

2018-02-26 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
It is so easy to get into a muddle mixing technical uses of a term with colloquial uses, and add a dash of philosophy and discipline-specific terminology and it becomes mental quicksand. Terms like 'information' and 'meaning" easily lead us into these sorts of confusions because they have so many c

Re: [Fis] A Paradox

2018-02-26 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
on; http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=ych9gNYJ&hl=en -- Original Message -- From: "Søren Brier" To: "Stanley N Salthe" ; "fis" Sent: 2/26/2018 6:41:25 PM Subject: Re: [Fis] A Paradox Thanks Stan. I agree: Behind production and interpretation of

Re: [Fis] A Paradox

2018-02-26 Thread Søren Brier
. februar 2018 16:19 To: Søren Brier ; fis Subject: Re: [Fis] A Paradox Following upon Søren: Meaning is derived for a system by way of Interpretation. The transmitted information has no meaning without interpretation. STAN On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 6:26 AM, Søren Brier mailto:sbr@cbs.dk

Re: [Fis] A Paradox

2018-02-26 Thread Stanley N Salthe
k/en/staff/sbrmsc , cybersemiotics.com. > > > > > > > > *Fra:* Fis [mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] *På vegne af *Xueshan Yan > *Sendt:* 26. februar 2018 10:47 > *Til:* FIS Group > *Emne:* [Fis] A Paradox > > > > Dear colleagues, > > In my teachi

Re: [Fis] A Paradox

2018-02-26 Thread Karl Javorszky
tion, CBS, Dalgas Have 15 > (2VO25), 2000 Frederiksberg > > Mobil 28494162 <(28)%20494%20162> www.cbs.dk/en/staff/sbrmsc , > cybersemiotics.com. > > > > > > > > *Fra:* Fis [mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] *På vegne af *Xueshan Yan > *Sendt:* 26.

Re: [Fis] A Paradox

2018-02-26 Thread Søren Brier
w.cbs.dk/en/staff/sbrmsc> , cybersemiotics.com. Fra: Fis [mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] På vegne af Xueshan Yan Sendt: 26. februar 2018 10:47 Til: FIS Group Emne: [Fis] A Paradox Dear colleagues, In my teaching career of Information Science, I was often puzzled by the following infere

Re: [Fis] A Paradox

2018-02-26 Thread Dai Griffiths
Dear Xueshan, You ask "how should we understand this paradox?" I suggest that we start by looking at what it might mean for information or meaning to be 'contained' in a sentence. Lakoff would have told us that this is a metaphor, and specifically the pervasive 'container metaphor'. According

[Fis] A Paradox

2018-02-26 Thread Xueshan Yan
Dear colleagues, In my teaching career of Information Science, I was often puzzled by the following inference, I call it Paradox of Meaning and Information or Armenia Paradox. In order not to produce unnecessary ambiguity, I state it below and strictly limit our discussion within the human context