Re: [flexcoders] Re: Do you use a Mac?

2008-10-30 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Wednesday 29 Oct 2008, Brendan Meutzner wrote: Hi I'm a Mac... and I'm a PC... This must be some sort of reference to an advert or something. I don't see adverts :-) -- Tom Chiverton Helping to preemptively mesh unique visionary communities

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Do you use a Mac?

2008-10-30 Thread Tyler Kocheran
Ubuntu [?] On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:46 AM, dnk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 29-Oct-08, at 6:56 AM, Fotis Chatzinikos wrote: Are you sure that you cannot run Leopard (MacOSX) on a vm? The desktop, no (unless it is hacked?), however if you run OS X server, it is supported in VM's (IE I

[flexcoders] Re: Do you use a Mac?

2008-10-29 Thread Haykel BEN JEMIA
Hi, I'm very surprised about the way this thread evolved! I didn't expect such a reaction to the topic! I want to thank you all for your comments and just write down the responses to the questions I posted in the original thread: 1. Do most Flex developers work on Mac? No 2. Are most developers

[flexcoders] Re: Do you use a Mac?

2008-10-29 Thread valdhor
My WinXP machine does not crash per se. After a certain amount of time (24 - 48 hours) it will progressively slow down to the point of unusability. If I leave it too long it becomes so slow that I have to hit the reset button. If I catch it in time, I can get it to restart but it will take over an

[flexcoders] Re: Do you use a Mac?

2008-10-29 Thread Amy
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Haykel BEN JEMIA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm very surprised about the way this thread evolved! I didn't expect such a reaction to the topic! I want to thank you all for your comments and just write down the responses to the questions I posted in

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Do you use a Mac?

2008-10-29 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Wednesday 29 Oct 2008, Haykel BEN JEMIA wrote: 3. Are their any advantages on using a Mac instead of a PC for Web/Flex development? pedant A Mac is a PC. A Linux machine is a PC. A Windows desktop is a PC. /pedant If you mean 'Windows', say so, don't abuse 'Personal Computer' like we have

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Do you use a Mac?

2008-10-29 Thread Fotis Chatzinikos
Are you sure that you cannot run Leopard (MacOSX) on a vm? I recently installed it on my Sony VAIO, so if it runs there it should run on a VM as well... Note: It was not the official DVD but something called kalyway or something like that, if i remember correctly they fix the oficial cds/dvd to

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Do you use a Mac?

2008-10-29 Thread Howard Fore
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Amy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Haykel BEN JEMIA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One point though speaks for Mac and it's the fact that you can't run OS X in any virtual machine. So if you develop for OS X, you have to buy a Mac.

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Do you use a Mac?

2008-10-29 Thread Fotis Chatzinikos
stupid reply on a stupid reply: normal pc == windows these days :-) On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 29 Oct 2008, Haykel BEN JEMIA wrote: 3. Are their any advantages on using a Mac instead of a PC for Web/Flex development? pedant A

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Do you use a Mac?

2008-10-29 Thread Howard Fore
So far Apple has not changed the software bits that would allow virtualization of OS X without hacking. The hackintosh install may run in VM, not sure. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Fotis Chatzinikos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you sure that you cannot run Leopard (MacOSX) on a vm? I

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Do you use a Mac?

2008-10-29 Thread Weyert de Boer
Well, Leopard Server runs in a virtual machine. It's supported by VMWare Fusion and Parallels under OSX. Fotis Chatzinikos wrote: Are you sure that you cannot run Leopard (MacOSX) on a vm?

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Do you use a Mac?

2008-10-29 Thread Brendan Meutzner
Tom, Hi I'm a Mac... and I'm a PC... Intentionally or unintentionally Apple as branded Windows as PC... thus the common use. Brendan On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:04 AM, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 29 Oct 2008, Haykel BEN JEMIA wrote: 3. Are their any advantages on

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Do you use a Mac?

2008-10-29 Thread Howard Fore
I stand (sit, actually) corrected. That's a change for Leopard and only available in the server. However I couldn't find any basis to my assertion that it was a technical issue, only a licensing issue. You still have to have the licenses for each virtualized copy however. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Do you use a Mac?

2008-10-29 Thread Brad O'Hearne
As I recall, the PC term was originally associated with early IBM model computers, was it not? I believe as Windows embraced the IBM PC architecture, while the Mac OS did not, the PC generally became synonymous with Windows (the dominant OS on the IBM PC platform). It is a fairly pedantic

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Do you use a Mac?

2008-10-29 Thread dnk
On 28-Oct-08, at 7:42 PM, Paul Andrews wrote: I have to say that I'm with Dmitri on this one - I can't remember the last time my win XP laptop crashed. I am a systems tech, who programs flex as a hobby, and coming from a background of dealing with multiple OS systems (mac, win, linux,

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Do you use a Mac?

2008-10-29 Thread dnk
On 29-Oct-08, at 6:59 AM, Amy wrote: My husband's Dell dual-boots to Mac... -Amy Keep in mind that he is probably using the OSX 86 (hacked os x to run on other intel hardware) install, and is prone to some issues that fall outside of what an experience would be running a regular mac

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Do you use a Mac?

2008-10-29 Thread dnk
On 29-Oct-08, at 6:56 AM, Fotis Chatzinikos wrote: Are you sure that you cannot run Leopard (MacOSX) on a vm? The desktop, no (unless it is hacked?), however if you run OS X server, it is supported in VM's (IE I think VMWare). d

[flexcoders] Re: Do you use a Mac?

2008-10-28 Thread ross_w_henderson
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Do you use a Mac? welcome to the mac family :) On Oct 24, 2008, at 1:52 PM, Jatin Nanda wrote: I still use both forms extensively. I have a development PC, which I am slowly de-commissioning and a dell laptop that is primarily used for off-site work. My new

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Do you use a Mac?

2008-10-28 Thread Paul Andrews
- Original Message - From: ross_w_henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 1:39 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Do you use a Mac? I switched about 10 months ago, and I'll still tell anyone who is interested how happy I am about it. I do

[flexcoders] Re: Do you use a Mac?

2008-10-28 Thread ross_w_henderson
about switching. Hope that's useful. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Paul Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: ross_w_henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 1:39 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Do you

[flexcoders] Re: Do you use a Mac?

2008-10-28 Thread Dmitri Girski
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, ross_w_henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dealing with multiple daily crashes/freezes was something I had become used to. Hmmm, my development PC with WinXP has usual uptime 90-150 days and not because of the crashes/freezes, but because of the system updates

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Do you use a Mac?

2008-10-28 Thread Paul Andrews
I have to say that I'm with Dmitri on this one - I can't remember the last time my win XP laptop crashed. Paul - Original Message - From: Dmitri Girski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 2:06 AM Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Do you use a Mac

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Do you use a Mac?

2008-10-28 Thread Brendan Meutzner
Are you kidding me? If I follow what you're saying, you've had Windows run crash free for 3-5 months? If so, you should contact Microsoft so they can make a commercial about you... might halt some of the abandonment from Windows to Mac if people actually believed that. Sorry to sound so cynical

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Do you use a Mac?

2008-10-28 Thread Josh McDonald
Can we kill this thread, or what? It basically turned to name-calling quite some time ago. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Brendan Meutzner [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Are you kidding me? If I follow what you're saying, you've had Windows run crash free for 3-5 months? If so, you should

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Do you use a Mac?

2008-10-24 Thread Howard Fore
Well, since you've picked the car analogy... There are plenty of things that you can play with in OS X. You can even play with stuff that Apple says isn't supposed to by played with. But don't be surprised if the next upgrade replaces something you've tinkered with. Just like you wouldn't be

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Do you use a Mac?

2008-10-24 Thread Michael Schmalle
While computer mfg/OS affiliations are akin to a religion, computers are tools nothing more. I have no comment on the issue since this comes up on flexcoders about every other month but this statement is what I was telling myself when reading some of these posts, this has been the only fact

[flexcoders] Re: Do you use a Mac?

2008-10-23 Thread Dmitri Girski
Hi Matthew, I know, I know, it will be only one post in this thread :) We have a mix of Windows Mac machines. The time I spent setting up things/ fixing problems is 1:10. WinXP is a stable system. I don't like MS. I don't like Windows, but I can't just say that it does not work, as it would be

RE: [flexcoders] Re: Do you use a Mac?

2008-10-23 Thread Blake Barrett
From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dmitri Girski Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 5:11 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Do you use a Mac? Hi Matthew, I know, I know, it will be only one post in this thread :) We have a mix

[flexcoders] Re: Do you use a Mac?

2008-10-23 Thread Dmitri Girski
Hi Guy, I know FreeBSD/Linux quite well to say that OSX's underlying unix is just a castrated version of FreeBSD to make it safe for the housewifes/designers. If they are not happy with Win/Cygwin I doubt that they found a happiness with MacOs. Cheers, Dmitri. --- In

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Do you use a Mac?

2008-10-23 Thread Guy Morton
I think it's interesting that people who bag people who prefer Macs often resort to comments like oh it's fine for people who don't know anything about computers or it's good for housewives. According to Apple, Mac OS X is a fully compliant UNIX: UNIX certification. Leopard is an Open

[flexcoders] Re: Do you use a Mac?

2008-10-23 Thread Dmitri Girski
Heh, you don't want to consider yourself being a housewife in computers? :)) But you said that your friends selected MacOs because it's got unix under the hood, looks great That's the professional choice, I'll tell you! Actually, I don't think that is wrong - computers should be easy to use.

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Do you use a Mac?

2008-10-23 Thread Guy Morton
Yes, Dmitri, my Mac-using friends lack professionalism because they use Macs... *sigh* Guy On 24/10/2008, at 1:56 PM, Dmitri Girski wrote: Heh, you don't want to consider yourself being a housewife in computers? :)) But you said that your friends selected MacOs because it's got unix under