Re: [Fish-users] Announcing Open Beta for our fancy new fish fork

2012-06-11 Thread Dave Frascone
I agree we should move to github.
On Jun 7, 2012 7:16 AM, Elis Axelsson elis.axels...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 6 June 2012 22:42, adisbladis a...@blad.is wrote:
 
  Axel Liljencrantz liljencra...@gmail.com writes:
  * Why do bug tracking on github and repo tracking on gitorious? I don't
  have an opinion on which one to use, and it's not my choice to make
  anymore, but I'd advise against using both at once.
 
  I think It's time we change this to go github only.. I for one think
  it's confusing to have it as it is now.

 I fully agree on that point. One good thing is that you can have
 references to issues in commits, which makes it easier to keep track
 of when issues is fixed and commits related to issues.

 For example:
 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1687262/link-to-github-issue-number-with-commit-message

 And personally... I think that github is easier to navigate and find
 what you are looking for, and I think many people agree on this point.

 Having a not-synced, not always up-to-date repo on github only for
 bugreports seems like a bad idea in the long run.

  I also think it's confusing for newcomers not to have the lates code in
  master but in fish_fish so I think this should be changed too asap.
 
  Btw, I see some issues that should be closed that aren't,
  https://github.com/ridiculousfish/fishfish/issues/1 for example.
  So it would be nice if someone with access to close the issues would
  take a quick look and do that.
 
  // adisbladis

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Re: [Fish-users] Announcing Open Beta for our fancy new fish fork

2012-06-07 Thread Elis Axelsson
On 6 June 2012 22:42, adisbladis a...@blad.is wrote:

 Axel Liljencrantz liljencra...@gmail.com writes:
 * Why do bug tracking on github and repo tracking on gitorious? I don't
 have an opinion on which one to use, and it's not my choice to make
 anymore, but I'd advise against using both at once.

 I think It's time we change this to go github only.. I for one think
 it's confusing to have it as it is now.

I fully agree on that point. One good thing is that you can have
references to issues in commits, which makes it easier to keep track
of when issues is fixed and commits related to issues.

For example: 
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1687262/link-to-github-issue-number-with-commit-message

And personally... I think that github is easier to navigate and find
what you are looking for, and I think many people agree on this point.

Having a not-synced, not always up-to-date repo on github only for
bugreports seems like a bad idea in the long run.

 I also think it's confusing for newcomers not to have the lates code in
 master but in fish_fish so I think this should be changed too asap.

 Btw, I see some issues that should be closed that aren't,
 https://github.com/ridiculousfish/fishfish/issues/1 for example.
 So it would be nice if someone with access to close the issues would
 take a quick look and do that.

 // adisbladis

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Re: [Fish-users] Announcing Open Beta for our fancy new fish fork

2012-06-06 Thread adisbladis

Axel Liljencrantz liljencra...@gmail.com writes:
 * Why do bug tracking on github and repo tracking on gitorious? I don't
 have an opinion on which one to use, and it's not my choice to make
 anymore, but I'd advise against using both at once.

I think It's time we change this to go github only.. I for one think
it's confusing to have it as it is now.

I also think it's confusing for newcomers not to have the lates code in
master but in fish_fish so I think this should be changed too asap.

Btw, I see some issues that should be closed that aren't,
https://github.com/ridiculousfish/fishfish/issues/1 for example.
So it would be nice if someone with access to close the issues would
take a quick look and do that.

// adisbladis

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Re: [Fish-users] Announcing Open Beta for our fancy new fish fork

2012-06-01 Thread Jan Kanis
 * Who, if anybody has been maintaining the non-fishfish fish codebase?
 * Does that person (if s/he exists) have any problem with making fishfish
 the default feature branch of fish?


There hasn't been any official structure in who are considered maintainers.
People who've had code to commit and requested it have access to the
repository at gitorious.org/fish-shell, and most of them are on this list.
The list of people with commit access is at
http://gitorious.org/+fish-shell-developers/memberships

I haven't had time yet to check out fishfish, but it's great to see the
effort. Being one of the committers, I think it's great to make/merge it
into the default branch.

Jan
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Re: [Fish-users] Announcing Open Beta for our fancy new fish fork

2012-06-01 Thread Axel Liljencrantz
2012/6/1 Jan Kanis jan.c...@jankanis.nl


 * Who, if anybody has been maintaining the non-fishfish fish codebase?
 * Does that person (if s/he exists) have any problem with making fishfish
 the default feature branch of fish?


 There hasn't been any official structure in who are considered
 maintainers. People who've had code to commit and requested it have access
 to the repository at gitorious.org/fish-shell, and most of them are on
 this list. The list of people with commit access is at
 http://gitorious.org/+fish-shell-developers/memberships

 I haven't had time yet to check out fishfish, but it's great to see the
 effort. Being one of the committers, I think it's great to make/merge it
 into the default branch.


Cool to see so many contributors.

From my playing around with ridiculousfishfish, is seems like it has some
very cool new code in, but is still a bit rough around the edges. It is,
after all labeled as beta. One option might be to christen it the official
development branch of fish and then once it's stabilized make it into the
new master branch.

Biggest annoyance with that plan is that because of the c=cpp renaming,
even trivial bug fix patches won't be possible to simply cherry pich from
one branch to the other, so shortening the stabilization period as much as
humanly possible would be highly advantageous in order to not split the
development effort.

Axel



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Re: [Fish-users] Announcing Open Beta for our fancy new fish fork

2012-05-30 Thread Martin Bähr
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 02:43:57AM -0700, ridiculous_fish wrote:
 - It's all in (sane) C++. No more string_buffer_t, array_list_t, or 
 hash_table_t, and no more halloc!

so it's more like a rewrite than a fork?

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Re: [Fish-users] Announcing Open Beta for our fancy new fish fork

2012-05-30 Thread Maxim Gonchar
Hi ridiculous_fish,

it's a really news.

Congratulations with beta!

Maxim


On Wed, 30 May 2012 13:43:57 +0400, ridiculous_fish  
corydo...@ridiculousfish.com wrote:

 Hello fellow fish fans! I am ridiculous_fish, and I come bearing  
 lungfuls of new life!

 Over the past year, I and my partner Siteshwar have been working on a  
 fish fork. We've been modernizing fish's codebase, while adding some  
 truly compelling features and improving performance. We've been living  
 on this fork for months, and we think it's _awesome_. Compared to stock  
 fish, our branch is noticeably faster and easier to maintain, and its  
 new features have ruined me for all other shells. bash now tastes like  
 cardboard.

 Our fork is now in Open Beta, and we'd like to invite you to try it out!  
 We are interested in feedback and bug reports.

 We'd also like to start a discussion about our changes and whether/how  
 to incorporate them into fish trunk (which we would very much like to  
 do). Our changes are transformative and impact nearly every aspect of  
 fish's code base, so it is not to be undertaken lightly. But our changes  
 are also very compelling from the perspectives of both users and  
 maintainers, and our months of living-on have given us a lot of  
 confidence in them. Our branch is not only the best fish ever made; we  
 think it's the best POSIX command line shell, period.

 Here's how to get it!

   Main page: http://ridiculousfish.com/shell/
   Open beta page: http://ridiculousfish.com/shell/beta.html
   Release notes: http://ridiculousfish.com/shell/release_notes.html
   Gitorious page:  
 https://gitorious.org/~ridiculousfish/fish-shell/fishfish

 The relevant git branch is fish_fish.

 Please share your thoughts, reactions, rants, raves, and bug reports on  
 this list. If all goes well, we'll announce the Open Beta more widely in  
 the upcoming week.

 A few teaser improvements (for a longer list, see the Release Notes  
 above):

 - Autosuggestions (think URL fields in browsers)
 - 256 color support
 - Web-based configuration
 - Syntax highlighting is now multithreaded, so it doesn't cause  
 stuttering typing on slow disks / filesystems
 - Overall performance is way better
 - It's all in (sane) C++. No more string_buffer_t, array_list_t, or  
 hash_table_t, and no more halloc!


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Re: [Fish-users] Announcing Open Beta for our fancy new fish fork

2012-05-30 Thread Patrick
Hi ridiculous_fish

This looks like it would have been a lot of work!

Thanks so much for doing this.

I am just installing it now.

I think the site is very good and I appreciate your sense of humour-Patrick





On 12-05-30 05:43 AM, ridiculous_fish wrote:
 Hello fellow fish fans! I am ridiculous_fish, and I come bearing lungfuls of 
 new life!

 Over the past year, I and my partner Siteshwar have been working on a fish 
 fork. We've been modernizing fish's codebase, while adding some truly 
 compelling features and improving performance. We've been living on this fork 
 for months, and we think it's _awesome_. Compared to stock fish, our branch 
 is noticeably faster and easier to maintain, and its new features have ruined 
 me for all other shells. bash now tastes like cardboard.

 Our fork is now in Open Beta, and we'd like to invite you to try it out! We 
 are interested in feedback and bug reports.

 We'd also like to start a discussion about our changes and whether/how to 
 incorporate them into fish trunk (which we would very much like to do). Our 
 changes are transformative and impact nearly every aspect of fish's code 
 base, so it is not to be undertaken lightly. But our changes are also very 
 compelling from the perspectives of both users and maintainers, and our 
 months of living-on have given us a lot of confidence in them. Our branch is 
 not only the best fish ever made; we think it's the best POSIX command line 
 shell, period.

 Here's how to get it!

Main page: http://ridiculousfish.com/shell/
Open beta page: http://ridiculousfish.com/shell/beta.html
Release notes: http://ridiculousfish.com/shell/release_notes.html
Gitorious page: https://gitorious.org/~ridiculousfish/fish-shell/fishfish

 The relevant git branch is fish_fish.

 Please share your thoughts, reactions, rants, raves, and bug reports on this 
 list. If all goes well, we'll announce the Open Beta more widely in the 
 upcoming week.

 A few teaser improvements (for a longer list, see the Release Notes above):

 - Autosuggestions (think URL fields in browsers)
 - 256 color support
 - Web-based configuration
 - Syntax highlighting is now multithreaded, so it doesn't cause stuttering 
 typing on slow disks / filesystems
 - Overall performance is way better
 - It's all in (sane) C++. No more string_buffer_t, array_list_t, or 
 hash_table_t, and no more halloc!


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Re: [Fish-users] Announcing Open Beta for our fancy new fish fork

2012-05-30 Thread Panayotis Katsaloulis

On 30 Μαϊ 2012, at 12:43 μ.μ., ridiculous_fish wrote:

 Hello fellow fish fans! I am ridiculous_fish, and I come bearing lungfuls of 
 new life!


Have you thought on sending this build to macports?


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Re: [Fish-users] Announcing Open Beta for our fancy new fish fork

2012-05-30 Thread Patrick
Hi Again

So I have it installed and I am giving it a go. I like it quite a lot 
and think it would be great for a primary shell.

I tilt two monitors on their side. I don't have that much width on each 
screen, so I like to keep my prompt short, just :.

I see there is a prompt function. Is there a variable to change this, or 
do I need to rewrite the function?

I hope this is not too negative but the doxygen dependency was huge on 
my xubuntu system, 650M. Is it possible for someone to install it 
without doxygen? Isn't it just for documentation or does it provide the 
project functionality?

Thanks again for all your hard work. Just curious, do you have a time 
estimate of how many hours this took you?

-Patrick


On 12-05-30 07:31 AM, Patrick wrote:
 Hi ridiculous_fish

 This looks like it would have been a lot of work!

 Thanks so much for doing this.

 I am just installing it now.

 I think the site is very good and I appreciate your sense of humour-Patrick






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Re: [Fish-users] Announcing Open Beta for our fancy new fish fork

2012-05-30 Thread David Frascone
Seems VERY VERY fast.  Command line completion is very clean (so far), and
simply screams.

Testing now on linux -- will test on OS X soon.

-Dave

On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 7:01 AM, Patrick patr...@spellingbeewinnars.orgwrote:

 Hi Again

 So I have it installed and I am giving it a go. I like it quite a lot
 and think it would be great for a primary shell.

 I tilt two monitors on their side. I don't have that much width on each
 screen, so I like to keep my prompt short, just :.

 I see there is a prompt function. Is there a variable to change this, or
 do I need to rewrite the function?

 I hope this is not too negative but the doxygen dependency was huge on
 my xubuntu system, 650M. Is it possible for someone to install it
 without doxygen? Isn't it just for documentation or does it provide the
 project functionality?

 Thanks again for all your hard work. Just curious, do you have a time
 estimate of how many hours this took you?

 -Patrick


 On 12-05-30 07:31 AM, Patrick wrote:
  Hi ridiculous_fish
 
  This looks like it would have been a lot of work!
 
  Thanks so much for doing this.
 
  I am just installing it now.
 
  I think the site is very good and I appreciate your sense of
 humour-Patrick
 
 
 
 



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Re: [Fish-users] Announcing Open Beta for our fancy new fish fork

2012-05-30 Thread Jan Kanis
Great to hear this! I already had a look at your C++ branch on gitorious
some time ago and I was wondering what you were planning to do with it.
I'll certainly give it a try.

On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:43 AM, ridiculous_fish 
corydo...@ridiculousfish.com wrote:

 Hello fellow fish fans! I am ridiculous_fish, and I come bearing lungfuls
 of new life!

 Over the past year, I and my partner Siteshwar have been working on a fish
 fork. We've been modernizing fish's codebase, while adding some truly
 compelling features and improving performance. We've been living on this
 fork for months, and we think it's _awesome_. Compared to stock fish, our
 branch is noticeably faster and easier to maintain, and its new features
 have ruined me for all other shells. bash now tastes like cardboard.

 Our fork is now in Open Beta, and we'd like to invite you to try it out!
 We are interested in feedback and bug reports.

 We'd also like to start a discussion about our changes and whether/how to
 incorporate them into fish trunk (which we would very much like to do). Our
 changes are transformative and impact nearly every aspect of fish's code
 base, so it is not to be undertaken lightly. But our changes are also very
 compelling from the perspectives of both users and maintainers, and our
 months of living-on have given us a lot of confidence in them. Our branch
 is not only the best fish ever made; we think it's the best POSIX command
 line shell, period.

 Here's how to get it!

  Main page: http://ridiculousfish.com/shell/
  Open beta page: http://ridiculousfish.com/shell/beta.html
  Release notes: http://ridiculousfish.com/shell/release_notes.html
  Gitorious page: https://gitorious.org/~ridiculousfish/fish-shell/fishfish

 The relevant git branch is fish_fish.

 Please share your thoughts, reactions, rants, raves, and bug reports on
 this list. If all goes well, we'll announce the Open Beta more widely in
 the upcoming week.

 A few teaser improvements (for a longer list, see the Release Notes above):

 - Autosuggestions (think URL fields in browsers)
 - 256 color support
 - Web-based configuration
 - Syntax highlighting is now multithreaded, so it doesn't cause stuttering
 typing on slow disks / filesystems
 - Overall performance is way better
 - It's all in (sane) C++. No more string_buffer_t, array_list_t, or
 hash_table_t, and no more halloc!



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Re: [Fish-users] Announcing Open Beta for our fancy new fish fork

2012-05-30 Thread David Frascone
The autosuggestions take a bit to get used to . . . they're kind of
distracting.  BUT:  They do guess correctly a lot -- which is nice.

The only thing I don't like so far is when it guesses almost right, the tab
acts funny.  For example:

If you are in a directory with five entries:  1234 1235 1236 1237 and you
type cd, it will autocomplete:

cd 1236/

With the cursor on the one.  If you then hit tab, the cursor will move to
123 so that you can choose which one to use.  However, when I see the dir I
want, for example, 1236, and hit enter, it instead tries to use cd 123 as
the completion.

Maybe I'm just doing it wrong . . . but, other than that, the suggestions
rock -- I'm sure there's a hotkey to say yes -- I just haven't found it
yet!

-Dave

On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Jan Kanis jan.c...@jankanis.nl wrote:

 Great to hear this! I already had a look at your C++ branch on gitorious
 some time ago and I was wondering what you were planning to do with it.
 I'll certainly give it a try.

 On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:43 AM, ridiculous_fish 
 corydo...@ridiculousfish.com wrote:

 Hello fellow fish fans! I am ridiculous_fish, and I come bearing lungfuls
 of new life!

 Over the past year, I and my partner Siteshwar have been working on a
 fish fork. We've been modernizing fish's codebase, while adding some truly
 compelling features and improving performance. We've been living on this
 fork for months, and we think it's _awesome_. Compared to stock fish, our
 branch is noticeably faster and easier to maintain, and its new features
 have ruined me for all other shells. bash now tastes like cardboard.

 Our fork is now in Open Beta, and we'd like to invite you to try it out!
 We are interested in feedback and bug reports.

 We'd also like to start a discussion about our changes and whether/how to
 incorporate them into fish trunk (which we would very much like to do). Our
 changes are transformative and impact nearly every aspect of fish's code
 base, so it is not to be undertaken lightly. But our changes are also very
 compelling from the perspectives of both users and maintainers, and our
 months of living-on have given us a lot of confidence in them. Our branch
 is not only the best fish ever made; we think it's the best POSIX command
 line shell, period.

 Here's how to get it!

  Main page: http://ridiculousfish.com/shell/
  Open beta page: http://ridiculousfish.com/shell/beta.html
  Release notes: http://ridiculousfish.com/shell/release_notes.html
  Gitorious page:
 https://gitorious.org/~ridiculousfish/fish-shell/fishfish

 The relevant git branch is fish_fish.

 Please share your thoughts, reactions, rants, raves, and bug reports on
 this list. If all goes well, we'll announce the Open Beta more widely in
 the upcoming week.

 A few teaser improvements (for a longer list, see the Release Notes
 above):

 - Autosuggestions (think URL fields in browsers)
 - 256 color support
 - Web-based configuration
 - Syntax highlighting is now multithreaded, so it doesn't cause
 stuttering typing on slow disks / filesystems
 - Overall performance is way better
 - It's all in (sane) C++. No more string_buffer_t, array_list_t, or
 hash_table_t, and no more halloc!



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Re: [Fish-users] Announcing Open Beta for our fancy new fish fork

2012-05-30 Thread Siteshwar
Hi all,

You can use either right arrow or Ctrl + F to complete autosuggestion.

Regards,
Siteshwar

On 5/30/12, Stestagg stest...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thank you, I was wondering the same thing.

 Running it on osx and ubuntu, and it /does/ scream along!

 Steve

 On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 3:46 PM, David Frascone d...@frascone.com wrote:

 Found the hotkey -- right arrow :)

 -Dave


 On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 8:45 AM, David Frascone d...@frascone.com
 wrote:

 The autosuggestions take a bit to get used to . . . they're kind of
 distracting.  BUT:  They do guess correctly a lot -- which is nice.

 The only thing I don't like so far is when it guesses almost right, the
 tab acts funny.  For example:

 If you are in a directory with five entries:  1234 1235 1236 1237 and
 you
 type cd, it will autocomplete:

 cd 1236/

 With the cursor on the one.  If you then hit tab, the cursor will move
 to
 123 so that you can choose which one to use.  However, when I see the dir
 I
 want, for example, 1236, and hit enter, it instead tries to use cd 123
 as
 the completion.

 Maybe I'm just doing it wrong . . . but, other than that, the
 suggestions
 rock -- I'm sure there's a hotkey to say yes -- I just haven't found
 it
 yet!

 -Dave

 On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Jan Kanis jan.c...@jankanis.nl wrote:

 Great to hear this! I already had a look at your C++ branch on
 gitorious
 some time ago and I was wondering what you were planning to do with it.
 I'll certainly give it a try.

 On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:43 AM, ridiculous_fish 
 corydo...@ridiculousfish.com wrote:

 Hello fellow fish fans! I am ridiculous_fish, and I come bearing
 lungfuls of new life!

 Over the past year, I and my partner Siteshwar have been working on a
 fish fork. We've been modernizing fish's codebase, while adding some
 truly
 compelling features and improving performance. We've been living on
 this
 fork for months, and we think it's _awesome_. Compared to stock fish,
 our
 branch is noticeably faster and easier to maintain, and its new
 features
 have ruined me for all other shells. bash now tastes like cardboard.

 Our fork is now in Open Beta, and we'd like to invite you to try it
 out! We are interested in feedback and bug reports.

 We'd also like to start a discussion about our changes and whether/how
 to incorporate them into fish trunk (which we would very much like to
 do).
 Our changes are transformative and impact nearly every aspect of
 fish's
 code base, so it is not to be undertaken lightly. But our changes are
 also
 very compelling from the perspectives of both users and maintainers,
 and
 our months of living-on have given us a lot of confidence in them. Our
 branch is not only the best fish ever made; we think it's the best
 POSIX
 command line shell, period.

 Here's how to get it!

  Main page: http://ridiculousfish.com/shell/
  Open beta page: http://ridiculousfish.com/shell/beta.html
  Release notes: http://ridiculousfish.com/shell/release_notes.html
  Gitorious page:
 https://gitorious.org/~ridiculousfish/fish-shell/fishfish

 The relevant git branch is fish_fish.

 Please share your thoughts, reactions, rants, raves, and bug reports
 on
 this list. If all goes well, we'll announce the Open Beta more widely
 in
 the upcoming week.

 A few teaser improvements (for a longer list, see the Release Notes
 above):

 - Autosuggestions (think URL fields in browsers)
 - 256 color support
 - Web-based configuration
 - Syntax highlighting is now multithreaded, so it doesn't cause
 stuttering typing on slow disks / filesystems
 - Overall performance is way better
 - It's all in (sane) C++. No more string_buffer_t, array_list_t, or
 hash_table_t, and no more halloc!



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Re: [Fish-users] Announcing Open Beta for our fancy new fish fork

2012-05-30 Thread Peter Flood
For anyone who hasn't yet, run `fish_config` on a system with a web 
browser. Nice.


The osx installer seems to have wiped out my previous version of fish 
that was in /usr/local/bin/fish, would be good if it could just move it 
aside if it exists already (or maybe it did and I just can't find it).


Additionally, I'd like to be able to change the autosuggestions hotkey 
(right arrow) to something else. The docs say ' Left and right moves one 
character left or right' but doesn't mention anything about autocomplete.



On 30/05/2012 10:43, ridiculous_fish wrote:

Hello fellow fish fans! I am ridiculous_fish, and I come bearing lungfuls of 
new life!

Over the past year, I and my partner Siteshwar have been working on a fish 
fork. We've been modernizing fish's codebase, while adding some truly 
compelling features and improving performance. We've been living on this fork 
for months, and we think it's _awesome_. Compared to stock fish, our branch is 
noticeably faster and easier to maintain, and its new features have ruined me 
for all other shells. bash now tastes like cardboard.

Our fork is now in Open Beta, and we'd like to invite you to try it out! We are 
interested in feedback and bug reports.

We'd also like to start a discussion about our changes and whether/how to 
incorporate them into fish trunk (which we would very much like to do). Our 
changes are transformative and impact nearly every aspect of fish's code base, 
so it is not to be undertaken lightly. But our changes are also very compelling 
from the perspectives of both users and maintainers, and our months of 
living-on have given us a lot of confidence in them. Our branch is not only the 
best fish ever made; we think it's the best POSIX command line shell, period.

Here's how to get it!

   Main page: http://ridiculousfish.com/shell/
   Open beta page: http://ridiculousfish.com/shell/beta.html
   Release notes: http://ridiculousfish.com/shell/release_notes.html
   Gitorious page: https://gitorious.org/~ridiculousfish/fish-shell/fishfish

The relevant git branch is fish_fish.

Please share your thoughts, reactions, rants, raves, and bug reports on this 
list. If all goes well, we'll announce the Open Beta more widely in the 
upcoming week.

A few teaser improvements (for a longer list, see the Release Notes above):

- Autosuggestions (think URL fields in browsers)
- 256 color support
- Web-based configuration
- Syntax highlighting is now multithreaded, so it doesn't cause stuttering 
typing on slow disks / filesystems
- Overall performance is way better
- It's all in (sane) C++. No more string_buffer_t, array_list_t, or 
hash_table_t, and no more halloc!


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Re: [Fish-users] Announcing Open Beta for our fancy new fish fork

2012-05-30 Thread David Frascone
I built from source and did ./configure --prefix=/usr to avoid conflict
with my old fish in /usr/local.

On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Peter Flood i...@whywouldwe.com wrote:

  For anyone who hasn't yet, run `fish_config` on a system with a web
 browser. Nice.

 The osx installer seems to have wiped out my previous version of fish that
 was in /usr/local/bin/fish, would be good if it could just move it aside if
 it exists already (or maybe it did and I just can't find it).

 Additionally, I'd like to be able to change the autosuggestions hotkey
 (right arrow) to something else. The docs say ' Left and right moves one
 character left or right' but doesn't mention anything about autocomplete.



 On 30/05/2012 10:43, ridiculous_fish wrote:

 Hello fellow fish fans! I am ridiculous_fish, and I come bearing lungfuls of 
 new life!

 Over the past year, I and my partner Siteshwar have been working on a fish 
 fork. We've been modernizing fish's codebase, while adding some truly 
 compelling features and improving performance. We've been living on this fork 
 for months, and we think it's _awesome_. Compared to stock fish, our branch 
 is noticeably faster and easier to maintain, and its new features have ruined 
 me for all other shells. bash now tastes like cardboard.

 Our fork is now in Open Beta, and we'd like to invite you to try it out! We 
 are interested in feedback and bug reports.

 We'd also like to start a discussion about our changes and whether/how to 
 incorporate them into fish trunk (which we would very much like to do). Our 
 changes are transformative and impact nearly every aspect of fish's code 
 base, so it is not to be undertaken lightly. But our changes are also very 
 compelling from the perspectives of both users and maintainers, and our 
 months of living-on have given us a lot of confidence in them. Our branch is 
 not only the best fish ever made; we think it's the best POSIX command line 
 shell, period.

 Here's how to get it!

   Main page: http://ridiculousfish.com/shell/
   Open beta page: http://ridiculousfish.com/shell/beta.html
   Release notes: http://ridiculousfish.com/shell/release_notes.html
   Gitorious page: https://gitorious.org/~ridiculousfish/fish-shell/fishfish

 The relevant git branch is fish_fish.

 Please share your thoughts, reactions, rants, raves, and bug reports on this 
 list. If all goes well, we'll announce the Open Beta more widely in the 
 upcoming week.

 A few teaser improvements (for a longer list, see the Release Notes above):

 - Autosuggestions (think URL fields in browsers)
 - 256 color support
 - Web-based configuration
 - Syntax highlighting is now multithreaded, so it doesn't cause stuttering 
 typing on slow disks / filesystems
 - Overall performance is way better
 - It's all in (sane) C++. No more string_buffer_t, array_list_t, or 
 hash_table_t, and no more halloc!


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Re: [Fish-users] Announcing Open Beta for our fancy new fish fork

2012-05-30 Thread SanskritFritz
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 8:21 PM, Axel Liljencrantz
liljencra...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi all.

 I'm Axel, the original fish creator. I've been mostly AWOL for nearly half
 a decade, including not replying to a few private emails about
 maintainership. Sorry about that. I think it's fair to say I've lost the
 moral rights of the fish project.

 I'd like to publically state that

 * I don't currently plan on returning to active fish development,
 * I'd love for the fish project to continue and
 * needless forking hurts projects.


Wow, welcome back Axel. Thank you for fish, it has been my primary shell
for years now.
It is exciting to see fish coming alive again.
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Re: [Fish-users] Announcing Open Beta for our fancy new fish fork

2012-05-30 Thread SanskritFritz
One small observation: careful when you install fishfish over fish and want
to go back to fish again, fish_history will be unusable due to the
different format fishfish uses.
OP, maybe considering using a different file name would not hurt.
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