Re: [SPAM?] RE: [Flashcoders] XPcomponents set

2006-06-29 Thread Yves Peckstadt
Thanks for the information all. The same goes for us ofcourse, if we knew ahead of time that the components are required to be used in the framework we would have never bought them. One could say it's wrong of us to assume they'll just work stand-alone but if the author doesn't mention anything

RE: [SPAM?] RE: [Flashcoders] XPcomponents set

2006-06-29 Thread Steven Sacks | BLITZ
Maybe a scam is a harsh word ... but you don't just forget to mention such a huge detail by accident. I sold you a car that looks fairly new. It will get you from point A to point B. I forgot to mention that it's not street legal and it runs on leaded fuel. What's the word for that?

Re: [SPAM?] RE: [Flashcoders] XPcomponents set

2006-06-29 Thread Scott Hyndman
list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] XPcomponents set What is not entirely clear on the website is that the XPComponents are NOT designed to be used as standalone components in YOUR application, but are meant to be used when you build applications using the DEVELOPERS' EXACT framework. We paid

RE: [SPAM?] RE: [Flashcoders] XPcomponents set

2006-06-29 Thread Steven Sacks | BLITZ
I don't think it's a scam. I gave them a call when I was working with them and they were amazingly helpful and polite. I think it's 3 guys coding a component framework, and one that's not too shabby. Sure, it doesn't work with MM's framework, but who cares? V2 is garbage anyways. It's not

Re: [SPAM?] RE: [Flashcoders] XPcomponents set

2006-06-29 Thread Scott Hyndman
I don't see why that matters exactly? Scott On 29/06/06, Steven Sacks | BLITZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think it's a scam. I gave them a call when I was working with them and they were amazingly helpful and polite. I think it's 3 guys coding a component framework, and one that's not

Re: [SPAM?] RE: [Flashcoders] XPcomponents set

2006-06-29 Thread Jim Kremens
that pretty much no one would buy their components if they knew ahead of time about this restriction I think that's false. There are lots of people who are interested in using frameworks and using them completely. Making a viable frmaework that will integrate nicely with everyone in the

Re: [SPAM?] RE: [Flashcoders] XPcomponents set

2006-06-29 Thread Michael Stuhr
Steven Sacks | BLITZ schrieb: I don't think it's a scam. I gave them a call when I was working with them and they were amazingly helpful and polite. I think it's 3 guys coding a component framework, and one that's not too shabby. Sure, it doesn't work with MM's framework, but who cares? V2 is

RE: [SPAM?] RE: [Flashcoders] XPcomponents set

2006-06-29 Thread Steven Sacks | BLITZ
I think that's false. There are lots of people who are interested in using frameworks and using them completely. We have to agree to disagree on this one. There are always tradeoffs: adopt the framework, you give some things up, but you get others. Depending on their needs, some people

RE: [SPAM?] RE: [Flashcoders] XPcomponents set

2006-06-29 Thread Steven Sacks | BLITZ
MM did that as well, did you say scam then too ? With the exception of the DRK series of components, MM's components came free with Flash. And I don't recall any MM components that caused other things to break in your application. The components themselves were buggy and certain components

Re: RE: [SPAM?] RE: [Flashcoders] XPcomponents set

2006-06-29 Thread John Mark Hawley
To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: RE: [SPAM?] RE: [Flashcoders] XPcomponents set MM did that as well, did you say scam then too ? With the exception of the DRK series of components, MM's components came free with Flash. And I don't recall any MM components

Re: RE: [SPAM?] RE: [Flashcoders] XPcomponents set

2006-06-29 Thread Jim Kremens
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/06/29 Thu PM 02:39:22 CDT To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: RE: [SPAM?] RE: [Flashcoders] XPcomponents set MM did that as well, did you say scam then too ? With the exception of the DRK series of components, MM's components

Re: RE: [SPAM?] RE: [Flashcoders] XPcomponents set

2006-06-29 Thread Scott Hyndman
Thinking about it again, I think you're right on one point. There's certainly no reason that using their framework should break native Flash code. That's just sloppy. But, as it is a framework, I think it's totally legit that it makes you do certain things certain ways. I wouldn't say

RE: RE: [SPAM?] RE: [Flashcoders] XPcomponents set

2006-06-29 Thread Steven Sacks | BLITZ
Case in point - to use Rails, you must do things inn VERY specific ways. Rails is all about convention, and if you don't adhere to its conventions, you will be boned. Not true. For example, one of the conventions Rails uses to make things easier is their naming conventions, specifically,

RE: [Flashcoders] XPcomponents set

2006-06-28 Thread Steven Sacks | BLITZ
What is not entirely clear on the website is that the XPComponents are NOT designed to be used as standalone components in YOUR application, but are meant to be used when you build applications using the DEVELOPERS' EXACT framework. We paid for the components but found out very quickly that they

Re: [Flashcoders] XPcomponents set

2006-06-28 Thread Jim Kremens
The Bit-101 components are also excellent for the same reasons. Jim Kremens On 6/28/06, Steven Sacks | BLITZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is not entirely clear on the website is that the XPComponents are NOT designed to be used as standalone components in YOUR application, but are meant to

RE: [Flashcoders] XPcomponents set

2006-06-28 Thread Ville Walveranta
To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] XPcomponents set What is not entirely clear on the website is that the XPComponents are NOT designed to be used as standalone components in YOUR application, but are meant to be used when you build applications using the DEVELOPERS' EXACT framework. We

RE: [SPAM?] RE: [Flashcoders] XPcomponents set

2006-06-28 Thread Steven Sacks | BLITZ
Are the Ghostwire components still being developed further or added to? Ville -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Sacks | BLITZ Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 12:01 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] XPcomponents