Re: [Flashcoders] XMLList question

2010-02-03 Thread Alexander Farber
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Cor c...@chello.nl wrote: I always use ![CDATA[My text]] in xml. Is that a bad habbit? Not good for my app - if the user enters ]] and then some XML ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com

[Flashcoders] Re: I Must Be Asking This Question Wrong...

2010-02-03 Thread Wenzler, Thomas
...about how in his country computers have hamsters on wheels for power supplies and his hamster is sick and he promised his client he would have this done in only two weeks when he didn't know how to do it in the first place. Steven made my day. But while drying my eyes from an outburst of

Re: [Flashcoders] Re: I Must Be Asking This Question Wrong...

2010-02-03 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
Beno, I would recommend taking a break from the list. Finish your project and then post your finished code to show everyone that your not a help vampire and that you really care about the advice you get from here. Plus your code, like others, may help some other person possibly. Then you

Re: [Flashcoders] XMLList question

2010-02-03 Thread allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com)
i'll usually put output text content in html with a css file in CDATA tags. Anything that describes that content goes into attributes - like jason says, it uses the xml in the most efficient way. i also will use the sorting abilities of xml and xml list (myxml.nodesToSearch.(@attributeToFind ==

Re: [Flashcoders] Re: I Must Be Asking This Question Wrong...

2010-02-03 Thread Cedric Muller
The fact that someone has elected to unsubscribe because of your postings should tell you that your going about it the wrong way. The list is less active nowadays than it was a few years ago. Nevertheless, I don't think putting guilt (or responsability) upon beno would do any good. I

Re: [Flashcoders] WIRED hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com)
after linkhopping from one of the links on this thread, i came across this post http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2010/01/sympathy_for_the_devil.html by john nack from adobe i think it addresses some of the points that have been picked up by this list although it still suffers from the flash = video

Re: [Flashcoders] XMLList question

2010-02-03 Thread Alexander Farber
Wrong thread again? I've actually read several AS books :-) On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 11:30 AM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) alla...@gmail.com wrote: i'll usually put output text content in html with a css file in CDATA tags. Anything that describes that content goes into attributes -

Re: [Flashcoders] I Must Be Asking This Question Wrong...

2010-02-03 Thread beno -
Gustavo Duenas asks what I am trying to accomplish. I'm trying to get a single-frame mc in a single-frame single-layer timeline to play whenever I call it from an external class actionscript. Hendrik Andersson writes the following about breakpoints: Hit ctrl-b to set them, use ctrl-shift-enter

Re: [Flashcoders] I Must Be Asking This Question Wrong...

2010-02-03 Thread Henrik Andersson
beno - wrote: Hendrik Andersson writes the following about breakpoints: Hit ctrl-b to set them, use ctrl-shift-enter to start debugging mode so that they actually are used. Could you kindly translate that into Mac lingo? Last time I checked, the command key was treated like the ctrl key for

Re: [Flashcoders] XMLList question

2010-02-03 Thread allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com)
not directed at you mate - it was a response to tk about someone whose name begins with b, ends in o and sounds a bit like flenno not entirely sure why it ended up in this thread - i think some of the guys have started a new one to discuss it sorry for the confusion best a On Wed, Feb 3, 2010

[Flashcoders] E4X question

2010-02-03 Thread Mendelsohn, Michael
Hi list... I can't seem to get the right E4X statement. I'm trying to get an XMLList of all the p tags that have an s tag that is a certain string. I've tried all sorts of combinations, thinking this one would work, but it doesn't: // where animal is passed dog var list:XMLList =

Re: [Flashcoders] E4X question

2010-02-03 Thread Jer Brand
Give this a try -- worked for me : ) var x:XML = new XML(allp id='1'sdog/s/pp id='2'scat/s/pp id='3'sbird/s/pp id='4'sdog/s/pp//all) ; var animal:String = dog ; var list:XMLList = x.p.(child('s').text()[0] == animal) ; trace(list.toXMLString()) // traces... p id=1 sdog/s /p p id=4 sdog/s

RE: [Flashcoders] E4X question

2010-02-03 Thread Merrill, Jason
Is there a reason to have s as a child node instead of an attribute? Sorting would be a lot easier if s was an attribute of p instead of a child node. For example: var myXML:XML = new XML(all p s=dog / p s=cat / p s=bird / p s=cat / p s=sheep / p

Re: [Flashcoders] E4X question

2010-02-03 Thread kennethkawam...@gmail.com
You can condense it a little: var xmllist:XMLList = xml.p.(child(s) == animal); -- Kenneth Kawamoto http://www.materiaprima.co.uk/ On 3 February 2010 15:21, Jer Brand thejhe...@gmail.com wrote: Give this a try -- worked for me : ) var x:XML = new XML(allp id='1'sdog/s/pp id='2'scat/s/pp

RE: [Flashcoders] E4X question

2010-02-03 Thread Mendelsohn, Michael
Thanks for the responses... Jason: You're right...as always! :-) Having s as an attribute will make my life easier. I was trying to do it with a tag though, because I was trying to have really clean xml, everything as tags, no attributes. My train of thought is that actually, the p tags are

RE: [Flashcoders] E4X question

2010-02-03 Thread Merrill, Jason
because I was trying to have really clean xml, everything as tags, no attributes Heh heh, yeah, I think a bunch of child nodes is messier, more attributes is cleaner (and this leaner) but it's a matter of perspective I guess. :) Jason Merrill Bank of America Global Learning Learning

Re: [Flashcoders] I Must Be Asking This Question Wrong...

2010-02-03 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
ctr = apple key on a mac Karl ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders

Re: [Flashcoders] I Must Be Asking This Question Wrong...

2010-02-03 Thread Matt S.
Mac OS X for Dummies http://www.amazon.com/Mac-OS-Dummies-Bob-LeVitus/dp/0764507060 On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com wrote: ctr = apple key on a mac ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com

Re: [Flashcoders] I Must Be Asking This Question Wrong...

2010-02-03 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
Hey Matt, Was that for me or beno? Karl On Feb 3, 2010, at 10:30 AM, Matt S. wrote: Mac OS X for Dummies http://www.amazon.com/Mac-OS-Dummies-Bob-LeVitus/dp/0764507060 On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com wrote: ctr = apple key on a mac

Re: [Flashcoders] I Must Be Asking This Question Wrong...

2010-02-03 Thread Matt S.
For beno of course! Or rather, the one who goes by the pseudonym beno. .m On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com wrote: Hey Matt, Was that for me or beno? ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com

[Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread artur
from my client ( an established design agency in NYC ): artur, I've been doing a lot of research and polling of colleagues. *Here's my takeaway:* - no one knows what's going on - flash developers I've spoken to all are saying it's no big deal, proceed with flash - all

Re: [Flashcoders] I Must Be Asking This Question Wrong...

2010-02-03 Thread beno -
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Matt S. mattsp...@gmail.com wrote: For beno of course! Or rather, the one who goes by the pseudonym beno. My legal name is beno by court order. beno ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com

[Flashcoders] Re: I Must Be Asking This Question Wrong... (beno -)

2010-02-03 Thread Brian Weil
+1 Ban beno ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders

Re: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread Christian Pugliese
sorry to say, but not a respectable agency in that case, not even aware of what's really going on. On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 14:55, artur ar...@artur.com wrote: from my client ( an established design agency in NYC ): artur, I've been doing a lot of research and polling of colleagues.

Re: [Flashcoders] I Must Be Asking This Question Wrong...

2010-02-03 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
Oh, ok. I was going to say, I've been on a MAC my whole computer career. :P LOL, I don't even want to know why a court named you, but GL beno. I hope you successfully complete your project. Karl On Feb 3, 2010, at 10:59 AM, beno - wrote: On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Matt S.

Re: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread Glen Pike
Don't tell me - all the designers use Mac's and look like this guy. http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2002/7/12/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders

[Flashcoders] Joining XMLList elements

2010-02-03 Thread Alexander Farber
Sorry, I keep reading the docs, but haven't wrapped my brain around this yet. How could I create a string of several joined chat-lines here var myxml:XML = myxml chat0XXX/chat0 chat0YYY/chat0 chat0ZZZ/chat0 /myxml; handleChat(myxml.chat0); function handleChat(list:XMLList):void {

Re: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread Matt S.
Whatever we might think of this agency or their opinions, we need to recognize that this is probably what the next year of our lives is going to look like, and I guarantee you you'll be hearing it from respectable agencies as well. Flash just took a shotgun blast to the stomach thanks to Steve

Re: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread Bob Wohl
LMFAO! That's awesome Glen. On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Glen Pike g...@engineeredarts.co.uk wrote: Don't tell me - all the designers use Mac's and look like this guy. http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2002/7/12/ ___ Flashcoders mailing

Re: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread Carl Welch
This scenario is exactly what I was worried would start happening. I'm glad I live near Hollywood. They love Flash. -- Carl Welch http://www.carlwelch.com On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Matt S. mattsp...@gmail.com wrote: Whatever we might think of this agency or their opinions, we need to

Re: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread Soeren.Meyer-Eppler
People still look at it as non SEO friendly. they now want to do all future sites in html/css/jquery - powered by WPress or Joomla/Drupal. I think for the type of site where html/css/jquery is enough to implement it Flash is indeed a bad choice. What should be it's value proposition in those

Re: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread artur
folks, this is a wake up call. yes, larger agencies with an in-house internet dev dept. will be in the know. but for the rest of the world..when the word on the street is : flash = stay away. that hits my bottom line. i need to counter. fast. adobe i hope your going to pack some punches.

RE: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread Mendelsohn, Michael
adobe i hope your going to pack some punches. They better, and I'm fairly confident they will react appropriately. Apple doesn't have a monopoly on anything. - MM ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com

Re: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread Christian Pugliese
I second Soren... Good designers and developers must choose what fits best each website, and that should have been done by a long time, now things are just going to get more serious. Flash wont die, not in a near future, html5 badly supports video tag, there are browser compatibility stuff, there

Re: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread Gregory Boland
with any luck they will succeed in getting flash player 10.1 on all future cellphones using the ARM chip and will bring the ability to have apps on many cellphones not called iphone On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Mendelsohn, Michael michael.mendels...@fmglobal.com wrote: adobe i hope your

RE: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread David Hunter
it will be interesting to see what happens. this post on the topic of html5 vs flash is well balanced and non-inflammatory:http://richardleggett.co.uk/blog/index.php/2010/02/01/the-world-is-moving-to-html5 this post from someone at photoshop might cheer everyone

[Flashcoders] E4X, it's just not my day.

2010-02-03 Thread Mendelsohn, Michael
Ugh! What am I missing here? //XML: var artData:XML = art bios artist f=Peter s=AgrafiotisA longtime resident of Southern Maine, Peter Agrafiotis has always been fascinated with the timelessness of nature/artist /bios /art; var lastName = Agrafiotis; var artistBio:XMLList =

Re: [Flashcoders] E4X, it's just not my day.

2010-02-03 Thread allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com)
try tracing artistBio.length() (note the () - it's different to array) try also tracing artistBio.toString() and artistBio.toXMLString() a On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Mendelsohn, Michael michael.mendels...@fmglobal.com wrote: Ugh! What am I missing here? //XML: var artData:XML = art

Re: [Flashcoders] E4X, it's just not my day.

2010-02-03 Thread allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com)
can i also recommend you are a little more verbose with your attribute names? makes the whole thing much more readable a On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 6:27 PM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) alla...@gmail.com wrote: try tracing artistBio.length() (note the () - it's different to array)

Re: [Flashcoders] Joining XMLList elements

2010-02-03 Thread allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com)
hmmm ordinarily i would loop through the list to accomplish what you're trying to do function handleChat(list:XMLList):void { for (var i:int = 0; i list.length(); i++) { trace(list[i]); } } On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Alexander Farber alexander.far...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread Christian Pugliese
Btw, ABC.com is streaming Lost Final Season online in Flash, I wonder, in case he haven't seen yesterday, if Steve Jobs will watch it online in Flash, or will he just go illegal and download via torrent? what about those agency guys as well? (just kidding) On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 16:10, David

RE: [Flashcoders] E4X, it's just not my day.

2010-02-03 Thread Merrill, Jason
Compare and contrast: var artData:XML = new XML(art bios artist f=Peter s=AgrafiotisA longtime resident of Southern Maine, Peter Agrafiotis has always been fascinated with the timelessness of nature/artist artist f=Larry s=DenningHe sucks/artist

RE: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread Boerner, Brian J
Everyone move to Hollywood! ;^) Does anyone on this list have a decent stock response we could all use? I don't. Let's be realistic. Coming up with rationale for using Flash as development platform is tougher than it used to be by far... I guess gaming is safe to decent extent... Does anyone

Re: [Flashcoders] Joining XMLList elements

2010-02-03 Thread Jer Brand
Yeah, list.children() is an XMLList which doesn't have a join method. A loop looks like your best bet. Off the wall suggestion: If you're just adding this to a HTML enabled text field (or some other HTML enabled container), you might change your tag's to p/p rather than chat0.../chat0 and add the

Re: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread Jer Brand
Lurker chiming in (I'm talkative today...) In the end, I believe this will completely blow over, with very little change. Yeah, for the next few months some panic-prone clients are going to look for other solutions besides Flash. So long as you aren't positioned in the market as only a Flash

Re: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
Hello, I usually sit back and let the experts chum these out, but I have to say one thing.. I say its time for a Flash browser. No more installing plugins, no more yellow line around your swf, and no more relying on another browser to run flash. Just create a flash based browser and you take

RE: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread Merrill, Jason
I say its time for a Flash browser. I thought that was called AIR. :) Jason Merrill Bank of America Global Learning Learning Performance Soluions Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Community and visit our Instructional Technology Design Blog (note: these are for Bank of America

RE: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread Andrew Murphy
It may be helpful to discuss with clients something that we should always be doing when developing Flash web apps anyway; alternative content. And I mean giving the non-Flash user something more than just a link to download the Flash plugin. To respond to client concerns and provide a great user

RE: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread Mattheis, Erik (MIN - WSW)
Echoing Chris from earlier, I hope nobody here feels compelled to argue for Flash when it's not the best fit for a project. As far as a stock response to an objection to Flash, perhaps a question What features do you want the product to have and where and for who do you need it to run? Based

Re: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
Well yeah, but I mean an app like Safari or FireFox or IE, but it has flash and all its capabilities already in it. No need to install flash, because its a flash browser. Forgive me if I am unaware of what air actually is, but doesn't it still have to be installed to work with a browser?

Re: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread Bob Wohl
Forgive me if I am unaware of what air actually is, but doesn't it still have to be installed to work with a browser? wording should be installed to work *AS* a browser. On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com wrote: Well yeah, but I mean an app like Safari or

Re: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread Dave Watts
Well yeah, but I mean an app like Safari or FireFox or IE, but it has flash and all its capabilities already in it. No need to install flash, because its a flash browser. I don't see how that would improve anything - instead of people installing plugins in browsers they already have, they'd

Re: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread Kerry Thompson
I noticed something interesting, and perhaps relevant, a couple of days ago. Google Docs and Google Apps is going to stop supporting older Browsers, like IE 6, on March 1. I understand the move is to promote HTML5. I don't believe Flash is going away soon either. There are too many sites out

RE: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread Merrill, Jason
Forgive me if I am unaware of what air actually is, but doesn't it still have to be installed to work with a browser? I was mostly kidding, but Adobe AIR does have a web browser control so you can make an app that has web page inside it. There are limitations to it of course, like I don't

Re: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread Nathan Mynarcik
Air is an application just like a browser. You can pull HTML documents into an AIR app as well. So, yes, if someone wanted to make an App that was a browser, I don't see why they couldn't. AIR does not need a browser to run. Its like starting up any program on your pc or mac. Nathan

Re: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
Hi Dave, On Feb 3, 2010, at 3:55 PM, Dave Watts wrote: I don't see how that would improve anything - instead of people installing plugins in browsers they already have, they'd have to install a new browser. I don't see anything wrong with introducing a new browser that would work right

Re: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
Oh really! Wow that seems a bit odd. On Feb 3, 2010, at 3:58 PM, Merrill, Jason wrote: I don't think it supports Flash which is ironic. Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list

Re: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread Jer Brand
For those who haven't seen it yet http://www.gskinner.com/blog/archives/2010/02/my_thoughts_on.html Jer ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders

Re: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread Dave Watts
 I don't think it supports Flash which is ironic. Oh really! Wow that seems a bit odd. Not really, because AIR can run Flash directly, rather than within a browser. You don't need Flash within your browser within Flash. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/

Re: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
Basically, I was thinking of an app like say safari, that had the flashplayer and air app already part of the app and it handled all the other web standard languages as well. Being a power-house for internet browsing that eliminated any reason for a client to say na I dont like flash or they say

Re: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread Bob Wohl
It does but the real irony is that the flash object displayed in a web page inside air is embeded inside the air runtime(instance of flash running inside of air). If that description really makes sense. The uh... runtime inside the runtime scenario. On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Karl

Re: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
That makes sense. So if I had an air app and I wanted it to say display another persons flash website, it will do this like a regular web browser? On Feb 3, 2010, at 4:10 PM, Dave Watts wrote: Not really, because AIR can run Flash directly, rather than within a browser. You don't need Flash

Re: [Flashcoders] Joining XMLList elements

2010-02-03 Thread Alexander Farber
That's a cool idea, thank you On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Jer Brand thejhe...@gmail.com wrote: Off the wall suggestion: If you're just adding this to a HTML enabled text field (or some other HTML enabled container), you might change your tag's to p/p rather than chat0.../chat0 and add the

Re: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
That almost made my head spin, but I think I got it. :) On Feb 3, 2010, at 4:15 PM, Bob Wohl wrote: It does but the real irony is that the flash object displayed in a web page inside air is embeded inside the air runtime(instance of flash running inside of air). If that description really

RE: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread Merrill, Jason
Not really, because AIR can run Flash directly, rather than within a browser. You don't need Flash within your browser within Flash. Uh, you do if you are using the HTML control to have a section of your AIR app act as a browser. You don't want to miss out on the whole web experience inside

RE: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread Mattheis, Erik (MIN - WSW)
In my experience, it's been several years since I've had to think about providing alternate content to anything but search engines, the player penetration has been so high for target audiences it hasn't made sense to worry about. The two exceptions being when something has to be 508 compliant

Re: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread Zeh Fernando
IE7 and IE8 are a far cry from any sort of HTML5 support. I don't think it's to support it at all, it's just to make the developer's job less miserable (considering IE6 is a small part of their audience and it's on the way out anyway). Here's something everyone has to keep in mind: even if the

[Flashcoders] SEO + Flash = any great strategies?

2010-02-03 Thread artur
was wondering if there are any bulletproof SEO solutions out there besides doing a mod re-write for crawlers. does google still penalize for this? thanks artur ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com

Re: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread Kevin Newman
I've found that when I break down the options (because I don't care, I'll do it in Ajax) by project requirements - Flash is often the better choice, from a cost benefit angle - as well as enabling a few more things than HTML is even capable of. It seems easy to argue for Flash, if that's your

Re: [Flashcoders] SEO + Flash = any great strategies?

2010-02-03 Thread Nathan Mynarcik
Google has instructions on best practices. Visit code.google.com and play around in that area. There is never a bullet proof solution... --Original Message-- From: artur Sender: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com To: Flash Coders List ReplyTo: ar...@artur.com ReplyTo: Flash

Re: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread Brian Mays
I'm going to chime in to say this current tide reminds me of the hubbub that rose up when this article was written: http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20001029.html The article's title: Flash is 99% bad. It was published 10 years ago. We've survived and evolved. Brian Mays

Re: [Flashcoders] SEO + Flash = any great strategies?

2010-02-03 Thread raymondp413
Artur, I did some research this morning to unearth the latest best practices. I'll share the results of my findings. I found some information that suggests that Google is capable of 1) indexing Flash content embedded via SWFObject and 2) cataloging content linked via URLs with hash marks.

Re: [Flashcoders] I Must Be Asking This Question Wrong...

2010-02-03 Thread Peter B
Could you kindly translate that into Mac lingo? Seriously? You couldn't even look up / work out that for yourself? Hmm - not a good SNR. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com

Re: [Flashcoders] SEO + Flash = any great strategies?

2010-02-03 Thread Gustavo Duenas
swfaddress is ok for trying to make flash seo friendly, I've tried on one of my websites and it really works, course you can't make much of dynamic content (windows created by names from the mc or something like that) but you can't still make a sort of great things using that (the patron

Re: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread Gustavo Duenas
The Back button does not work. If you navigate within a Flash object, the standard backtracking method takes you out of the multimedia object and not, as expected, to the previous state. has he/she ever tried the swfaddress ? I've done that and it works with the back and the forth button.

Re: [Flashcoders] I Must Be Asking This Question Wrong...

2010-02-03 Thread Gustavo Duenas
gee!!!, can we pass BENO (benitin o lo que sea) and go forward to other more important matters. BTW it is me, (probably is) but I still don't get what Beno is trying to do. is like making a comic figure to move the eyes and head when the mouse is over? is that? On Feb 3, 2010, at 6:47 PM,

Re: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread Brian Mays
In 2000 when the article was written there was no such thing as swfaddress, or swfobject. Point being, everything this article criticized ended up being addressed either by Adobe or developers creating solutions for those issues. The uprising that we're seeing the last few days is very similar to

Re: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread Gustavo Duenas
well I'm a flash designer now, as I was graphic designer in the past, same way I was an artist, illustrator and copy writer before that, I think you can always learn new things and new tricks. My point is the guy from the blog is right if Flash disappears, there is always something else to

Re: [Flashcoders] SEO + Flash = any great strategies?

2010-02-03 Thread artur
thanks for all this in-depth response. what im looking for specifically is a way to have google crawl through and index my dynamic content. from my tests so far, it hasnt done that at all. *Artur Maklyarevsky | CEO * folio: *design2dev.com*

RE: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread David Hunter
I have made a very basic browser as an AIR app (just to test it out) and it definitely displays flash sites. Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 17:10:16 -0500 Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash From: dwa...@figleaf.com To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com I don't think it

Re: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread Jer Brand
Just as people fall down and worship Steve Jobs today people fell down and worshipped Jakob Nielssen in 2000. ... wait... I thought, as Flash developers, we were morally obligated to worship Hillman Curtis back then ;-) Jer ___ Flashcoders mailing

RE: [Flashcoders] I Must Be Asking This Question Wrong...

2010-02-03 Thread Keith Reinfeld
Naw... The bobblehead and googlie-eyes was something I did for fun. beno has been trying to work out the business with the hands. Regards, Keith Reinfeld Home Page: http://keithreinfeld.home.comcast.net -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com

Re: [Flashcoders] SEO + Flash = any great strategies?

2010-02-03 Thread Nathan Mynarcik
You could make your alternative content for swfobject to be a xml parser out of php. That's what I did for my mobile version of my site. Nathan Mynarcik Interactive Web Developer nat...@mynarcik.com 254.749.2525 www.mynarcik.com -Original Message- From: artur ar...@artur.com Date:

Re: [Flashcoders] XMLList question

2010-02-03 Thread Steven Sacks
I always use CDATA tags for text in nodes where special characters might exist. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders

Re: [Flashcoders] SEO + Flash = any great strategies?

2010-02-03 Thread Steven Sacks
I like the solution that Gaia uses. I'm biased because I wrote it and it works really well. It is an idea given to me by a guy who's very good at SEO, I merely executed it. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com

Re: [Flashcoders] and now..CLIENT now hates Flash

2010-02-03 Thread Gustavo Duenas
on other thoughts , I've always loved Hillman Curtis, the agency I mean, still straight though. Flash is still the best way to create cheap and creatives animations for the web... still unbeatable. Gus On Feb 3, 2010, at 7:29 PM, Jer Brand wrote: Just as people fall down and worship Steve