Re: [Flightgear-devel] create craters and smoke effect

2004-07-31 Thread Boris Koenig
Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:13:20 +0200, Boris wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Maybe that saves some time or at least keeps you from re-inventing the wheel ;-) ..maybe. Executive summary from http://www.phoenixosfs.org/ ;-) BTW, interesting project but they don't seem to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RFD: how to handle add-on ground scenery distribution

2004-07-31 Thread Erik Hofman
Chris Metzler wrote: I've been waiting to post this until after the release went out, hoping there'd be more discussion when things were a tiny bit calmer . . . Over time, various people have done a lot of work on ground structures, etc., to add to the scenery for FlightGear. Frederic's did a lot

[Flightgear-devel] Interesting 747 ground handling bug

2004-07-31 Thread Durk Talsma
Hi Guys, Okay, here's an interesting take-off problem. Try running fgfs --airport=FHAW --aircraft=747 The runway has a pretty big slope and as soon as the nose wheel hits the sloping part, the FDM freezes. Cheers, Durk P.S., running fgfs-0.9.5-pre3, base-0.9.5-pre3, and terrasync scenery

RE: [Flightgear-devel] create craters and smoke effect

2004-07-31 Thread Norman Vine
Boris Koenig writes: I mentioned primarily bzflag - cause it is based on SimGear Hmm .. very interesting . as bzflag predates SimGear ... could you please tell us your source of this information as I didn't see any mention of SimGear in a quick perusal of the bzflag source code

Re: [Flightgear-devel] create craters and smoke effect

2004-07-31 Thread Boris Koenig
Norman Vine wrote: Boris Koenig writes: I mentioned primarily bzflag - cause it is based on SimGear Hmm .. very interesting . as bzflag predates SimGear ... lol, don't tell me now that I was wrong ? could you please tell us your source of this information as I didn't see any mention of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs aborted with the dc3

2004-07-31 Thread Ron Lange
hi all, aborting means SIGABRT, IMHO. Unfortunately I've similar effects on my system, although they're appearing sporadic it is annoying. After several attempts fgfs starts then. I am not sure but it seems to be an issue in the FGAI. Just a guess. Regards Ron Here the gdb-backtrace: Starting

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs aborted with the dc3

2004-07-31 Thread Ron Lange
Hi Durk, here are the requested informations: fgfs-versions: FlightGear-0.9.5-pre2 / fgfs-base-0.9.5-pre2.tar.gz starting time: between 10:00am and 1:00pm (noon here in germany, while my son's sleeping...;-) ADEP: ETHB - Bückeburg, Germany (located in the e000n50 scenerey) with the Bo105 Regards

[Flightgear-devel] FlightGear v0.9.5

2004-07-31 Thread Erik Hofman
For what it's worth, FlightGear 0.9.5 for IRIX is available at: http://www.1stweb.nl/~ehofman/fgfs/ Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RFD: how to handle add-on ground scenery distribution

2004-07-31 Thread Boris Koenig
Chris Metzler wrote: [...] So what we discussed was a webpage/site which would (eventually) do for FlightGear what avsim.com/flightsim.com's file libraries do for MSFS. At least at first, it'd provide upload/browse/download capability. Even though I agree with Erik that it would make sense to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs aborted with the dc3

2004-07-31 Thread Durk Talsma
Hi Ron, That explains it: In version pre2, MD11 traffic is still generated, but the required aircraft is not included in the base package. Around the time one you're trying to start, one of the KLM MD11's starting from of heading for Asmterdam is probably causing trouble. Version pre3 has its

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Taildragger takeoff and landing

2004-07-31 Thread Erik Hofman
Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 21:42:48 -0400, Ampere wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On July 28, 2004 03:06 pm, Jon S Berndt wrote: So, from the point of view of the horizontal stabilizor, that pesky downwash happens because wings really suck. ;-) I guess that's one of the reasons

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Taildragger takeoff and landing

2004-07-31 Thread Norman Vine
Erik Hofman writes: Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 21:42:48 -0400, Ampere wrote in message On July 28, 2004 03:06 pm, Jon S Berndt wrote: So, from the point of view of the horizontal stabilizor, that pesky downwash happens because wings really suck. ;-) I guess that's one

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Interesting 747 ground handling bug

2004-07-31 Thread Josh Babcock
Durk Talsma wrote: Hi Guys, Okay, here's an interesting take-off problem. Try running fgfs --airport=FHAW --aircraft=747 The runway has a pretty big slope and as soon as the nose wheel hits the sloping part, the FDM freezes. Cheers, Durk P.S., running fgfs-0.9.5-pre3, base-0.9.5-pre3, and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Data source battle?

2004-07-31 Thread Lee Elliott
On Friday 30 July 2004 23:19, John Wojnaroski wrote: When using real-time weather via the net and the native-ctrls interface to input control data to FG it appears both sources attempt to write to the environmental properties; this is most noticeable with the wind vector and discontinuities in

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Data source battle?

2004-07-31 Thread Jon Berndt
I don't use real weather because most of my flying is to test the fdms I'm working on, Just so I am clear, when you say fdms are you referring to Flight Dynamics Model source code, or are you referring to something I'd call an Aircraft Flight Model (AFM) or Aircraft Flight Model Definition

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Data source battle?

2004-07-31 Thread Lee Elliott
On Saturday 31 July 2004 17:02, Jon Berndt wrote: I don't use real weather because most of my flying is to test the fdms I'm working on, Just so I am clear, when you say fdms are you referring to Flight Dynamics Model source code, or are you referring to something I'd call an Aircraft

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs aborted with the dc3

2004-07-31 Thread Ron Lange
Thank you Durk! I hope that someone is making a patch of the final base package soon...;-) then I'll get out of trouble. Ron Durk Talsma schrieb: Hi Ron, That explains it: In version pre2, MD11 traffic is still generated, but the required aircraft is not included in the base package. Around the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs aborted with the dc3

2004-07-31 Thread Boris Koenig
Ron Lange wrote: Thank you Durk! I hope that someone is making a patch of the final base package soon...;-) Just to get this straight: you'd need a patch from pre2 - 0.9.5 ? Is there anybody else who would like to see such a patch ? Arnt, for which pre-version do you need a patch ?

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Data source battle?

2004-07-31 Thread John Wojnaroski
- Original Message - From: Lee Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FlightGear developers discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Data source battle? On Friday 30 July 2004 23:19, John Wojnaroski wrote: When using real-time weather

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs aborted with the dc3

2004-07-31 Thread Ron Lange
Dear Boris! Just a patch chain (pre2-pre3-final) would be nice... Regards Ron Boris Koenig schrieb: Ron Lange wrote: Thank you Durk! I hope that someone is making a patch of the final base package soon...;-) Just to get this straight: you'd need a patch from pre2 - 0.9.5 ? Is there anybody else

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs aborted with the dc3

2004-07-31 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 21:07:28 +0200, Ron wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Boris Koenig schrieb: Ron Lange wrote: Thank you Durk! I hope that someone is making a patch of the final base package soon...;-) Just to get this straight: you'd need a patch from pre2 - 0.9.5 ? Is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Taildragger takeoff and landing

2004-07-31 Thread Erik Hofman
Arnt Karlsen wrote: Erik (Ever used the bicycle to cycle up a steep hill?) ..is overhang steep enough? ;-) On a bicycle? Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RFD: how to handle add-on ground scenery distribution

2004-07-31 Thread Erik Hofman
Jon Stockill wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: My personal opinion would be to get everything at one place, preferably (but not necessarily) in a separate CVS branch at flightgear.org just like the world wide scenery right now. That would be easiest for everybody (and provides mirror sites). That

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RFD: how to handle add-on ground scenery distribution

2004-07-31 Thread Jon Stockill
Erik Hofman wrote: Jon Stockill wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: My personal opinion would be to get everything at one place, preferably (but not necessarily) in a separate CVS branch at flightgear.org just like the world wide scenery right now. That would be easiest for everybody (and provides mirror

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS - problem

2004-07-31 Thread Chris Metzler
On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 16:11:29 +0100 Vivian Meazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I downloaded FGFS cvs this morning. There appears to be an error in gui.nas: 166 if(cap 1) { continue; } I assume this to be a typo or corruption. I guess that it should be 166 if(cap = 0.1) { continue; }

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Taildragger takeoff and landing

2004-07-31 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 22:44:19 +0200, Erik wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Arnt Karlsen wrote: Erik (Ever used the bicycle to cycle up a steep hill?) ..is overhang steep enough? ;-) On a bicycle? ..yup. Classic case of _find_-a-way and stay-_off_-the-brakes to pull G's, but

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear v0.9.5

2004-07-31 Thread Richard Keech
I'll have the Red Hat/Fedora packages available in the next day or so. On Sat, 2004-07-31 at 00:36, Curtis L. Olson wrote: The official v0.9.5 source tarball and base package is now up on the ftp sites and I've updated the website as well. I plan to email out an official announcement later

RE: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear v0.9.5

2004-07-31 Thread Jon Berndt
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