Re: [Flashcoders] FLASH+AIR+ASP

2008-03-27 Thread Sidney de Koning
Do you mean that you need to login through HTACCESS? (the browser  
dialog box) or through an ASP file?


If its HTACCESS then, with AIR, you can get past it in AIR. Tell me  
which one is of use and i'll try to help.


Cheers,

Sid

On Mar 26, 2008, at 11:41 PM, Helmut Granda wrote:


   I have an application that was created for the browser
(Flash+ASP)and runs under a secure server (https) and everything works
great. Now there is an attenpt to move the application to stand  
alone with
AIR but it seems like because it is under a secure server I am  
having issues

accessing the server.

   Basically this is what happens:

   Flash - ask to ASP for stuff
   ASP - give back Flash STUFF
   FLASH - Display the stuff ASP Provided

   Using AIR as a wrapper Im not sure how still being able to  
hit the
server without having the user to log in. Oh yeah I forgot to  
mention that
the user has to login throuh the browser so do I need to create a  
page for

the user to login before deploying my application?

   TIA
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Re: [Flashcoders] How to determine value of source code

2008-03-27 Thread Jiri Heitlager
Thank you all for replying. It really made things clearier and some of 
the points made I really didn't think of yet, for instance the code 
libs. I really didnt take the time to develop those into consideration.


Seems like a hell of a job to value code, I prefer coding :0

Again thanks,

Jiri

Ian Thomas wrote:

I'd be very careful how you proceed with this, but at the end of the
day it's your own judgement.

It also rather depends on how much of what you've written for the
client is solely for that client - you will never reuse it - or if
you're depending on code libraries you've previously developed and
plan to continue on developing.

With our projects, the price to develop the project is assuming our
(extensive) code libraries already exist. So if a client asks for
source code, I'll tend to quote them for the project development time
+ all the time to (re)develop all those libraries (and associated
testing etc.). And I'll explain the reasons behind it.

At that point they look at the numbers, look uncomfortable, and say
'okay, well, maybe we don't want the source code, then.'

:-)

Ian

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Jiri Heitlager
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello,


 a client of mine has requested to buy the source code of a project I did
 for them. I havent really sold any source code yet, so I was wondering
 if somebody maybe could give me some tips, because I really dont know
 how to value source code?

 I was thinking in the line of a percentage of the total project cost,
 something like 45%??

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Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3

2008-03-27 Thread Pedro Kostelec
Sorry, my fault, sometimes I forgot I am on an international list.
You would cry if you see a paycheck of a programmer from a third-world
country ;)

I don't get it. I am not even in university so i am not employed and i have
no idea what this international list means??
I am curious,
Pedro


On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Wagner Amaral [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Steven Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

   We are programmers, we can't afford Porsches! Better change that
   to bike and skate...
 
  You're joking, right?  Talented Flash developers are in extremely high
  demand right now.  Every day I get 3-5 emails from recruiters or
 companies.
   It's a seller's market and people are paying top dollar for AS3 and
 Flex
  devs.  Flash and Flex jobs are paying $75-$150/hr.  That's $150,000 -
  $300,000 a year.  If you can't afford a Porsche, you need to find a new
 job
  or grow a pair and ask for a raise.
 
  That being said, I don't own a Porsche because I've got better things to
  do with my money.  ;)
 


 Sorry, my fault, sometimes I forgot I am on an international list.
 You would cry if you see a paycheck of a programmer from a third-world
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Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3

2008-03-27 Thread Paul Andrews
- Original Message - 
From: Pedro Kostelec [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Flash Coders List flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3



Sorry, my fault, sometimes I forgot I am on an international list.
You would cry if you see a paycheck of a programmer from a third-world
country ;)

I don't get it. I am not even in university so i am not employed and i 
have

no idea what this international list means??


People reading and posting to the list are from all over the world - 
international - rather than just being in the US. In that respect you can't 
assume that worldwide flash developers are all driving in shiny new 
Porsches.


Paul



I am curious,
Pedro


On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Wagner Amaral [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Steven Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

  We are programmers, we can't afford Porsches! Better change that
  to bike and skate...

 You're joking, right?  Talented Flash developers are in extremely high
 demand right now.  Every day I get 3-5 emails from recruiters or
companies.
  It's a seller's market and people are paying top dollar for AS3 and
Flex
 devs.  Flash and Flex jobs are paying $75-$150/hr.  That's $150,000 -
 $300,000 a year.  If you can't afford a Porsche, you need to find a new
job
 or grow a pair and ask for a raise.

 That being said, I don't own a Porsche because I've got better things 
 to

 do with my money.  ;)



Sorry, my fault, sometimes I forgot I am on an international list.
You would cry if you see a paycheck of a programmer from a third-world
country ;)
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Re: [Flashcoders] ot : Flex RIA running on multiple servers

2008-03-27 Thread Jon Bradley


On Mar 26, 2008, at 8:34 PM, artur wrote:


the CMS webservice i want to build will be done in FLEX / AMF / MySQL.

and i want to make sure that it can scale and be redundant.


Ok but that doesn't have anything to do with Flex. Flex is just a  
different application to build an SWF file. It is only the front-end  
solution.


Flex SWF == Flash SWF, plus a whole bunch of code for handling the  
UI. The Flex SDK is like using a framework (vegas, arp, etc.) for  
Flash, but on crack.


If you're talking about your server solution scaling and being  
redundant, you need to be way more concerned with other things.  
You'll most likely need some type of J2EE server.


Your best bet is to find a content management system that utilizes  
JSR-170 (Java Content Repository) and can use MySQL or PostgresSQL  
(or even oracle) for serious scalability and capability to handle  
clustering, etc.


Check Alfresco.com as a nice, forward looking solution for that (it's  
open source and free, if you don't need support). You'll still need  
to write the API on the server with Java to allow the AMF library  
(GraniteDS or BlazeDS) to speak with the CMS services.Drupal or  
DSpace might be additional options but I don't know how they  
scalability and redundancy.


There is also an open source project that wasn't started too long  
ago: Igenko  The goal of this project is to act as a JSR-170 (with  
Apache Jackrabbit) with data services (GraniteDS at the moment). the  
link is: code.google.com/p/igenko


Either way, your issue is server-side, not Flex/Flash.

- jon


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Re: [Flashcoders] JSFL Add a new font

2008-03-27 Thread Leon
And no others way?
Ex: A low-level extension for flash that extends JSFL ?



2008/3/25, Michael Randolph [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I wish...no way to do this afaik


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 Subject: [Flashcoders] JSFL Add a new font

 Hello FlashCoders,

 With a JSFL
 1 - I want to : in an opened document.
 2 - Create a new Font Symbol in my opened document library.
 3 - Set his parameters.

 Is it possible !?

 Leon

 /*
 var lib = fl.getDocumentDOM().library;
 lib.addNewItem('FontItem');
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[Flashcoders] Image colorization / contrast adjusting

2008-03-27 Thread Alistair Colling
Hello, I would like to know if it is possible for flash to process a  
regular photograph to produce a pop-arty image like this:


http://www.popartuk.com/g/l/lgpo7028+pop-art-andy-warhol-1962-che- 
guevara-poster.jpg


The user would upload their photograph, I guess I would then need  
flash to convert it to black and white add some sort of severe  
contrast so I get 3 distinct colours and then separate these sections  
so I can colour them with bright colours.


I am not sure if this is possible or the best way to go about this.  
If someone could let me know if this would be possible to do and  
maybe give me some direction as to how to do it that would be great.



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Re: [Flashcoders] ot : Flex RIA running on multiple servers

2008-03-27 Thread Cutter (FlashRelated)
You could also use Adobe ColdFusion, which has native AMF support 
built-in, as well as a gateway for interacting with Flex apps. Then you 
have the power of a J2EE app server, the agility of RAD development with 
ColdFusion and Flex, plus the scalability of ColdFusion, with it's 
clustering support, etc.


Yes, the server license costs, but when you factor in the support, the 
community information (which is extreme), and the time savings offered 
by programming in CFML over Java (or something else), plus the bonus of 
the native communication channels that Adobe has built into the two 
products, it really is a major win-win scenario.


Steve Cutter Blades
Adobe Certified Professional
Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
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Jon Bradley wrote:


On Mar 26, 2008, at 8:34 PM, artur wrote:


the CMS webservice i want to build will be done in FLEX / AMF / MySQL.

and i want to make sure that it can scale and be redundant.


Ok but that doesn't have anything to do with Flex. Flex is just a 
different application to build an SWF file. It is only the front-end 
solution.


Flex SWF == Flash SWF, plus a whole bunch of code for handling the UI. 
The Flex SDK is like using a framework (vegas, arp, etc.) for Flash, but 
on crack.


If you're talking about your server solution scaling and being 
redundant, you need to be way more concerned with other things. You'll 
most likely need some type of J2EE server.


Your best bet is to find a content management system that utilizes 
JSR-170 (Java Content Repository) and can use MySQL or PostgresSQL (or 
even oracle) for serious scalability and capability to handle 
clustering, etc.


Check Alfresco.com as a nice, forward looking solution for that (it's 
open source and free, if you don't need support). You'll still need to 
write the API on the server with Java to allow the AMF library 
(GraniteDS or BlazeDS) to speak with the CMS services.Drupal or DSpace 
might be additional options but I don't know how they scalability and 
redundancy.


There is also an open source project that wasn't started too long ago: 
Igenko  The goal of this project is to act as a JSR-170 (with Apache 
Jackrabbit) with data services (GraniteDS at the moment). the link is: 
code.google.com/p/igenko


Either way, your issue is server-side, not Flex/Flash.

- jon


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Re: [Flashcoders] Variable scope within for loops: reusing iteratorvariables

2008-03-27 Thread Omar Fouad
Try this:

for(var i:int; i10; i++) {
   //some crap here
}

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 8:49 PM, Kerry Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 jonathan howe wrote:

  Hmm... it is within a class... and that's when I'm getting the warnings.
 Or
  did you mean just in general to reiterate that variables are locally
 scoped
  to functions and classes and not to for loops?

 If you declare a variable within a function, its scope is limited to that
 function. It really doesn't relate to where in the function you use it (or
 declare it). In my example, this:

 function doSomething
 {
   var i:int;
   for(i=0;i++;i10)
   {
   }
 }

 Is functionally identical to this:

 function doSomething
 {
   for(var i:int =0;i++;i10)
   {
   }
 }

 You're correct that AS3 is more strict about these sorts of things than
 AS2.
 AS2 was really just syntactic sugar for AS1, and wasn't strict at all.

 Cordially,

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Re: [Flashcoders] Variable scope within for loops: reusing iteratorvariables

2008-03-27 Thread Omar Fouad
I mean inserting var i:int instead of declaring it outside the loop.

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Omar Fouad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Try this:

 for(var i:int; i10; i++) {
//some crap here

 }

 On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 8:49 PM, Kerry Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  jonathan howe wrote:
 
   Hmm... it is within a class... and that's when I'm getting the
  warnings.
  Or
   did you mean just in general to reiterate that variables are locally
  scoped
   to functions and classes and not to for loops?
 
  If you declare a variable within a function, its scope is limited to
  that
  function. It really doesn't relate to where in the function you use it
  (or
  declare it). In my example, this:
 
  function doSomething
  {
var i:int;
for(i=0;i++;i10)
{
}
  }
 
  Is functionally identical to this:
 
  function doSomething
  {
for(var i:int =0;i++;i10)
{
}
  }
 
  You're correct that AS3 is more strict about these sorts of things than
  AS2.
  AS2 was really just syntactic sugar for AS1, and wasn't strict at all.
 
  Cordially,
 
  Kerry Thompson
 
 
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Re: [Flashcoders] Image colorization / contrast adjusting

2008-03-27 Thread Jon Bradley


On Mar 27, 2008, at 7:37 AM, Alistair Colling wrote:

Hello, I would like to know if it is possible for flash to process  
a regular photograph to produce a pop-arty image like this:


http://www.popartuk.com/g/l/lgpo7028+pop-art-andy-warhol-1962-che- 
guevara-poster.jpg


A little Warhol-style transformation huh?

I am not sure if this is possible or the best way to go about this.  
If someone could let me know if this would be possible to do and  
maybe give me some direction as to how to do it that would be great.


100% possible.

Check out BitmapData.paletteMap() as one option. Additionally, you  
could use BitmapData.threshold() to get different value areas,  
colorize them and recombine them.


Lots of options.

cheers,

jon
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Re: [Flashcoders] ot : Flex RIA running on multiple servers

2008-03-27 Thread Jon Bradley


On Mar 27, 2008, at 9:07 AM, Cutter (FlashRelated) wrote:

You could also use Adobe ColdFusion, which has native AMF support  
built-in, as well as a gateway for interacting with Flex apps. Then  
you have the power of a J2EE app server, the agility of RAD  
development with ColdFusion and Flex, plus the scalability of  
ColdFusion, with it's clustering support, etc.


Great addition to the discussion. There are a lot of options out there.

cheers,

jon

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[Flashcoders] AMFPHP vs RubyAMF

2008-03-27 Thread artur
is there a major difference in terms of performance, stability,  and 
flexibility?


im about to built an RIA using Flex  MySQL..
but havent decided on the middleware yet.

whats the verdict?

also whats the learning curve on it for devs who have experience with 
Java, JSP, ASP, PHP



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Re: [Flashcoders] world clock - revisited

2008-03-27 Thread Corban Baxter
thats great! Marcelo! sorry about the code confusion. :)  do you have
any examples of how you are implementing this? I think i have put my
clocks together ok... i'd kinda like to see how you are using it. do
you mind?

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 6:08 PM, Marcelo Volmaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I did that code :)

  You have problems because the US changed the DST policy. Now it starts at
  SECOND SUNDAY of MARCH
   and ends at FIRST SUNDAY of NOVEMBER.

  So, USADLS now should be (2, 0, 3, 1, 0, 11);

  I don't know if the other policies changed too.

  This is the latest table:
  OLD_USADST: new Dst(LAST, SUNDAY, OCTOBER, FIRST, SUNDAY, APRIL),
  NEW_USADST: new Dst(FIRST, SUNDAY, NOVEMBER, SECOND, SUNDAY, MARCH),
  EU_DST: new Dst(LAST, SUNDAY, OCTOBER, LAST, SUNDAY, MARCH),
  CH_DST: new Dst(SECOND, SATURDAY, MARCH, SECOND, SATURDAY, OCTOBER),
  OCBR_DST: new Dst(SECOND, SUNDAY, FEBRUARY, FIRST, SUNDAY, NOVEMBER),
  NCBR_DST: new Dst(LAST, SUNDAY, FEBRUARY, FIRST, SUNDAY, NOVEMBER),
  MV_DST: new Dst(SECOND, SUNDAY, MARCH, FIRST, SUNDAY, OCTOBER),
  MA_DST: new Dst(LAST, SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER, LAST, SUNDAY, MARCH),
  JD_DST: new Dst(LAST, FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER, LAST, THURSDAY, MARCH),
  ME_DST: new Dst(LAST, SATURDAY, OCTOBER, LAST, SUNDAY, MARCH),
  EG_DST: new Dst(LAST, THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER, LAST, THURSDAY, APRIL),
  IS_DST: new Dst(THIRD, SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER, LAST, FRIDAY, MARCH),
  NA_DST: new Dst(FIRST, SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER, FIRST, SUNDAY, APRIL),
  AR_DST: new Dst(FIRST, SUNDAY, OCTOBER, FIRST, SUNDAY, APRIL),
  IR_DST: new Dst(FOURTH, TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER, FIRST, SUNDAY, MARCH),
  AU_DST: new Dst(LAST, SUNDAY, MARCH, LAST, SUNDAY, OCTOBER),
  TA_DST: new Dst(LAST, SUNDAY, MARCH, FIRST, SUNDAY, OCTOBER),
  NZ_DST: new Dst(THIRD, SUNDAY, MARCH, FIRST, SUNDAY, OCTOBER)

  There are a couple of countries that do not have a programatic DST but
  moves from year to year.

  Below is the XML I use to get the information I need:

  Attributes:
  n = name of the timezone
  b = time offset (in minutes)
  d = same, but in daylight

  f and l = used to identify first and last nodes. Any year before f will
  use the information in f for the calcs, any year after l will use the
  information in l.

  dst = the dst information from above.
  shh, ehh: Start hour and End hour where the change occurs (so, it is not
  always at 00:00).

  If a year does not has a DST information, it must has the information
  regarding the start and end date (sd = start day, sm = start month, ed =
  end day, em = end month). If no information is provided (nor DST nor
  Start/End dates), there are no DST for that specific year.

  Also, remember that countries/timezones that have DST may or may not apply
  the policy (example: Check GreenLand in the TimeZone control pannel in
  Windows, you have an option to adjust for DST or not).

  Hope this helps

  tzinfo
 tz n=(GMT-12:00) International Date Line West b=720/
 tz n=(GMT-11:00) Midway Island, Samoa b=660/
 tz n=(GMT-10:00) Hawaii b=600/
 tz n=(GMT-09:00) Alaska b=540 d=480
 y f=2006 dst=OLD_USADST shh=2 ehh=2/
 y l=2007 dst=NEW_USADST shh=2 ehh=2/
 /tz
 tz n=(GMT-08:00) Pacific Time (US amp; Canada) b=480 d=420
 y f=2006 dst=OLD_USADST shh=2 ehh=2/
 y l=2007 dst=NEW_USADST shh=2 ehh=2/
 /tz
 tz n=(GMT-08:00) Tijuana, Baja California b=480 d=420
 y dst=OLD_USADST shh=2 ehh=2/
 /tz
 tz n=(GMT-07:00) Arizona b=420/
 tz n=(GMT-07:00) Chihuahua, La Paz, Mazatlan b=420 d=360
 y dst=OLD_USADST shh=2 ehh=2/
 /tz
 tz n=(GMT-07:00) Mountain Time (US amp; Canada) b=420 d=360
 y f=2006 dst=OLD_USADST shh=2 ehh=2/
 y l=2007 dst=NEW_USADST shh=2 ehh=2/
 /tz
 tz n=(GMT-06:00) Central America b=360/
 tz n=(GMT-06:00) Central Time (US amp; Canada) b=360 d=300
 y f=2006 dst=OLD_USADST shh=2 ehh=2/
 y l=2007 dst=NEW_USADST shh=2 ehh=2/
 /tz
 tz n=(GMT-06:00) Guadalajara, Mexico City, Monterrey b=360 
 d=300
 y dst=OLD_USADST shh=2 ehh=2/
 /tz
 tz n=(GMT-06:00) Saskatchewan b=360/
 tz n=(GMT-05:00) Bogota, Lima, Quito, Rio Branco b=300/
 tz n=(GMT-05:00) Eastern Time (US amp; Canada) b=300 d=240
 y f=2006 dst=OLD_USADST shh=2 ehh=2/
 y l=2007 dst=NEW_USADST shh=2 ehh=2/
 /tz
 tz n=(GMT-05:00) Indiana (East) b=300/
 tz n=(GMT-04:00) Atlantic Time (Canada) b=240 d=180
 y f=2006 dst=OLD_USADST shh=2 ehh=2/
 y l=2007 dst=NEW_USADST shh=2 ehh=2/
 /tz
 tz n=(GMT-04:00) Caracas, La Paz b=240/
 tz n=(GMT-04:00) Manaus b=240 d=180
 y f=2006 dst=OCBR_DST shh=2/
 y l=2007 dst=NCBR_DST/
 /tz
 tz n=(GMT-04:00) Santiago 

Re: [Flashcoders] FLASH+AIR+ASP

2008-03-27 Thread Helmut Granda
You have to login through a aspx form(no httaccess). basically the
application lives in the extranet so you have to login to access any
documents on that specific area. It works well on the browser because before
accessing the application you have to login and once you are in the process
continues. But as a stand-alone application it seems to be a whole different
monster

start()
if user is not logged in
ask for login info()
else
go to the app()
end()

thanks for your input

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 3:44 AM, Sidney de Koning [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Do you mean that you need to login through HTACCESS? (the browser
 dialog box) or through an ASP file?

 If its HTACCESS then, with AIR, you can get past it in AIR. Tell me
 which one is of use and i'll try to help.

 Cheers,

 Sid

 On Mar 26, 2008, at 11:41 PM, Helmut Granda wrote:

 I have an application that was created for the browser
  (Flash+ASP)and runs under a secure server (https) and everything works
  great. Now there is an attenpt to move the application to stand
  alone with
  AIR but it seems like because it is under a secure server I am
  having issues
  accessing the server.
 
 Basically this is what happens:
 
 Flash - ask to ASP for stuff
 ASP - give back Flash STUFF
 FLASH - Display the stuff ASP Provided
 
 Using AIR as a wrapper Im not sure how still being able to
  hit the
  server without having the user to log in. Oh yeah I forgot to
  mention that
  the user has to login throuh the browser so do I need to create a
  page for
  the user to login before deploying my application?
 
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Re: [Flashcoders] world clock - revisited

2008-03-27 Thread Marcelo Volmaro
I can't send code if that's what you need (because it belongs to a client  
app) but on each clock (that are a kind of widget you can place into a  
dashboard) you can select the timezone you want to display in that clock.


The time is simply calculated by performing some math on the Date object:

var d:Date = new Date();
var ct:Number = Number(d)+(d.getTimezoneOffset() * 6); // this makes  
the time be at GMT+0
d.setTime(ct + (selectedTimeZoneOffset * 6)); //this makes the time be  
at the selected Timezone


Where the selectedTimeZoneOffset variable holds the information of the  
b attribute. Then, I use that date to check if I'm in DST I re-do the  
calc, but using the d attribute.


Regards,

On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:05:44 -0300, Corban Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



thats great! Marcelo! sorry about the code confusion. :)  do you have
any examples of how you are implementing this? I think i have put my
clocks together ok... i'd kinda like to see how you are using it. do
you mind?

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 6:08 PM, Marcelo Volmaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

I did that code :)

 You have problems because the US changed the DST policy. Now it starts  
at

 SECOND SUNDAY of MARCH
  and ends at FIRST SUNDAY of NOVEMBER.

 So, USADLS now should be (2, 0, 3, 1, 0, 11);

 I don't know if the other policies changed too.

 This is the latest table:
 OLD_USADST: new Dst(LAST, SUNDAY, OCTOBER, FIRST, SUNDAY, APRIL),
 NEW_USADST: new Dst(FIRST, SUNDAY, NOVEMBER, SECOND, SUNDAY, MARCH),
 EU_DST: new Dst(LAST, SUNDAY, OCTOBER, LAST, SUNDAY, MARCH),
 CH_DST: new Dst(SECOND, SATURDAY, MARCH, SECOND, SATURDAY, OCTOBER),
 OCBR_DST: new Dst(SECOND, SUNDAY, FEBRUARY, FIRST, SUNDAY, NOVEMBER),
 NCBR_DST: new Dst(LAST, SUNDAY, FEBRUARY, FIRST, SUNDAY, NOVEMBER),
 MV_DST: new Dst(SECOND, SUNDAY, MARCH, FIRST, SUNDAY, OCTOBER),
 MA_DST: new Dst(LAST, SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER, LAST, SUNDAY, MARCH),
 JD_DST: new Dst(LAST, FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER, LAST, THURSDAY, MARCH),
 ME_DST: new Dst(LAST, SATURDAY, OCTOBER, LAST, SUNDAY, MARCH),
 EG_DST: new Dst(LAST, THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER, LAST, THURSDAY, APRIL),
 IS_DST: new Dst(THIRD, SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER, LAST, FRIDAY, MARCH),
 NA_DST: new Dst(FIRST, SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER, FIRST, SUNDAY, APRIL),
 AR_DST: new Dst(FIRST, SUNDAY, OCTOBER, FIRST, SUNDAY, APRIL),
 IR_DST: new Dst(FOURTH, TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER, FIRST, SUNDAY, MARCH),
 AU_DST: new Dst(LAST, SUNDAY, MARCH, LAST, SUNDAY, OCTOBER),
 TA_DST: new Dst(LAST, SUNDAY, MARCH, FIRST, SUNDAY, OCTOBER),
 NZ_DST: new Dst(THIRD, SUNDAY, MARCH, FIRST, SUNDAY, OCTOBER)

 There are a couple of countries that do not have a programatic DST  
but

 moves from year to year.

 Below is the XML I use to get the information I need:

 Attributes:
 n = name of the timezone
 b = time offset (in minutes)
 d = same, but in daylight

 f and l = used to identify first and last nodes. Any year before f will
 use the information in f for the calcs, any year after l will use the
 information in l.

 dst = the dst information from above.
 shh, ehh: Start hour and End hour where the change occurs (so, it is  
not

 always at 00:00).

 If a year does not has a DST information, it must has the information
 regarding the start and end date (sd = start day, sm = start month, ed  
=

 end day, em = end month). If no information is provided (nor DST nor
 Start/End dates), there are no DST for that specific year.

 Also, remember that countries/timezones that have DST may or may not  
apply

 the policy (example: Check GreenLand in the TimeZone control pannel in
 Windows, you have an option to adjust for DST or not).

 Hope this helps

 tzinfo
tz n=(GMT-12:00) International Date Line West b=720/
tz n=(GMT-11:00) Midway Island, Samoa b=660/
tz n=(GMT-10:00) Hawaii b=600/
tz n=(GMT-09:00) Alaska b=540 d=480
y f=2006 dst=OLD_USADST shh=2 ehh=2/
y l=2007 dst=NEW_USADST shh=2 ehh=2/
/tz
tz n=(GMT-08:00) Pacific Time (US amp; Canada) b=480  
d=420

y f=2006 dst=OLD_USADST shh=2 ehh=2/
y l=2007 dst=NEW_USADST shh=2 ehh=2/
/tz
tz n=(GMT-08:00) Tijuana, Baja California b=480 d=420
y dst=OLD_USADST shh=2 ehh=2/
/tz
tz n=(GMT-07:00) Arizona b=420/
tz n=(GMT-07:00) Chihuahua, La Paz, Mazatlan b=420 d=360
y dst=OLD_USADST shh=2 ehh=2/
/tz
tz n=(GMT-07:00) Mountain Time (US amp; Canada) b=420  
d=360

y f=2006 dst=OLD_USADST shh=2 ehh=2/
y l=2007 dst=NEW_USADST shh=2 ehh=2/
/tz
tz n=(GMT-06:00) Central America b=360/
tz n=(GMT-06:00) Central Time (US amp; Canada) b=360  
d=300

y f=2006 dst=OLD_USADST shh=2 ehh=2/
y l=2007 dst=NEW_USADST shh=2 ehh=2/
/tz
tz n=(GMT-06:00) Guadalajara, Mexico City, Monterrey b=360  
d=300

y dst=OLD_USADST shh=2 ehh=2/
/tz
tz 

Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3

2008-03-27 Thread laurent
sick. If you want to know for how little money projects are proposed and 
how fast programmer people on earth can work for go there:

http://www.getacoder.com

L


Paul Andrews a écrit :

- Original Message - From: Pedro Kostelec [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Flash Coders List flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3



Sorry, my fault, sometimes I forgot I am on an international list.
You would cry if you see a paycheck of a programmer from a third-world
country ;)

I don't get it. I am not even in university so i am not employed and 
i have

no idea what this international list means??


People reading and posting to the list are from all over the world - 
international - rather than just being in the US. In that respect you 
can't assume that worldwide flash developers are all driving in shiny 
new Porsches.


Paul



I am curious,
Pedro


On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Wagner Amaral [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Steven Sacks 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

wrote:

  We are programmers, we can't afford Porsches! Better change that
  to bike and skate...

 You're joking, right?  Talented Flash developers are in extremely 
high

 demand right now.  Every day I get 3-5 emails from recruiters or
companies.
  It's a seller's market and people are paying top dollar for AS3 and
Flex
 devs.  Flash and Flex jobs are paying $75-$150/hr.  That's $150,000 -
 $300,000 a year.  If you can't afford a Porsche, you need to find 
a new

job
 or grow a pair and ask for a raise.

 That being said, I don't own a Porsche because I've got better 
things  to

 do with my money.  ;)



Sorry, my fault, sometimes I forgot I am on an international list.
You would cry if you see a paycheck of a programmer from a third-world
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RE: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3

2008-03-27 Thread Dwayne Neckles
Yea guys I I know we are off the issue topic.
but its disgusting...

i could be wrong but I feel getacoder and elance all i feel cheapen us as 
coders and flashers.. but this is a digression..



 Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:24:08 +0100
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
 Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3
 
 sick. If you want to know for how little money projects are proposed and 
 how fast programmer people on earth can work for go there:
 http://www.getacoder.com
 
 L
 
 
 Paul Andrews a écrit :
  - Original Message - From: Pedro Kostelec [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Flash Coders List flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
  Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 9:21 AM
  Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3
 
 
  Sorry, my fault, sometimes I forgot I am on an international list.
  You would cry if you see a paycheck of a programmer from a third-world
  country ;)
 
  I don't get it. I am not even in university so i am not employed and 
  i have
  no idea what this international list means??
 
  People reading and posting to the list are from all over the world - 
  international - rather than just being in the US. In that respect you 
  can't assume that worldwide flash developers are all driving in shiny 
  new Porsches.
 
  Paul
 
 
  I am curious,
  Pedro
 
 
  On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Wagner Amaral [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
  On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Steven Sacks 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
We are programmers, we can't afford Porsches! Better change that
to bike and skate...
  
   You're joking, right?  Talented Flash developers are in extremely 
  high
   demand right now.  Every day I get 3-5 emails from recruiters or
  companies.
It's a seller's market and people are paying top dollar for AS3 and
  Flex
   devs.  Flash and Flex jobs are paying $75-$150/hr.  That's $150,000 -
   $300,000 a year.  If you can't afford a Porsche, you need to find 
  a new
  job
   or grow a pair and ask for a raise.
  
   That being said, I don't own a Porsche because I've got better 
  things  to
   do with my money.  ;)
  
 
 
  Sorry, my fault, sometimes I forgot I am on an international list.
  You would cry if you see a paycheck of a programmer from a third-world
  country ;)
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RE: [Flashcoders] Outsourcing (was: Tweening Engines for AS3)

2008-03-27 Thread Kerry Thompson
Laurent wrote:

 sick. If you want to know for how little money projects are proposed and
 how fast programmer people on earth can work for go there:
 http://www.getacoder.com

I found the same thing when I registered with guru.com. There are hundreds of 
jobs with a budget of $500 or less, and precious few worth bidding on. All my 
work comes from contacts--current and former clients, colleagues, and the like.

There is a downside to outsourcing, though. I've worked on two major projects, 
one for Disney and one for Sesame Street, that were initially outsourced 
overseas. Both projects were eventually deemed substandard, and completely 
re-written in-house.

I'm not saying the programmers overseas are substandard--I've worked with some 
fine Chinese and Indian programmers (even some good Europeans ;-) There are so 
many problems with time differences, cultural differences, expectations, and a 
host of other issues that it often costs more to send something overseas.

Cordially,

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Re: [Flashcoders] FLASH+AIR+ASP

2008-03-27 Thread Sidney de Koning
Does you aspx login form have an API? I mean, can you POST of GET  
variables to it and you you get back a value of something to let you  
know you are logged in? If so, you can access it with AIR.


in you example you say 'go to the app()' . Are we talking about AIR or  
a webapplication in the browser (i just need to be sure), because you  
just cannot start an application that is on the users hard drive.


Hope to hear from you,

Sid


On Mar 27, 2008, at 3:33 PM, Helmut Granda wrote:


You have to login through a aspx form(no httaccess). basically the
application lives in the extranet so you have to login to access any
documents on that specific area. It works well on the browser  
because before
accessing the application you have to login and once you are in the  
process
continues. But as a stand-alone application it seems to be a whole  
different

monster

start()
if user is not logged in
ask for login info()
else
go to the app()
end()

thanks for your input

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 3:44 AM, Sidney de Koning [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


wrote:


Do you mean that you need to login through HTACCESS? (the browser
dialog box) or through an ASP file?

If its HTACCESS then, with AIR, you can get past it in AIR. Tell me
which one is of use and i'll try to help.

Cheers,

Sid

On Mar 26, 2008, at 11:41 PM, Helmut Granda wrote:


  I have an application that was created for the browser
(Flash+ASP)and runs under a secure server (https) and everything  
works

great. Now there is an attenpt to move the application to stand
alone with
AIR but it seems like because it is under a secure server I am
having issues
accessing the server.

  Basically this is what happens:

  Flash - ask to ASP for stuff
  ASP - give back Flash STUFF
  FLASH - Display the stuff ASP Provided

  Using AIR as a wrapper Im not sure how still being able to
hit the
server without having the user to log in. Oh yeah I forgot to
mention that
the user has to login throuh the browser so do I need to create a
page for
the user to login before deploying my application?

  TIA
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Re: [Flashcoders] Outsourcing (was: Tweening Engines for AS3)

2008-03-27 Thread Bob Wohl
And that's why I took a steady. I contracted for about 6 years. Got a bit
burnt out on people wanting something for nothing. Oh, and the we'll give
you a project and see how well you do. Then we'll discus payment'... look at
my @[EMAIL PROTECTED]@ portfolio you piece of [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL 
PROTECTED] Also the 'my neighbors son
said he could build this for $200 in half the time'.

I think the best was when I quoted a flash form project and the company
thought it was too much so they outsourced it. Needlesss to say that when
they got the final product and tried to implement it into their existing
application it wasn't compatible and very buggy. Guess you get what you pay
for ;)

B.


On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Kerry Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Laurent wrote:

  sick. If you want to know for how little money projects are proposed and
  how fast programmer people on earth can work for go there:
  http://www.getacoder.com

 I found the same thing when I registered with guru.com. There are hundreds
 of jobs with a budget of $500 or less, and precious few worth bidding on.
 All my work comes from contacts--current and former clients, colleagues, and
 the like.

 There is a downside to outsourcing, though. I've worked on two major
 projects, one for Disney and one for Sesame Street, that were initially
 outsourced overseas. Both projects were eventually deemed substandard, and
 completely re-written in-house.

 I'm not saying the programmers overseas are substandard--I've worked with
 some fine Chinese and Indian programmers (even some good Europeans ;-) There
 are so many problems with time differences, cultural differences,
 expectations, and a host of other issues that it often costs more to send
 something overseas.

 Cordially,

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RE: [Flashcoders] Outsourcing (was: Tweening Engines for AS3)

2008-03-27 Thread Dwayne Neckles
My sentiments exactly.. it's frustrating...thats why  I became full time in NY.



 Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:05:38 -0700
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
 Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Outsourcing (was: Tweening Engines for AS3)
 
 And that's why I took a steady. I contracted for about 6 years. Got a bit
 burnt out on people wanting something for nothing. Oh, and the we'll give
 you a project and see how well you do. Then we'll discus payment'... look at
 my @[EMAIL PROTECTED]@ portfolio you piece of [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL 
 PROTECTED] Also the 'my neighbors son
 said he could build this for $200 in half the time'.
 
 I think the best was when I quoted a flash form project and the company
 thought it was too much so they outsourced it. Needlesss to say that when
 they got the final product and tried to implement it into their existing
 application it wasn't compatible and very buggy. Guess you get what you pay
 for ;)
 
 B.
 
 
 On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Kerry Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  Laurent wrote:
 
   sick. If you want to know for how little money projects are proposed and
   how fast programmer people on earth can work for go there:
   http://www.getacoder.com
 
  I found the same thing when I registered with guru.com. There are hundreds
  of jobs with a budget of $500 or less, and precious few worth bidding on.
  All my work comes from contacts--current and former clients, colleagues, and
  the like.
 
  There is a downside to outsourcing, though. I've worked on two major
  projects, one for Disney and one for Sesame Street, that were initially
  outsourced overseas. Both projects were eventually deemed substandard, and
  completely re-written in-house.
 
  I'm not saying the programmers overseas are substandard--I've worked with
  some fine Chinese and Indian programmers (even some good Europeans ;-) There
  are so many problems with time differences, cultural differences,
  expectations, and a host of other issues that it often costs more to send
  something overseas.
 
  Cordially,
 
  Kerry Thompson
 
 
 
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Re: [Flashcoders] JSFL Add a new font

2008-03-27 Thread Steven Sacks
You can do anything you want in C++.  Read the JSFL docs on how to use 
C++ to do more complex JSFL stuff.


Hopefully, the time and cost it takes to research it, write the C++, 
debug and deploy your solution will be less than the time and cost 
savings of importing a Font into a Flash library.  If you can sense the 
sarcasm, you're dead on.  ;)


On the other hand, it might be possible to alter an already existing 
Font symbol in the Library.  You might want to look into that.  The 
history panel is your friend and so are the JSFL docs.




Leon wrote:

And no others way?
Ex: A low-level extension for flash that extends JSFL ?
  


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Re: [Flashcoders] Variable scope within for loops: reusing iteratorvariables

2008-03-27 Thread Steven Sacks

function doSomething

{
  var i:int;
  for(i=0;i++;i10)
  {
  }
}

Is functionally identical to this:

function doSomething
{
  for(var i:int =0;i++;i10)
  {
  }
}


Wrong.  It's not.

In the latter example, i is not available after the loop.  In the first 
example, it is.

var i:int;
for (i = 0; i  10; i++)
{
  if (i == 5) break;
}
trace(i);
-- 5

There are a multitude of uses for this, and I do it all the time.  
Additionally, I read somewhere many moons ago (back in my FLASM days) that 
declaring variables outside a for loop is less bytecode and uses less memory.  
I don't believe that applies to the counter declaration, but I do know it 
applies to the comparison as well as vars declared inside the for loop.  
However, this level of optimization is only useful in a practical way on mobile 
and some games.

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Re: [Flashcoders] Outsourcing

2008-03-27 Thread Steven Sacks

If you want freelance work, here's how you do it.

Make an account on LinkedIn.  Get some recommendations.

I get about 10 job offers each week from just that.  Some full-time, 
some project-based.  You're missing out if you're not making yourself 
known.  :)


Dwayne Neckles wrote:

My sentiments exactly.. it's frustrating...thats why  I became full time in NY.

  


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Re: [Flashcoders] FLASH+AIR+ASP

2008-03-27 Thread Helmut Granda
There is no a open API, everything is strictly controlled by IT so I think I
need to find another way around. My logic was telling me that since the
application was being only wrapped by AIR that still the longin calls were
going to be implemented in the application. Meaning if the user wasn't
logged in it was going to ask for UN and pass and then continue.

Thanks, this is for sure a great learning experience

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Sidney de Koning [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Does you aspx login form have an API? I mean, can you POST of GET
 variables to it and you you get back a value of something to let you
 know you are logged in? If so, you can access it with AIR.

 in you example you say 'go to the app()' . Are we talking about AIR or
 a webapplication in the browser (i just need to be sure), because you
 just cannot start an application that is on the users hard drive.

 Hope to hear from you,

 Sid


 On Mar 27, 2008, at 3:33 PM, Helmut Granda wrote:

  You have to login through a aspx form(no httaccess). basically the
  application lives in the extranet so you have to login to access any
  documents on that specific area. It works well on the browser
  because before
  accessing the application you have to login and once you are in the
  process
  continues. But as a stand-alone application it seems to be a whole
  different
  monster
 
  start()
  if user is not logged in
  ask for login info()
  else
  go to the app()
  end()
 
  thanks for your input
 
  On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 3:44 AM, Sidney de Koning 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  wrote:
 
  Do you mean that you need to login through HTACCESS? (the browser
  dialog box) or through an ASP file?
 
  If its HTACCESS then, with AIR, you can get past it in AIR. Tell me
  which one is of use and i'll try to help.
 
  Cheers,
 
  Sid
 
  On Mar 26, 2008, at 11:41 PM, Helmut Granda wrote:
 
I have an application that was created for the browser
  (Flash+ASP)and runs under a secure server (https) and everything
  works
  great. Now there is an attenpt to move the application to stand
  alone with
  AIR but it seems like because it is under a secure server I am
  having issues
  accessing the server.
 
Basically this is what happens:
 
Flash - ask to ASP for stuff
ASP - give back Flash STUFF
FLASH - Display the stuff ASP Provided
 
Using AIR as a wrapper Im not sure how still being able to
  hit the
  server without having the user to log in. Oh yeah I forgot to
  mention that
  the user has to login throuh the browser so do I need to create a
  page for
  the user to login before deploying my application?
 
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Re: [Flashcoders] AMFPHP vs RubyAMF

2008-03-27 Thread Steven Sacks
AMFPHP has been around a long time.  It's been optimized and optimized 
and optimized.  RubyAMF is (relatively) new.  However, I have not used 
it, so I don't know how it performs, but I'm going to take an educated 
guess that AMFPHP is faster, more stable and more flexible only because 
of its age and widespread use.


artur wrote:
is there a major difference in terms of performance, stability,  and 
flexibility?


im about to built an RIA using Flex  MySQL..
but havent decided on the middleware yet.

whats the verdict?

also whats the learning curve on it for devs who have experience with 
Java, JSP, ASP, PHP





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[Flashcoders] using a class to load data

2008-03-27 Thread Allandt Bik-Elliott (Receptacle)

hi guys

i am trying to set up a class to handle my xml (will be instantiated  
for each xml file) but i'm running into a slight problem


here is the class so far:

CODE
package
{
//package imports
import flash.events.*;
import flash.net.*;

internal class XMLLoader
{
// class variable declarations
private var xmlDoc:XML;
private var xmlURL:String;
private var xmlLoader:URLLoader;

public function get doc():XML {return xmlDoc;}

// constructor
public function XMLLoader(url:String)
{
xmlURL = url;
var urlRequest:URLRequest = new URLRequest(xmlURL);
xmlLoader = new URLLoader();
xmlLoader.addEventListener(Event.COMPLETE, 
completeListener);
xmlLoader.load(urlRequest);
}

private function completeListener(e:Event):void
{
xmlDoc = new XML(xmlLoader.data);
}
}
}
/CODE

the problem is with timing - from within the XMLLoader() Class i can  
wait for the COMPLETE event to reference the xmlDoc but how would i  
do that from an instance of the class?


for instance if i do the following from my main class i get a null  
object error because it doesn't wait for the data to be loaded before  
trying to read it:


CODE
var xmlurl:String = path/to/xml.xml;
var xmlDoc:XMLLoader = new XMLLoader(xmlurl);
xmlDoc = xmlLoader.doc;
trace (xmlDoc.toXMLString());
/CODE

this would equally apply to an image loader, i guess

thanks in advance
a

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RE: [Flashcoders] using a class to load data

2008-03-27 Thread Merrill, Jason
Have your XMLLoader class extend EventDispatcher and have your XMLLoader
class dispatch an event when the load is complete.  Wherever your
instance of the class is declared, add an event listener to the instance
and write a function handler. if you need assistance with setting that
up, write back, it's pretty simple.


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Of Allandt Bik-Elliott (Receptacle)
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To: flashcoders
Subject: [Flashcoders] using a class to load data

hi guys

i am trying to set up a class to handle my xml (will be 
instantiated for each xml file) but i'm running into a slight problem

here is the class so far:

CODE
package
{
  //package imports
  import flash.events.*;
  import flash.net.*;
  
  internal class XMLLoader
  {
  // class variable declarations
  private var xmlDoc:XML;
  private var xmlURL:String;
  private var xmlLoader:URLLoader;
  
  public function get doc():XML {return xmlDoc;}
  
  // constructor
  public function XMLLoader(url:String)
  {
  xmlURL = url;
  var urlRequest:URLRequest = new 
URLRequest(xmlURL);
  xmlLoader = new URLLoader();
  
xmlLoader.addEventListener(Event.COMPLETE, completeListener);
  xmlLoader.load(urlRequest);
  }
  
  private function completeListener(e:Event):void
  {
  xmlDoc = new XML(xmlLoader.data);
  }
  }
}
/CODE

the problem is with timing - from within the XMLLoader() 
Class i can wait for the COMPLETE event to reference the 
xmlDoc but how would i do that from an instance of the class?

for instance if i do the following from my main class i get a 
null object error because it doesn't wait for the data to be 
loaded before trying to read it:

CODE
var xmlurl:String = path/to/xml.xml;
var xmlDoc:XMLLoader = new XMLLoader(xmlurl); xmlDoc = 
xmlLoader.doc; trace (xmlDoc.toXMLString()); /CODE

this would equally apply to an image loader, i guess

thanks in advance
a

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Re: [Flashcoders] Variable scope within for loops: reusing iteratorvariables

2008-03-27 Thread Juan Pablo Califano
for (var i:int = 0; i  10; i++)
{
  if (i == 5) break;
}
trace(i);

Mmm, have you actually tested the example? Because it does trace 5, since,
as it was explained earlier in this thread, there is no block level scoping
in AS 3.0. In fact, and this was mentioned too, all var declarations are
moved up to be executed as the first actions run in a function's code (I
believe that was called hoisting, but I might be wrong).

Cheers
Juan Pablo Califano

2008/3/27, Steven Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 function doSomething
  {
var i:int;
for(i=0;i++;i10)
{
}
  }
 
  Is functionally identical to this:
 
  function doSomething
  {
for(var i:int =0;i++;i10)
{
}
  }

 Wrong.  It's not.

 In the latter example, i is not available after the loop.  In the first
 example, it is.

 var i:int;
 for (i = 0; i  10; i++)
 {
   if (i == 5) break;
 }
 trace(i);
 -- 5

 There are a multitude of uses for this, and I do it all the
 time.  Additionally, I read somewhere many moons ago (back in my FLASM days)
 that declaring variables outside a for loop is less bytecode and uses less
 memory.  I don't believe that applies to the counter declaration, but I do
 know it applies to the comparison as well as vars declared inside the for
 loop.  However, this level of optimization is only useful in a practical way
 on mobile and some games.

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Re: [Flashcoders] Variable scope within for loops: reusing iteratorvariables

2008-03-27 Thread Ian Thomas
AFAIK, in AS2 the Flash IDE didn't respect block level scoping, but
MTASC did, which led to some confusion. That leads some people to
think that AS2 as a language has block level scoping.

AS3 definitely doesn't respect block scopes, and I curse every time I
trip over that 'variable declared twice' issue. I wish it did.

Ian

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Juan Pablo Califano
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 for (var i:int = 0; i  10; i++)

 {
   if (i == 5) break;
  }
  trace(i);

  Mmm, have you actually tested the example? Because it does trace 5, since,
  as it was explained earlier in this thread, there is no block level scoping
  in AS 3.0. In fact, and this was mentioned too, all var declarations are
  moved up to be executed as the first actions run in a function's code (I
  believe that was called hoisting, but I might be wrong).

  Cheers
  Juan Pablo Califano

  2008/3/27, Steven Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 
   function doSomething
{
  var i:int;
  for(i=0;i++;i10)
  {
  }
}
   
Is functionally identical to this:
   
function doSomething
{
  for(var i:int =0;i++;i10)
  {
  }
}
  
   Wrong.  It's not.
  
   In the latter example, i is not available after the loop.  In the first
   example, it is.
  
   var i:int;
   for (i = 0; i  10; i++)
   {
 if (i == 5) break;
   }
   trace(i);
   -- 5
  
   There are a multitude of uses for this, and I do it all the
   time.  Additionally, I read somewhere many moons ago (back in my FLASM 
 days)
   that declaring variables outside a for loop is less bytecode and uses less
   memory.  I don't believe that applies to the counter declaration, but I do
   know it applies to the comparison as well as vars declared inside the for
   loop.  However, this level of optimization is only useful in a practical 
 way
   on mobile and some games.
  
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Re: [Flashcoders] using a class to load data

2008-03-27 Thread Allandt Bik-Elliott (Receptacle)
thanks jason - i've done this and it's working, i just wanted you to  
take a look to make sure i've not done it stupidly


CODE
package
{
//package imports
import flash.events.*;
import flash.net.*;

internal class XMLLoader extends EventDispatcher
{
// class variable declarations
private var xmlDoc:XML;
private var xmlURL:String;
private var xmlLoader:URLLoader;

public static const COMPLETE:String = complete;

public function get doc():XML
{
return xmlDoc;
}

// constructor
public function XMLLoader(url:String)
{
xmlURL = url;
var urlRequest:URLRequest = new URLRequest(xmlURL);
xmlLoader = new URLLoader();
xmlLoader.addEventListener(Event.COMPLETE, 
completeListener);
xmlLoader.load(urlRequest);
}

private function completeListener(e:Event):void
{
xmlDoc = new XML(xmlLoader.data);
dispatchEvent(new Event(XMLLoader.COMPLETE));
}
}
}
/CODE

and the function call is

CODE
private var xmlDoc:XML;
private var xmlurl:String;
private var xmlLoader:XMLLoader;

// call to initialiseXML() made in constructor
private function initialiseXML():void
{
xmlLoader = new XMLLoader(xmlurl);  
xmlLoader.addEventListener(Event.COMPLETE, completeListener);
}

private function completeListener(e:Event):void
{
xmlDoc = xmlLoader.doc;
trace (xmlDoc.toXMLString()); //traces xml correctly
}
/CODE

a



On 27 Mar 2008, at 19:14, Merrill, Jason wrote:

Have your XMLLoader class extend EventDispatcher and have your  
XMLLoader

class dispatch an event when the load is complete.  Wherever your
instance of the class is declared, add an event listener to the  
instance

and write a function handler. if you need assistance with setting that
up, write back, it's pretty simple.


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eTools  Multimedia

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Allandt Bik-Elliott (Receptacle)
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 2:51 PM
To: flashcoders
Subject: [Flashcoders] using a class to load data

hi guys

i am trying to set up a class to handle my xml (will be
instantiated for each xml file) but i'm running into a slight  
problem


here is the class so far:

CODE
package
{
//package imports
import flash.events.*;
import flash.net.*;

internal class XMLLoader
{
// class variable declarations
private var xmlDoc:XML;
private var xmlURL:String;
private var xmlLoader:URLLoader;

public function get doc():XML {return xmlDoc;}

// constructor
public function XMLLoader(url:String)
{
xmlURL = url;
var urlRequest:URLRequest = new
URLRequest(xmlURL);
xmlLoader = new URLLoader();

xmlLoader.addEventListener(Event.COMPLETE, completeListener);
xmlLoader.load(urlRequest);
}

private function completeListener(e:Event):void
{
xmlDoc = new XML(xmlLoader.data);
}
}
}
/CODE

the problem is with timing - from within the XMLLoader()
Class i can wait for the COMPLETE event to reference the
xmlDoc but how would i do that from an instance of the class?

for instance if i do the following from my main class i get a
null object error because it doesn't wait for the data to be
loaded before trying to read it:

CODE
var xmlurl:String = path/to/xml.xml;
var xmlDoc:XMLLoader = new XMLLoader(xmlurl); xmlDoc =
xmlLoader.doc; trace (xmlDoc.toXMLString()); /CODE

this would equally apply to an image loader, i guess

thanks in advance
a

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Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3

2008-03-27 Thread Allandt Bik-Elliott (Receptacle)

i couldn't afford to pay my bills on those prices


On 27 Mar 2008, at 16:15, Dwayne Neckles wrote:


Yea guys I I know we are off the issue topic.
but its disgusting...

i could be wrong but I feel getacoder and elance all i feel cheapen  
us as coders and flashers.. but this is a digression..





Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:24:08 +0100
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3

sick. If you want to know for how little money projects are  
proposed and

how fast programmer people on earth can work for go there:
http://www.getacoder.com

L


Paul Andrews a écrit :
- Original Message - From: Pedro Kostelec  
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Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Tweening Engines for AS3



Sorry, my fault, sometimes I forgot I am on an international list.
You would cry if you see a paycheck of a programmer from a third- 
world

country ;)

I don't get it. I am not even in university so i am not employed  
and

i have
no idea what this international list means??


People reading and posting to the list are from all over the world -
international - rather than just being in the US. In that respect  
you
can't assume that worldwide flash developers are all driving in  
shiny

new Porsches.

Paul



I am curious,
Pedro


On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Wagner Amaral  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

wrote:


On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Steven Sacks
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


We are programmers, we can't afford Porsches! Better change that
to bike and skate...


You're joking, right?  Talented Flash developers are in extremely

high

demand right now.  Every day I get 3-5 emails from recruiters or

companies.
 It's a seller's market and people are paying top dollar for  
AS3 and

Flex
devs.  Flash and Flex jobs are paying $75-$150/hr.  That's  
$150,000 -

$300,000 a year.  If you can't afford a Porsche, you need to find

a new
job

or grow a pair and ask for a raise.

That being said, I don't own a Porsche because I've got better

things  to

do with my money.  ;)




Sorry, my fault, sometimes I forgot I am on an international list.
You would cry if you see a paycheck of a programmer from a  
third-world

country ;)
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RE: [Flashcoders] world clock - revisited

2008-03-27 Thread Keith Reinfeld
Hi Corban, Marcelo, 

Marcelo Volmaro wrote:
 I did that code :) 

Absolutely! And thank you again. Awesome! (Corban and I corresponded on the
topic, offlist, back when the Flashcoders list was down for so very long.) 

 check if I'm in DST 

And that, Corban, is the trick. At least for me. My World Clock
implementation allows for the display of multiple clocks simultaneously. So
how does one correctly display the DST transitions across a number of
timezones? 

I modified Marcelo's code to get DST start and end times (in milliseconds)
down to the last second before the transition. So now I can check to see if
the current time falls between start and end (add an hour) or not. But that
is not enough! 

Is DST observed at the remote location? If yes then: 

According to the client machine's clock settings: 
Is DST observed locally? 
Is DST currently in effect locally? 

Is start  end (Northern Hemisphere)? 
If local DST is in effect is the calculated time less than start?
If local DST is in effect is the calculated time greater than end?

Is start  end (Southern Hemisphere)? 
If local DST is in effect is the calculated time less than end?
If local DST is in effect is the calculated time greater than start?
If local DST is in effect is the calculated time greater than end and less
than start?

Etc... 

If there is an elegant way of doing this I would love to hear it! 

Regards, 

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[Flashcoders] AS3 Programmer is needed in Paris

2008-03-27 Thread laurent
 
A sweet agency call http://www.grouek.com is looking for some talented 
AS3 programmer urgently.


If you're the man ...or the woman contact me offlist I will forward your 
contact. Send me a cv if possible or some references to your last pieces 
of art.


Thank you
L
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Re: [Flashcoders] Outsourcing (was: Tweening Engines for AS3)

2008-03-27 Thread Allandt Bik-Elliott (Receptacle)
it's bad enough to try to understand someone elses code when you  
speak the same language - it must be damn near impossible if  
everything's in chinese



On 27 Mar 2008, at 16:45, Kerry Thompson wrote:


Laurent wrote:

sick. If you want to know for how little money projects are  
proposed and

how fast programmer people on earth can work for go there:
http://www.getacoder.com


I found the same thing when I registered with guru.com. There are  
hundreds of jobs with a budget of $500 or less, and precious few  
worth bidding on. All my work comes from contacts--current and  
former clients, colleagues, and the like.


There is a downside to outsourcing, though. I've worked on two  
major projects, one for Disney and one for Sesame Street, that were  
initially outsourced overseas. Both projects were eventually deemed  
substandard, and completely re-written in-house.


I'm not saying the programmers overseas are substandard--I've  
worked with some fine Chinese and Indian programmers (even some  
good Europeans ;-) There are so many problems with time  
differences, cultural differences, expectations, and a host of  
other issues that it often costs more to send something overseas.


Cordially,

Kerry Thompson



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Re: [Flashcoders] Outsourcing

2008-03-27 Thread Helmut Granda
You forgot the And create a Framework that is easy to use and 100s of
people can use. and a blg around it to get exposure. now that is the easy
part :)

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Steven Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 If you want freelance work, here's how you do it.

 Make an account on LinkedIn.  Get some recommendations.

 I get about 10 job offers each week from just that.  Some full-time,
 some project-based.  You're missing out if you're not making yourself
 known.  :)

 Dwayne Neckles wrote:
  My sentiments exactly.. it's frustrating...thats why  I became full time
 in NY.
 
 

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Re: [Flashcoders] Variable scope within for loops: reusing iteratorvariables

2008-03-27 Thread jonathan howe
I wish it did.

Maybe at least one person saying that was what I was looking for... Thanks
for the discussion!

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Ian Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 AFAIK, in AS2 the Flash IDE didn't respect block level scoping, but
 MTASC did, which led to some confusion. That leads some people to
 think that AS2 as a language has block level scoping.

 AS3 definitely doesn't respect block scopes, and I curse every time I
 trip over that 'variable declared twice' issue. I wish it did.

 Ian

 On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Juan Pablo Califano
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  for (var i:int = 0; i  10; i++)
 
  {
if (i == 5) break;
   }
   trace(i);
 
   Mmm, have you actually tested the example? Because it does trace 5,
 since,
   as it was explained earlier in this thread, there is no block level
 scoping
   in AS 3.0. In fact, and this was mentioned too, all var declarations
 are
   moved up to be executed as the first actions run in a function's code
 (I
   believe that was called hoisting, but I might be wrong).
 
   Cheers
   Juan Pablo Califano
 
   2008/3/27, Steven Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 
  
function doSomething
 {
   var i:int;
   for(i=0;i++;i10)
   {
   }
 }

 Is functionally identical to this:

 function doSomething
 {
   for(var i:int =0;i++;i10)
   {
   }
 }
   
Wrong.  It's not.
   
In the latter example, i is not available after the loop.  In the
 first
example, it is.
   
var i:int;
for (i = 0; i  10; i++)
{
  if (i == 5) break;
}
trace(i);
-- 5
   
There are a multitude of uses for this, and I do it all the
time.  Additionally, I read somewhere many moons ago (back in my
 FLASM days)
that declaring variables outside a for loop is less bytecode and uses
 less
memory.  I don't believe that applies to the counter declaration, but
 I do
know it applies to the comparison as well as vars declared inside the
 for
loop.  However, this level of optimization is only useful in a
 practical way
on mobile and some games.
   
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Re: [Flashcoders] Outsourcing (was: Tweening Engines for AS3)

2008-03-27 Thread Matt S.
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Allandt Bik-Elliott (Receptacle)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 it's bad enough to try to understand someone elses code when you
  speak the same language - it must be damn near impossible if
  everything's in chinese




I've had to deal with that when working with an Italian coders
actionscript. The naming is what kills you, because unless you speak
the language you cant guess at what possible action a particular
function has or what a particular variable pertains to, and you have
to figure it out the long way, by combing through the code and
locating them all. At a glance, there's now way to know that
spostiPannelli means movePanels
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Re: [Flashcoders] Outsourcing (was: Tweening Engines for AS3)

2008-03-27 Thread Elia Morling
Yes, there are caveats with outsourcing, but the problems are often on the 
buyer end. If you learn how to specifiy and run your outsourcing projects 
you can do it successfuly. Don't hire someone that doesn't speak english or 
has any experience with projects abroad.


I am running multiple indie game projects, all funded out of my own pocket, 
and they involve´more than 10 people in different countries. Their services 
range from 2D graphics, 3D modeling, programming and copywriting.


In my opinion outsourcing is the future. I don't see a reason to hire anyone 
from Europe, unless they offer below-european-standard-rates of course. I do 
contract americans, because of the great USD.


Regards
Elia


On 27 Mar 2008, at 16:45, Kerry Thompson wrote:


Laurent wrote:

sick. If you want to know for how little money projects are  proposed 
and

how fast programmer people on earth can work for go there:
http://www.getacoder.com


I found the same thing when I registered with guru.com. There are 
hundreds of jobs with a budget of $500 or less, and precious few  worth 
bidding on. All my work comes from contacts--current and  former clients, 
colleagues, and the like.


There is a downside to outsourcing, though. I've worked on two  major 
projects, one for Disney and one for Sesame Street, that were  initially 
outsourced overseas. Both projects were eventually deemed  substandard, 
and completely re-written in-house.


I'm not saying the programmers overseas are substandard--I've  worked 
with some fine Chinese and Indian programmers (even some  good Europeans 
;-) There are so many problems with time  differences, cultural 
differences, expectations, and a host of  other issues that it often 
costs more to send something overseas.


Cordially,

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RE: [Flashcoders] using a class to load data

2008-03-27 Thread Merrill, Jason
Yeah, I mean that's basically how I described it and would do it - there
might be a better way, but that way should work fine for you.

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Of Allandt Bik-Elliott (Receptacle)
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] using a class to load data

thanks jason - i've done this and it's working, i just wanted 
you to take a look to make sure i've not done it stupidly

CODE
package
{
  //package imports
  import flash.events.*;
  import flash.net.*;
  
  internal class XMLLoader extends EventDispatcher
  {
  // class variable declarations
  private var xmlDoc:XML;
  private var xmlURL:String;
  private var xmlLoader:URLLoader;
  
  public static const COMPLETE:String = complete;
  
  public function get doc():XML
  {
  return xmlDoc;
  }
  
  // constructor
  public function XMLLoader(url:String)
  {
  xmlURL = url;
  var urlRequest:URLRequest = new 
URLRequest(xmlURL);
  xmlLoader = new URLLoader();
  
xmlLoader.addEventListener(Event.COMPLETE, completeListener);
  xmlLoader.load(urlRequest);
  }
  
  private function completeListener(e:Event):void
  {
  xmlDoc = new XML(xmlLoader.data);
  dispatchEvent(new Event(XMLLoader.COMPLETE));
  }
  }
}
/CODE

and the function call is

CODE
private var xmlDoc:XML;
private var xmlurl:String;
private var xmlLoader:XMLLoader;

// call to initialiseXML() made in constructor private 
function initialiseXML():void {
  xmlLoader = new XMLLoader(xmlurl);  
  xmlLoader.addEventListener(Event.COMPLETE, completeListener); }
  
private function completeListener(e:Event):void {
  xmlDoc = xmlLoader.doc;
  trace (xmlDoc.toXMLString()); //traces xml correctly } /CODE

a



On 27 Mar 2008, at 19:14, Merrill, Jason wrote:

 Have your XMLLoader class extend EventDispatcher and have your 
 XMLLoader class dispatch an event when the load is 
complete.  Wherever 
 your instance of the class is declared, add an event 
listener to the 
 instance and write a function handler. if you need assistance with 
 setting that up, write back, it's pretty simple.


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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Allandt Bik-Elliott (Receptacle)
 Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 2:51 PM
 To: flashcoders
 Subject: [Flashcoders] using a class to load data

 hi guys

 i am trying to set up a class to handle my xml (will be 
instantiated 
 for each xml file) but i'm running into a slight problem

 here is the class so far:

 CODE
 package
 {
   //package imports
   import flash.events.*;
   import flash.net.*;
   
   internal class XMLLoader
   {
   // class variable declarations
   private var xmlDoc:XML;
   private var xmlURL:String;
   private var xmlLoader:URLLoader;
   
   public function get doc():XML {return xmlDoc;}
   
   // constructor
   public function XMLLoader(url:String)
   {
   xmlURL = url;
   var urlRequest:URLRequest = new
 URLRequest(xmlURL);
   xmlLoader = new URLLoader();
   
 xmlLoader.addEventListener(Event.COMPLETE, completeListener);
   xmlLoader.load(urlRequest);
   }
   
   private function completeListener(e:Event):void
   {
   xmlDoc = new XML(xmlLoader.data);
   }
   }
 }
 /CODE

 the problem is with timing - from within the XMLLoader() 
Class i can 
 wait for the COMPLETE event to reference the xmlDoc but 
how would i 
 do that from an instance of the class?

 for instance if i do the following from my main class i 
get a null 
 object error because it doesn't wait for the data to be loaded 
 before trying to read it:

 CODE
 var xmlurl:String = path/to/xml.xml; var xmlDoc:XMLLoader = new 
 XMLLoader(xmlurl); 

RE: [Flashcoders] Outsourcing (was: Tweening Engines for AS3)

2008-03-27 Thread Kerry Thompson
Allandt Bik-Elliott wrote:

 it's bad enough to try to understand someone elses code when you
 speak the same language - it must be damn near impossible if
 everything's in Chinese

Well, as it happens, I speak Chinese--I used to live in Beijing. But
communication isn't the issue. It's time zones, cultural differences,
program behavior expectations, code structure expectations, and the like.
You have that same issue, often, dealing with programmers in India--even
really good programmers.

I must admit, though, that language is an issue with non-English speakers.
Programming languages are geared towards English speakers--all the keywords,
built-in classes, and the like are English. With the Chinese programmers,
who were very bright, but didn't speak English, I'd see a lot of variable or
function names like x, xx, xx1, xz1, and the like. They are just as
meaningful to a Chinese speaker as spritePos or detectCollision.

And don't get me started on code commenting.

Cordially,

Kerry Thompson


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Re: [Flashcoders] Variable scope within for loops: reusing iteratorvariables

2008-03-27 Thread Cory Petosky
I guess I should have provided an example when I mentioned no block
level scoping. Try this on for size:

for (i = 0; i  10; ++i); // Do nothing but increment i
var i:int;
trace(i);

This is totally valid code and will trace 10! ALL variable
declarations in a function, regardless of the block the variable is
declared in, are performed as the function is pushed on the stack.

Cory

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 3:47 PM, jonathan howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I wish it did.

  Maybe at least one person saying that was what I was looking for... Thanks
  for the discussion!



  On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Ian Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   AFAIK, in AS2 the Flash IDE didn't respect block level scoping, but
   MTASC did, which led to some confusion. That leads some people to
   think that AS2 as a language has block level scoping.
  
   AS3 definitely doesn't respect block scopes, and I curse every time I
   trip over that 'variable declared twice' issue. I wish it did.
  
   Ian
  
   On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Juan Pablo Califano
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
for (var i:int = 0; i  10; i++)
   
{
  if (i == 5) break;
 }
 trace(i);
   
 Mmm, have you actually tested the example? Because it does trace 5,
   since,
 as it was explained earlier in this thread, there is no block level
   scoping
 in AS 3.0. In fact, and this was mentioned too, all var declarations
   are
 moved up to be executed as the first actions run in a function's code
   (I
 believe that was called hoisting, but I might be wrong).
   
 Cheers
 Juan Pablo Califano
   
 2008/3/27, Steven Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   
   

  function doSomething
   {
 var i:int;
 for(i=0;i++;i10)
 {
 }
   }
  
   Is functionally identical to this:
  
   function doSomething
   {
 for(var i:int =0;i++;i10)
 {
 }
   }
 
  Wrong.  It's not.
 
  In the latter example, i is not available after the loop.  In the
   first
  example, it is.
 
  var i:int;
  for (i = 0; i  10; i++)
  {
if (i == 5) break;
  }
  trace(i);
  -- 5
 
  There are a multitude of uses for this, and I do it all the
  time.  Additionally, I read somewhere many moons ago (back in my
   FLASM days)
  that declaring variables outside a for loop is less bytecode and uses
   less
  memory.  I don't believe that applies to the counter declaration, but
   I do
  know it applies to the comparison as well as vars declared inside the
   for
  loop.  However, this level of optimization is only useful in a
   practical way
  on mobile and some games.
 
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RE: [Flashcoders] Variable scope within for loops: reusingiteratorvariables

2008-03-27 Thread Francis Cheng
Ian, help is on the way, the ECMAScript 4th edition draft specification
contains a new keyword, let, that can be used in place of var to
provide block-level scoping. Details for the curious:

http://wiki.ecmascript.org/doku.php?id=proposals:block_expressions

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thomas
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 1:23 PM
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Variable scope within for loops:
reusingiteratorvariables

AFAIK, in AS2 the Flash IDE didn't respect block level scoping, but
MTASC did, which led to some confusion. That leads some people to
think that AS2 as a language has block level scoping.

AS3 definitely doesn't respect block scopes, and I curse every time I
trip over that 'variable declared twice' issue. I wish it did.

Ian

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Juan Pablo Califano
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 for (var i:int = 0; i  10; i++)

 {
   if (i == 5) break;
  }
  trace(i);

  Mmm, have you actually tested the example? Because it does trace 5,
since,
  as it was explained earlier in this thread, there is no block level
scoping
  in AS 3.0. In fact, and this was mentioned too, all var declarations
are
  moved up to be executed as the first actions run in a function's
code (I
  believe that was called hoisting, but I might be wrong).

  Cheers
  Juan Pablo Califano

  2008/3/27, Steven Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 
   function doSomething
{
  var i:int;
  for(i=0;i++;i10)
  {
  }
}
   
Is functionally identical to this:
   
function doSomething
{
  for(var i:int =0;i++;i10)
  {
  }
}
  
   Wrong.  It's not.
  
   In the latter example, i is not available after the loop.  In the
first
   example, it is.
  
   var i:int;
   for (i = 0; i  10; i++)
   {
 if (i == 5) break;
   }
   trace(i);
   -- 5
  
   There are a multitude of uses for this, and I do it all the
   time.  Additionally, I read somewhere many moons ago (back in my
FLASM days)
   that declaring variables outside a for loop is less bytecode and
uses less
   memory.  I don't believe that applies to the counter declaration,
but I do
   know it applies to the comparison as well as vars declared inside
the for
   loop.  However, this level of optimization is only useful in a
practical way
   on mobile and some games.
  
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Re: [Flashcoders] Variable scope within for loops: reusing iteratorvariables

2008-03-27 Thread Steven Sacks
Valid where?  If that's in a class function and i is not a class 
variable, then the compiler will complain that you're using an 
undeclared variable.


Cory Petosky wrote:

I guess I should have provided an example when I mentioned no block
level scoping. Try this on for size:

for (i = 0; i  10; ++i); // Do nothing but increment i
var i:int;
trace(i);

This is totally valid code and will trace 10! ALL variable
declarations in a function, regardless of the block the variable is
declared in, are performed as the function is pushed on the stack.
  


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[Flashcoders] query string

2008-03-27 Thread Laert Jansen
Hello folks!

I have to link one button to this link: home.php?location=boston

How do I do this? getURL ?

Thanks a lot

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[Flashcoders] AIR write to PowerPoint

2008-03-27 Thread Jason Van Cleave
I am currently doing some research for a project that is asking for output
to a ppt/pps file. The original version of this project used Director and
some Xtras to accomplish this.

In hopes of doing the newer version in Adobe AIR I am wondering if anyone
has seen any AIR apps that have this feature. I have came across
Sliderocket.com (nice flex app) which is hoping to incorporate it in a
future version.

Any insights in trying to get in and out of a PowerPoint file would be
greatly appreciated also.
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