Re: [Flightgear-devel] suggestions/questions regarding multiplayer

2005-07-20 Thread Oliver Schroeder
Am Tuesday 19 July 2005 19:27 schrieb Harald JOHNSEN: Oliver Schroeder wrote: 1) out of reach [...] I think the range should be user configurable. So it's possibly a good idea to include a similar check in the flightgear client. The server does a precheck, i.e. does not send packets from

[Flightgear-devel] feature request: MultiPlayer's Callsigns in Viewport

2005-07-20 Thread Roberto Inzerillo
Hi, what about a callsign identifier being displayed for each MultiPlayer airplane in the viewport of FGFS (and maybe a keyboard shortcut or an option menu for enabling/disabling the callsign visibility)? I'm thinking about something like the City-Popup discussed earlier in the ML. So we

Re: [Flightgear-devel] suggestions/questions regarding multiplayer

2005-07-20 Thread Oliver Schroeder
Am Tuesday 19 July 2005 18:05 schrieb Vivian Meazza: Oliver Schroeder 3) artificial life at airports [...] Would a dedicated instance of FlightGear running all the AI traffic needed and passing them to the server for distribution to all players do the trick? (filtering by range if that's

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Re: suggestions/questions regarding multiplayer

2005-07-20 Thread Oliver Schroeder
Am Wednesday 20 July 2005 03:46 schrieb Pigeon: I suppose using an invisible aircraft would work now as an observer. If the server could handle something like if someone connecting with a callsign observer, then it would simply send packets to the observer about other real players, but

RE: [Flightgear-devel] suggestions/questions regarding multiplayer

2005-07-20 Thread Vivian Meazza
Oliver Schroeder Am Tuesday 19 July 2005 18:05 schrieb Vivian Meazza: Oliver Schroeder 3) artificial life at airports [...] Would a dedicated instance of FlightGear running all the AI traffic needed and passing them to the server for distribution to all players do the trick?

Re: [Flightgear-devel] suggestions/questions regarding multiplayer

2005-07-20 Thread Josh Babcock
Oliver Schroeder wrote: I don't think it's a good idea to handle chat messages in another way then messages from ATC (or any other type of conversation). There should be one interface for all types of messages and every module (currently ATC and maybe chat messages in the near future)

Re: [Flightgear-devel] suggestions/questions regarding multiplayer

2005-07-20 Thread Josh Babcock
Oliver Schroeder wrote: Am Tuesday 19 July 2005 18:05 schrieb Vivian Meazza: Oliver Schroeder 3) artificial life at airports [...] Would a dedicated instance of FlightGear running all the AI traffic needed and passing them to the server for distribution to all players do the trick? (filtering

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Diamond Katana model

2005-07-20 Thread ojoe
Sorry for the delay -- I've been away for four days, and haven't been near a computer. Well, it's not the Katana that's doing that, it's you ;). You could use the standard Cessna or the Cub to practice circuits and lining up on final correctly. Early on I tried training in a Tomahawk and,

[Flightgear-devel] view/ground intersection question

2005-07-20 Thread Josh Babcock
How difficult would it be to make a nasal function call that would return the lat/lon/alt of the point on the ground under the cursor? I am trying to make a nasal system to lock the view onto the end of the runway, or any arbitrary point, and I need a way to get the coords so that I can tell the

[Flightgear-devel] OT: aviation movie link

2005-07-20 Thread Curtis L. Olson
I imagine there are a few people on this list that like to watch airplanes. There is some beautiful photography here (Requires quicktime plugin ...) http://www.onesixright.com/video/aerials.html Curt. -- Curtis Olsonhttp://www.flightgear.org/~curt HumanFIRST Program

[Flightgear-devel] CVS

2005-07-20 Thread Neville van Deventer
Hi List, Could anyone perhaps tell me how to connect to the cvs at cvs.flightgear.org without getting the following error Error validating location: "I/O exception occurred: Connection refused: I HATE YOU" I followed the Instructions on the web-site, and I get the same thing for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS

2005-07-20 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Neville van Deventer wrote: Hi List, Could anyone perhaps tell me how to connect to the cvs at cvs.flightgear.org without getting the following error Error validating location: I/O exception occurred: Connection refused: I HATE YOU I followed the Instructions on the web-site, and I get the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OT: aviation movie link

2005-07-20 Thread Gerard Robin
Le mercredi 20 juillet 2005 à 09:53 -0500, Curtis L. Olson a écrit : I imagine there are a few people on this list that like to watch airplanes. There is some beautiful photography here (Requires quicktime plugin ...) http://www.onesixright.com/video/aerials.html Curt. Wonderful.

RE: [Flightgear-devel] CVS

2005-07-20 Thread Vivian Meazza
Neville van Deventer Hi List,   Could anyone perhaps tell me how to connect to the cvs at cvs.flightgear.org without getting the following error   Error validating location: I/O exception occurred: Connection refused: I HATE YOU   I followed the Instructions on the web-site, and I get the same

RE: [Flightgear-devel] CVS

2005-07-20 Thread Neville van Deventer
Thanks for the responses Vivian and Curtis, In Future I Will use Plain Text, my Appologies ... OK, Setup and what I'm Doing, I Just tried it now again, while writing this message so you can check the logs for the past 5 min's or so, I've been thying this most of the day, but with no success.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] view/ground intersection question

2005-07-20 Thread Andy Ross
Josh Babcock wrote: How difficult would it be to make a nasal function call that would return the lat/lon/alt of the point on the ground under the cursor? You certainly can't do it in Nasal alone. Code would have to be written to project a line between the eyepoint and the cursor location and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS

2005-07-20 Thread Andy Ross
Neville van Deventer wrote: Error validating location: I/O exception occurred: Connection refused: I HATE YOU Heh, that's amusing. I googled this, and it turns out that I HATE YOU is the defined response in the CVS protocol for authentication failures. :) You may have a bad password in your

RE: [Flightgear-devel] CVS

2005-07-20 Thread Vivian Meazza
Neville van Deventer Thanks for the responses Vivian and Curtis, In Future I Will use Plain Text, my Appologies ... OK, Setup and what I'm Doing, I Just tried it now again, while writing this message so you can check the logs for the past 5 min's or so, I've been thying this most of

RE: [Flightgear-devel] CVS

2005-07-20 Thread Neville van Deventer
Done, Sorted, I've got a connection now, Thanks Nev -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Ross Sent: 20 July 2005 06:41 PM To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS Neville van Deventer wrote:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Re: suggestions/questions regarding multiplayer

2005-07-20 Thread Andy Ross
Josh Babcock wrote: Right, it would be silly to send all that data to the server when all it needs to know is where your are and what you can see. Plus the position data could be sent at low resolution. The best way to do this is actually dynamic: the server gets to send the X most important

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Re: suggestions/questions regarding multiplayer

2005-07-20 Thread Andy Ross
Oliver Schroeder wrote: I was thinking about oberservers, too. So it will be possible to build radar stations (human operated) and tower controll etc, without disdurbing the other clients (which would try to render the observer). Rather than special casing this (special case abstractions are

[Flightgear-devel] Feature request: will sound options be saved?

2005-07-20 Thread Roberto Inzerillo
Hi, current situation is: FGFS v.0.9.8 win32; shutting down FGFS the sound configuration (volume and mute) is not saved as other configurable options. Will this be possible in future releases? :-) Roberto ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OT: aviation movie link

2005-07-20 Thread Jim Wilson
Nice. There's our chase view! And for those who do not have the qt plugin but do have xine you can download it with: wget http://www.terwilligerproductions.com/video/aerials.mov Best, Jim -Original Message- From: Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 20. Jul 2005

RE: [Flightgear-devel] OpenAL for CygWin

2005-07-20 Thread Alberico, James F
From: Jon Berndt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have placed a compiled tarball of yesterdays OpenAL CVS files @ http://www.vso.cape.com/~nhv/files/cygwin/cyg_openAL.tgz you might want to test these against the current FGFS before blindly overwriting your currrent installation Is

[Flightgear-devel] current-view property question

2005-07-20 Thread Jim Wilson
From: Josh Babcock Are goal_heading_offset_deg and heading_offset_deg just aliases for each other? It looks like one is set from the other in view.cxx. Josh The idea is the heading_offset is gradually changed over several frames. For example if you hit the shift right arrow, then the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] current-view property question

2005-07-20 Thread Josh Babcock
Jim Wilson wrote: From: Josh Babcock Are goal_heading_offset_deg and heading_offset_deg just aliases for each other? It looks like one is set from the other in view.cxx. Josh The idea is the heading_offset is gradually changed over several frames. For example if you hit the shift right

[Flightgear-devel] view offsets

2005-07-20 Thread Josh Babcock
I can adjust the view offsets in the cockpit view, then switch to another view and back and those adjustments are still there. My question is, where is that data stored when I am in another view? The only place I can seem to find it in in current-view, but it is only visible there when I am in

[Flightgear-devel] Cirrus SR20 Model?

2005-07-20 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Is there anyone out there in FlightGear developer land that would be interested in doing a Cirrus SR20 model for FlightGear? Highest priority would be the 3d model and as much of a 3d cockpit as we can do (realizing we aren't real strong on the glass cockpit stuff yet.) This could go two

[Flightgear-devel] Re: fgfs hangs loading scenery objects (some AC and airports but, not all)

2005-07-20 Thread Dave Perry
I did some more experimenting with two different Linux installs updated to yesterday's CVS (plib, SimGear,fgfs, and $FG_ROOT). All the jsbsim aircraft that I tried cause fgfs to hang at the same place when starting from airports from w110n40.tgz. None of the yasim aircraft I tried have this

[Flightgear-devel] suggestions/questions regarding multiplayer

2005-07-20 Thread Mostyn Gale
Andy wrote: The best way to do this is actually dynamic: the server gets to send the X most important objects to each client per update. Importance can be defined in screen space -- think of it as the number of pixels of error that the receiving client would have if the update were not sent.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] view offsets

2005-07-20 Thread Jim Wilson
From: Josh Babcock [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can adjust the view offsets in the cockpit view, then switch to another view and back and those adjustments are still there. My question is, where is that data stored when I am in another view? The only place I can seem to find it in in current-view,